There's a Reason Trump Is Suddenly Lying About Project 2025

Tuesday, July 09, 2024

Norman L. Eisen and Joshua Kolb: This reflects an attempt to deceive American voters about the dictatorship a second Trump term would bring.

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It looks like the recent SCOTUS ~the president is above the law~ a possibly re-elected Trump is going to have a free reign, especially since he seems to be avoiding possible aides who served as guard-rails in his prior administration.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-09 07:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The word "Project" sounds too neat and innocent. Let's call it what it is. A Manifesto! ~ designed (by only 100 ultra-right power-grabbers) to have the worst possible consequences for everyone else in America but themselves and their ilk.

#2 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-10 01:53 AM | Reply

Twinpac,

Have you read any of it?

I just learned today that it's a 1,000 page document that is mostly just boilerplate conservative policy advocations.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 01:58 AM | Reply

just boilerplate conservative policy advocations.

Yes. It is. That's what they want. Well done.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-10 02:07 AM | Reply

I just learned today

Please. Do share what little you know, and feel free to expand on it like someone should give a shht.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 02:08 AM | Reply

"Please. Do share what little you know, and feel free to expand on it like someone should give a shht.

#5 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Piss off. You lack the intellectual curiosity, much less the intellectual honesty, the actually look at any of it. Just regurgitate talking points that your betters feed you.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 02:22 AM | Reply

its about 800 pages and a slog tbh.

luckily theres an overview on wikipedia.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-10 02:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh no. The village idiot is hurling insults.

I'd call you the dumbest poster in the DR, but your fellow trolling MAGAts give you too much competition.

Suffice to say, you're a liar and no one believes you.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 02:29 AM | Reply

"luckily theres an overview on wikipedia.

#7 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Good to know. I'll take a look at that when I have some time, especially if it looks like significant parts of it are likely to be incorporated into the platform.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 02:44 AM | Reply

The obvious reason why Trump is lying is because he thinks there's a lot of things in that "Manifesto" that can be used against him and cost him votes in November.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-10 02:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

there's a lot of things in that "Manifesto" that can be used against him

Only if you think eliminating civil rights for women, Black Americans, immigrants, and the LGBTQ+ is problematic.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 02:57 AM | Reply

I just learned today that it's a 1,000 page document....

#3 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I try to extend a certain amount of grace here, but this is flat-out horse$#!t.

#12 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-07-10 03:03 AM | Reply

Especially during an election year, when lefties across the spectrum freak out over something like this, especially when it's mostly hyperbole, I tend to not follow it closely because it's usually just fear-tactics.

Perhaps Republicans should hold up "Das Kapital" as the Democrat blueprint. We essentially have 2 incumbents in this election. I'm pretty sure I understand where both will likely go in terms of policy because both have a track record.

#13 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 03:21 AM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-07-10 03:21 AM | REPLY | FLAG:PPPFFFTTTT

Yeah like Bushturd2 used Saddam and WMDs... and blurry videos of bin Laden...and gay marrige to engage two decades of war only to lose... oh and the economic disaster
I hear ya... don't want that to happen again

GFY

Clearly you're wrong
Probably don't know what you are doing maybe too stupid to pass for ignorant
You need mental medication or you are already on mental medication but the reality of your effups are just so great the meds don't work anymore... if ever.

Because when all that is said and done it boils down to you and your ilk are the problem.

carry on...

#14 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-10 05:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13
Why do you insist on sounding like a fool and yet insist you aren't? Disingeuous perhaps? I believe the proper term may be "stooge."

Here goes: Republicans wrote the Project 2025 document. It'll probably shock you, Jeffy, but Karl Marx is dead, he's been dead a long time, and he wasn't a Democrat.

That's your history lite lesson for today. Digest it and you can come back for more

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-10 05:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#13 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Somewhere a village is missing its idiot.

#16 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-07-10 10:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" 16 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2024-07-10 10:22 AM | FLAG: "

The only village idiot is you if you can't look at a 4 year established track record of both candidates and not have a decent sense for policy of each candidate.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 01:26 PM | Reply

If only the Democratic candidate for President had brought up Project 2025 once during the debate or his subsequent "interview." Oh well, i guess that's too much to ask, i suppose society will have to do this for him.

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-10 01:36 PM | Reply

If only the Democratic candidate for President had brought up Project 2025 once during the debate

Pretty sure he was just trying to remember where he was the whole time.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 01:43 PM | Reply

The only village idiot is you if you can't look at a 4 year established track record of both candidates and not have a decent sense for policy of each candidate.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger

Lets see...

4 years of trump - explode the debt to give tax cuts to the rich instead of building the wall, blackmail our allies and get impeached over it, kill a half million americans with incompetence during a crisis, and then attempt a fascist coup and get impeached again

4 years of biden - record stock market, record low unemployment, massive infrastructure investment

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-10 01:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We essentially have 2 incumbents in this election. I'm pretty sure I understand where both will likely go in terms of policy because both have a track record.
#13 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Yeah?

Which one are you voting for?

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-10 01:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

when lefties across the spectrum freak out over something like this, especially when it's mostly hyperbole, I tend to not follow it closely because it's usually just fear-tactics.

But you just learned about it yesterday, correct mr intellectual curiosity?

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-10 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The only village idiot is you if you can't look at a 4 year established track record of both candidates and not have a decent sense for policy of each candidate.
#17 | Posted by BellRinger
Lets see...
4 years of trump - explode the debt to give tax cuts to the rich instead of building the wall, blackmail our allies and get impeached over it, kill a half million americans with incompetence during a crisis, and then attempt a fascist coup and get impeached again
4 years of biden - record stock market, record low unemployment, massive infrastructure investment
#20 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Jeff gets fact checked again.

Expect one of the typical responses:
1. Jeff makes another counter factual argument completely unrelated
2. Jeff disappears only to make the same fact free argument in a few days on another thread

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-07-10 03:57 PM | Reply

#23. Fact checked?

All I said is I have a pretty good idea as to the policies that either candidate would pursue because both have an established track record. That's it. You suggested that such a take is idiotic which is idiotic for anyone paying attention to politics.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 04:01 PM | Reply

"You lack the intellectual curiosity, much less the intellectual honesty, the actually look at any of it."

FFS, Dude, you claimed you were following Trump's hush money trial closely, and then it turned out you had no idea about the two central prosecution exhibits.

So STFU about "intellectual honesty" until you acquire some of your own.

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-10 04:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

f it looks like significant parts of it are likely to be incorporated into the platform.

#9 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You mean the --------------- platform?

www.cnn.com

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-10 04:32 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER
Somewhere a village is missing its idiot.

#16 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

No group, person or entity ever "misses" jeff!

They are thrilled to see his wide ass walk away as the average IQ increases 50 points

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-10 04:35 PM | Reply

Just going to point this out.

Jeff concludes that Project 2025 is -------- policy in a thread about ------- denying Project 2025 is his policy.

Jeff doesn't comprehend is own inherent deceit

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-10 04:38 PM | Reply

#24 | Posted by BellRinger

What's idiotic is you acting like there's more than one patriotic and rational choice.

Trump is owned by putin, loves tyrants around the world, is a lifelong crook, partied with epstein for 15 years, and again - ATTEMPTED A COUP - and you sit here every day spouting the arguments that he makes for why he should be given another shot to end our country as we knew it.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-10 04:52 PM | Reply

I'll say it again. I'll do it slowly and can even use crayons so you people can understand:

I have a pretty good understanding of the policies that either candidate will pursue if they win.

How do I know this? Because both have an established track record.

Anyone taking umbrage with that statement is deranged.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 06:38 PM | Reply

Hopefully you pulled that crayon out of your nose cause it must be pressing on your brain.

"I have a pretty good understanding of the policies that either candidate will pursue if they win."

Is Project 2025 the policies ------- will pursue if re-elected?

If yes, why did he say they weren't?

If no, then what is your point?

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-10 06:47 PM | Reply

Because both have an established track record.

Anyone taking umbrage with that statement is deranged.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger

No one is taking umbrage with that you queen.

We take umbrage with you looking at those track records and then continuing to support the obviously far worse side.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-10 06:47 PM | Reply

" then what is your point?
#31 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-07-10 06:47 PM | FLAG: "

I wasn't try to make a point. I was making what I thought was a fairly innocuous comment about the predictive nature of both candidates in terms of policy because both have established track records. THAT'S IT.

And for some reason people on this site are losing their ---- over a benign statement.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 06:50 PM | Reply

Texas has created a test for gay people like bell.

Hey bellringer can you see the image?

gov.texas.gov

#34 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-10 07:01 PM | Reply

#33 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

TH: Yeah, but that is not what you did. You downplayed the impact of Project 2025. You see you did it right here:

#13 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You make the claim that you know ----ler's policy because of his track record. ----ler denies Project 2025. Project 2025 is an onerous plan. Project 2025 is in reality ----ler's plan.

So, you are either lying that Project 2025 ISN'T ----ler's plan (like he is lying) OR you are lying that you can predict his policies. So, which is it?

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-10 07:05 PM | Reply

Patricide Jeff is excited over his child-raping hero's plan to screw over suckers and losers.

www.rawstory.com

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-10 07:21 PM | Reply

" So, which is it?

#35 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-07-10 07:05 PM | FLAG: "

His established track record is a much more reliable predictive indicator than a 800 page document put out by a think tank.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 07:57 PM | Reply

His established track record is a much more reliable predictive indicator than a 800 page document put out by a think tank.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger

You mean the think thank that dictated all his supreme court picks?

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-10 08:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

His established track record is a much more reliable predictive indicator than a 800 page document put out by a think tank.

#37 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You, therefore, are not aware that the vast vast vast majority of Project 2025 aligns with a. actions taken by ------- in his 1st term, b. align with numerous and repeated statements by ------- during his candidacy and c. aligns with the ------- focused Republican platform.

Or you are a liar.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-10 08:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What BellRinger is saying is, he supports Project 2025.

Not sure why that's surprising for any of you.

He's a Deplorable Trumping MAGAt.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 08:27 PM | Reply

Most of Trump's policies were boilerplate conservative policies during his first term.

You are all SO desperate for a boogey man in addition to Trump and apparently 2025 is the talking point.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-10 08:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Most of Trump's policies were boilerplate conservative policies during his first term.
You are all SO desperate for a boogey man in addition to Trump and apparently 2025 is the talking point.

#41 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

------- is the boogeyman, Project 2025 is his plan to inflict his nightmare on the country.

You support him.

It really is that simple

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-10 08:32 PM | Reply

Most of Trump's policies were boilerplate conservative policies during his first term.

You are all SO desperate for a boogey man in addition to Trump and apparently 2025 is the talking point.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger

When did giving up our russian spies to putin become boilerplate conservative policies?

Trump is enough of a boogeyman to concern anyone with a brain and an ounce of patriotism. Project 2025 is just more evidence that the rest of the party is too insane to stop him.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-10 08:33 PM | Reply

You are all SO desperate for a boogey man in addition to Trump and apparently 2025 is the talking point.

Says the ignorant moron who didn't know what Project 2025 was until yesterday.

You don't care what Project 2025 is and are fully on board for whatever Republicans want.

Which is stripping Americans of their civil rights.

You POS.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 08:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

To be a Republican in today's GOP, you have to hate women, hate Black Americans, despise minorities, despise immigrants, loath the LGBTQ+, be Christian, be white, be born and identify as male.

European Americans are Nucking Futs.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 08:37 PM | Reply

"To be a Republican in today's GOP, you have to.............."

Curious....what do you mean by "today"?

IOW, when did the GOP not have the same positions you assigned to them "today"?

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 08:44 PM | Reply

"You are all SO desperate for a boogey man.."

Setting aside the obvious desperation, does this Project 2025 concern you?

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 08:48 PM | Reply

when did the GOP not have the same positions you assigned to them "today"?

#46 | Posted by eberly

Are you saying the GOP already wanted to overthrow democracy and give total power to the president before trump?

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-10 08:52 PM | Reply

no dum dum....I was asking Clown a question...

Are you saying the GOP already wanted to overthrow democracy.....blah blah?

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 08:54 PM | Reply

what do you mean by "today"?

The Republican Party has become Trump's party.

People who used to be the upper crust of the GOP, the Bushs, the Cheneys, Romneys, McCains ... are all branded as RINOs. They were literally presidents, vice presidents, presidential nominees, leaders of the party, all RINOs.

You yourself were much more of a republican 10 years ago than you are today.

The party has shift to embrace far rightwing ideology.

They control enough states to no longer worry about moderates and independents.

They will completely overhaul the federal government should they win.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fair enough.....but none of those names were RINOs when they were running and/or winning elections for the White House.

-You yourself were much more of a republican 10 years ago than you are today.

What issues have I changed my position?

abortion rights? nope
gay marriage? nope
guns? nope
votes for president? 2000 was last time I voted R for president

how was I more of a republican 10 years ago?

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 09:05 PM | Reply

none of those names were RINOs when they were running and/or winning elections for the White House.

Exactly.

So what changed?

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 09:11 PM | Reply

-So what changed?

Their acts are in the past. Can't be changed.

The only change can be your perception of them.

You've been told the GOP has been running to the extreme right for the past 40 years. Every single election cycle

How much further to the right can they go?

You'll never see that stop. If you live to 100, the GOP will be running to the extreme right 30 years after Trump is dead.

And you'll call Trump a RINO ... ... ..eventually.

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 09:22 PM | Reply

How much further to the right can they go?

Project 2025. You know, that thing you wont read.

#54 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-10 09:24 PM | Reply

-that thing you wont read.

I can read it whenever I want. I've read some but not all of it

Too bad for you. If someone offered you $1,000 to read it, you'd still be broke.

No ------ way you possess the aptitude to read it.

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 09:32 PM | Reply

If you read it you wouldnt be asking your dumb ass question about how far right the republicans can go.

Unless you're just trolling. So which is it? Are you a liar or a troll?

#56 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-10 09:34 PM | Reply

Alex, you haven't possibly read any of it.

You're being fed the talking points

Which is fine. But it's cute watching you pretend you can actually read something like project 2025.

Nobody believes you.

Everyone believes me.

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 09:39 PM | Reply

We have an unelected ideological cartel running America for their own benefit. They need purged from ever running our country again. Call them whatever - project 2025 etc. They need stripped from influence.

#58 | Posted by Robson at 2024-07-10 09:41 PM | Reply

its on wiikipedia. there are articles on it. you cant even be bothered to read 2 page articles HERE.

youre ------- nuts, eberly.

#59 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-10 09:42 PM | Reply

www.project2025.org

30 chapters? Okay ... ..I'll get into it.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 09:51 PM | Reply

www.niskanencenter.org

#62 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-10 09:57 PM | Reply

Their acts are in the past. Can't be changed.

The only change can be your perception of them.

What are you going on about? Did you get lost? My perception?

I'm not the one labeling Republicans as RINOs.

You know who is, today's Republican Party.

My question to you was, why are they doing that?

Try to answer the question without bringing me up.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 09:57 PM | Reply

you'll call Trump a RINO ... ... ..eventually.
#53 | POSTED BY EBERLY

No, I won't, because I'm not a Republican.

You seem completely unable to carry on discussion without making it about me.

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-10 09:59 PM | Reply

-I'm not the one labeling Republicans as RINOs.

Sure you are.

Who else?

Name names

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 10:02 PM | Reply

www.nytimes.com

#66 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-10 10:03 PM | Reply

"today's Republican Party."

Name names

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 10:03 PM | Reply

Exactly. Talking points

Leave the actual reading to the literate.

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-10 10:04 PM | Reply

"Read the furious texts the Heritage Foundation sent furry hacking collective SiegedSec after breach

The hacking group SiegedSec released a chat log between one of its members and an employee with the Heritage Foundation on Wednesday, just days after it leaked data from the conservative think tank.

The Daily Dot reached out to Howell over X and asked him to confirm the chat log's legitimacy. Howell, who falsely accused the Daily Dot of being involved in the hack itself, responded by confirming the post's accuracy.

"Yah that's me. For sure," Howell said, noting the conversation occurred today.

;

In his back-and-forth with the SiegedSec member known as "vio," Howell began by asking the hackers what they were "seeking or threatening."

"we want to make a message and shine light on who exactly supports the heritage foundation, vio wrote.

"we dont want anything more than that, not money and not fame. we're strongly against Project 2025 and everything the heritage foundation stands for."

www.dailydot.com