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Saturday, June 15, 2024

The Republican National Committee posts a clipped video. Then the New York Post, the Telegraph and other pro-Trump outlets follow suit with the same deceptive framing. The use of these clips is an especially pernicious couple of examples of manipulated video - what we label "isolation" under our guide to manipulated video - because it's intended to create a false narrative that doesn't reflect the event as it occurred.

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This past week, the RNC feed has misleadingly called attention to two video clips of Biden. One was so distorted that it resulted in a "community note" on the X platform calling out its dishonesty. But the RNC's dismal track record - which we have highlighted on multiple occasions - has not stopped right-leaning outfits from echoing the RNC's framing and reinforcing its narrative that Biden has lost a step.

The New York Post video on social media was a vertical edit, which further removed the context of Biden's conversation - nothing of the panoramic view to the right and left can be seen. This is a good example of how cutting a viral "moment" vertically, without taking into account what's going on in the rest of the frame, can alter perception.

An X community note was added to the video clip, saying: "Biden didn't wander off'. After viewing a skydiving demo with the other G-7 leaders, Biden stepped aside to speak with one of the other skydivers who is kneeling on the ground packing away his chute. The video in the above post has been digitally altered to remove the skydiver."

When reality doesn't fit your desired narrative, then alter reality by fraudulently editing a video clip to in order to criticize something that never happened in real life.

We've now plumbing the depths of dishonesty and deceit thanks to the RNC's takeover by Trump and his honorless crew of hacks and reprobates to the point the old Richard Pryor line "Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes(?)" no longer is uttered as a joke. It's simply the recognition of a political cult that innately understands it has no chance without the continuing use of distortion to keep those occupying Earth 2 intoxicated in misinformation broadcast by disreputable media or criminally convicted supporters spewing endless lies - and now altered video misleadingly edited - to reach weakened minds who don't know any better nor seek the actual truth from reputable sources or through later-posted corrections.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-06-15 07:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

#1
Mega-noteworthy

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-06-15 07:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

How long before there's a deepfake of the DR. Am I really here typing this. And besides, who am "I"?

is DANFORTH just a character construct to combat BOAZ? is RC standing there behind the curtain?

DANFORTH accused me of being a former poster but with a new identity...was he right? How can I tell?

#3 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-15 10:16 AM | Reply

Posted by brerrabbit

Dishonest, demented POS.

#4 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-06-15 10:43 AM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD

Tell me how you really feel

#5 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-15 11:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

What's the biggest holiday of the year for MAGAs? January 30; the day Hitler became Chancellor of Germany! Of course! Everyone knows that Hint: Don't tell anyone in the Greatest Generation that now you love Nazis!

#6 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-15 11:41 AM | Reply

Throw that little bitch into the briar patch and see how she does.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-15 12:20 PM | Reply

Of course it is.

Republicans are dishonest piles of s^%*.

At this point, the only reasonably assumption when viewing anything they put out is verification is needed.

It's almost always not as it seems.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-15 12:38 PM | Reply

Oh, and remember kids, it's the "lame stream media" who's dishonest and pushes narratives independent of reality ...

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-15 12:43 PM | Reply

Economy is going great. Crime is down. Inflation is down. They don't have any reason attacks they can level at Biden so they lie. It's all they have.

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-06-15 12:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

"is DANFORTH just a character construct to combat BOAZ? is RC standing there behind the curtain?"

Don't flatter yourself BOAX, you're just not that important.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-15 01:56 PM | Reply

Years ago, in Trump's younger days before he was president, there was another video of Trump trying to run down an up escalator.

It wasn't fake. In his haste to escape some reporters who caught him in "ladies lingerie" at a department store, fingering the silky finery, he made a dash for the first set of stairs he saw. They just happened to be going the wrong direction.

He claimed that wasn't him and he had never been on the 5th floor in that "horrible" department store.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-15 02:03 PM | Reply

Look, we know Biden is old. You don't need to make it sound worse with lies.

Besides, Trump ain't exactly sharp, rambling on about how he wants to ban electric boats because of electrocution and sharks.

#13 | Posted by cbob at 2024-06-15 04:28 PM | Reply

Trump's brain needs a damper. When he talks too long it goes into a "Dutch roll."

#14 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-16 01:24 AM | Reply

Pause
Shakes hands with ghost
Falls down
Diverted by the Easter Bunny

None of those are fakes of any sort

#15 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-06-16 01:55 AM | Reply

Economy is going great. Crime is down. Inflation is down. They don't have any reason attacks they can level at Biden so they lie. It's all they have.

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-06-15 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag

If it weren't for you, no one would know these things.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-17 05:55 AM | Reply

There's no excuse to fabricate anything about Joe Biden. There's a ton of REAL video/audio out there. I've seen him fall upstairs, downstairs and on a flat stage. Ive seen him fall off his bike with both feet on the ground, shake hands with ghosts and get lost on a small stage with a podium as a point of reference. Although I don't have proof, I'd bet good money that he's ---- himself more than once on video.

It's to the point that it's embarrassing and really hard to watch when you think about it from the perspective of his family being absolutely aware of what it looks like. I'd never let my dad be in a position like that. There's no way in hell this man is capable of making sound decisions for the country.

#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-17 06:03 AM | Reply

#16-17

The Motivated Ignorance of Trump Supporters
Textbook examples.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-06-17 02:32 PM | Reply

I think it's noteworthy that, to propagate the notion that Trump is demented and senile, you simply need a live unedited feed of him talking, but to do the same with Biden the RNC keeps using deceptive edits.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2024-06-17 02:42 PM | Reply

Or, are they real and the leftists media are just claiming otherwise to protect the Big Guy????

#20 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-06-17 02:58 PM | Reply

Or, are they real and the leftists media are just claiming otherwise to protect the Big Guy????

#20 | POSTED BY MSGT

MSGT is proof some people will believe anything.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-17 03:00 PM | Reply

#20 is why fake videos work. You can show these ------- that a video is fake and they just won't listen because they already made up their minds. Meanwhile trump is a complete babbling idiot talking about sharks and boat batteries and they say "yes sir, very good and normal story sir."

---- off moron.

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2024-06-17 03:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump, where he belongs....

www.youtube.com

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-17 03:01 PM | Reply

What's the biggest holiday of the year for MAGAs? January 30; the day Hitler became Chancellor of Germany! Of course! Everyone knows that Hint: Don't tell anyone in the Greatest Generation that now you love Nazis!

#6 | Posted by danni

I can't find anything to substantiate the "MAGA holiday", but I did find this-

Ukraine designates national holiday for Nazi collaborator
Jewish News
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk ukraine-designates-nati...

#24 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 03:10 PM | Reply

Incidentally learned that at least eight actual bigwig NAZIs from Germany were later installed as NATO bigwigs. Look it up.

#25 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 03:23 PM | Reply

Daddysfist, your child-raping hero admires Hitler.

www.timesofisrael.com

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-17 03:32 PM | Reply

#25

Don't need to look it up, though you probably should. When any nation falls in the quick, dramatic fashion that WWII ended in Europe, it only makes sense to empower former military to help run the day-to-day needs of the nation until the time political elections become possible again once the country returns to a more normal nation-state functioning again, including the massive job of reconstruction and rehousing of all the affected German people.

Since every German officer had to swear allegiance to the Nazi Party and its leader, it only makes sense that a number of former German officers were rehabilitated into allies by the then nascent NATO alliance. They were likely the ones making day-to-day life in Germany function through their administration and knowledge of the then existent bureaucracy and would be crucial in reconstructing a functioning infrastructure after all the destruction done by Allied bombings and attacks.

#27 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-06-17 03:36 PM | Reply

#27 Which is why De-Baathification was such a disaster for Iraq.

Almost all the people who knew how to run the country had joined the Baath Party in order to start or advance their careers.

It's just like Deplorables to think all that experience doesn't really matter.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-17 03:41 PM | Reply

Don't need to look it up, though you probably should. When any nation falls in the quick, dramatic fashion that WWII ended in Europe, it only makes sense to empower former military to help run the day-to-day needs of the nation until the time political elections become possible again once the country returns to a more normal nation-state functioning again, including the massive job of reconstruction and rehousing of all the affected German people.
#27 Posted by tonyroma
Don't need to look it up, though you probably should.
-I did.
makes sense to empower former military to help run the day-to-day needs of the nation
-"day-to-day needs of the nation" does not comprise 'Commander in Chief of NATO forces in central Europe'
until the time political elections become possible again
-I see one here CinC NATO 1979-1983, long after "political elections become possible again"
including the massive job of reconstruction and rehousing of all the affected German people.
-"job of reconstruction and rehousing of all the affected German people" does not comprise 'Commander in Chief of NATO forces in central Europe'

#29 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 03:51 PM | Reply

-I see one here CinC NATO 1979-1983

First off, I can find no position in NATO called CinC. NATO is helmed by a Supreme Allied Commander, not a Commander in Chief.

Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) has always been held by a U.S. military officer, and the position is dual-hatted with that of Commander of United States European Command.

en.wikipedia.org

Would you like to post links to whatever you're talking about please?

#30 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-06-17 04:03 PM | Reply

They were likely the ones making day-to-day life in Germany function through their administration and knowledge of the then existent bureaucracy
#27 Posted by tonyrom
-Not really, these were strictly military commanders, not bureaucrats charged to administer the "day-to-day life in Germany". I expect, though, that some of the bureaucrats were retained; My research was not in the area of occupational administration of post-war Germany.

Tony, you do have a gift of sophistry and a talent to fabricate outwardly plausible explanations. But I'm not going to take yours or anyone else's glib condensed versions at face value.

#31 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 04:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I can find no position in NATO called CinC.
Would you like to post links to whatever you're talking about please?

#30 | Posted by tonyroma

As for the
organizational structure, General Eisenhower's initial concept was to give each region an
overall Commander-in-Chief (CINC). Underneath the CINCs there would be separate Land,
Air and Naval Commanders for each region.1 This concept made great sense militarily, but
its implementation soon encountered major political problems in two of the three region

shape.nato.int

COMLANDCENT was the new designation.

#32 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 04:27 PM | Reply

But I'm not going to take yours or anyone else's glib condensed versions at face value.

Ditto. The one link you posted so far does not contain a single name of "at least eight actual bigwig NAZIs from Germany were later installed as NATO bigwigs" as you state.

I've looked it up and so far I can't find squat about your assertion. NATO was formed in 1951, six years after the end of WWII. It seems totally antithetical that NATO would appoint "bigwhig Nazi's" into important roles without already knowing these men were loyal to their new nation - and anti-communism - and not immersed in known Nazi atrocities and perversions from years before.

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-06-17 04:49 PM | Reply

- glib condensed versions

Hmmm... so that's what facts sound like to rwingers.

Always wondered about that.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-17 04:57 PM | Reply

I did find this:

The postwar Allied Control Council duly dissolved the Wehrmacht on Aug. 20, 1946. Within a decade, however, the world would look considerably different. In 1949, with the onset of the Cold War, the Western Allies formed the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), with a unified military command structure. NATO's primary mission was to deter an increasingly belligerent Soviet Union, which had liberated the countries of Eastern Europe only to occupy and enslave them as communist satellite states.

Armies cannot be created overnight. Rank-and-file soldiers can be brought in off the streets and trained to minimum effectiveness in about six months. But what about commanders? Where do you find leaders - particularly general officers - with the background and experience to train, organize and lead an army built from scratch?

In West Germany's case the answer was obvious but complicated. Especially challenging was finding qualified officers who had served the Wehrmacht in the most senior positions and, therefore, had the background and experience to become the Bundeswehr's senior commanders.

The West German government subjected all former Wehrmacht soldiers volunteering for the Bundeswehr to a rigorous screening process. Initially, it permitted only Waffen-SS soldiers at the rank of captain and below to serve. Later it accepted officers up to the rank of lieutenant colonel, provided they passed the screening. Ultimately, 61 Wehrmacht generals and admirals made it through, though by the fall of 1957 only 42 of them had joined the Bundeswehr.

The most senior officers of the latter group were Hans Speidel and Adolf Heusinger, who on Oct. 10 and Nov. 12, 1955, respectively, were sworn in as the Bundeswehr's first two lieutenant generals. Both turned 58 that year and were joining their fourth German army - starting with the Deutsches Heer of World War I, followed by the Weimar Republic's interwar Reichswehr, then the Wehrmacht. Though Speidel and Heusinger had been lieutenant generals in the Wehrmacht, both were brought into the new German armed forces one level up. Prior to 1945 a German Generalleutnant had been the two-star equivalent of a British or American major general. The Bundeswehr changed the rank structure to make a new Generalleutnant the three-star equivalent of its NATO allies' lieutenant generals.

Heusinger and Speidel were appointed senior members of the Blank Office, which on June 7, 1955, became West Germany's Federal Ministry of Defense, with civil servant Theodor Blank as its first minister. Once commissioned as the Bundeswehr's first two general officers, Speidel was assigned as chief of the Combined Forces Department at the Ministry of Defense, while Heusinger chaired the Military Leadership Council. In 1957 Speidel and Heusinger were promoted to become the Bundeswehr's first four-star generals.

That spring Heusinger succeeded Speidel as chief of Combined Forces when the latter was appointed commander in chief of Allied Land Forces in Central Europe (COMLANDCENT), becoming the first German officer to hold a NATO commander in chief position. Working from headquarters at France's Fontainebleau Castle, Speidel managed the Bundeswehr's integration into NATO. Although he had never commanded anything larger than a company, he was the senior operational commander of all German, American, French and British divisions assigned to NATO's Central Region. If war had broken out with the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, Speidel would have been the senior NATO ground commander.

www.historynet.com

#35 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-06-17 04:57 PM | Reply

That spring Heusinger succeeded Speidel as chief of Combined Forces when the latter was appointed commander in chief of Allied Land Forces in Central Europe (COMLANDCENT),

Here's the eight I read about:

Adolf Heusinger
Hans Speidel
Johannes Steinhoff
Johann von Kielmansegg
Ernst Ferber
Karl Schnell
Franz-Joseph Schultze
Ferdinand von Senger und Etterlin

#36 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 07:01 PM | Reply

I've looked it up and so far I can't find squat about your assertion. NATO was formed in 1951, six years after the end of WWII. It seems totally antithetical that NATO would appoint "bigwhig Nazi's" into important roles without already knowing these men were loyal to their new nation - and anti-communism - and not immersed in known Nazi atrocities and perversions from years before.

#33 | Posted by tonyroma

It seems totally antithetical that NATO would appoint "bigwhig Nazi's" into important roles
-I Know!! Right?!

Anyway, above find the list of "at least eight NAZI bigwigs" from my initial assertion.
I'll leave it to you to discover more if you wish. Most of them were that COMLANDCENT/CinC spot.

#37 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 07:07 PM | Reply

I don't think any of them were MAGAs, Danni. You started this sub-thread, btw. Thanks!

#38 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-17 07:10 PM | Reply

@#1 ... This past week, the RNC feed has misleadingly called attention to two video clips of Biden. One was so distorted that it resulted in a "community note" on the X platform calling out its dishonesty. But the RNC's dismal track record - which we have highlighted on multiple occasions - has not stopped right-leaning outfits from echoing the RNC's framing and reinforcing its narrative that Biden has lost a step.

The New York Post video on social media was a vertical edit, which further removed the context of Biden's conversation - nothing of the panoramic view to the right and left can be seen. This is a good example of how cutting a viral "moment" vertically, without taking into account what's going on in the rest of the frame, can alter perception. ...

Why did the RNC and the NYPost seem to feel the need to selectively edit the videos?

Stated differently, are the RNC and the NYPost effectively admitting that the candidate they back is so weak that the RNC has to distort videos of its opponent?

#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-17 07:45 PM | Reply

Idk Tony, every video that is one single shot was of Biden "wandering off" and being "frozen"

Every counter video had cuts and edits ...

D-Day parachute
m.youtube.com

Obama helping Joe get unstuck.
m.youtube.com

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -George Orwell

#40 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-17 07:49 PM | Reply

Why did the RNC and the NYPost seem to feel the need to selectively edit the videos?

Where's the edits? What second in the above videos I posted was edited or cut?

#41 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-17 07:50 PM | Reply

Look at you! Pushing the propaganda and lies without missing a beat!

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-17 07:51 PM | Reply

Stated differently, the Lumpers are admitting that the candidate they back is so weak that they need to distort videos of their candidate?

When will we finally replace Biden with a real candidate? It won't be long now I hope.

#43 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-17 07:54 PM | Reply

Look at you! Pushing the propaganda and lies without missing a beat!

Where's the lie Yav? what second of which video is distorted?

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-17 07:54 PM | Reply

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -George Orwell

#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-17 07:55 PM | Reply

I know you're stupid but read the article ffs.

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-17 07:56 PM | Reply

" The New York Post video on social media was a vertical edit, which further removed the context of Biden's conversation - nothing of the panoramic view to the right and left can be seen. This is a good example of how cutting a viral "moment" vertically, without taking into account what's going on in the rest of the frame, can alter perception."

idiot.

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-17 08:00 PM | Reply

IAMRUNT is hoping Derek Chauvin will replace the demented orange pedo.

#48 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-17 08:00 PM | Reply

Fact checker: Cheapfake' Biden videos enrapture right-wing media, but deeply mislead
www.washingtonpost.com

... On June 13, at about 1 p.m., the RNC posted a clip it captioned, "What is Biden doing?" The post has been viewed more than 3 million times. Biden is seen with other Group of Seven leaders watching skydivers in Italy, carrying the flags of the nations. Biden turns and walks a few steps to chat with one of the parachutists, the only leader to do so. Then Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni turns him back to the other leaders. In one feed distributed by news services " the one used by the RNC " it's not entirely clear who Biden is talking to, but an alternative feed, also distributed by news services, makes it clear that Biden is having a conversation.

The New York Post jumped on the RNC clip, posting a story less than two hours later and embedding the RNC post. When the White House cried foul, saying the video had been taken out of context, the newspaper buried that comment in the bottom of the story, while noting that the video feed had been distributed by news services. (None characterized it as the RNC did. C-SPAN, for instance, titled its video: "President Biden & G-7 Leaders Watch Skydiving Demonstration.") ...



#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-17 08:03 PM | Reply

Wait.
You're telling Oneironaut to read the article and see all the edits and crops and then compare it to the actual video?
Then make a reasoned argument on how the right wing propaganda outlets are pushing flat out lies?
Lies so ridiculous that Howard Kurtz at Fox "news" couldn't take it and called it out?
Hahaha!
Good luck with that!

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-17 08:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#50 ... Good luck with that! ...

Yeah, I know. Thanks for the good wishes.

I am updating some scripts on one of my servers this evening to handle the NWS's change from XML to JSON in their data feed.

So, I have some downtime in that task here and there.

{shrug}

:)



#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-17 08:17 PM | Reply

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -George Orwell

#45 | Posted by oneironaut

Started with Trump's puny inaugeration which he called the biggest in history and made others repeat the ridiculous lie to show fealty to him.

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-06-17 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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