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Trump picks RFK Jr. , anti-vaccine activist, for Health and Human Services secretary

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#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-14 04:43 PM | Reply

More from the cited article...

... During his presidential campaign, Kennedy developed a national profile for his criticism of the Covid vaccine and childhood immunizations. He has claimed that vaccines are tied to autism, despite evidence conveyed through studies over decades that have disproven such a claim. ...

Meanwhile, cases of measles are increasing significantly, a four-fold increase from 2023 to 2024, as vaccination rates drop.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-14 04:56 PM | Reply

Taking fluoride out of drinking water-shakes head in disbelief

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-14 05:00 PM | Reply

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski

Trump didn't appoint RFK Jr because he believed he was the most qualified person to run Medicaid, Medicare, NIH, FDA, ACA, HRS, Children & Families, etc, with the largest budget in the govt.

He appointed him because he wanted his endorsement at a critical time.

That is it.

This is only reason why RFK Jr is being put in charge of public health in the US. Trump was desperate to get him to drop out and endorse him. That's why American health is in the hands of a kooky conspiracy theorist with a background even worse than Gaetz.

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#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-14 05:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is this right up there with Gaetz or what?

These Gifts just keep on Giving... Swing Voters are going, 'WTF did we DO!?'.

Brainworms For Everyone!!

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-14 05:05 PM | Reply

First choice for Health & Human Services was Hannibal Lector.

#6 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2024-11-14 05:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

He's Testing Congress with these last few picks, daring them to not confirm the appointments and thereby receive the wrath of Lord Donald the Old and Obese... and, as and Coulter mentioned, "stupid".

And if there is one Congress can that make an inept Carnival out of the Proceedings, it's the one that gave us Mike Johnson.

The WH though, is taking a lot of the Best Idiots from the House and the Rwing Media and making sure this Circus is Entertainment... which is, apparently, what they voted for; a 1984-ish Soap Opera of Incompetents and Fools.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-14 05:25 PM | Reply

Is this right up there with Gaetz or what?

I'm actually quite surprised. Lewzer actually doing something he said he was going to do.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-14 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Grade-A trolling by Hair Furor.

This is primo stuff!

#9 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-14 05:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

These are like Vanity Picks for Trump... like Vanity Wives almost.

It shows what he thinks he can get away with. And that will be a lot, even if not everything he wants right away. But like he says, he's got another term or three in mind.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-14 05:32 PM | Reply

These are like Vanity Picks for Trump... like Vanity Wives almost.

Should we start a pool on which of this first batch of draft picks gets fired first?

I'm betting Susie Wiles. Lewzer's first Chief of Staff barely lasted six months. And she's just not hot enough. I'll say replaced by Hope Hicks before the end of next year.

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-14 05:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is absolutely absurd.

American's love of proud ignorance is coming home to roost and by the time people are miserable and dying and tired of it it will be too late to do anything about it.

Thanks MAGA ---------. GFY.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-14 07:40 PM | Reply

RFK Jr.

"We're {the federal government's research programs} are going to give drug development and infectious disease research a break for like 8 years and switch all research to chronic disease"

So, magat scum, how do you feel about research just stopping on infectious diseases? Like no more flu vaccine or shingles vaccines or pneumonia or MRSA or covid vaccines? We got out of the last pandemic because we were able to develop a vaccine. What happens when the scientists who have devoted their lives to finding cures for this stuff just leave. What happens next pandemic?

This is just out and out madness

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-14 07:49 PM | Reply

This is literally going to kill millions, ---- not having a flu vaccine will kill 10s of thousands every ------- year.

Fuvking magat scum.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-14 07:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

not having a flu vaccine will kill 10s of thousands every ------- year.

That's a good start. But not impactful enough.

We need people dropping dead in the streets in order to convince antivaxxers to shut up and stop spreading their misinformation.

America will go through an era of ignorance before corse correcting.

Probably not in our lifetimes.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-14 08:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Course correcting. ***

(Of course)

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-14 08:32 PM | Reply

-------

that is so freaking cute..

if you're 12 years old and still trying to light farts.

#17 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-14 11:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

agolf -------.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-14 11:31 PM | Reply

Have we reached terminal stupidity yet?

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-15 12:21 AM | Reply

Have we reached terminal stupidity yet?

Empty G still needs a home.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-15 12:56 AM | Reply

And Kari Lake.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-15 12:57 AM | Reply

MTG didn't get homeland security?

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-15 01:04 AM | Reply

MTG didn't get homeland security?

Nope. Kristi "Dog Shooter" Noem got that one.

#23 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-15 01:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Did she at least eat that dog?

I hear that's protocol.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-15 01:26 AM | Reply

Kari Lake.

I prefer her sister, Ricki Lake.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-15 01:29 AM | Reply

If the heroin addict gets confirmed he could kill off more MAGAts than Epstein's wingman.

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-11-15 05:36 AM | Reply

The Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse has just been selected.

#27 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2024-11-15 08:14 AM | Reply

Maybe he'll pick Jim Cramer to run Treasury?

Oh wait... wrong network.

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-15 08:36 AM | Reply

just have Bobby wear a dress and call himself Roberta and you cowards

wouldn't dare say one word about his qualifications.

#29 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-15 09:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What a Trump-empowered RFK Jr. could do on health care (November 3, 2024)
www.axios.com

... Former President Trump's plan to let Robert F. Kennedy Jr. "go wild" on federal oversight of food and medicine could have real and serious consequences.

Why it matters: Even in an informal role, Kennedy could help diminish some of the most functional parts of the health care system, potentially leading to increases in preventable disease.

Driving the news: Kennedy recently said in a Zoom organizing call that Trump has promised him "control of the public health agencies," including HHS, CDC, FDA, NIH and the USDA.

- - - Trump transition co-chair Howard Lutnick told CNN's Kaitlan Collins on Wednesday that Kennedy won't be the HHS secretary. ...

[emphasis mine]

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 02:24 PM | Reply

@#29 ... his qualifications. ...

In your view, just what are his qualification,?

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 02:26 PM | Reply

RFK Jr. Has Power to Worsen Flagging US Vaccination Rates
www.bnnbloomberg.ca

... The world is trying to figure out how much Robert F. Kennedy Jr. can do to limit vaccine use. It turns out, quite a lot.

If confirmed by the Senate to become Secretary of Health and Human Services in the next Trump administration, Kennedy will influence leadership and staff choices at agencies that develop, approve, recommend, distribute and stockpile vaccines. Accounting for about a quarter of the federal budget, HHS has pervasive reach into the lives and health of all Americans. ...


#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 02:42 PM | Reply

Just as an aside, research how one gets a brain worm. It AIN'T from eating a healthy diet
We are doomed

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-15 02:47 PM | Reply

It only takes one

#34 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-11-15 02:54 PM | Reply

Jr. slams the bloated orange pedo's disgusting diet.

www.usatoday.com

#35 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-11-15 05:31 PM | Reply

@#35

OK, time to ask...

Mr RF Kennedy Jr is a lawyer.

Some background ...

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
en.wikipedia.org

... After growing up in the Washington, D.C. area and Massachusetts, Kennedy graduated from Harvard University and obtained his Juris Doctor degree from the University of Virginia School of Law. He began his career as an assistant district attorney in New York City.

In the mid-1980s, he joined two nonprofits focused on environmental protection: Riverkeeper and the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC).[5] His work at Riverkeeper set long-term environmental legal standards. At both organizations, Kennedy won legal battles against large corporate polluters. ...

Since 2005, Kennedy has promoted anti-vaccine misinformation[9] and public-health conspiracy theories,[10] including the scientifically disproven claim of a causal link between vaccines and autism. The preservative Kennedy bases his claims on has not been used in childhood vaccines since 2001.[11] Kennedy has described his position as advocating for medical freedom and raising concerns about government overreach in public health matters, though public health experts and fact checkers have widely criticized this framing.[12][13] Since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, he has emerged as a leading proponent of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation in the United States.[14][2] Many of his often false public health claims have targeted prominent figures such as Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Joe Biden. He has written books including The Real Anthony Fauci (2021) and A Letter to Liberals (2022). ...

After his father's death, Kennedy struggled with drug abuse, which led to his arrest in Barnstable, Massachusetts for cannabis possession at age 16,[27][28] and his expulsion from two boarding schools: Millbrook and Pomfret.[29][30] During this time, some in the Kennedy family regarded him as the "ringleader" of a pack of spoiled, rich kids who called themselves the "Hyannis Port Terrors," engaging in vandalism, theft, and drug use.[31][32]

At Harvard, Kennedy continued his experimentation with heroin and cocaine, often with his brother David, earning a reputation that has been described as a "pied piper" and "drug dealer."[33][34] ...




#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 08:04 PM | Reply

@#36 ... At both organizations, Kennedy won legal battles against large corporate polluters. ...

So, how does that fit into the goals of the admin of Pres-elect Trump?


#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 08:05 PM | Reply

So, how does that fit into the goals of the admin of Pres-elect Trump?

I don't think environmental protection is in his current portfolio. I could be wrong.

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-15 08:13 PM | Reply

@#38 ... I don't think environmental protection is in his current portfolio. ...

Nor do I.

Which is why I posted that comment.

So, then, what is in his current portfolio that substantiates his nomination to HHS Secretary?


Does he have any medical education on his resume?


#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 08:23 PM | Reply

So, then, what is in his current portfolio that substantiates his nomination to HHS Secretary?

He's a Lewzer Lackey. That's all that is required. These lackeys were not nominated to run their departments, they were nominated to destroy them.

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-15 08:28 PM | Reply

@#40 ... He's a Lewzer Lackey. That's all that is required. ...

Yup.

Trump opts for personal ties and TV chops in choosing his team
www.reuters.com

... In staffing his incoming administration, President-elect Donald Trump has so far veered from the conventional to the confounding. But his choices all seem to have one thing in common: A bond with Trump himself.

From his chief of staff to those he's tapped to lead the Justice Department, the Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security, Trump is picking people who have been familiar faces at his campaign rallies, frequent visitors to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida or reliable defenders of him on TV.

It's a sharp contrast from his first go-round in the White House, when Trump, then a neophyte Republican politician, ended up with members on his team with whom he had no prior working relationship and no level of trust.

For Trump 2.0, the president-elect is rewarding his staunchest allies with plum roles. Some have almost no relevant experience for their positions, and a few could face a difficult Senate confirmation process even with a Republican majority. ...

[emphasis mine]


#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 08:35 PM | Reply

Hulk Hogan for NASA admistrator!

#42 | Posted by TenMile at 2024-11-15 09:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#42 ... Hulk Hogan for NASA admistrator! ...

Yeah, that would be awesome.

Tearing apart a t-shirt is so qualifying for that position.

#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-15 10:04 PM | Reply

#13 | Posted by truthhurts

You overstate things a bit.

Like no more flu vaccine or shingles vaccines or pneumonia or MRSA or covid vaccines?

Annual influenza vaccines aren't really due to new research. They're the same production system every year that makes a call somewhere around late spring (in the northern hemisphere) based on what's circulating in the southern hemisphere and Asia/Australia. There's actually a fairly predictable route strains of influenza move across over time.

The other ones already exist in some form except MRSA. There's no vaccine for that as far as I know, but I fully acknowledge I could be wrong.

If I'm to be entirely blunt, I'd say the golden age of vaccine research looking for vaccines against current diseases is largely over. Candidates for major global illnesses like Dengue haven't done well in trials and vaccines against things like RSV target an ever smaller pool of effected people, unfortunately. It's hard to gain support for a treatment without a major market.

We got out of the last pandemic because we were able to develop a vaccine. What happens when the scientists who have devoted their lives to finding cures for this stuff just leave. What happens next pandemic?

We did. However, mRNA vaccines aren't without their own set of issues that make them a hard sell (IMO) for long term use. They're great for emergency use or, even more excitingly, personalized medicine for things like cancer vaccines. In fact, I insisted that my family and I get the Novavax vaccine (non-mRNA vaccine) this year for multiple reasons.

Currently, "leaving" means going to industry. The talent will remain, it will just rust, if you will. There are other hurdles far larger that RFK might affect.

More to the RFK point, a lot of companies have already switched gears to what he's talking about. Years ago. He's just saying what's already happening as if he's going to cause it.

For instance, a hot topic now is treating obesity and diabetes with GLP-1 antagonists. Cell therapy (ie CAR-T cells) have shifted from cancer treatment to autoimmune syndrome treatment.

Chronic diseases haven't been ignored, they're just harder to puzzle out than RFK leads one to believe.

Nor are they as simple as remove red dye #5 from the food stream.

But then again, when you're a grifter, truthfulness isn't really you're thing.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-16 03:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

The left criticizing RFK jr as anti-science.

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#45 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-16 05:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It only takes one

#46 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-11-16 09:12 PM | Reply

It only takes one

#46 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-11-16 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's what your mom said, and then she didn't want to leave.

#47 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-16 09:37 PM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2024-11-14 05:01 PM | REPLY | here' somrthing you are obvioiusly unaware of.......

The current biden HHS Secretary is a lawyer, and career politician - not a doctor or scientist -- so what's your point?

#48 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-11-17 01:09 PM | Reply

not a doctor or scientist

Also not a kook.

#49 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-17 01:35 PM | Reply

#48 Her only points are what Ron Flipshisbeno says on X.

#50 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-11-17 03:15 PM | Reply

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