On the other hand, green card holders, as well as refugees and asylum seekers are considered "Persons".
#85 | POSTED BY REDIAL

As it should be. We are going through the legal means of immigration.

Senator Schumer has already sent a strongly worded letter to Republicans so he's onboard with the shutdown.
#4 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

How will the Democrats spin this as the Republicans fault?

I am not a gun owner, and generally am opposed to gun ownership, but...

The fuss about the victim being armed while on the streets appears to me to be the first step in the confiscation of firearms in private hands.

It wasn't that he was armed on the streets, this is such an equivocation, omitting facts to conform to a narrative, it's that he was irresponsible.

He obstructed an officer of the law without saying he was armed, with a concealed weapon. The subduing of Pretti was going as many of these interaction do, him struggling and resisting. Officers then discovered the concealed weapon, yelled "GUN", removed it from the struggle. Were there more weapons? Who knew at that time? Only Pretti knew. Until Pretti is subdued and searched only can they then declare "CLEAR".

Then things get strange, either the weapon accidentally discharged (twitchy trigger on SIG pistols) as the officer was walking away with the weapon or when Pretti in his struggle, got on his knee and reached to his back where the weapon was previously holstered was then shot (famous photo TruthNLies posted). The officers reacted, knowing the suspect had/has a gun.

The investigation will determine the timing of the events, I believe when he reached to his back hip, the first shot had just rung out, but the videos/audio are too jumpy to make a solid determination. Ergo IMO the weapon had an accidental discharge, and the other officers reacted to the sound (first shot, then tiny pause, then multiple shots are fired).

Tragic, all because a person brought a concealed weapon to a protest, which is his right, but doesn't absolve someone from being irresponsible.

#6 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND
#4 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Hows that medication working? Do you need to see your Dr weekly? You might look into that.

Gun owners: watch the video of those ICE raids. That could happen at your house, and sooner than you think. Your possession of a firearm makes you a threat to a tyrant...

#3 | POSTED BY CATDOG

Ridiculous, they didn't kill him just because he had a gun. They killed him because he had a gun and was irresponsible in its use.

There are MN laws about duty to inform if you interact with LEO's Also every CCW class teaches that interacting with law enforcement is a situation that can go south quickly when carrying out in public. The CCW --------- inform the officer of possession, and turn over the weapon if instructed.

Guns are dangerous to be around, dangerous to own, and should be handled with respect. Pretti didn't take his responsibility seriously.

Hilarious, just because a guy with a gun dies the NRA is attacking the government.

Nothing will come of this, nothing about what the government did infringed on his 2A rights.

He didn't brandish the weapon, but he did conceal and bring one, causing more risk to him and community. As every good anti-2A person (like myself) knows heightens the risk and the intensity of the encounter. There are even ADs in Santa Clara on how to ask your neighbors if they have weapons on the premises. Why?

Because guns are ------- dangerous.

Lumpers cheering the NRA's stance really show they don't care about guns, they just hate Trump and/or Republicans, anything to own the CONS.

If you really cared you'd argue SEE this is what guns in the hands of the public creates and we should ban weapons in public spaces.

Why does Trump need a huge, weaponized, massively funded paramilitary force emboldened the Get Out Of Jail Free card of "absolute immunity"?

#3 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Let me see.

1. There's indications that a Signal chat exists organized by the MN State officials to obstruct justice.
2. Local PD doesn't protect Federal officers. (you complain about their training, well have local PD protect them)
3. Biden let in Millions of illegal immigrants, gave them impermanent status (TPS), even I knew Trump would come along and revoke it .. you idiots.

I could go on, but structurally, I know your mind can't comprehend the facts, because you're running on emotion, given your language and lack of curiosity.

BTW that's called Obstructing Justice which is breaking the law.

We might be in insurrection territory.

Documents and Signal chats have been "recorded" in which people in MN are organizing obstruction of justice.

This as I stated in the first thread on the topic, things are going to get worse before they get better. IMO pro government Democrats should understand what is happening is MN is orchestrated by not only foreigners, but also the State government is involved (organizing the Signal chat & documents). They need to distance themselves in some form, or else this can go sideways really fast.

Serious days ahead, A_MORONs inability to comprehend this is due to his not taking prescribed mental medication, which last time got him suspended.

Listening and agreeing with someone that has political aspirations is fraught with problems.

No difference than a MAGAt quoting Trump.

I stated this PoV in my initial post on the topic.

Did the decedent's firearm go off as the officer removed it turned with it in hand.

My understanding is that particular weapon has a twitchy trigger, meaning slight top of barrel touch and the weapon can discharge.

IMO it was handled with care, so its not negligent discharge, its an accidental accidental (gun defect).

Some lawyers have mentioned SIG might be culpable in this case.