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Wednesday, September 18, 2024

The number of migrants trekking toward the US through the dangerous Darien jungle route fell to a two-year low after President Joe Biden and Panama's new government imposed tighter controls.

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... Some 16,603 migrants crossed into Central America from Colombia in August, according to Panama's migration institute, down 80% from the same month in 2023.

Most of the people taking this route plan to cross Central America and Mexico to get to the US southern border. Immigration is among the top concerns for voters in this year's election between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

In June, Biden issued an executive order limiting asylum claims. Then, in July, Panama's new President Jose Raul Mulino took office and closed six of the seven border crossings from Colombia and increased patrols. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-17 07:41 PM | Reply

"Kamala's Fault!" - the usual lewzers

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-17 07:42 PM | Reply

@#2 ... "Kamala's Fault!" - the usual lewzers ...

Meanwhile, the GOP torpedoes their own bill in Congress to increase border security because fmr Pres Trump told them to do so.

And now, the GOP complains about border security?


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-17 08:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Then, in July, Panama's new President Jose Raul Mulino took office and closed six of the seven border crossings from Colombia and increased patrols. ...

This is likely related to the work done by Kamala Harris when she was appointed by Biden to address the root causes of migration, NOT with securing our Southern border directly. That is the job of the Director of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas.

The current administration's focus evolved to leading a hemisphere-wide effort to mitigate, manage, and order migration through creating and adopting the landmark Los Angeles Declaration on Migration and Protection alongside 21 partners from across the region - notably the first time such a hemispheric-wide agreement directly involved the United States and Canada.

Under the LA declaration, the Biden-Harris administration has secured unprecedented cooperation to curb irregular migration. Today, for example, Mexico is doing more to stem irregular migration to the United States than it has ever done before.

Critically, the LA declaration built on successful migrant integration efforts in Latin America and spurred multiple countries to create new temporary legal status programs for migrants in order to stabilize these populations and to provide an alternative to migrating further. In May 2024, countries such as Ecuador, Colombia, and Costa Rica at the third ministerial meeting on the LA declaration announced regularization programs for various irregular migrant populations - building on the nearly 2 million Venezuelans who had already been provided status in Colombia alone. Today, more than 80 percent of those displaced in Latin America and the Caribbean have found a home in the region and have not proceeded to the U.S.-Mexico border.

So far in fiscal year 2024, compared with fiscal year 2021, there has been a 14 percent drop in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection average monthly encounters from Guatemala, a 39 percent drop from El Salvador, and a 50 percent drop from Honduras.

Combined with a recent executive order signed by President Biden related to asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border and the use of the statutory immigration parole authority to build new, lawful pathways, these layered efforts to mitigate, manage, and order migration have, in recent months, reduced encounters between ports of entry at the U.S.-Mexico border to below what they were during the same months in 2019.

Vice President Harris' work in northern Central America and the Biden-Harris administration's efforts through the LA declaration have set the United States up for precisely that kind of sustained order - but only if elected leaders turn away from weaponizing immigration and work on real solutions.

www.americanprogress.org

Until the search I just did a couple minutes ago, I'm today's day-old in ever hearing about the LA declaration. Democrats completely suck at even making Americans aware of what Biden and Harris have done which is directly responsible for the record drop of migrants showing up at our border over the last few months.

So the next time one of Trump's ignoranti jump into a discussion of "open borders," mark this thread and link for something to counter them. They won't believe it anyway, but it happens to be the truth.

#4 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-17 08:18 PM | Reply

@#4 ... This is likely related to the work done by Kamala Harris when she was appointed by Biden to address the root causes of migration ...

Yup.

As the US Border Patrol Union has said (do I really need to post the link again?) a border wall is a failed solution to a symptom.

VP Harris was charged with trying to resolve the root cause of the border problem, i.e., among other things, reduce the number of people approaching our borders.


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#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-17 08:23 PM | Reply

#4

Tony, they are flying them in, upto 30,000 a month through the parole program.

The whole point was to get the app working and start flying the "paroles" into the country to lower the migration numbers at the border

Harris had nothing to do with Panama closing it's borders. Democracy did, intelligent people had had enough of getting trampled by an uncaring government.
www.nbcnews.com

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-17 09:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#6 ... they are flying them in...

OK.

Where are they flying "them" into?

And, if they are flying "them" in, how will a wall stop that?

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-17 09:53 PM | Reply

@#7 ... if they are flying "them" in, how will a wall stop that? ...

It must be a very tall wall.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-17 09:54 PM | Reply

Harris had nothing to do with Panama closing it's borders.

I presented the exact link SHOWING all the nations in the LA Declaration and Panama indeed is one. The actions their new President took is consistent with what other nations are doing as well, all of them signees of the pact.

Perhaps you'd be better served providing links to things you post without substantiation. You have zero credibility, and you know it.

#9 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-17 10:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

they are flying them in, upto 30,000 a month through the parole program.

You do realize that the US needs immigrant workers in the worst way, especially in agriculture, don't you?

And these are vetted asylum seekers who did what we asked, and that was to register in their own countries and not show up on our borders.

And 30,000 is far less than the numbers showing up monthly during the peak months over recent years.

FFS, the US implements a plan for orderly immigration and you xenophobes continue to complain. Just wait until you need some service and there is no one there to provide it to you because the job is unfilled due to lack of workers.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-17 10:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

From Oneiron's own link that was conveniently left out of his diatribe.

The program started in fall 2022. Migrants must apply online, arrive at an airport and have a financial sponsor in the U.S. If approved, they can stay for two years and get a work permit.

Some states said the initiative has benefited them. One Nicaraguan migrant admitted into the country through that process filled a position at a farm in Washington state that was struggling to find workers.

Tipton questioned how Texas could be claiming financial losses if data showed that the parole program actually reduced the number of migrants coming into the U.S.

Exactly! Just as absurd as Oneiron complaining about this effective program that limits the number of migrants. Evidently, bigoted xenophobes want no immigration whatsoever. If so, come out and say it and stop trying to hide behind hyperbole and scare quotes.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-17 11:07 PM | Reply

@#6 ... Harris had nothing to do with Panama closing it's borders. ...

Migration to US Through Panama's Jungle Cut by 80% on Tighter Curbs
www.bnnbloomberg.ca

This is what VP Harris was tasked with, and what the GOP still appears to be unable (or unwanting) to understand.

Solve the root cause, not the symptom.


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-17 11:09 PM | Reply

they are flying them in, upto 30,000 a month through the parole program.

Are these immigrants in the room with you now?

#13 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-09-18 10:11 AM | Reply

The GOP's primary political export now-a-days is
fiction and BS... It is all they've got.

#14 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-09-18 11:20 AM | Reply

It's a farce that we need to import low wage workers.

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-09-18 11:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

The mayor of Springfield, Ohio is making millions by replacing a third of the population of his town with Haitian immigrants.

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-09-18 11:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

The mayor of Springfield, Ohio is a Republican.

#17 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2024-09-18 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh no! That makes it better.

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-09-18 01:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"It's a farce that we need to import low wage workers."

Is it?

What is your proof?

Your feels?

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-18 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Oh no! That makes it better."

Better than what?

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-18 01:33 PM | Reply

If a city has 22% unemployment and citizens are moving out because they can't find work, what economic theory do you use to import tens of thousands of unskilled workers?

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-09-18 03:23 PM | Reply

The mayor of Springfield, Ohio is a Republican.

#17 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2024-09-18 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag

That's ridiculous. Corruption is everywhere.

It's like saying:

True story: A governor of Louisiana and a governor of Illinois were both corrupt and both spent time in prison = all democrats are corrupt.

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 11:44 AM | Reply

"That's ridiculous. Corruption is everywhere."

Yup! Especially in the Republican Party these days.

But we are currently taking about one Republican mayor of one town.

Are you accusing the republican mayor of Springfield of being corrupt?

That's a serious accusation.

What is your proof? Or are you just talking out of your tRump again?

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 11:50 AM | Reply

That's a serious accusation.

What is your proof? Or are you just talking out of your tRump again?

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 11:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't have any proof, but in the court of public opinion I do suspect there's an upside in it for him to be completely fine with that many immigrants infiltrating his town.

It's called critical thinking, you should try it sometime.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 12:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"I don't have any proof ... .It's called critical thinking."

Sounds like something Trump, in his senescence, or Vance, in his preening arrogance, would say. Well done!

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-09-19 12:30 PM | Reply

It's called critical thinking, you should try it sometime.

#24 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

I have. Which is why I am calling you out on your false accusations of corruption in an attempt to deflect from the fact that a republican is indicating that Trumpy is lying (again) and is worse for Springfield Ohio right now than 20,000 legal immigrants.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 12:31 PM | Reply

It's called critical thinking,

It's called sloth and ignorance, and they make quite the combination in the hands of an imbecile like yourself.

Over the last few years, many immigrants from Haiti have settled in Springfield, Ohio, drawn by the low cost of living and plentiful jobs.

Thousands of new jobs had been created there, thanks to a successful effort by the city's leadership and Chamber of Commerce to attract new business to Springfield, which sits between Columbus and Dayton. Once a manufacturing hub, Springfield saw its economy shrink after factories closed and jobs migrated overseas. By about 2015, its population had dwindled to under 60,000, from about 80,000 in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Companies that set up shop, however, confronted a dire labor shortage.

Haitians in Florida, Haiti and South America heard from friends and family about Springfield and its need for workers. They began arriving to take jobs in warehouses, manufacturing and the service sector, and employers urged the new workers to encourage other Haitians to join them.

What started as a trickle swelled to a surge after the Covid-19 pandemic, coinciding with deepening political and economic instability in Haiti after the assassination of the president in 2021. Some of the Haitians in Springfield have lived in the United States for many years and have permanent legal status, or green cards. Some crossed the southern border or flew directly to the United States over the last few years.

Many are beneficiaries of Temporary Protected Status, a federal designation that gives nationals of a country in crisis - typically after a natural disaster or political upheaval - the opportunity to remain in the United States legally, regardless of whether they entered the country lawfully.

The Biden administration granted Temporary Protected Status through Feb. 3, 2026 for Haitians who arrived in the United States on or before June 3, 2024, and that status can be renewed. Haiti is one of a number of countries whose nationals can qualify for TPS, including Ukraine, which was invaded by Russia and is at war.

Some of the Haitians in Springfield have applied for asylum, which allows them to remain in the country until their case has been adjudicated by immigration authorities. Still others have been aided by a Biden administration initiative that enables people from Haiti who have a financial sponsor in the United States to apply to enter the country and remain here legally for two years. They do not receive green cards.

www.nytimes.com

#27 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-19 12:38 PM | Reply

the parole program actually reduced the number of migrants coming into the U.S.
- TonyRoma

This is obviously speculation.

The program allows 30,000 a month.

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-19 12:40 PM | Reply

The program allows 30,000 a month.

#28 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

How many legal immigrants do you think are reasonable to allow?

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 12:48 PM | Reply

"I don't have any proof ... .It's called critical thinking."

Sounds like something Trump, in his senescence, or Vance, in his preening arrogance, would say. Well done!

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-09-19 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag

Well I did a little looking at the FEC and I did find that the so called "republican' mayor donates money to democrats.

He made two donations to this democrat, this guy en.wikipedia.org(Ohio_politician) and I should note, that there are no donations from him to any republicans.

Critical thinking. Try it.

#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 12:54 PM | Reply

This is obviously speculation.

No it isn't if you listen to Trump repeatedly saying that millions of undocumenteds enter under Biden's open border policies. 360,000 is not anywhere close to even one million annually, is it?

Back in March, Donald Trump said 15 million migrants had crossed the United States border over two years.

By August that number was down to 10 million since President Biden took office, then back up to 15 million.

In more recent rallies, it's topped 20 million.

www.newsweek.com

Can't keep up with the narrative, huh?
From October 2020 through last month, there have been 10.6 million "encounters" by border patrol officers, with over eight million of those happening at the southwest border with Mexico. Between 2017 and 2020, the four years of Trump's presidency, that number was just over three million.

An encounter, as defined by the CBP, includes people attempting to enter the country or apprehended trying to cross the border without inspection, either crossing between ports of entry or arriving without an appointment or proper documentation.

The latest statistics from the Census Bureau, released early September, showed the share of the U.S. population, both legal and illegal, rose by three million between 2020 and 2023. The total immigrant population was thought to be 47.8 million, which includes the millions of immigrants living and working in the U.S. with legal status.

That number, which is lower than estimates laid out by the bureau in 2017, has not been the one used by Trump in his recent speeches. At one point during his debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, the former president claimed 21 million were crossing the border every month.

Latest monthly figures for August 2024 showed that around 58,000 people were encountered by CBP officers, down 68 percent year-over-year.

Receipts Oneiron. Try bringing some to our next discussion.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-19 01:07 PM | Reply

If a city has 22% unemployment and citizens are moving out because they can't find work, what economic theory do you use to import tens of thousands of unskilled workers?

#21 | Posted by visitor_

Why are you angry at the immigrants who arrived to keep the town alive, instead of at the republicans who moved their corporations to china?

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-09-19 01:08 PM | Reply

Well I did a little looking at the FEC and I did find that the so called "republican' mayor donates money to democrats.

Not that I believe it matters because he is still a republican ... no matter who he donated to ...

But being as I don't trust your understanding of what "critical thinking" is I would prefer the link to the FEC and not a link to a long list of people named "Charlie Wilson" with no proof of any donations by anyone. So I can decide for myself.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 01:19 PM | Reply

If a city has 22% unemployment and citizens are moving out because they can't find work

More Visitor BS from Russian disinformation.

What's behind the rise of Haitians in Springfield?

Thousands of new jobs had been created there, thanks to a successful effort by the city's leadership and Chamber of Commerce to attract new business to Springfield, which sits between Columbus and Dayton. Once a manufacturing hub, Springfield saw its economy shrink after factories closed and jobs migrated overseas. By about 2015, its population had dwindled to under 60,000, from about 80,000 in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Companies that set up shop, however, confronted a dire labor shortage.

Haitians in Florida, Haiti and South America heard from friends and family about Springfield and its need for workers. They began arriving to take jobs in warehouses, manufacturing and the service sector, and employers urged the new workers to encourage other Haitians to join them.

Springfield has struggled to handle soaring demand placed on health care, housing, schools and roads.

Some initiatives already underway include offering English language classes, driving courses and instruction about finances and the U.S. banking system.

Gov. Mike DeWine announced last week that the state would provide Springfield with $2.5 million to ease strains on primary health care and would deploy members of the state highway patrol to improve road safety.

The mayor of Springfield, Rob Rue, said that he was still hoping to receive federal assistance.

Springfield Ohio's unemployment rate thru the years. anyone with eyes and a brain with notice that the city during the period of growth started in 2015 there has only been a brief period during mid 2020 where Springfield's unemployment rate spiked at 16.5 % and dropped down to 5.5% by November.

Never trust a liar who refuses to support their data with links.

#34 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-19 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dems use poor people and criminals as their base. They don't serve them, or actually help , but they use them. They foster them and promote them and then claim to help them. They want the open borders so it gives them more of the same while they steal jobs from citizens. Democrats are opportunists solely for political power and they have neither interest nor ability to help others. They see their job as controlling politics solely to make people poorer, and make more Dem cities towns and states consistently poorer and criminalized hell holes. They pay people not to work and then bring in illegal immigrants to push down wages.

#35 | Posted by Robson at 2024-09-19 01:44 PM | Reply

#35 | Posted by Robson

Which party just voted down an immigration bill because their cult leader wanted the problem to remain until the election?

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-09-19 02:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's called critical thinking, you should try it sometime.

You have two brain cells left fighting over third place.

#37 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-09-19 03:47 PM | Reply

Which party just voted down an immigration bill

They voted down THEIR OWN IMMIGRATION BILL because dear leader demanded they make fools out of themselves by kissing his ring.

#38 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-09-19 03:48 PM | Reply

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 01:19 PM | Reply | Flag
Go to friends of charlie wilson at the FEC on the right, there's a search bar with parameters.. Type in Robert Rue if you want to see it for yourself.

Screw critical thinking, you need to repeat the 3rd grade.

#39 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 04:52 PM | Reply

Screw critical thinking, you need to repeat the 3rd grade.

#39 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

They would certainly never understand you.

"Go to friends of charlie wilson at the FEC on the right"

I went to your link. It's a wiki page. Listing a whole bunch of "Charlie Wilson's". There is no link labeled "friends of Charlie Wilson" on the right.

Third graders could probably have sourced a reference to their arguments with a better link than that.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 05:06 PM | Reply

Never trust a liar who refuses to support their data with links.

#34 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Or ones that send you on a wild goose chase.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 05:09 PM | Reply

Most Americans don't care how many immigrants are admitted to our country as long as they are capable, have character, are self sufficient and can easily relate with our culture.

The problem is many Democrats don't even have that in common with most Americans. They can't define a woman or gender and they believe they alone get to decide what is important culturally. The truth is in a free land each of us should get to decide what we believe, not the politicians or bureaucrats..

#42 | Posted by Robson at 2024-09-19 06:04 PM | Reply

#42 | POSTED BY ROBSON

These ChatGPT bots are easy to spot.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-19 06:11 PM | Reply

Never trust a liar who refuses to support their data with links.
#34 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Like when Trump tells you he's going to deport immigrants?

People like you trust that all the time.......

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2024-09-19 06:16 PM | Reply

After what he did to immigrant children last time you'd be a fool not to believe him.

#45 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-19 06:18 PM | Reply

They can't define a woman or gender and they believe they alone get to decide what is important culturally. The truth is in a free land each of us should get to decide what we believe, not the politicians or bureaucrats..

#42 | Posted by Robson

Whines about people living their lives how they want, NEXT SENTENCE - wants americans to be free.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-09-19 06:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Like when Trump tells you he's going to deport immigrants?

People like you trust that all the time.......

At times, I'm shocked of your naivete. Haven't you learned your lesson from doubting the overturning of Roe?

It's not Trump that I'm listening to, it's those around Trump that he empowers, who've already drawn up plans to do just that.

Stephen Miller: Seal the border, deport all the illegals'

"The simple part is seal the border, deport all the illegals," Stephen Miller told an audience at the 2024 Conservative Political Action Conference.

"You get in; you have two policy objectives that you proceed with utter determination on: seal the border, no illegals in, everyone here goes out. That's very straightforward," Miller said.

"You deputize the National Guard to carry out immigration enforcement. And then you also deploy the military to the southern border, not just with a mission to observe but with an impedance and denial mission," Miller said. "In other words, you reassert the fundamental constitutional principle that you don't have a right to enter into our sovereign territory to even request the asylum claim. The military has the right to establish a fortress position on the border and to say no one can cross here at all.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

#47 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-19 06:49 PM | Reply

Whines about people living their lives how they want, NEXT SENTENCE - wants americans to be free.

#46 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

That's one very confused chatbot.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 07:12 PM | Reply

#40 @Donnerboy

www.fec.gov

#49 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 07:16 PM | Reply

www.fec.gov

Source name Recipient Election State Receipt date Amount
RUE, ROBERT E FRIENDS OF CHARLIE WILSON GENERAL OH 06/30/2006 $500.00
RUE, ROBERT E FRIENDS OF CHARLIE WILSON PRIMARY OH 08/22/2005 $250.00

#50 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 07:29 PM | Reply

Fkking ------

#51 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 09:12 PM | Reply

@#51 ... Fkking ------ ...

So, ya got nothing?

That is , besides an ad hominem attack?

Good to know.



#52 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-19 09:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So, ya got nothing?

He's an empty barrel, that's for sure.

#53 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-19 09:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#53 ... He's an empty barrel, that's for sure.

It certainly does appear to be that.

Unable to pull two neurons together to post a coherent comment.


#54 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-19 09:37 PM | Reply

It certainly does appear to be that.

Unable to pull two neurons together to post a coherent comment.

#54 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-09-19 09:37 PM | FLAG:

You can't pull up a .gov website and prove me wrong but somehow I'm the moron? Did you fall and hit your head while in your mom's care? Don't answer that

#55 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 10:32 PM | Reply

He's an empty barrel, that's for sure.

#53 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2024-09-19 09:32 PM

Did you read the link, ------? Apparently you and your constituents are too stupid to look it up. I helped you. Lmao

#56 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-19 10:34 PM | Reply

@#55 ... You can't pull up a .gov website and prove me wrong ...

The purpose of my comment (#52) was not to prove your current alias wrong.

It was a comment on the nature of response your current alias proffered.

Do try to keep up.

That aside.

Yeah, I did see, and visit, the fec.gov links your current alias posted.

What I did not see was how the content of those links have any revelation to your current alias' posts.

Posting random links does not necessarily justify an opinion.

So... what else does yer current alias got?




#57 | Posted by lamplighter at 2024-09-19 10:47 PM | Reply

Do try to keep up.

Impossible. Too slow.

#58 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-19 10:50 PM | Reply

@#58 ... Too nslow. ..

I'm not there yet.

I would say, however, maybe too oriented towards spouting the MAGA cult indoctrination.


#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-19 10:55 PM | Reply

You guys are ---------.. Too Dumb to Know it.

Robson is inarticulate and half baked but not Stupid. He's probably young.

You Old Men don't have, That Excuse.

Robson is also Right about Nobody having a Monopoly on what's Culturally Important.

Something both Ends of the Spectrum think is Not So...

#60 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-09-19 11:59 PM | Reply

Robson is inarticulate and half baked but not Stupid. He's probably young.

I've always assumed he's some kid that posts the stuff his dad yells at the TV.

#61 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-20 12:07 AM | Reply


@#60 ... Robson is inarticulate and half baked but not Stupid. He's probably young. ...

And your current alias has determined it is qualified to assert that determination ... why?


#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-20 12:26 AM | Reply

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