Democrats Grapple with Plunge in Latino Support

Thursday, November 07, 2024

"Why are we losing these people? Why are we losing firefighters? Why are we losing cops? Why are we losing blue collar working men? ... Because we're very consistent in our messaging away from them -- away from their traditional family values, away from their personal economic concerns and their family's economic concerns," said Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes, the highest-ranking Latino elected official in this heavily Latino state. "And that is a hard political pill for Democrats to swallow."

Posted by retort at 08:01 PM | 83 COMMENTS | permalink

Though Harris greatly improved her standing from where President Joe Biden was with Latinos before he dropped out of the race, the vice president notched just 52 percent support among Latinos, according to exit polls. Biden in 2020 earned 61 percent of Latinos' support, Hillary Clinton carried 66 percent in 2016 and Barack Obama won more than 70 percent in 2012.

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Yeah, whatever.

Ain't nothin' can be done 'bout folks who wanna believe lies.

Don't matter where they're from.

#1 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-11-07 08:27 PM

Nothing new, and nothing was done. It won't be long before a pile of those 75,000,000 voters realize they really screwed the pooch.

#2 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2024-11-07 09:04 PM

"Why are we losing these people?"

I feel like if I answer this correctly, I'll face negative consequences.

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-07 09:05 PM

Here's hoping each and every latino who voted for ------- has a loved one deported to Venezuela, whether their Venezuelan or not.

Nothin better than separating 5 year olds from their parents.

Making orphans great again.

------ magat scum

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-07 09:13 PM

Why are we losing these people? Because they are stupid or evil

Why are we losing firefighters? Because they are stupid or evil

Why are we losing cops? Because they are stupid or evil

Why are we losing blue collar working men? Because they are stupid or evil

The problem is not with the democratic party, it's candidates, it's messaging, it's policies.

the problem is with stupid and evil people who vote for a rapist.

the problem is with stupid and evil people who vote for a felon

the problem is with stupid and evil people who vote for a conman

the problem is with stupid and evil people who vote for a thief

the problem is with stupid and evil people who vote for a corrupt piece of ----

Let them eat the ashes of their consequences, ---- all magat scum

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-07 09:16 PM

has a loved one deported to Venezuela

What happens if Venezuela doesn't want them?

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-07 09:18 PM

And to preempt all the -------- who are going to criticize me for "oh that's great insult them! that is a horrible way to get them to vote for us!

I say ---- em. They are scum, they are evil or stupid. They are not deserving of respect, only contempt.

They will come crawling on their hands and knees begging for a democrat to save them from YET ANOTHER republican economic collapse, war or --------.

Let the rapist ---- your wives and daughters, empty your savings account to buy his ------ shoes, give up your healthcare to make Elon Musk richer.

You deserve the ---- that is coming for you.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-07 09:19 PM

has a loved one deported to Venezuela

What happens if Venezuela doesn't want them?

#6 | Posted by REDIAL

Sux for them, dump in the sea I suppose, let em swim ashore.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-07 09:19 PM

Sux for them, dump in the sea I suppose

Hehe... an option I suppose. I just wonder if you are going to deport 10+ million people where do you send them?

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-07 09:27 PM

What happens if Venezuela doesn't want them?

#6 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-11-07 09:18 PM

They can go fight in Ukraine or pick blueberries in southern Europe

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-07 09:29 PM

They can go fight in Ukraine

What if Putin doesn't want them either?

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-07 09:39 PM

#7 You should've posted more on the nooner, setting examples for the posters on the right. You just shake that ad money maker son.

#12 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-11-07 10:05 PM

#7 You should've posted more on the nooner, setting examples for the posters on the right. You just shake that ad money maker son.

#12 | Posted by gracieamazed

oooooh that smell, don't you smell that smell?

it's the incredible golden graciebefuddled...

yay! K***** you are a hoot :)

#13 | Posted by billy_boy at 2024-11-07 10:09 PM

Those Latinos must be racists....

#14 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-11-07 10:44 PM

Speaking of stupid magats

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-07 10:48 PM

#5 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I hope your anger makes you feel better.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-08 12:12 AM

Native Americans 64% for Trump, what the hell is going on.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-08 12:20 AM

Anywhere else remember how they hated it when liberals tried to call them latinx? Yeah that's the first hint as to what you people fail to notice.

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2024-11-08 01:17 AM

Why won't the stupid deplorable garbage Nazis vote the way you want? You have learned nothing.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-08 01:37 AM

Theyre low information voters drowning in a right wing dominated misinformation news cycle of cable news and podcasts.

#20 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-08 01:54 AM

Exactly. It wasn't the Democrat message or messenger, it was the people. Democrats don't need to reflect and change. The rest of the country needs to get it's mind right. Learn nothing. Change nothing.

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-08 02:03 AM

#5 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I hope your anger makes you feel better.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut a

Nope, not at all.

Feel like ---- actually

Worrying about my children's futures.

One silver lining I see though, is that magat scum like you will be hurt far more than me and mine when the inevitable ----ler devastation occurs.

That is one consistent thing in my life-republicans destroy ----, democrats come in to fix them (see bush-clinton, bush-obama, ----ler=biden).

I just hope next time the democratic president just --- over the red areas of this country-unlike what biden did

But you magat scum enjoy losing your jobs, catching polio or whatever, paying 3x for food and mourning the women in your life who die needlessly-me and mine will be ok

I will be here pointing and laughing at you.

Elon Musk said you need to suffer (he'll be in charge of your suffering), so enjoy it magat scum

I will laugh at you like I did when W invaded Iraq, like I did when W crashed the economy, like I did when ----ler let you die from covid, like I did when ----ler crashed the economy, like when ----ler tried to overthrow the government

Point and laugh at the magat scum

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 06:53 AM

I, unlike some, will not wish bad things on misinformed people.
I will say, however, buckle up Latinos, you have no idea what
you just voted for...(and likely most of them don't) due to the
proliferation of disinformation.

#23 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-11-08 06:54 AM

Why though?

they chose evil

There is simply no excuse

Full Stop

Not for the number of people who voted for him.

People KNOW who ------- is.

They will and should get exactly what they deserve.

Latinos will see friends and family put in cages.

Latinos will see friends and family booted from the country.

Latinos will see friends and family shove out and into countries that they never lived in.

Oh well, that is exactly what you voted for.

I am sick and tired of playing nice with people who think ------- won't do what ------- says he will do

they are now just magat scum

bye bye healthcare
bye bye social security
bye bye vaccines
bye bye abortion
bye bye many many friends and family

yep, you really showed us, the normal human being who was part of the administration who fixed the ------- mess to create the economy that is the envy of hte world was not worthy because 2 trans prisoners got healthcare

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 07:09 AM

oh and btw, don't like being called magat scum? Don't like the vitriol going your way?

Who ------- cares, this is political discourse now.

---- you, ---- your mamas, ---- your kids

---- you

magat scum

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 07:14 AM

who think ------- won't do what ------- says he will do

He might not; he is both lazy and incompetent. And he has no actual reason for actually doing any of that stuff.

That said, his handlers will be just chomping at the bit to get on with it.

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-08 07:24 AM

Theyre low information voters drowning in a right wing dominated misinformation news cycle of cable news and podcasts.
#20 | Posted by Alexandrite
Exactly. It wasn't the Democrat message or messenger, it was the people. Democrats don't need to reflect and change. The rest of the country needs to get it's mind right. Learn nothing. Change nothing.
#21 | Posted by visitor_

What I'm waiting to see is if the Republicans have learned anything, or if they are gonna do what they always do after a victory: massively overplay their hand. Trump and the Republicans' most extreme policies are not popular with the American people, and once those policies begin rolling out, the American people will see and feel those effects firsthand in their own lives and will not be pleased. The only question that remains, however, is if people will be able to express their displeasure through peaceful protests and through free and fair elections? My greatest fear has always been that the Republican-installed autocracy will not allow for that and so peole will not be able to recognize their mistake and course correct. The loss of one election, while disappointing, is not the end of America as we know it. The loss of democracy is. Big, big picture, that is what has been at stake in this election.

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot.
-Joni Mitchell

New generations can write new verses to that song. The only question is: will they have the freedom to sing them?

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-08 07:31 AM

Apparently what the Latinos wanted was a rapist. Look at who they voted for. And no one can convince me jd Vance hasn't roofied a sorority girl or 2.

Unfortunately since bill Clinton can't run our rapist bench is pretty slim

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 07:52 AM

#28 the only 'LITTLE GIRL" he'd roofie is you.

#29 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-08 08:02 AM

---- off magat scum

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 08:27 AM

Here's hoping your daughter has an ectopic pregnancy. I am sure she will be fine

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 08:28 AM

#30
Your Mom should wash your mouth out with soap.

#32 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-08 08:31 AM

#31
Your daughter will never get pregnant cause she spits.

#33 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-08 08:35 AM

May you experience everything you voted for magat scum

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 09:00 AM

I hope your Mom hid all the sharp objects in her house. You need help. Trust me it will get better once you accept reality.

#35 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-08 09:13 AM

Catholics have conservative family values. Most people from south of the border are Catholics. It ain't that difficult to figure why they would vote for conservatives.

#36 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-11-08 09:40 AM

And magat scum reality is gonna -- up the ass. Probably within 12 months

But you'll find a way to blame the 2 trans prisoners who got healthcare and not the ------- tariffs

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 09:45 AM

I am honestly curious as to what Latinos think of the mass deportation plan.

Do they think they will be immune? Do they think birthright citizenship will protect the undocumented parents?

This is one of the most baffling things about this election

------- has said he will deport 10s of millions

Who the ---- do they think that will be

I passed 2 Hispanic men this morning at Wawa. They looked like painters
That is who will be deported-legal, citizen or not

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 09:51 AM

Btw this article is ---------- makes zero mention of mass deportation

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 09:53 AM

I've always thought that the threat of tough immigration and deportation talk is always magnified for the purposes of scaring Latinos into voting a certain way.

It's all an effort to herd them in a pre-determined direction.

And the democratic party has been doing this for years and years.

and this isn't the first time they've scratched their heads after an election amazed Latinos won't run to the democratic party.

What do Latinos want?

I know what Twoothy wants them to want.......

but what do THEY want?

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-08 09:57 AM

I just listened to an interview of a latino family and their son. The adult son didn't like Trump at first, but he grew to like him because "He (Trump) says what he thinks and doesn't care" and the son "respect him for that."

The Mom and Dad said they came here "illegally" but they aren't like the new ones coming. They were good people. Like all the friends and people they know that are also Latino that are around them. "Trump will get rid of those bad ones" (paraphrased, but close).

The Mom and Dad were granted amnesty under Reagan and are now "legal."

I just kept shaking my head as I heard their words.

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-08 10:11 AM

-I just kept shaking my head as I heard their words.

what are you shaking your head at?

What don't you understand about what you heard from them?

This is a perfect example of why you're so confused and frustrated about this, BTW.

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-08 10:15 AM

what are you shaking your head at?

One thing is for certain.

If Trump does start a domestic war to deport millions of immigrants.

This kids parents could be amongst them.

Maybe they think Trump will spare them because they voted for him.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-08 10:23 AM

-This kids parents could be amongst them.

Yes, you're telling people how to feel and what to fear.

That's never a good idea.

Never

It's a 100% waste of energy

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-08 10:27 AM

The Mom and Dad were granted amnesty under Reagan and are now "legal."

I just kept shaking my head as I heard their words.

Posted by YAV at 2024-11-08 10:11 AM | Reply

Translation: They got theirs. Screw the up incoming.

#45 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-08 10:40 AM

Migrants are cannibalizing themselves. Yes, they take jobs Americans don't want. But guess what, those jobs aren't infinite. There is only a certain demand for them. So one group comes in, gets those jobs, and live well in America, and start getting more for their skills. Then the next group comes in, takes those jobs the first group got for less money, and then the cycle starts over. So, it only stands to reason those losing their jobs due to new migrants are going to start understanding the plight so many Americans are talking about that liberals seem to just want to ignore. There are only so many jobs. There are only so many affordable houses. There are only so many amenities available. As new migrants take those jobs, migrants that have been here longer are hurting.

#46 | Posted by humtake at 2024-11-08 11:35 AM

Migrants are cannibalizing themselves.

I thought immigrants were coming in to rape and pillage magat scum

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 11:40 AM

What don't you understand about what you heard from them?

That they are "othering" people just like them.
That they bought into the lie about immigrants bringing all this crime.
That the son completely threw out everything he said he disliked about Trump's policies and decided Trump deserved his vote because Trump was unapologetic about everything the son said he disliked about Trump's policies.
Shortened version: The son said "Trump's policies I can't stand, but damn! That man is unapologetic, so I'll vote for him!"
He might as well have Beta Cuck proudly tattooed on his forehead.

#48 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-08 12:18 PM

-That they are "othering" people just like them.

You're trying to get them to self-identify exactly as YOU want them to self-identify.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-08 12:42 PM

large population of the Latino communities are Catholic and the Left has made it very clear that Abortion has been their #1 issue for the last 2 years

that turned them off!

#50 | Posted by Maverick at 2024-11-08 01:10 PM

Let me summarize the comments here:

"It's the brown peoples fault they're stupid to vote for what's best for them."

If you can't figure out why that's a problem, you are the problem.

#51 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-08 01:12 PM

Hey magat scum please explain to me why I shouldn't hold a latino person accountable for voting for a rapist.

#52 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 01:14 PM

My bellwether moment of knowing we're definitely going to lose, when people took Tony Hinchliffe jokes seriously. The desperation was extreme.

#53 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-08 01:14 PM

large population of the Latino communities are Catholic and the Left has made it very clear that Abortion has been their #1 issue for the last 2 years

that turned them off!

#50 | Posted by Maverick

Hey magat scum, explain to me the logic of voting for someone who will deport their family members.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 01:15 PM

My bellwether moment of knowing we're definitely going to lose, when people took Tony Hinchliffe jokes seriously. The desperation was extreme.

#53 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Yep, a presidential candidate miming a ------- in front of children, no big deal. Right, magat scum?

#55 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 01:16 PM

explain to me the logic of voting for someone who will deport their family members.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just because you are hispanic doesn't mean you have family members that will be deported.

You're summarizing what NBC, CNN, etc, pundits could not understand. You're not talking to immigrants about immigration, you're talking to Americans about immigration that happen to have brown skin.

#56 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-08 01:47 PM

Relying on the PRs over the Tony joke, even more absurd. The Puerto Ricans I grew up with, kids from Florida, New York, none of them ever went to PR, they don't know anybody there and more than half of them can't even speak spanish, it wasn't in their home growing up.

Wrong audience to woo with look at how much they hate you themes.

#57 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-08 01:49 PM

-explain to me the logic of voting for someone who will deport their family members.

they don't like them?

I can think of some family members I would have gladly deported if it were possible.........

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-08 01:52 PM

Yes, you're telling people how to feel and what to fear.

That's never a good idea.

Never

It's a 100% waste of energy

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-08 10:27 AM | Reply

It's the entire Democrat platform these days.

#59 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-08 06:08 PM

t's the entire Democrat platform these days.

#59 | Posted by lfthndthrd

What is the magat scum platform these days? Tariffs, kicking out hispanics and sucking off -------?

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 06:36 PM

BTW where are you on the que to suck off -------, magat scum lefthandedhit? Did you push to the front to get prime syphilitic sore juice?

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 06:44 PM

It's spelled "queue".

You need a Xanax, Squirts?

#62 | Posted by Phir_Milengus at 2024-11-08 06:46 PM

---- off magat scum

Magat scum sock puppet Ms get olonked

#63 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 06:47 PM

via GIPHY

#64 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-08 06:51 PM

,i>Native Americans 64% for Trump, what the hell is going on.
#17 | Posted by oneironaut

He cheated.

#65 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-08 06:55 PM

,i>Native Americans 64% for Trump, what the hell is going on.
#17 | Posted by oneironaut

He cheated.

#65 | Posted by TFDNihilist

JFC definitely seems so

#66 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 07:08 PM

Everything about Democrats and Harris and Biden and their media was eventually seen as BS and a total fabrication instead of reality.

Interesting how a billionaire like Oprah was paid a million dollars from campaign coffers and from little people contributions as were mega dollars from other wealthy entertainers. None of these people actually supported Democrats enough to donate effort but they wanted paid big dollars from you little folks. F the Dems. They will pay for their theft of donations and trickster-ism for decades.

#67 | Posted by Robson at 2024-11-08 08:50 PM

watching Truth absolutely f'n implode is beyond precious

#68 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-11-08 10:37 PM

Has anyone done a wellness check on Tony?

#69 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-11-08 10:50 PM

@#67 ... Everything about Democrats and Harris and Biden and their media was eventually seen as BS and a total fabrication instead of reality. ...

You AI bot may want to request new data to draw its opinions from.

Jus' sayin'.

#70 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-08 10:57 PM

watching Truth absolutely f'n implode is beyond precious

#68 | Posted by kwrx25

---- you magat scum. I will be here when ------- implodes your world and I will point and laugh at you.

I am sure you can name 5 factual things ------- is going to do for you, magat scum.

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-08 11:02 PM

you know lashing out at everyone who isn't a far left nutjob like you isn't a winning strategy... See recent election.

You can call me magat scum all you want, didn't vote for him. I just don't have head up my own ass so far that I'm unable to look around and assess what the DNC did wrong.

But go on with your losing strategy. It's hilarious to watch

#72 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-11-08 11:13 PM

I am sure you can name 5 factual things ------- is going to do for you

I mean, putting aside the fact that suddenly we're not kowtowing to a Globo-Marxist, Judeo-Technocrat Reset Agenda, the most significant thing he's doing already on Election Day +3 is providing sheer entertainment from the various online meltdowns of people like yourself.

It's absolutely glorious to behold. Extremely entertaining.

#73 | Posted by Phir_Milengus at 2024-11-08 11:20 PM

So I guess I got 4 left?

#74 | Posted by Phir_Milengus at 2024-11-08 11:21 PM

@#72 ... you know lashing out at everyone who isn't a far left nutjob like you isn't a winning strategy... ...

I don't see that appellation in the comment you seem to be replying to.

... You can call me magat scum all you want, didn't vote for him. ...

I have to wonder ... how many people who have voted for Pres-elect Trump will now try to assert they did not vote for him?

That aside.

In my view, it is not about who you care to admit to voting for or not voting for.

It is about the comments you post.

That said, why do you apparently want to divert the topic of discussion from what has been queried of you?

#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-08 11:22 PM

@#73

An apparently resurrected alias.

#76 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-08 11:25 PM

You're trying to get them to self-identify exactly as YOU want them to self-identify.

I'm just pointing out they're self-identifying as "not them" any longer, but to Trump and everyone else they still are "them."
Just like 85% of Cubans here (Florida) identify as "White" not "Hispanic." The KKK didn't see them that way. Nor were they allowed to marry "across the races."

But hey, they genuinely believe they aren't them and they're above those "others."

Guess we'll all find out if they are or aren't in 2024 under Trumplican Rules.

BTW - if you want, the history of South Africa and how "colored people" were created and why is fascinating. If you want to make it a fun education, get Trevor Noah's book "Born a Crime" and read that. Seriously. Not a great book, but an entertaining one and educational on race and power. Highly recommend.

#77 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-09 09:14 AM

the bulwark commented yesterday on an Atlantic (I think) article about some undocumented immigrants who were in US custody. The immigrants said they would have voted for ------- if they could vote. The said, basically, that ------- wouldn't deport THEM.

It's like reality doesn't matter.

How does one deal with such nihilism?

#78 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-09 10:35 AM

"It is about the comments you post."

do enlighten me...

So far my basic stance is that Trump is a horrible candidate, but the far left was to wrapped up in appeasing the extremes of their party that they fumbled what should have been a cake walk re-election.

Kamala lost because she was despite rising to VP an unknown entity and at every opportunity to show who she would be as president she failed to do so. This further distanced her from connecting with voters.

Please explain now how that makes someone a MAGAT?

"how many people who have voted for Pres-elect Trump will now try to assert they did not vote for him?"

Go look at the receipts... I posted multiple times here that I live in MA, and it was going for Harris. I hate both candidates, and my vote was going to a third party in my own private protest of not voting for either. Usually it's a throw away, but there are multiple posts discussing just how did Harris get so many less votes than Biden did four years ago. The wake up call to both parties I'm trying to send actually started to resonate a bit. Imagine now if more people did the same thing? After this election one of the major parties is being asked, why did you lose voters... If only both parties had to be doing the same thing.

If you look back at my posts you'll see that's been the common thread... the parties are out of touch with the majority of the country and beholden to extreme bases.

"why do you apparently want to divert the topic of discussion from what has been queried of you?"

There was no real discussion directed at me... Truth is just slinging insults, and asked what Trump is going to do for me...

1. this thread is about the DNC being introspective about the plunge in Latino numbers, so it's a deflection not a question.

2. I don't need to list what he'll do for me, I didn't want him, didn't vote for him.

So in a debate about why the DNC should be looking inward at why they didn't connect with various parts of the voting public I was the one staying on topic.

#79 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-11-09 11:00 AM

It won't be long before a pile of those 75,000,000 voters realize they really screwed the pooch.

#2 | Posted by Yodagirl

We can hope. But it's hard to overcome such ignorance and bigotry.

#80 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-11-09 05:45 PM

A woman (interviewed) here from the Dominican Republic (immigrated years ago) voted for Biden last time, voted for Trump this time. She said Trump is uniting "religion with government and that is what we need!"

Yay for us.

#81 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-10 09:32 AM

So, how are you doing, Yav?

You seem pretty calm. I hope that's a good thing.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-10 09:34 AM

Yay for us.

Posted by YAV at 2024-11-10 09:32 AM | Reply

Stupid people suck. If she wants a theocracy move to Iran.

#83 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-10 11:08 AM

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