Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski are restarting communications with President-elect Donald Trump.
Understandable, but very Neville Chamberlain.
Latest news says that Comcast is Selling MSNBC, so sure, Morning Joe is looking to bend a knee, kiss a ring, whatever...I suspect screw the democrats comes next, but hope I am wrong.www.stvincenttimes.com's%20Oxygen.
It actually isn't, but when all things are amped up to 11 on a knob that tops out at 10, ANY kind of simple civility is deemed horrible.
#10 | Posted by BellRinger
Their visit to King DonOLd aka Herr Fuhrer wasn't about civility or low ratings. They are scared -------- that they are on Trump's enemy list:
Morning Joe' meeting with Trump was driven by fears of retribution from incoming administration, sources say
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@#40
What Free Speech? Trump Ramps Up Threats To Sue Publishers Over Their Speech
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... We just warned folks that Donald Trump would be one of the most anti-free speech Presidents in history, and he seems to have no qualms living down to that reputation.
Donald Trump's history of frivolous lawsuits against media outlets shows his disdain for free speech, and he shows no signs of stopping. The Columbia Journalism Review has an article exploring a bunch of other legal threats Trump and those around him have been flinging at news and book publishers over their speech. ...
[as the norm for that site, lots of links in that article]
From Morning Joe transcript:
Okay. So here's where we are. Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply dismayed by several of President-elect Trump's cabinet elections, and they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the opportunity to speak with the president elect himself on Friday. We were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe and I went to Mar-a-Lago, to meet personally with President elect Trump. It was the first time we have seen him in seven yearsapp.podscribe.ai
Now. e talked about a lot of issues including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets. We talked about that a good bit and it's gonna come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year or over the past decade that we didn't see eye to eye on a lot of issues. And we told him. So
What we did agree on was to restart communications. My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to President Trump since March of 2020, other than a personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting, president Trump was tearful. He was upbeat, he seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would go speak to the President-elect during such fraught times, especially between us.
Also from the transcript:
And I think that's very important. And I think it's also obviously very important. There are a lot of people that are very scared by the selection of his attorney general selection. . . .Joe and Mika are probably especially scared at Trump's nomination of Matt Gaetz to AG because Gaets is the one who gave Trump the false story about Joe being a murder which Trump then tweeted about and which led to Joe and Mika cutting off all contact with Trump because he refused to stop spreadng the false allegations:
But we spoke at length just about what Jonathan said. A lot of people are scared right now. They're scared about the threats of political retribution. They're scared about the threats of, of retribution against media people. They're scared that some potential picks have actually said they are going to arrest members of the media or go after them civilly. All that does is make people martyrs. And that's something that we said You know, you go after your political opponents, you turn 'em into martyrs, you make 'em the next president of the United States. So again, a lot of people are scared, a lot of people are nervous.
Morning Joe Hosts to 'Restart Communications' with Donald Trump After Revealing They Visited the President-Elect
'Morning Joe' hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski have had fraught histories with Trump, who previously falsely accused Scarborough of murder
In May 2020, Trump even accused Scarborough of being a murderer " implying on X that the former member of the House of Representatives in Florida was to blame for the 2001 accidental death of one of his congressional aides, Lori Klausutis. This prompted the news host to pause his live show and ask Trump to stop watching "for the sake of America" and himself.
"When will they open a Cold Case on the Psycho Joe Scarborough matter in Florida. Did he get away with murder? Some people think so," Trump wrote on social media. "Why did he leave Congress so quietly and quickly? Isn't it obvious? What's happening now? A total nut job!"
And here is Matt Gaetz's contribution to the "Joe Scarborough is a murder story"
"The View" star confronted 'scary person' Matt Gaetz at White House, says he gave Donald Trump docs accusing MSNBC host of murderwww.yahoo.com
Alyssa Farah Griffin says she urged Gaetz not to present Trump with the "printed out conspiracy theories" about Joe Scarborough.
The View cohost and former Donald Trump staffer Alyssa Farah Griffin revealed that she once confronted the president-elect's attorney general pick, controversial politician Matt Gaetz, about a conspiracy theory she said he introduced to Trump.
Griffin remembered asking him [Gaetz] what was in the folder, and its alleged contents shocked her.
"He shows me these printed out conspiracy theories that Joe Scarborough of Morning Joe and former congressman had murdered his staffer," Griffin alleged. "I said, 'Please do not show these to the President of the United States.' Then, days ensued of Donald Trump tweeting false, malicious claims about Joe Scarborough. The family of the woman who died--there was no foul play, it was a tragedy--begged Twitter and the White House to take it down, so that speaks to his character, integrity, and judgment."
Anyone who doesn't think Trump would set up one of his political enemies on phony trumped up charges, using phony dummied up evidence, doesn't know Trump.
Anyone that's not afraid and was a critic of Trump is a fool.
We are at the rubicon, waiting to see if we are going to cross it.
We have been promised that retribution is coming. Over and over we've heard it.
We've heard they are going to immediately start rounding up those they targeted with their campaign of hate towards immigrants.
We've heard his statements about ending the Constitution, of going after the Press that he considers an enemy, of those that were doing their job to hold him accountable under the law for his illegal actions. The number of threats Trump has made is long.
I take Trump and his followers at their word.
Flashback:
In the early 1930s, the Nazis campaigned in national, state, and local elections in Germany. Their major breakthrough came in September 1930, when they won 18 percent of the vote in the national parliamentary elections. They also did well in state and local elections that year. This shocked some Germans, especially those who recognized that the Nazis were an extremist, fringe political movement.encyclopedia.ushmm.org
During election campaigns, Adolf Hitler and the Nazis won followers by playing on people's hopes. The Nazis promised to
* fix the economy and put people back to work;
* return Germany to the status of a great European, and even world, power;
* regain territory Germany had lost in World War I;
* and create a strong authoritarian German government.
But the Nazis also played on people's fears and prejudices. They falsely claimed that Jews and Communists were to blame for all of Germany's problems. The Nazis promised to unite Germans along racial and ethnic lines. The Nazis planned to exclude Jews and others from German society.
Adolf Hitler came to power through Germany's legal political process.
What do you think brought those two to Mar-a-Lago?
It wasn't their decision; it was the owners of MSNBC. An action like this is not taken unilaterally by 2 talking heads. It is a directive from higher up.
I think they went of their own free will and as the result of their own fears based on their previous experience with Trump as all the posts I made above demonstrate. The rift between Mika and Joe and Trump was personal after Trump accused Joe of being a murderer and called for an investigation into the death of Joe's dead staffer to be re-opened. Since it was Matt Gaetz who personally brought Trump the folder full of conspiracy material about the staffer's death that triggered Trump to start tweeting about Joe, the murderer, it only stands to reason that the nomination of Gaetz to be AG increased their fears regarding Trump's retribution against them.
Did MSNB sign off on their visit and even encourage it? I'm sure they did, because Joe and Mika aren't the only MSNBC hosts to be threatened with retribution:
Bannon: Gaetz DOJ coming for mediathehill.com
Steve Bannon, President-elect Trump's onetime White House adviser and a conservative media personality, said if confirmed to be attorney general, former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) would go after media outlets.
Bannon singled out MSNBC, the cable news channel owned by Comcast, a company Trump himself has threatened to investigate over what he says is "treasonous" critical coverage of him.
The American people weighed in measure, and you were inundated for years. [Andrew] Weissmann, you were on TV with MSNBC and all the producers, MSNBC. Preserve your documents. Ari Melber and all you hosts. Preserve your documents. All of it," Bannon said on his "War Room" podcast.
I imagine the Trump administration will make MSNBC and maybe a few others like 60 Minutes/CBS scapegoats and examples, a warning to other journalists news outlets of what will happen to them if they are critical of Trump or just accurately report on him. The free press is one of the first casualites when a democracy becomes an autocracy. That's where we are.
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