Trump Lied Constantly, Rambled Incoherently

Friday, June 28, 2024

Heather Cox Richardson: Virtually unmentioned was the fact that Trump lied and rambled incoherently, ignored questions to say whatever he wanted; refused to acknowledge the events of January 6, 2021; and refused to commit to accepting the result of the 2024 presidential election, finally saying he would accept it only if it met his standards for fairness. ... His entire performance was either lies or rambling non-sequiturs.

Posted by retort at 12:01 PM | 120 COMMENTS | permalink

Comments

Trumpanzee didn't answer a single question and basically just did his well-rehearsed diatribe. There was no thought put into anything he said. He looked aggressive the same as he did when he hovered over Hillary threatening to imprison her.

#1 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-06-28 12:20 PM

Yes but Biden stuttered and mumbled. So there!

You want to know the real difference between democrats and republicans?

Democrats will still vote for Joe Biden even if he was old and stutters and was sitting in a hospital.

Republican will vote for Trumpy even if he was an old deranged and convicted felon sitting in a jail cell.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-28 12:22 PM

Yes, and this is why Trump lost his end of the debate.

Biden stumbled but Trump fell on his face.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-28 12:25 PM

#2 POSTED BY DONNERBOY

If what you say is right then obviously the country is in dire need of a viable third party

#4 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-28 12:25 PM

Trumanzee is a sock puppet same as Reagan. Prattling on rehearsed phrases. Biden is just old but aware of what he is saying.

#5 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-06-28 12:32 PM

If what you say is right then obviously the country is in dire need of a viable third party

#4 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Which is a pipe dream.

But I can't argue with you there except to say right now it's obvious we should have listened to George Washington and have
NO political factions in America (which is obviously a pipe dream now, too) .

George Washington warned us that political factions may seek to obstruct the execution of the laws created by the government or to prevent the branches of government from exercising the powers provided to them by the constitution.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-28 12:32 PM

What bothers me about the sock puppet type is you get an "Iran Contra" situation where he was a prop because he was like a windup toy of phrases republicl0wns find comforting as they committed crimes against humanity.

#7 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-06-28 12:36 PM

#6 POSTED BY DONNERBOY

And sitting quietly by, watching, AI plans its next move...

#8 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-28 12:38 PM

If AI was used to check all of trumps lies it would commit suicide.

#9 | Posted by Tor at 2024-06-28 12:43 PM

#9 | POSTED BY TOR

AI may look at trumps lies as talking points for dems to waste time on

#10 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-28 12:47 PM

AI may look at trumps lies as talking points for dems to waste time on

#10 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Like how well you play golf has anything to do with running a country.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-28 12:56 PM

#11 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

exactly...they both went overboard on that one

#12 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-28 12:59 PM

The fact that Biden couldn't pounce on ANY of it really saved Trump.

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-28 01:19 PM

Trump lied nonstop and used the time allotted for him to say what ever he wanted. True.

But. Biden was incoherent and lost his train of thought while talking.

It was difficult to watch. Very.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-28 01:21 PM

Biden's killing it at the rally in NC.
Point after point after point.
The crowd is going crazy for him.
Strong and vigorous and full of integrity and passion.
This is what we needed last night.

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-28 01:23 PM

Trump used the "Gish Gallop"

#16 | Posted by TenMile at 2024-06-28 01:26 PM

Don't forget. The debate was about convincing undecided voters.

Rambling? Incoherent? Doesn't matter. Undecided voters are the dumbest people on the planet.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-28 01:30 PM

"Biden's killing it at the rally in NC."

Sounds like some good news.

Maybe Biden now realizes he cannot rest on his laurels and how hard he really needs to work to overcome the inertia of Trumpy's derangement and his lies.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-28 01:44 PM

I thought Trump was going to correct Biden when Biden said the bit about 'courts decided the cases had no merit'(referring to the 2020 election irregularities) when in fact the cases were not decided, not even heard, but were instead rejected on technicalities ie 'lack of standing'.

#19 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-28 03:14 PM

"in fact the cases were not decided, not even heard"

LOTs of cases were heard. None had evidence of any fraud at scale. IIRC, one "case" got cut short when the judge asked how many Biden votes they were talking about. The lawyers said that didn't matter, the irregularities alone required the judge to throw out the results. When the judges pressed them, they admitted all the irregular votes had gone for Trump.

Did you catch that? Team Trump wanted Biden's win thrown out and Trump declared the winner...because Trump voters had committed irregularities.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-28 03:20 PM

I thought
#19 | POSTED BY LOOK_INWARD

Doubtful.

Your posts indicate no sign of thought.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-28 03:21 PM

"LOTs of cases were heard. "

Here's a link, and a summary.
campaignlegal.org

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-28 03:22 PM

Putin's bitch is the master of unleashing a shartnado of lies.

#23 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-28 03:31 PM

Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped due to lack of evidence or lack of standing,[3

#24 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-28 03:39 PM

Trump is planning to steal the election! We must insist on voter ID and paper ballots!

#25 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-28 03:43 PM

"due to lack of evidence"

YES. As in (Rusty Bowers) "Show me the evidence", and (Rudy Gulliani) "We've got a lot of theories; we just don't have any evidence."

Ask yourself: Why did the lawyers screaming "FRAUD" from the lectern NEVER claim fraud inside the courtroom?

My theory is, it's not illegal TO LIE TO YOU from the lectern, but if a lawyer claims Fraud in court, without proof, they can be fined, censured, sanctioned, disbarred, or worse.

What's your theory?

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-28 03:46 PM

I can understand people lying when they feel they have to.

I get the logic of people lying when they feel there's something to be gained.

But telling obvious lies and expecting people to believe them is something only a crazy person does and dullards find acceptable.

#27 | Posted by Tor at 2024-06-28 03:46 PM

"or lack of standing"

Lack of standing would be one of the cases I referenced, where irregularities went "the other way", so no one in the courtroom had been injured.

Did you read the summaries of the court decisions?

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-28 03:50 PM

#28

campaignlegal.org

-dismissed three of Trump's four claims under the doctrine of laches
-said officials allegedly issued guidance on state election statutes that deviated significantly from the requirements of Wisconsin's election statutes. First, the court found that interpretations of election administration rules do not fall under the meaning of "Manner" in the Electors Clause.
-deviations from state election law are not the same as modifications of state election law.
-plaintiff failed to meet the evidentiary standard necessary for such a contest. First, plaintiff's evidence failed to show fraud or misconduct"rather, it showed that the duplication process of the presidential election was 99.45% accurate, and that the inaccuracies were caused by human error. (the 'duplication process' was done using the same cheat ballots as the original)
---mostly procedural hooha

There was less evidence available because of observer exclusion and destroying ballots and envelopes before they could be re-examined.

Judge axes 'presumption of validity' rule for absentee voter ...
The Detroit News
www.detroitnews.com politics 2024
Jun 13, 2024 " A Court of Claims judge ruled absentee signature verification guidelines issued to clerks cannot instruct them to presume the validity of a ...

#29 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-28 04:05 PM

CNN
www.cnn.com 2024 politics arizona-...
3 days ago " A temporary election worker in Arizona was arrested Saturday after allegedly stealing a security fob and keys from the Maricopa County ...

It's just so obvious that they're willing to cheat. Excluding the observers and locking the doors, blocking the windows. Claiming that blacks don't have ID. Claiming that mail-in ballots are not vulnerable. It looks crooked even if it's not.

#30 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-28 04:15 PM

Diebold Indicted: Its spectre still haunts Ohio elections
Columbus Free Press
https://columbusfreepress.com article diebold-indicte...
Oct 31, 2013 " Diebold: the controversial manufacturer of voting and ATM machines, whose name conjures up the demons of Ohio's 2004 presidential election ...

In May 2010, Dominion acquired Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold Election Systems, Inc.)

-Now they're suddenly clean

In total, 28 states used Dominion voting machines to tabulate their votes during the 2020 United States presidential election, including most of the swing states.

ANY electronic machine is HACKABLE a good job leaves no evidence

#31 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-28 04:22 PM

So Biden is old and slow while Trump is a liar and a felon. I think that accurately sums it up.

#32 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-06-28 07:38 PM

"Yes, and this is why Trump lost his end of the debate.
Biden stumbled but Trump fell on his face.
#3 | POSTED BY ZED"

Said NOBODY that actually watched the debate. If this is your take, then you are just as historically stupid as this debate was historically lopsided.

#33 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-06-28 08:26 PM

@#33 ... Said NOBODY that actually watched the debate. ...

Really?

Got a link for that?

While I will say that a majority of those who watched the debate had said that fmr Pres Trump won the debate, I will also say that there were some who said that Pres Biden won.

If I remember (memory is hazy) it was a 70-30 type of result.

So, to say that (and in all caps nonetheless) that nobody who watched the debate said Pres Biden won is a lie.

What else yer got?

#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 09:06 PM

"@#33 ... Said NOBODY that actually watched the debate. ...
Really?
Got a link for that?
#34 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

You want me to link to someone not saying something?

Fine, here you go

link:

#35 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-06-28 09:10 PM

Y'all keep grasping at straws. That debate was an abject and unmitigated disaster for Biden regardless of deficiencies displayed by Trump.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-28 09:23 PM

@#35 ... You want me to link to someone not saying something? ...

Yeah, I know the absurdity of what I posted. Which is why I posted it. It was a reflection upon the absurdity of your comment.

So, then the question becomes, why did your current alias post a comment that it admits it cannot substantiate?

#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 09:33 PM

@#36 ... That debate was an abject and unmitigated disaster for Biden regardless of deficiencies displayed by Trump. ....

I would not go that far.

Yeah, Pres Biden's performance during the debate was not the best it could have been.

But then do we really want a lying convict in the Oval Office?

At this point, the question for me becomes less of the debate performance, and more along the lines of Country over Party.

The GOP, on a whole, seems to want to endeavor to turn the US Republic into an autocracy.

So, debate performance aside, that is my real concern here.

#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 09:37 PM

What else yer got?
#34 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Yer retarded.

#39 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-06-28 10:00 PM

#40 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-28 10:10 PM

Current standings:

Post debate, when the Morning Consult "survey asked respondents to choose between Biden and former President Trump, 45% chose the president and 44% chose the former commander-in-chief." The exact margin measured in the poll "taken after Trump's conviction" on multiple (34) felonies.

"President Joe Biden has lost no immediate ground to Trump," per Morning Consult's findings."

This is the second poll to find no shift. Now we wait and see how it shakes out.

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-28 10:15 PM

"The GOP, on a whole, seems to want to endeavor to turn the US Republic into an autocracy."

Thats just how right wingers think.

They always want a strong leader, and they want him to use that strength not to build a better future, but to punish the wicked for their past transgressions.

Like firing Federal emolo

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-28 10:15 PM

Like firing Federal employees who aren't loyal to Trump.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-28 10:15 PM

The issue with Trump lying constantly is.

The people who care weren't going to vote for him in the first place.

Deplorable Trumping MAGAts either don't care that he's lying or are too stupid to realize he's lying.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-28 10:20 PM

@#39 ... Yer retarded. ...

Why?

Because the current alias I replied to apparently cannot answer my simple question?

And now a zombie alias that seems to have awoke (awoken?) from the dead chimes in?

What else yer got?

#45 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 10:25 PM

In fairness biden also lied.

He said he was against dictators yet he suckss zionazi dick chronically. He also said he supports Ukraine but the record shows he will do anything to extend that war and pump Raytheon stock.

#46 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-06-28 10:37 PM

@#46 ... In fairness biden also lied. ...

But the real question is: does Pres Biden lie as much as fmr Pres Trump lies?

As I have stated many times, all politicians lie.

But fmr Pres Trump seems to take such lying to an order of magnitude greater than any other President.

That is my concern.

So please stop with citing how other politicians lie.

The issue here looks to me to be that fmr Pres Trump lies so much that now it is readily accepted.

Is that what we want to see in candidates for the Oval Office?

#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 10:47 PM

"But the real question is: does Pres Biden lie as much as fmr Pres Trump lies?"

That's not the real question. The real question is why is trump's opposition lying?

No one with a functioning brain expects trump to tell the truth. He's literally a fascist. Why is the alleged democrat lying and supporting a right wing dictator?

#48 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-06-28 10:52 PM

"Trump lies more though" is a perfect example of the insanity of the reactionary conservative neoliberal mind.

#49 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-06-28 10:53 PM

Neoliberals cosplaying as democrats are just ------- republicans living in a hostile (to them) zip code.

Horrible people and biden's primary supporters. They will vote for trump as soon as it is fashionable in their country clubs.

#50 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-06-28 10:55 PM

Personally, I think the only ones that lost that debate were the American public.I think deep down we all know these two guys are not up to the job' The old man and the con man. Now, if that fat orange traitors should happen to win then, not only do the good people in the USA lose but the entire world loses...excluding a lot of really rich right wing scumbags, corporations, some SCOTUS/Congress senators and of course Vlady the Mass Murderer Putler and others his ilk who will gain a lot more of our wealth as it trickles every upwards and Ukraine loses their freedom and any other countries that come under the boot of that ------ Putler.

#51 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-06-28 10:55 PM

@#48 ... That's not the real question. The real question is why is trump's opposition lying? ...

So, your current alias seems to agree with my opinion, yet it objects to that opinion.

OK.

#52 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 11:02 PM

@#50 ... Neoliberals cosplaying as democrats are just ------- republicans living in a hostile (to them) zip code.

Horrible people and biden's primary supporters. They will vote for trump as soon as it is fashionable in their country clubs. ...

OK, this unsubstantiated assertion explains its prior comment.

Thank-you for that.

#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 11:04 PM

The desperation from the DR far left morons is palpable. Trump was lying his ass off, as usual. At least he was coherent and walked off the stage briskly while Jill has to lead Joementia down some short stairs. He'll never recover from this until the next debate, if any. If I was the DNC, I wouldn't put this unembalmed corpse back up there under the same circumstances.

#54 | Posted by willowby at 2024-06-28 11:07 PM

@#51 ... Personally, I think the only ones that lost that debate were the American public.I think deep down we all know these two guys are not up to the job' ...

I'm not yet ready to agree with that.

But to your point, presuming I did agree, I'm taking a step back and looking that the two parties. ...

The GOP looks to be moving towards an autocratic dictatorship.

The Dems seem to be moving towards the Constitution.

For me the choice is easy. Country above Party.

Since the GOP seems to be moving towards autocratic rule, at this point, I cannot support them.

#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 11:09 PM

@#54 ... the DR far left morons ...

Quick question --- do you include me, and my posts, in that group?

#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 11:10 PM

#56

Your "current alias" schtick is tiring.
Your "more from the article" is tiring.
Your incessant questioning is tiring.

Other than that, not really.

#57 | Posted by willowby at 2024-06-28 11:15 PM

@#57 ... Now that Putin's for Biden you gonna vote Trump? ...

I apologize if my comments seem to bore you.

But I prefer information instead of unsubstantiated "alternate facts."

Deal with it.

My question to your current alias still stands, unanswered.

Albeit with an apparent deflection attempt.

Why?

#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 11:24 PM

"In fairness biden also lied.

He said he was against dictators yet he suckss zionazi dick chronically. He also said he supports Ukraine but the record shows he will do anything to extend that war and pump Raytheon stock."

#46 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

"dictators" "sionazi"? Hmmm, as bad as that Israeli president is and he is bad you get no argument from me on that but, he was elected in a fair election and how can a Jew be a nazi by the way? Is he building rail lines to extermination camps with gas chambers? Do they do experimental surgery on their prisoners or gas 10,000 of them a day? No. I think you just hate Jewish people... and probably Moslems too for that matter as there is 1.5 million Moslems in Israel and you seem to ignore that fact when they were invaded by your poster boy heroes Hamass who blasts them, weekly and yearly with projectiles. By the way, there is a war going on over in Sudan which is ten times larger than the conflict in Gaza but you seem not to mind in your antisemitic BS diatribe. I guess 'that' war did not make it through your slanted algorithms that your cel phone feeds you on a daily basis packed with abject propaganda right out of the Mullahs hands in Iran. Why all the fuss about the poor Moslems getting whacked in Gaza but not one word of the mass raping, displacement and murdering going on just further south in Africa where over 10 million people face death from starvation or murder? Do you hate black Moslems or something or only wars that Jews are involved in matter as we all know that the Holocaust never happened like your friends back in Iran and on college campus in the west will tell you. Here is a hint, All war is evil spread the word.

#59 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-06-28 11:31 PM

@#59 ... Hmmm ...

So, unsubstantiated opinions.

What else yer got?

#60 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 11:40 PM

#58

I forgot your current alias is pretty dense.

#61 | Posted by willowby at 2024-06-28 11:41 PM

"Trump was lying his ass off, as usual. At least he was coherent and walked off the stage briskly"

How can needing help down the steps be worse than the constant lying.

That is the thing we can't understand.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-28 11:48 PM

@#61 ... I forgot your current alias is pretty dense. ...

It is quite easy to throw an accusation.

What is more difficult is the substantiation of that accusation.

So, what's yer got?

#63 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-28 11:55 PM

#62

I'm not voting for either of these geriatric idiots. Been a registered Libertarian forever. I'll "waste" my vote.

#64 | Posted by willowby at 2024-06-28 11:57 PM

#63

Don't feed the trolls. I lost sight of that.

#65 | Posted by willowby at 2024-06-28 11:59 PM

"#44 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

ALL politicians lie - so you are relegated to trying to convince us it is the degree of lying. I really don't care if Trump exaggerates his golf handicap or his crowd sizes by using the words like "largest" and "best" as these are commonly used in speaking and not intended to be taken literally. This is the type of ---- that -------- constantly want to call out as lies and amounts to fact checking opinions - which is not possible by definition.

What we are left with is:

Candidate A:
1. Old, frail, mentally compromised
2. A known pedophile per his own daughter
3. Suspected to be corrupt based on Hunter's laptop and Ukraine and China dealings
4. Allowed 12M+ illegals to flood the country
5. Ushered in MASSIVE inflation
6. Presided over the word burning with active wars in Israel, Ukraine, and the trade routes near Yemen
7. The first state acknowledged attack by Iran on Israel
8. By a vast majority of Americans, believed to have delivered a materially worse economy than Trump
9. An explosion in DEI and LGBT invading corporations and schools
10. His campaign promise is to deliver more of the same

Candidate B:
1. Universally great memories of his first term outside of covid impacting the entire world
2. Not a faithful husband
3. Prone to exaggeration and bragging
4. Mean tweets
5. Ushering in world peace
6. Delivering energy independence and inflation under the 2% Fed target
7. Unwilling to bend over for the world and NATO as he places America First
8. Immigration plan in place and working
9. His campaign promise is to do more of the same plus remove the Deep State from the US

Sorry, it is not even close on which one to choose which is why Trump is dominating the national polls, winning every swing state and the Dems are clamoring to remove Biden as the candidate.

I will note - there is a poll with Trump +1 in MINNESOTA. Minnesota has not gone GOP since 1972. The people are fed up with the ------- nonsense and elections in the UK, France, and the Netherlands show this to be a global trend.

#66 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-06-29 12:11 AM

@#65

So, ya got nothin' besides unsubstantiated accusations.

Good to know.

#67 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-29 12:15 AM

ALL politicians lie - so you are relegated to trying to convince us it is the degree of lying.

So. I'll put you in the category of, "don't care" that Trump is a habitual liar.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-29 12:16 AM

@#66 Sorry, it is not even close on which one to choose ...

Why does your current alias seem to find the need to apologize for a political opinion?

Does it seem to know it is posting pasture pastries?

#69 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-29 12:18 AM

@#68 ... So. I'll put you in the category of, "don't care" that Trump is a habitual liar. ...

yeah.

That is the main issue for this election, as I see it.

Regardless of the details, fmr Pres Trump seemed to want an overthrow of the results of a valid election.

Full stop.

Why did fmr Pres Trump (and still does not) not accept the results of a valid election?

Here's what top Trump VP picks say about the 2020 election results -- and whether they'll accept the 2024 outcome (May 2024)

... No matter how much closer the country gets to the 2024 election, Donald Trump can't stop looking back to the one four years ago.

On the campaign trail, the former president consistently brings up his unfounded claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him by Democrats. This past weekend in Minnesota, he falsely told his supporters that he won the state last time around. (Joe Biden won by 7 percentage points.)

And Trump has even said he doesn't really want to hire anyone on his campaign who accepted that Biden won in 2020: "I wouldn't feel good about it."

Yet a number of politicians considered top contenders for becoming Trump's running mate did just that, and now have to show their loyalty to the former president in other ways. Others, however, have long been vocal with their false claims of a rigged election.

Three of those top contenders --" Sens. JD Vance of Ohio, Marco Rubio of Florida and Tim Scott of South Carolina -- could, if chosen to be on Trump's ticket, find themselves in the position of certifying their own election outcome in the Senate in 2025, win or lose.

And now, duking it out to show Trump that they stand by him, none of these potential vice presidential picks have committed to accepting the 2024 election results, whether Trump wins or loses. ...

#70 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-29 12:28 AM

Trump's lawyers in lawsuits claiming he won in 2020 are getting punished for abusing courts and making unsupported claims and false statements (June 4, 2024)
theconversation.com

... Over the past four years, U.S. courts and state bar associations have taken action to protect the integrity of the U.S. judicial system by penalizing attorneys who filed meritless lawsuits claiming " without evidence " that the 2020 presidential election results were invalid.

Despite aggressive litigation by attorneys denying wrongdoing, over time the U.S. legal community has exercised the oversight needed to hold most of them accountable for misusing U.S. courts.

Most lawsuits challenging the 2020 presidential election results were filed in federal courts. Federal judges not only dismissed the claims for lack of evidence, but some also penalized the attorneys who filed them.

Judge Linda Parker of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan acted first, ruling in August 2021 that a lawsuit filed by nine lawyers was "a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process." In a 110-page opinion, she wrote that the abuses included: ...

#71 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-29 12:32 AM

@#70

Oops, forgot the link.

www.nbcnews.com

#72 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-29 12:35 AM

Oh come on man!

The choice is clear.

One guy is a nice quiet slow talking humble old man and the other is a fast talking old liar who is also a convicted felon.

All politicians lie therefore we gotta go with the narcissistic criminally negligent lying convicted felon.

Obviously!

See you all on Dictator Day(aka The Purge).

It's gonna be wild!

#73 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-29 11:40 AM

Rcade having to do damage control after Biden's disaster of a debate. ;D

#74 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-29 11:40 AM

I am kind of glad he lost. Reminds him and the rest of us what we are up against this election season.

And now he will need to work even harder if he wants to beat Trumpy.

Joe always was the come back kid. Now he will just have to be the come back old man.

If my football team loses an important game but is still in the running for the superbowl I don't give up on them because they lost a game. I expect them to get out there and work even harder next time.

And don't listen to them dumabass Trumpers. If you got good performance enhancing drugs now is the time to use them.

Biden is not actually playing football or trying out for the Olympics. We are not going to put an asterisk by his presidency if he wins and saved America (from itself) , saved the Ukrainians and prevented a nuclear war or whatever and then we find out he used performance enhancing drugs to help him do it.

Remember ... JFK used performance enhancing drugs.

#75 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-29 12:10 PM

Mind altering drugs in the face of WWIII sounds like a fantastic recipe to get us all killed Donner. It's why Biden is going to lose.

#76 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-29 12:58 PM

Mind altering drugs in the face of WWIII sounds like a fantastic recipe to get us all killed Donner. It's why Biden is going to lose.

#76 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

I didn't say take LSD. I said clearly said performance enhancing drugs. That does not include mind altering drugs.

Is reading comprehension a problem for you?

Like I said and apparently you missed ... JFK actually prevented WW3 (see Cuban Missile Crisis) while on performance enhancing drugs.

#77 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-29 01:11 PM

No, JFK got his head blown off in Dallas and helped pave the way for the Vietnam war.

#78 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-29 02:02 PM

Moron.

#79 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-29 02:37 PM

These Two old Duffers, One a lying clown and the other a tired but basically
decent man are the best a nation of 330 million people can muster?

That says a whole lot about the state of our "Democracy".

How did we end up with such crappy choices?

Hillary and Trump, 2020, and now Biden and Trump.

If the evidence of Terminal Decline was latent before it's Obvious now.

America needs a big WAR. To justify our obscene military spending and unite the nation.

All the dead people won't matter much, they'll be DEAD.

No matter who Wins the election, WAR... writ large, is Coming.

America needs it to Survive.

#80 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-06-29 05:33 PM

So that explains Putin's disaster in Ukraine

#81 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-29 09:33 PM

Hahahaha I guess you missed the dementia patient he was debating

#82 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-06-30 01:18 AM

That debate was hard to watch, I don't care who you are. It seemed more of an event where the DNC KNOWINGLY humiliated Biden to accelerate him dropping out of the race.

#83 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-30 07:24 AM

The only thing more embarrassing than Joe's performance in the first half is the fact that you are still voting for trump.
Talk about having mental issues?
Not sure you're ready to confront yours.

#84 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-30 08:20 AM

Yav,

Just take the L. He's right about wha5 we all witnessed, and have been witnessing when it comes to Biden.

#85 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 09:46 AM

There are no answers to real problems in current American electoral politics. Democrats and Republicans will never do anything other than what the unelected empire managers instruct them to. If you are truly looking for answers you will need to look elsewhere.

#86 | Posted by Nerfherder at 2024-06-30 10:15 AM

#85- Jeff, can't comprehend what I wrote, can you?
If you are voting for Trump, the same applies to you.

#87 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-30 10:53 AM

Yav,

At this point anyone voting for Biden is debasing themselves.

#88 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 11:47 AM

Right wingers dishonestly act as if having a serial liar, white supremacist, anti-democracy, multiple felon, thief and fascist is somehow preferable to a man whose only true flaw is his age. The idiocy and dishonesty of Trump supporters is mind blowing.

#89 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-06-30 11:48 AM

" At this point anyone voting for Biden is debasing themselves."

Whereas that ship sailed eight years ago for Trump voters.

#90 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-30 11:50 AM

I will gladly do what you mistakenly call "debasing" myself and vote for the only candidate that will preserve our Republic.

Not even a question about it.

Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion is desirable (and the only sane course of action) over Divisiveness, Ethnocentricity, Intolerance.

#91 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-30 12:03 PM

I don't think the dems will suffer politically for bitem's non-performance.
As each passes, the pity support grows.
The dems know to win decisively, they need to replace Joe with someone like Newsom.

#92 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2024-06-30 12:04 PM

So, who is truly in charge at the WH? Who is setting policy? Who is calling the shots? Who is making the day to day decisions?

Hint: it's not the person people voted for.

#93 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 01:25 PM

Patricide Jeff's child-raping hero takes his orders from Putin.

#94 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-30 01:28 PM

JingleBelle apparently missed Dark Brandon's performance at the Rally the next day.

That was a guy in charge.... one debate does not make a failed President.

#95 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 01:50 PM

#95. Wow. He successfully read words off a teleprompter. That's quite an accomplishment. /. snark

#96 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 01:59 PM

A dementia-addled president makes for a failed president.

#97 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 01:59 PM

#97 There's no way you believe Reagan was a failure.

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 02:03 PM

96... obviously didn't see his Rally, but still knows all about it. Amazing, Gracie!

-dementia-addled

Ever look at the threads you post? ROFL!

#99 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 02:04 PM

Reading a teleprompter surro7nded by staff is not the same thing as standing alone on a stage and having to think on one's feet and speak off the cuff.

#100 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 02:05 PM

Biden actually gained points after the Debate.

It seems Indies don't like Liars.

#101 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 02:07 PM

- surro7nded

Dementia?

#102 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 02:08 PM

"having to think on one's feet and speak off the cuff."

What a riot.

Trump repeats the same 20 lies over and over.

Not exactly the "flex" you're pretending it is.

#103 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-30 02:09 PM

#102

Funny.

My wife tells me it's the way in which I type on my iPad. Apparently if the screen senses any kind of a swipe on the top row of letters it inserts the number shared on that key.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 02:10 PM

www.youtube.com

For you, GracieBelle.

No teleprompter required.

#105 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 02:12 PM

104

Ah.

That's actually called Fat Finger Syndrome.

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 02:13 PM

#103. I'm not saying Trump looked good. He didn't. I'm saying that comparatively he looked far better than Biden.

Further, your "point" in no way addresses what Corky and I were discussing. He was bragging that Biden looked good the next day at a rally. I pointed out that reading off a teleprompter is not remotely akin to being on the debate stage. Do you disagree with that?

#107 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 02:13 PM

" That's actually called Fat Finger Syndrome.
#106 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2024-06-30 02:13 PM | FLAG: "

I'd say that is apropos.

#108 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 02:14 PM

107 still hasn't seen the Rally. I posted the vid in 105.

#109 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 02:15 PM

"having to think on one's feet and speak off the cuff."

Thinking of which old lies to tell, and which new lies to make up.

Now that's leadership!

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 02:29 PM

"#103. I'm not saying Trump looked good. He didn't. I'm saying that comparatively he looked far better than Biden.

Reading off a teleprompter is not the same as being on a debate stage (insert DUH).

However, how is that relevant?

Is that crucial to the "job description"?
Does the President do the job without notes?
Does the President do the job alone without advisers?

Bottom line:
Which person behaved "Presidential"?

#111 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2024-06-30 02:32 PM

OFFS, the debate was bad for biden, no doubt, but I seriously think people are overstating it's potential effect.

Keep in mind that:

------- tried to overthrow the government
------- is a convicted felon
------- made it possible to overturn RvW
------- is an adjudicated fraud
------- is an adjudicated insurrectionist
------- will implement Project 2025
------- will send the military into American cities
------- is an adjudicated rapist
------- stole nuclear secrets
------- is an inveterate liar
------- will impose a 10% tariff
------- will cut the taxes of billionaires
------- will get rid of the ACA
------- will add at least 2 more SC justices
------- will pass a nationwide abortion ban

And so much more.

And none of THAT moved the needle significantly.

It is a statement on the 2 parties. One party has one bad debate and is in panic mode seeking the best chance to save democracy. The other party will not change for ---- when their nominee is singularly unworthy, incapable and just plain sick for the Presidency.

Four months is a long time, tomorrow will come a bastardized SC judgement on immunity, next week ------- will be sentenced for 34 felonies-2 things that SHOULD disqualify the orange ---- goblin.

Yes, the debate was a problem but this thing is FAR from over.

#112 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 02:34 PM

"I'm not saying Trump looked good."

You're ignoring the fact he told over two dozen provable lies.

And that's good enough for you.

#113 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-30 02:53 PM

#113.

Biden told his share of lies as well. The overall performanc3 wasn't even close. Biden looked FAR worse than Trump. And that's good enough for yOU, apparently.

#114 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 04:27 PM

Sure

Because:

#115 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 04:33 PM

- that's good enough for yOU, apparently.

Fatty Fingers, lol.

Biden at least knows how to tell the truth.

Trump doesn't, and couldn't care less.

#116 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-30 04:44 PM

#114

Biden isn't a 34 time felon, sexual predator, grifter or insurrectionist. And he'll hire competent and reasonably honest people to work within his administration. That's good enough to vote for Biden over Trump.

#117 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-06-30 04:45 PM

" #117 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2024-06-30 04:45 PM | FLAG: "

Vote for whomever you want It's your protected right as a US citizen.

#118 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 06:05 PM

That's mighty White of you.

#119 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-30 06:44 PM

Voting is a white thing?

#120 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-30 07:48 PM

Drudge Retort Headlines

SCOTUS Allows Bans on Homeless People Sleeping Outside (64 comments)

Biden: 'When You Get Knocked Down, You Get Back Up' (57 comments)

Biden Addresses Poor Debate Performance (45 comments)

Supreme Court Ruling Will Allow More Aggressive Homeless Crackdowns (30 comments)

Former Trump Adviser Steve Bannon Must Report to Prison by Monday (21 comments)

Why Not Call for the Convicted Felon who Endlessly Lies to Step Down? (15 comments)

What the Numbers Show on the Economy Trump Handed Biden (15 comments)

Workers Respond to Trump's 'Black Jobs' Comment (15 comments)