This Is Post-Roe America

FTA:

*Christina learned her fetus was likely to die. She left Texas to receive care.

*Dr. Betsy Wickstrom is an OB-GYN who works in Missouri.

We're feeling under the microscope about what we can and can't say. But if my water bottle just happens to be sitting on my desk while we are talking, and the patient happens to write the number on the label, then the patient still has the information they needed.

*Dr. Andrea Palmer is an OB-GYN in Texas who has been sterilizing more women since Dobbs.

I just finished doing a laparoscopic salpingectomy on a young woman, 23 years old, who has not had children and desires not to have children. This is one in a string of many sterilizations I've done on young women without children since S.B. 8 passed in Texas and Dobbs passed at the level of the Supreme Court. I've had so many patients who don't think that they want children, but ultimately are so scared about the lack of reproductive access that they would rather remove the option than have to deal with an unintended pregnancy.

*Dr. Kristl Tomlin was one of a few pediatric gynecologists in South Carolina willing to provide abortions.

I've had police threaten to come to my home, and I've had police call my phone and threaten me. I've had my daughter look up in my eyes and say, "Mommy, are they going to arrest you?"

*Elevated Access is a collective of volunteer pilots who fly women to their abortion appointments.

What's happened with Dobbs now is that people just have to travel that much farther. "We have a pregnant 9-year-old that needs help." Hearing those words, it's like, this is hell.

*Destini Spaeth is a volunteer for the Prairie Abortion Fund in North Dakota, where she helps women figure out everything from insurance to gas money.

I answer emails in the middle of the night. I give callers my cellphone number so that they can text me if they have any questions. I shouldn't need to do this. I shouldn't need to be fielding 17 emails on a lunch break. I dream of a time when this isn't required.

These stories are simply chilling. When The Handmaid's Tale started its TV run in 2017 I never imagined 5 years later a radical Supreme Court would do something during a ruling that the plaintiffs themselves didn't ask for: overturn Roe v. Wade.

We watched every single Federalist Society SCOTUS nominee sitting before the Senate Judiciary committee all assent that they were faithful adherents to precedence and the belief in stare decisis as a bedrock principle of jurisprudence. And each of them showed how faithless those promises were, even when given to a GOP Senator like Susan Collins.

The stories recounted above never should have to be told in 2024 coming from the world's alleged leader in liberty and justice for all. Yet they continue as so few seem to even be concerned with how many lives are turned upside down as thousands of women face a frightening new reality that many of their mothers and grandmothers never had to.

So you admit the information on ED prescriptions exists in multiple databases. Thanks for proving my point that it is tracked. Tracked and stored by the doctor, the insurance company and the pharmacy. Of course it would be INCONCEIVABLE that a government entity would be able pierce the impenetrable wall of HIPPA restrictions. #INCONCEIVABLE

#26 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

I admit nothing of the sort.
...

It is NOT TRACKED.

Not without a warrant.

The government can access any database. With a warrant. They can access your browser history. With a warrant. They can access which books you read. With a warrant. They can anccess what you say in your kitchen. But. Only with a warrant.

(And a President that respects the law, of course)

Your HIPPA data is still only between you and your doctor (and your insurance company). By law.

Posted by visitor_

Cesspool resident serves no useful purpose.

Not getting into whether the government follows its own rules (it doesn't). A warrant can't provide the government LEGAL access a database that doesn't exist. The fact that a database exists means the information is being tracked. So thanks again for proving my point.

Not getting into whether the government follows its own rules (it doesn't).

If you do decide to go down that maga conspiracy rabbit hole let me know so I can get my tin foil hat out.

The fact that a database exists means the information is being tracked. So thanks again for proving my point.

#35 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Thanks for proving what you are. A no nothing conspiratorial anti gubmint lunatic.

Is the ebil gubmint putting nanochips in your vaccines track you and floride in your water to steal your essential juices too?

To be tracked the data has to be extracted and put into another database and analyzed. That would be illegal. So it could only be done under a convicted felon and lawless executive like Humpy Trumpy.

Your definition of 'tracking' is different than mine and everybody else.

. The fact that a database exists means the information is being tracked. So thanks again for proving my point.

#35 | Posted by visitor_

Your original point was that abortion's weren't tracked in MN.

Here is YOUR post:

"Don't ask how often viable babies are aborted, Tim Walz put rules in place to not track them.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ "

Most abortions are performed through prescriptions.

Not only are you ignorant, you are also stupid.

It is hilarious how much your ass is being kicked in this thread.

The prescription drug tracking thread is referring to your comment about ED drugs. It would be trivial to determine if a named individual has a prescription. So wipe the egg from your face and try to catch up.

You might want to look up whether late term abortions are performed through prescription drugs.

Tim Walz has made it impossible to gather the statistics on the frequency of occurrence and reason for late term abortions.

"Don't ask how often viable babies are aborted, Tim Walz put rules in place to not track them."

#5 | Posted by visitor_

What kind of f*cked-up world does visitor_ live in?

He actually believes that a woman would carry a wanted child for 6, 7, 8, even 9 months, and then callously decides to abort said wanted child, because just exactly why?

The reason is that visitor_ and his ilk think that women are just too stupid to leave health care, including the decision to abort a child, in the hands of the people who actually know what's going on: the woman and her health care provider.

So, visitor_ and his ilk believe that they know what's best for women they will never meet and never know, and therefore want the government in the same room as the woman and her health care provider because they can't be there themselves.

That's the kind of f*cked-up world visitor_ and his ilk live in.

Oh, and Happy Anniversary!

You might want to look up whether late term abortions are performed through prescription drugs.

Tim Walz has made it impossible to gather the statistics on the frequency of occurrence and reason for late term abortions.

#39 | Posted by visitor_

I'll just put this link here for you

www.health.state.mn.us

The Minnesota government's abortion tracking system.

From the Minnesota's Dept. of Health's Abortion Tracking system

As an example:

From 1/1/21 through 12/31/21

Of the 10,000 or so abortions performed in MN.
exactly 0 occurred after 30 weeks
exactly 1 occurred from 25 to 30 weeks
exactly 159 occurred from 21 to 24 weeks

a fetus becomes viable between 23 and 24 weeks.

For what it's worth.

at the most 1.5% of abortions occurred after theoretical or even possible viability.

Reasons given for abortion examples

of the 10,000 or so abortions

Physical health at stake 543
Impairment of major bodily function 29
Fetal anomalies 193 (funny how that tracks pretty close to the later term abortions)

I think abortion needs to be legal during the first trimester. After that only in rare instances where the health of the mother is in jeopardy.

Having said that it is absolutely barbaric. And it disgusts me the degree to which some on the left absolutely celebrate it.

You're out of touch with the mainstream on this and its going to cost you the election.

BTW there are no more trimesters. Roe v Wade is GONE.

that is how it was under rvw you dumfuq

I think abortion needs to be legal during the first trimester. After that only in rare instances where the health of the mother is in jeopardy.

Having said that it is absolutely barbaric. And it disgusts me the degree to which some on the left absolutely celebrate it.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-20 01:14 PM | Reply

It's none of your business period full stop Jeff. None at all.

or close enough to not matter as it was a reasonable compromise.

"I think abortion needs to be legal during the first trimester. -

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-20 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag: JeffJ's permission slip

"And it disgusts me the degree to which some on the left absolutely celebrate it."

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-20 01:14 PM

The "left" only celebrates the fact that we trust women with their own, personal health care.

You want to know what's really disgusting?

The right's celebration of having the government in the exam room with the woman and her health care provider.

That's disgusting.

Oh, and I'm still awaiting word on this book, JeffJ