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The malicious Trumpf junta will not renew direct federal funding of community-based organizations that work on HIV prevention, the latest step in the nefarious cabal's campaign against America's LGBTQ community.

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#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-21 03:54 AM | Reply

BillJohnson was asking what's a Trump policy that harms gays.

BillJohnson will say gays with HIV don't deserve government help to begin with, so this doesn't harm them unjustly.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-21 08:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A lot of people right here said that those who refuse the COVID vax don't deserve treatment. Is that same thing true with AIDS? If one engages in risky behavior and contract AIDS, do they deserve treatment.

Nixon said a while back than anyone who drinks raw milk shouldn't be allowed treatment.

BTW, you're still an idiot.

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-21 02:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A lot of people right here said that those who refuse the COVID vax don't deserve treatment.

Name them. I don't agree with that.

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-21 03:03 PM | Reply

HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.

Conservatives are the most horrible people in existence.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 03:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A lot of people right here said that those who refuse the COVID vax don't deserve treatment.
#3 | POSTED BY TURDS

You poor thing.

Always a victim.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 03:41 PM | Reply

Everyone deserves Treatment. It's not even debatable.

Anyone who thinks denying treatment to anyone is a sick bastard.

The whole idea that sick people should be left to die is Reprehensible.

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-21 03:53 PM | Reply

Sorry. We need the money.

For Whiskey Pete and the Dept of Whore.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-21 03:58 PM | Reply

A lot of people right here said that those who refuse the COVID vax don't deserve treatment.
#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds

There's no HIV vaccine, so that's not exactly a particularly useful comparison.

In both cases, people who have the disease are capable of spreading it to others. So, the reason people who refuse the vaccine are looked down upon, is they are actively choosing to potentially spread the disease to others.

You know, the way you look down on gay people. The way you look down on heterosexual black women, who account for 50% of HIV diagnoses among women. Not that you needed another reason to hate black women, but there you go!

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-21 04:21 PM | Reply

-Name them. I don't agree with that.

Don't agree with what? That folks have expressed that or that you disagree with those folks?

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 04:24 PM | Reply

-HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.

That's some buffalo bob shit right there.

I notice folks will give you a pass on such hysteria. They expect you to make such absurd allegations with zero evidence.

Isn't that kind of sad that you're revered that way by everyone here?

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 04:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 clowns**** lives up to his name when he says, "HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose."

#12 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-21 04:30 PM | Reply

"That's some buffalo bob shit right there."

Pretty common one from back in the day. Biggest evidence against it is the few people who died from AIDS before it became "the gay disease" endemic in the community, before HIV was identified.

Robert Rayford, a 16-year-old from St. Louis, is considered the first documented AIDS death in the United States, dying in 1969 after a chronic illness beginning in 1966; his tissues were later found to contain HIV antibodies. In Africa, the earliest known HIV-1 specimen comes from a Bantu man in Lopoldville (now Kinshasa) who died in 1959 (sample LEO70), with genetic models suggesting the pandemic strain emerged around 1920. --AI Summary

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-21 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#11 ;-)

#14 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-21 04:32 PM | Reply

#13 Snoofy begins his insightful comment with this: "Pretty common one from back in the day."

Fortunately, most people grow and learn from common things back in the day, based on knowledge gathered since.

Unfortunately, some people never grow and learn no matter how much knowledge had been gathered since back in the day.

#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-21 04:37 PM | Reply

#11 I'll see you one car antenna for your smokestacks on the Moon, eb. ;-)

#16 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-21 04:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"most people grow and learn"

Most is overselling it.
Something like 80% of Americans still believe in the supernatural.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-21 04:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

16

What's ironic is that Clown cries more than anyone about the lies and unsubstantiated crap people post here.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 04:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hi Snoofy

Your "annoying" colleague here.

Many years ago I read that a coroner in Louisiana in the early or mid-1960s kept a corpse (or samples of it) for future researck because he was perplexed by what killed the patient.

The victim was a young African-American male ("Negro" back then) and then decades later he or his team went back to the corpse and realized it was HIV.

This could be the same story that I read last century: Lousiana ~ St Louis.

BTW: I'll try not to annoy you in future comments, but no promises.


#19 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-21 04:56 PM | Reply

-HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.

I missed it scrolling through and frankly thought it was a 1Nut comment, who is excised from my feed.

". . . and crack was developed and placed into da hood to feed the prison-industrial complex."

Oh, wait.

#20 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-21 05:00 PM | Reply

HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 03:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Victim card on display.

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-21 05:10 PM | Reply

The boogieman conservatives did it...

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-21 05:14 PM | Reply

There's no HIV vaccine, so that's not exactly a particularly useful comparison.

#9 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2026-07-21 04:21 PM | FLAG:

No, it it's nearly 100% avoidable. It's like purposely sticking your hand in a fire, you're going to get burned. You know how to solve that?

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-21 05:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If one engages in risky behavior and contract AIDS, do they deserve treatment.

I don't agree with that. .... but ....

No, it it's nearly 100% avoidable. It's like purposely sticking your hand in a fire, you're going to get burned. You know how to solve that?
~ lefty

Which is not exactly true ....

ONLY Thirteen states have laws that require you to disclose that you're HIV-positive to any other person before you have vaginal, anal, or oral sex. S

IF someone is upset over shutting down the HIV prevention fund angle and not upset that people don't have to disclose they are HIV positive ... that person is an idiot and doesn't need to be listened too.

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 06:18 PM | Reply

Link : www.webmd.com

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 06:19 PM | Reply


HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.
#5 | Posted by ClownShack

Isn't it amazing Fauci was at the center of HIV and COVID?

Video Resurfaces of Fauci Warning Household Contact' with AIDS Patients Could Put Kids at Risk
www.yahoo.com

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 06:25 PM | Reply

I forgot.

It was the Africans.

They were having sex with monkeys.

Thanks for the reminder.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 06:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What's ironic is that Clown cries more than anyone about the lies and unsubstantiated crap people post here.
#18 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Eberly, posting on a thread about another poster and nothing at all about the topic of the thread.

Must be another day ending with Y

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 06:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I notice folks will give you a pass
#11 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Name them.

Troll.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 06:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.
#12 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Agreed.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 06:58 PM | Reply

- Eberly, posting on a thread about another poster and nothing at all about the topic of the thread.

When that's a majority of one's posts, one is merely bitching at people for what they say or how they say it, with no salient point to make.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-21 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

But we love Eb, anyway, if only because he's not full-on Visitor mode.

He's not Rick Wilson, either, but hey...

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-21 07:00 PM | Reply

No, it it's nearly 100% avoidable. It's like purposely sticking your hand in a fire, you're going to get burned. You know how to solve that?
#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds

So, no treatment for smokers or oilfield workers who get lung cancer or have strokes or heart disease, right?
They chose to be around all those carcinogens.

And what about all the complications that can happen with pregnancy.
Women know how to not get pregnant, right?
Why should we take on the medical risk of them trying to fart out another little welfare baby.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-21 07:09 PM | Reply

You think Turds gives a damn about women?

He's an anti abortion, pro calling women sluts, pedophile supporter.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 07:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You think Turds gives a damn about women?
#34 | Posted by ClownShack

Good point.
He only ever talks about sex with men.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-21 07:21 PM | Reply

-Name them.

Everyone except A Friend and me and dbd2

Everyone else just avoids eye contact and walks past you as fast as they can.

Like some ranting loonie on the street.

To be honest, zero of them believed you.

They expect you to lie like a rug.

But then, practically in the same breath, they pretend to be upset about lies being told here

And so do you.

LOL

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 07:30 PM | Reply

Everyone

Sounds accurate.

except A Friend and me

He's still upset I'm not part of Blue MAGA, whereas you're just desperate for attention.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 08:11 PM | Reply

Eberly is Legend in his Own Mind.

Personally, I value your contributions to this forum. Clownshack.

#38 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-21 08:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"whereas you're just desperate for attention."

Says the boob posting buffalo bob level crap.

You expect to be left alone when you post that, don't you?

Consequence free, judgement free, and you cry when called out.

Maybe consider just laughing it off?

Don't cry about it.

-Sounds accurate.

Says the boob posting buffalo bob level crap.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 08:44 PM | Reply

You expect to be left alone when you post that, don't you?

Is this you, still crying because you were screaming at people responding to your posts the other day?

I don't care. Respond.

HIV started because: 1) Africans did some sex stuff or blood stuff with monkeys and suddenly there was a disease that attacked human T cells. 2) The HIV MRNA virus was created in a laboratory by humans.

Let's have some fun.

Covid started because: 1) the Chinese did some sex stuff or blood stuff with pangolins or bats and suddenly there was a disease that attacked respiratory systems. 2) The COVID 19 virus was created in a laboratory by humans.

This is more discussion about the origin of the HIV virus than occurred through the entirety of the Raegan administration.

I'm delighted you're pretending to care.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 09:01 PM | Reply

Says the boob posting buffalo bob level crap.

Are you saying HIV and COVID didn't come from a lab, to knock out the gays and WesternCivilization? Labs with Fauci in charge?

idk man I guess it was heresy at one point but today?

So, no treatment for smokers or oilfield workers who get lung cancer or have strokes or heart disease, right?

They have choices, unlike sexual partners who aren't told.

#41 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 09:02 PM | Reply

This is more discussion about the origin of the HIV virus than occurred through the entirety of the Raegan administration.

So you're argument is that in the 1st year of the Reagan administration, they created the HIV virus under Fauci?

idk about that, Carter must have been involved, no way it was created for humans in less than a year.

#42 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 09:06 PM | Reply

AI Summary
#13 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Nazi were doing human testing since the 1940.

Most of their scientists became Americans.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 09:06 PM | Reply

you're argument is that in the 1st year of the Reagan administration, they created the HIV virus under Fauci?

That sounds like your argument.


idk about that, Carter must have been involved, no way it was created for humans in less than a year.
#42 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

You're late to the party. I already accused the Nazis.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 09:08 PM | Reply

Me, Eb, and A Friend.

Damn, I need serious help. What a threesome. Where's the Nooner for lonely hearts who can't fit in this world?

#45 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-21 09:19 PM | Reply

2) The COVID 19 virus was created in a laboratory by humans.

I am going with yes. There's so much politics wrapped up in the evidence that we can only use logic, my argument that it is from a Lab is that no one has found it in nature, running wild like HIV.

Let's say it came from Nature, or evolved. Where else is it? Shouldn't it be somewhere? Must some animals be sick from it?
If it really evolved in nature, someone somewhere would be touting "I found it..." .... but nothing.

There's no evidence I can find of a mass die-off of any animal other than humans, nor has any been found since. Yet, HIV's source we can still find in nature.

You assert that COVID mutated in one mammal and it was transmitted to one human, never to be seen again?

#46 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 09:21 PM | Reply

Where's the Nooner for lonely hearts who can't fit in this world?

Just where's the Nooner..... and not the Clownshack kind.

#47 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 09:21 PM | Reply


I already accused the Nazis.
#44 | Posted by ClownShack

So you were lying? Maybe Eb's onto something.

#48 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 09:22 PM | Reply

-I'm delighted you're pretending to care.

About the origin of HIV and COVID?

I'm actually not pretending to care.

You can pretend all you want.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 09:22 PM | Reply

That sounds like your argument.

So you're saying Carter released it without discussion, and Reagan didn't discuss it either, but somehow Reagan is the bad guy?

You really are stretching your credibility here.

#50 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 09:27 PM | Reply

-Is this you, still crying because you were screaming at people responding to your posts the other day?

You and a few other extremely desperate souls aren't interested in facts nor even a discussion of alternative viewpoints.

Just demand agreement and scream and attack unless you get agreed with.

And you prove it every day. This thread included.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 09:28 PM | Reply

Again ....

If you don't care that people with HIV don't need to tell their sexual partners, but are upset over "prevention funding" being cut, you really need to look in the mirror.

#52 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 09:29 PM | Reply

-What a threesome.

You want to use your Onlyfans account or mine?

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-21 09:30 PM | Reply

53. I got a reputation to uphold. You, however, are in the insurance industry.

#54 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-21 09:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

53, PS. I wrote and edited insurance texts full time for 10 years, freelance another 20.

I have great admiration for actuarial science, even though its practical applications suck.

#55 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-21 09:53 PM | Reply

I'm actually not pretending to care.
#49 | POSTED BY EBERLY

This is true.

You're here for attention.

You and a few other extremely desperate souls aren't interested in facts
#51 | POSTED BY EBERLY

What are these facts? Let's hear some.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-21 10:29 PM | Reply

You and a few other extremely desperate souls aren't interested in facts nor even a discussion of alternative viewpoints.

There's no discussion from Clownshake, he lays out questions, I answer, he's got nothing..... I am open to ideas, but I haven't seen any evidence.

Then he has the unmitigated gall to say this ...

What are these facts? Let's hear some.

#57 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-21 11:07 PM | Reply

he lays out questions, I answer,

You couldn't define open borders if it bit you in your open borders liberal Chinese immigrant SockPuppet bubble

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 12:19 AM | Reply

Everyone except A Friend and me and dbd2

BS.

Everyone deserves healthcare, I don't care what they did to themselves. GFY eberly.

#59 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-22 04:03 AM | Reply

-You're here for attention.

If that's true, then so are you. Especially when you post fantastic hysterical lying rants like you did.

-Everyone deserves healthcare, I don't care what they did to themselves. GFY eberly.

Are you literally on drugs, Alex? I didn't say anything about denying someone healthcare. That was about Clownshack lying out his reamed out ass for attention and your ignoring it.

Take your own goddam advice, you fucking puling loser.

#60 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 08:41 AM | Reply

-I have great admiration for actuarial science,

Too bad insurance companies don't. They don't trust anything.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 08:41 AM | Reply

"Puling" is becoming a popular word here.

#62 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-22 10:00 AM | Reply

That was about Clownshack lying out his reamed out ass for attention and your ignoring it.

Prove me wrong.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 11:08 AM | Reply

"Puling" is becoming a popular word here.
#62 | POSTED BY DBT2

Eberly has been using it a lot.

Wouldn't call it popular till the kids start using it.

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 11:10 AM | Reply

-"Puling" is becoming a popular word here.

Yeah, I borrowed it from someone. Not sure how much it's being used but I think I've used it twice or so.

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 11:29 AM | Reply

When that's a majority of one's posts, one is merely bitching at people for what they say or how they say it, with no salient point to make.

#31 | POSTED BY CORKY

"Small minds discuss people; average minds discuss events; great minds discuss ideas."

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-22 11:29 AM | Reply

#65 The Internet is forever ...

Ah, Tadowe:
How to post like Tad:
1) Make up a position.
2) Assign it to 'Liberals' in general and another blogger in particular.
3) Find an example of that blogger contradicting the position you made up
for him/her.
4) Call that person a lying crapweasel or puling hypocrite.
5) Throw in some stuff you heard while walking by an asylum.
6) Repeat - ad nauseum.
And now we have step 7: Receive ------- from Horace.
Posted by Sully at 2006-05-12 01:42 PM
.
Oh, yeah, "puling hypocrite." LOL Plus, he liked to use alliteration and loved the word
"ilk."
#94 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-09-20 03:57 PM
.
Oh, yeah, "puling hypocrite." LOL Plus, he liked to use alliteration and loved the word
"ilk."
#94 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY
Referring to Rcade as "ilk" was the cited reason for his permanent ban.
#96 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-09-20 04:07 PM

#67 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-22 11:35 AM | Reply

It's a literal circle-jerk of self-important douchebags.

#68 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-07-22 11:39 AM | Reply

"bitching at people for what they say"

Who here doesn't challenge "bitching at" folks for what they say?

WTF are you complaining about now?

And how are you in any position to complain about that when everyone here sees you to it all the time....including right in that very comment?

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 11:40 AM | Reply

#67 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

3 times over the past 20 years?

You really cracked that case!

#70 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 11:42 AM | Reply

"Make up a position.
2) Assign it to 'Liberals' in general and another blogger in particular."

That's what Clown learned how to do a long time ago.

And it's fine with me. but please....stop whining about it.

#71 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 11:42 AM | Reply

"Small minds discuss people; average minds discuss events; great minds discuss ideas."

One of life's repeatables.

#72 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-22 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Well look at the big brain on Brad!"


BTW: I'm thoroughly enjoying On the Beach by Nevil Shute.

Can't say for certain, but I would imagine US Senator/POTUS JFK and USN Ensign Jimmy Carter read this 1957 classic about an American nuclear-powered submarine looking for survivors of a nuclear Armageddon.

Mr Shute smoothly intertwined the global North-South divide, the Cold War, societal ennui, and environmental catastrophe all at once. I'll tell you how it ends. ;-)

The other two legs of the Cold War trilogy: The Manchurian Candidate (Richard Condon, 1959) and Fail-Safe (Eugene Burdick & Harvey Wheeler, 1962).

#73 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-22 11:45 AM | Reply

Be wary of clever trolls and disingenuous holograms.

#74 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-22 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.youtube.com

#75 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-22 11:48 AM | Reply

That's what Clown learned how to do a long time ago.
#71 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're the king of creating strawmen, assigning them to other people and arguing against them.

You're the idiot who believes he knows us and is constantly telling us what we believe.

You don't exist in a vacuum.

Everyone here reads your posts.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 11:50 AM | Reply

#73 have you seen The Bedford Incident? It's got Sidney Poitier so you know it's good!
www.imdb.com

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-22 11:51 AM | Reply

-You're the king of creating strawmen, assigning them to other people and arguing against them.

You typed this.

-HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.

I responded to that.

and that is me "creating strawmen, assigning them to other people. blah blah blah blah"??

You are a complete and total psycho.

Everybody here reads your posts.

they pretend they don't and pray I don't challenge them just like I did on this thread.

But......I did point it out.

And that chaps your ass.

Why?

#78 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Ain't Talkin'"

As I walked out tonight in the mystic garden
The wounded flowers were dangling from the vine
I was passing by yon cool crystal fountain
Someone hit me from behind

Ain't talkin', just walkin'
Through this weary world of woe
Heart burnin', still yearnin'
No one on earth would ever know

They say prayer has the power to heal
So pray from the mother
In the human heart an evil spirit can dwell
I am a-tryin' to love my neighbor and do good unto others
But oh, mother, things ain't going well

more

www.google.com

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-22 12:01 PM | Reply


You typed this.
-HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose.
I responded to that.
#78 | POSTED BY EBERLY

But you didn't.

Your response made it all about me.

You didn't respond to what I posted, you didn't post anything about what you thought the origin of HIV was.

Snoofy did and left it at that.

I even gave you a couple opportunities to pick a number Ari choose where you thought HIV originated from.

But all your comments were about clownshack the username.

Which is fine. But at least gain some self awareness.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 12:04 PM | Reply

At least you didn't post a bunch of nonsense like AFriend.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 12:06 PM | Reply

"But you didn't.
Your response made it all about me."

But I did. That's exactly what I did. I directly responded to your lie in #5 with my #11.

Your post was a lie and I compared you to Buffalo Bob.

Why do you want to skip the part where you lied in order to victimize yourself?

"you didn't post anything about what you thought the origin of HIV was."

en.wikipedia.org

all better? What are you baiting me with here? I realize you want to make this about how a republican harmed you so do that.

If that's where you're headed then go there. I'm fine with that.

#82 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:11 PM | Reply

-But all your comments were about clownshack the username.

You mean the part where I demeaned you by pointing out everyone gives you a pass when you post such nonsense for attention?

Yeah....I did that as well. But it doesn't change the fact you lied and I called it out.

Or.......are you sticking by the comment, "HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose."??

If so then defend it. Substantiate it. argue it.

"I forgot.
It was the Africans.
They were having sex with monkeys.
Thanks for the reminder.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack"

Was this total sarcasm?

#83 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:16 PM | Reply

A bunch of nonsense ...

#5 clowns**** lives up to his name when he says, "HIV was made in a lab in New York and spread to the LGBT community on purpose."


#12 | Posted by A_Friend at
2026-07-21 04:30 PM
I suppose that, just like MAGAts, clowns**** can't control himself.

#84 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-22 12:19 PM | Reply

"Ain't Talkin'"

www.google.com

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-22 12:21 PM | Reply

Hi Snoofy

I haven't seen "The Bedford Incident," but if I come across the book I'll read it. I don't watch TV or movies anymore.

Sidney Poitier was also in an anti-apartheid film The Wilby Conspiracy (1974) which was good from what I recall from...last century.

BTW: Both the novel and film version of The Manchurian Candidate are excellent. In the film version, Americans were exposed to Japanese karate for the first time on the big screen. Americans has seen bits of Japanese martial arts judo or ju-jitsu in films since the early 1930s, but never karate until 1962.

Then came this:


"Hai yah!"

#86 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-22 12:22 PM | Reply

Re 82

Did you bother to even read your own link?

There are unresolved questions about HIV origins and emergence.

There is a whole section on it called Emergence. Perhaps you should read it. While it does not support any conspiracy theories it does say there are many things about its emergence that remain unexplained.

It is not yet explained why only four HIV groups (HIV-1 groups M and O, and HIV-2 groups A and B) spread considerably in human populations, despite bushmeat practices being widespread in Central and West Africa,[13] and the resulting human SIV infections being common.[25]

It also remains unexplained why all epidemic HIV groups emerged in humans nearly simultaneously, and only in the 20th century, despite very old human exposure to SIV (a 2010 phylogenetic study demonstrated that SIV is at least tens of thousands of years old).[26]

#87 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-22 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eberly continues making it all about me and AFriend shows up with nothing because no one wants to be Blue MAGA.

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 12:24 PM | Reply

Why is corky posting the same song over and over?

#89 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:25 PM | Reply

"Eberly continues making it all about my lie"

FT

Forget everything after #5 in this thread.

Let's just go back to #5.

Otherwise, we can be distracted with posts about songs or books. Not even those guys are trying to help you substantiate that assertion.

#90 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:29 PM | Reply

-There are unresolved questions about HIV origins and emergence.

yeah.

#91 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:32 PM | Reply

I read an article about how HIV was created in a lab in New York City.

It makes more sense to me than it being from Africans having sex with monkeys or eating monkeys.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. so be it.

But I'm glad I gave Eberly an opportunity to be a victim of my DR privilege.

#92 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 12:34 PM | Reply

Let's just go back to #5.

Let's.

Or let's not.

Either way. This wasn't something I was planning on spending days discussing.

Just pretend that last sentence wasn't part of #92 and let's continue from there.

#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 12:37 PM | Reply

There are unresolved questions about HIV origins and emergence.

This will always be true because it didn't start in a LAB, we can understand the pattern of evolution of the disease, as we can still find it in nature in some form.

We can go back and with genetic tracing measuring mutations over time, to prove that HIV-1 crossed from primates into humans around the 1920s in Central Africa.
www.pbs.org

We don't know which monkey it was that transferred HIV to humans. ergo there will always be unresolved questions.

#94 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-22 12:42 PM | Reply

-I read an article about how HIV was created in a lab in New York City.

Fair enough.

Post the article and offer it up as something to discuss. You can do that without declaring it as fact.

That would be more than reasonable.

But no........you read something you NEEDED to be true.....so it became.......true.

And damn Eberly for daring to challenge it.

I didn't make this about you. YOU made it about you. I made it about your #5.

"If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. so be it"

You could said all of this 80 posts ago.

But you couldn't.......why?

#95 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:43 PM | Reply

I read an article about how HIV was created in a lab in New York City.

Link? I have never heard of this theory, and even if I read about it, I would suspect it conspiratorial.

#96 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-22 12:43 PM | Reply

#95 | POSTED BY EBERLY

it is wild how he just relents after all this.

Pretty soon now, R2D2 should be along to claim Eberly and OneNut shouldn't post on this site, because we were so owned.

#97 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-22 12:45 PM | Reply

#89 |

Still not talking about what other people post.... good on you!

#98 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-22 12:45 PM | Reply


I would suspect it conspiratorial.
#96 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

The reason for this is the technology didn't exist.

#99 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-22 12:46 PM | Reply

-I read an article about how HIV was created in a lab in New York City.

I really hope that's true.

It's bad enough you attempted to offer it as fact but I really hope you didn't lie about the existence of the article on top of it.

#100 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:48 PM | Reply

yeah.

POSTED BY EBERLY

It is human nature with so many unresolved questions for humans to develop theories (conspiracies) that will attempt to fill the void. (See COVID -19)

This is why it's so important to fund our pandemic research teams overseas to find the origins of these deadly viruses.

#101 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-22 12:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Still not talking about what other people post.... good on you!

Why is corky posting that song over and over?

I think it's a fair question.

#102 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:50 PM | Reply

This will always be true because it didn't start in a LAB,
#94 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

You posted up thread that you believe COVID-19 originated in a LAB (post #46).

But all accepted analysis states it came from a virus mutating and crossing from animals to humans.

One wonders why you choose not to believe that.

But are sure HIV came from a virus mutation crossing from animal to human.

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 12:51 PM | Reply

#67 | Posted by A_Friend

Why would someone archive years of the Retort? Even if it's for fun, what a life.

A question I posed sometime back: Who came here in 2005 and created sock puppets and why?

I don't know what Hans is up to these days. Nor do I know what A_Friend is up to.

But it's interesting.

#104 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-22 12:52 PM | Reply

-It is human nature with so many unresolved questions for humans to develop theories (conspiracies) that will attempt to fill the void. (See COVID -19)

Wow, you just compared Clown to a COVID denier.

I'm sure he appreciates your help.

-This is why it's so important to fund our pandemic research teams overseas to find the origins of these deadly viruses.

Agreed

#105 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:52 PM | Reply

Has anybody ever asked the clearly identified Israeli trolls how the weather is in Tel Aviv or the kibbutzes they live on -- or what paperwork or payment problems Israelis face with their top ten universal healthcare system, thanks to the hard-working American taxpayer?

No?

I can't because I employ *Killfile*; it's moot interacting with disingenuous holograms.

I have a suspicion CutiePie -- as I predicted last night -- made one of her/his hit and run "Wall of Text" messages (like Phil Spector) to distract Americans on drudge.com from something sinister going with the Israelis, AIPAC, or the US Congress.

What it is, we'll soon find out.

#106 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-22 12:53 PM | Reply

I think the recent spate of "puling" here is courtesy of a poster railing against progressives. I forget which one.

It's a great word.

#107 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-22 12:53 PM | Reply

It's bad enough you attempted to offer it as fact but I really hope you didn't lie about the existence of the article on top of it.

#100 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Bad for democrats even as sarcasm.

But ok for maga maroons to do on an hourly basis when they really mean it.

It's interesting how much energy you put into holding Dems accountable and how little you put into holding maga accountable.

I don't think I have never seen you go after The Turd the way you go after Clown.

#108 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-22 12:53 PM | Reply

-But ok for maga maroons to do on an hourly basis when they really mean it.

don't misunderstand my challenging Clown for that comment as pretending others here don't do it as well.

-I don't think I have never seen you go after Clown the way you go after The Turd.

FT

#109 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 12:58 PM | Reply

-holding Dems accountable

I was challenging Clown.

I ignore snoofy, and now speakstupid.....and others.

I've challenged billjohnson plenty of times....and others.

I'm not going after dems.

#110 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 01:00 PM | Reply

Hi DBT2:

You must know who all of the Israeli trolls on drudge.com are by now.

R2D2, A. Fiend, CutiePie, etc.

There are other Israeli trolls who come and go, possibly sharing the same alias and password over the decades.

"Here you go, Avi. Slime Coriolanus or Clownshack today."

All PSYOP tactics are used: Cajole, convince, distract, or butter up, and when all else fails, denigrate, harass, insult, stalk, or abuse.

These Israeli trolls have a similar function on rightwing web-blogs where they smear conservatives such as Joe Kent, Tucker Carlson, or MTG as antisemites when they are in fact anti-AIPAC.

"You're good people."

#111 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-22 01:02 PM | Reply

-Who came here in 2005 and created sock puppets and why?

I created one back then but I've never used it.

There are tons and tons of them, for sure.

#112 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 01:03 PM | Reply

I'm not going after dems.

POSTED BY EBERLY

Uh huh. Sure.

#113 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-22 01:09 PM | Reply

"Wow, you just compared Clown to a COVID denier."

WOW. YOU have horrible reading comprehension.

I did no such thing.

But conspiracy theories are conspiracy theories.

No matter who spreads them.

#114 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-22 01:13 PM | Reply

I don't think I have never seen you go after The Turd the way you go after Clown.

Because he agrees with Turds.

He comes here to tell liberals and progressives how much we overreact to everything.

How this is just America as usual.

200 years ago we were lynching Black people.

In 2026 we're still lynching black people. But it's frowned upon. Look how much we've improved.

Stop overreacting to what Trump and republicans are doing.

#115 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 01:41 PM | Reply

I was challenging Clown.

To what?

A 30 second google search?

"In the 1980s, there were claims circulating that HIV was man-made and was manufactured in a biological weapons laboratory in the United States and transferred to Zaire in 1977."

en.wikipedia.org

www.snopes.com

#116 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 01:48 PM | Reply

-I did no such thing.

Uh huh, sure

#117 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 01:51 PM | Reply

It's interesting how much energy you put into holding Dems accountable and how little you put into holding maga accountable.
#108 | Posted by donnerboy

It's actually very boring.
But yeah. It's what he does.
He's a Republican.
Don't expect him to be different from any other Republican.

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-22 01:51 PM | Reply

"In the 1980s, there were claims circulating that HIV was man-made and was manufactured in a biological weapons laboratory in the United States and transferred to Zaire in 1977."

And they were placed next to Elvis sightings where they belonged.

But you needed it to be true.

So fucking desperately that you posted it as fact.

Which should embarrass you.

#119 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 01:55 PM | Reply

But you needed it to be true.
#119 | Posted by eberly

Your entire Republican Party needs climate change to be a hoax.

Now, which is the larger issue for humanity, the threat of HIV or the threat of manmade global warming?

#120 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-22 01:57 PM | Reply

"In the 1980s, there were claims circulating that HIV was man-made and was manufactured in a biological weapons laboratory in the United States and transferred to Zaire in 1977."

Claims are not evidence. This is buffalo bob territory.

#121 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-22 02:00 PM | Reply

Especially since it's been 40+ years those were invented and scrutinized and refuted.

#122 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 02:04 PM | Reply

you needed it to be true.
#119 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I do?

Seems like you need me to want it to be true.

Because when it comes to me, it's personal.

I've kicked you up and down the DR so much, you're clinging onto this comment I made as if I had personal stake in it being true.

You poor. Poor. Thing.

#123 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 02:07 PM | Reply

Especially since it's been 40+ years those were invented and scrutinized and refuted.
#122 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I guess since it's only been 6 years, you can ignore OneTrumper's claims about Covid being manufactured in a Lab.

We'll need 34 more years of time to pass before you can call him out.

Or any other Covid denier for that matter.

The only thing consistent about Eberly is how inconsistent he is.

#124 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 02:11 PM | Reply

-Because when it comes to me, it's personal.

Everyone here who has tried to push a conspiracy theory wanted that theory to be true.

Moon landing
9-11
COVID
Sarah Palins baby.

And this.

It's not personal. It's how conspiracy theories work.

#125 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 02:12 PM | Reply

-as if I had personal stake in it being true.

There is no "as if". You DO have a personal stake in it being true.

You passionately hate republicans and conservatives and you're a homosexual.

It's 100% personal to you.

JFC

#126 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 02:15 PM | Reply

It's not personal.

Of course it is.

You wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that.

You have yet to acknowledge OneTrumper stating for a fact Covid was made in a Lab.

Maybe because you're not really convinced about the official story of Covid's origin.

You grew up learning HIV was from monkeys and Africans and so you simply accept it.

But. All your republican buddies are telling you covid was a plandemic and you're not sure who to believe.

#127 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 02:19 PM | Reply

So here we go again, I'm posting facts, and clown is crying because he doesn't like the facts

My facts are unfair to him.

Why don't I use my facts on others instead of just him?

But again, clown lies, I tell the truth, but I'm the villain here.

Every
Single
Day

#128 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-22 02:21 PM | Reply


You passionately hate republicans and conservatives and you're a homosexual.
#126 | POSTED BY EBERLY

And now it becomes clear why this is personal to you.

Because you saw my comment as a personal attack on you.

Thanks for clearing it up.

#129 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 02:21 PM | Reply

I'm posting facts,
#128 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Where?

Are they on a different thread?

All you've posted on this thread are your opinions.

#130 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-22 02:22 PM | Reply

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