I don't like what my party is doing, so I'm dropping out
#7 | Posted by kwrx25

He's not the only one!

Republican Lawmakers Are Leaving Office Out Of Fear Of The Party's Base, Report Claims: 'I'd Rather My House Not Get Firebombed'

there's a way to make change, smh.
#7 | Posted by kwrx25

The change has already taken place.
MAGA shot and killed two Minnesota politicians just a few months ago.
Did you care? No, you laughed.

The man couldn't look his children in the face and continue to call himself a Republican.
#11 | Posted by qcp

He should have called Eberly for some tips!

I don't like what my party is doing, so I'm dropping out.... there's a way to make change, smh.
#7 | Posted by kwrx25

I say something moderate with nuance and your retarded brain hears MaGa mAgA MaGa...
#21 | Posted by kwrx25

you have assumed many times over that I voted for Trump and assigned me positions on that. Only to be told you're wrong about who I voted for and that wasn't my position.
#24 | Posted by kwrx25

^
Here's some nuance for you.
Not liking what your party is doing is why you didn't vote for Trump.
And you wear your non-participation like some badge of honor.
But when the Governor does it, now it's a ----- move.

most of this site assigns positions to people, and them demonizes them for said position.
#19 | Posted by kwrx25

Here's you assigning, then demonizing the Gov candidate:

I don't like what my party is doing, so I'm dropping out.... there's a way to make change, smh.
#7 | Posted by kwrx25

"My point was that just quitting was not going to make change"

Okay. Sure. Got any ideas on what would get Republicans to change?

I don't see the fascists changing until Trump is no longer alive to lead them.

They're that far gone. Fully invested in fascism at this point.

What do you think, do you see it different?

"Dropping out is the antithesis of what he should be doing if he wants to remain in politics and the R party."

You never joined a party and now you're telling people who did they have to live up to your expectations of them?

You blame this guy for quitting his team, but you never even joined one. Who's the real loser here, the guy who tried and didn't like it or the guy who never even tried?

You sound like the kind of guy who nods silently in approval when some ------- says "I didn't leave the Democrat Party, the Democrats left me."

Well, the Republican Party left this guy.

Or maybe you think Republicans have always been this racist, and this guy was just too white bread to notice until ICE started calling his black constituents the N word.

Curious which of those describes your thinking better.

"the left is so far left"

How do you figure?
What are your examples of left going further left in our lifetimes?

I don't mean all the left, I mean the extremes have gotten more extreme. The problem is they have gotten more vocal, and therefore garner more attention/blame than their parties deserve.
#35 | Posted by kwrx25

I can't imagine you can identify any "extremes" on the left.
EXCEPT FOR
Trans people existing and demanding to be given the same rights that black people and women and gays had to fight for.

What's really changed is these people are now routinely demonized by the right-wing media. Their existence hasn't changed, their demands haven't ever changed, and it's the same demands women, blacks, and gays used to have.

Maybe you think it's a "left wing phenomenon" that there are more openly trans people than when we were kids. Hey, there's more openly gay people than when we were kids too. Is that the result of leftism or is that a nation centering itself around the reality that gay people exist and gay people's existence is only a left vs right issue because the right wants gays to be second class citizens.

Corky, you don't think any of the lefts policies pushed moderates away from the left and to the right during the election?
#39 | Posted by kwrx25

I think right-wing propaganda painting the left policies as harmful to America could have done that.

The actual policies of the left don't harm America, and the reason I know that's the case is you can't name any left policies that harmed America.

"I can't name any policies that you would agree harmed America, because you refuse to look at anything objectively."

I look at things pretty objectively. I didn't think Hillary or Kamala or any woman could win, for example.

You could at least try to name a liberal policy that hurt America, and of course you'll be expected to show how the Republican fix has actually made things better.

Your non-answer reinforces my earlier answer being pretty accurate here: You're referring to right-wing propaganda painting the left policies as harmful to America, and that's why you don't want to name them, because you know most of that stuff will get torn down by an informed person.

"We are going to disagree on the effectiveness of some left policies"

You can't even name any leftist policies, can you?

I do feel that the majority of the moderates in the country feel that the lefts policies have become much more progressive and that the litmus test used by the left has become more extreme.
#45 | Posted by kwrx25

Do you have any appreciation or understanding that the right's policies have become much more regressive?

Tariffs.

Acting like Illegals are Jews to be rounded up by the Gestapo.

Gestapo police raiding homes without a search warrant signed by a judge.

Eliminating of EPA protections.

Disallowing any gun regulation that isn't supported by a historical tradition of gun regulation.

Banning books from schools.

Stopping intelligence sharing with our NATO allies.

Threatening to invade NATO ally Denmark, in violation of our 1926 treaty cedeing Greenland.

"I do feel that the majority of the moderates in the country feel that the rights policies have become much more regressive and that the litmus test used by the right has become more extreme."

^
This is what you didn't say. Because, while true, it doesn't play nice with your "the left is going off the deep end" narrative that conservative media has been feeding you for thirty years.

you pushed back about the left NOT moving.
#52 | Posted by kwrx25

Because you don't have any examples, and you still don't.

I've never really been referring to the politicians or the parties but the public that identifies as their basis.
#54 | Posted by kwrx25

Okay. This time it's so vague it's pointless to ask for evidence.

Maybe by moving left, you mean gay people feel empowered to be openly gay in high school nowadays, unlike when we were in high school.
Or maybe you mean there's more black and brown people in your neighborhood than there used to be.
Seems like you're the kind of person who would look at all of these things and blame liberals.
Blame, because you think it's bad.

"Fact is, if you're being honest, Democratic policies all favor corporations and capitalism."

The economy itself does better when Democrats are in the White House.
Could there be a better endorsement of Capitalism?

But they'll never accept the economy does better under Democrats.
That would be like accepting a black man for their family doctor.

The fundamental challenge in trying to have a discussion with these hidebound ideologues is this:
"You Cannot Reason People Out of Something They Were Not Reasoned Into"

They never reasoned themselves into the belief that Republicans are better on the economy.
They just grew up hearing it and ended up believing it.
It's like someone who goes to church and says their prayers but has no concept of what the hell a peroneal connection to Jesus could possibly mean, but they just go along with it because that's what everybody else does and they see what happens to people who ask too many questions.

Some of them like KWRX25 here occasionally show sparks of intellectual curiosity. So I try to keep them on the line.

#56 you can't resist assigning me positions...

Tell ya what.
If you can figure out how to stop flirting with Republicans, I'll figure out you don't like them.
But that hasn't happened in the decades we've been here.

"I do feel that the majority of the moderates in the country feel that the lefts policies have become much more progressive and that the litmus test used by the left has become more extreme."

This is you, regurgitating a paraphrased "I didn't leave the Democrats, the Democrats left me."
And this is also you, tricking yourself into thinking you thought of that on your own.

But you didn't think of that on your own.
And the reason I can tell you didn't think of that on your own, is you can't explain how you came up with it.

You can't resist assigning yourself positions, and thinking that you thought of them all by yourself.
When in fact you didn't think at all.
Get it?

"To make the claim that I have my opinions fed to me is actually pretty insulting."

Good. Sounds like I'm getting through.
For you not to be able to say how you came up with your opinions is pretty insulting to your own mental capacity.

So let me try being Good Cop.
I wouldn't even bother to engage with you if I thought you were actually a fool like most "centrists" and "libertarians."
You can do better.

Republicans are in fact 100% bad, though.
Even Eberly won't vote for them for the past fifteen years.
And the ones he does vote for, the "good" ones, they always get the lowest votes in the primary.
Because Republicans prefer Bad to Good.

I'm not sure how exactly you planned on sharpening that to an edge, though, since KWRX25 is an "Independent" "Libertarian" whatever the ---- that means.

The Libertarian pages on Social Media are a hoot lately. Half are hardcore MAGA, the other half are kinda like KWRX25 here who thinks people should be able to protest without getting murdered by the State.

True identity crisis unfolding -- because Libertarians never actually had an identity in the first place! It's a catch-all for malcontents and misanthropes. And some I'm sure are good, but deeply misguided or confused, people.

Libertarians need to build success at the local level and demonstrate their ideas can work. Why anybody would take this "philosophy" seriously when it's never been implemented, is the reason it's dismissed out of hand. Libertarians, in practice, are no different than the kid in the Che T-shirt saying the USSR wasn't real Communism and if we tried it the right way it ought to work.

I'm listed as that because when I joined the site those were the options, and I definitely don't identify as R or D.
#68 | Posted by kwrx25

That doesn't actually explain why you picked Libertarian...
But it does reinforce my belief that people who pick "Libertarian" actually picked "None Of The Above."

There's no ideology there. There's no messaging there. There's no belief system, no vision for the future.
All it is, is "We hate both sides but it's not like we actually have any ideas that are better!"
It's Virtue Signaling to the other crabs in the pot that you'll pull them down if they try to escape.
It's a Hurt Feelings Report, lodged by grown baby-men.

Don't be that man.

" then it is prudent to register in a party where your vote might make a difference."

If you do that, then you're a Republican, and you run the risk of people thinking you're actually a Republican, which would make you a White Nationalist in the year 2026. And it's hard to see what's wrong with that logic.

If there's no point where you say "I keep losing bets in this Casino, but I'm going to keep playing in this Casino even as they are denying entry to black people" well, you've kinda chosen your side.

I see what Eberly is doing.
It's the not ever walking away part where he loses me.

It's like a wife who keeps going back to the man who hits her.
It's dating a crazy hot chick and telling yourself "I Can Change Her."
You. Can't.

I don't like what my party is doing, so I'm dropping out.... there's a way to make change, smh.
#7 | Posted by kwrx25

it's a good chance it'll be a blue area.....I'll gladly register as a Democrat when we do that.
#78 | Posted by eberly

Anyone else seeing it?

"I live in a hard blue state, so I vote 3rd party in an effort to grow the % of people voting for neither."

So you're not voting for the member of the majority party that's closest to what you want in the primary, like Eberly does?

Hmmmm.