I don't think Biden meant all Trump supporters are garbage. I think he meant the one(s) who spoke at the MSG rally on Sunday are garbage:

White House spokesman Andrew Bates said Biden "referred to the hateful rhetoric at the Madison Square Garden rally as garbage.'"

Biden then took to social media to personally clarify what he said.

"Earlier today I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump's supporter at his Madison Square Garden rally as garbage--which is the only word I can think of to describe it," he posted on X. "His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable. That's all I meant to say. The comments at that rally don't reflect who we are as a nation."

Gal, you might have to convince ClownBeater otherwise.
Good luck with that.
#6 | Posted by oneironaut

I doubt I'll be able to convince anyone of anything:

Nearly half of US voters see opposing political party as 'downright evil': Polls

A survey conducted by the SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University found that while 75% of Republicans who believe that Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate, won the 2020 election, view Democrats as "downright evil", fewer than half of Democrats share this view of Republicans.

Trump supporters are garbage.
Prove me wrong.
#11 | Posted by ClownShack

I do think some of them are the deplorables Hillary described them to be. There were a lot of deplorables who stormed the Capitol on 1/6, and judging from the speeches and the cheers in response to those speeches, there where a lot of deplorables at MSG on Sunday.

I don't think all Republicans are garbage. The ones whe are no longer voting for him are not garbage. I don't think all Trump supporters are garbage either, but I do think a certain percentage of them are the deplorables Hillary Clinton described as I explained above.

#16 Ahh, TY, Lamp. The was a really nice thing to say.

How Bernie Sanders described the rally at MSG: "Extreme vulgar sexism and racism." He says that around the 4:30 minute mark in this video:

WH transcript shows Joe Biden called Tony Hinchcliffe "garbage" language:

And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Well, let me tell you something. I don't-- I--I don't know the Puerto Rican that--that I know--or a Puerto Rico, where I'm fr--in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's--his--his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-American. It's totally contrary to everything we've done, everything we've been.

The story is a nonstarter because Biden didn't say what Trump and his MAGA followers are claiming hie said. It's also a nonstarter because Trump and his MAGA followers have been saying Democrats are evil, sick, lunatics, etc. for months now and as recently as the MSG rally on Sunday.

Having contempt for the citizens should be a disqualifier. One cannot lead a country if you hold contempt for citizens.
#32 | Posted by Robson

So true, which is why Trump must never be president again. Anyone who would withhold disaster relief funds from blue states until his staff showed him there were a lot of his voters in the affected area is unfit to be president of this nation.

I watched the video. I read the transcript. He was referring to the comedian who made the joke, not all Trump supporters.

And here's the good news, if you don't understand grammar and think Biden insulted all of Trump's voters, you don't have to vote for him. He's not on the ballot.

As far as I know the transcript wasn't altered. An apostrohe was in the transcript that most people didn't understand was there:

The full Biden quote from the Zoom tonight, which is being taken out of context:

If you are reading this as saying all of Trump's supporters are demonizing Latinos, then that's on you, but that doesn't make much sense because some of Trump's supporters are Latinos. However, if all Trump supporters are in fact demonizing Latinos, then I think the case can be made that they are garbage:

And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Well, let me tell you something. I don't-- I--I don't know the Puerto Rican that--that I know--or a Puerto Rico, where I'm fr--in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's--his--his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-American. It's totally contrary to everything we've done, everything we've been.

"Supporters, versus supporter's

Exactly because if you read it as supporters then it read like this, which makes no sense grammatically:

And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Well, let me tell you something. I don't-- I--I don't know the Puerto Rican that--that I know--or a Puerto Rico, where I'm fr--in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters--his--his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-American. It's totally contrary to everything we've done, everything we've been.

If you do want to pretend Biden was talking about all Trump supporters, then Trump is the one who is demonizing Latinos and, althoughtit makes no sense grammatically, his supporters are garbage because they are on board with it. If Biden had meant all of Trump's supporters, he would have said:

And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Well, let me tell you something. I don't-- I--I don't know the Puerto Rican that--that I know--or a Puerto Rico, where I'm fr--in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters--their--their demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it's un-American. It's totally contrary to everything we've done, everything we've been.

Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
One of those cases where it's clear what Biden said and the only question is how much MSM journalists will allow Trumpers to lie about it. Nothingburger. "demonization" coming after supporters makes no sense unless it's the supporters demonization. Again, Trump's closing on denying being Hitler. They'll do anything to change the story.

2/ Talking to reporters about this, basically none of them can credibly say they think that's what Biden said so they pivot to but Republicans are already fundraising off of it. This is really the heart of the current media moment.

Politics I can rationally discuss and enjoy dealing with, but I really can't stomach manipulators, blatant liars, schemers and just a general acceptance of lack of ethics.

The White House purposely and illegally tried to cover up the transcript of what Biden said which was utter hate and contempt for 50% of America. We heard it for ourself. The Dems just spent days harping on what some unknown comedian said about a known factual condition in Puerto Rico that needs fixed.
#52 | Posted by Robson

I'll say it again: if half the country supports demonizing Latinos, then they are the haters and they are garbage. That's not what Biden said, but, hey, if you are cool with all Trump supporters demonizing Latinos, that's on you.

#87 | Posted by tonyroma

Precisedly, Tony. I explained the exact same thing in posts my #48 & #50 above.

Trump supporters are very invested in misreading Biden's comment because they hope it will turn some people against Harris as they believe Hillary's deplorable comments turned some undecided voters against her. First of all, Harris isn't Biden. Second of all, Hillary was right: a certain portion of MAGA voters are delplorables.

I told the story the other day about the Harris/Walz signs at the entrance of my neighborhood. Well, today all of those signs are gone. In fact all of the signs supporting Democrats are gone. Only the 3 Trump/Vance signs and the other Republican candidates' signs remain. That leads me to conclude that some Trump supporter either stole the Democratic signs or they damaged them so much that some Democrat(s) in the neighborhood took them down. IMO, the Trump supporter(s) who did that are deplorables.

This was from this morning's Nooner, along with my retort:
#78 | Posted by Hans

"Your going to get a talking to from Gracie the hall monitor." -
#80 | Posted by REDIAL

Hans, you weren't here when RCade said that what happens in the Nooner should stay in the Nooner. I don't know if that's a hard and fast rule or just guideline to be considered.

"In this case, without my identifying it as such, it could have been a post from any thread, Nooner or other."

Yes, I think what you posted is fine. I've reposted my own posts from the Nooner that didn't directly reference other people's posts. I'm pretty sure that's okay.

Its jeff at least half the time. Hes still obsessed with Bork.
#101 | Posted by Alexandrite

And Kavanaugh.