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Russian President Vladimir Putin has said Russia should have launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine earlier and been better prepared for the war.

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â¡ï¸Putin says full-scale invasion of Ukraine should have been 'earlier,' adds he's open to meeting Trump. In a marathon press conference lasting over four hours on Dec. 19, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that a full-scale invasion of Ukraine should have begun 'earlier.'

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-- The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) December 19, 2024 at 9:04 PM

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... Russia should have launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine earlier ...

So Pres Putin admits that it was an invasion of a sovereign country.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-20 07:47 PM | Reply

"I should have Invaded Ukraine Earlier, Putin tells Russians in TV Marathon"

He is correct. Going full-bore in 2014 while they were invading Crimea, before the Ukrainians had a chance to build up their defensive capability, would have been the way to go. Not like the Western nations would have done anything about it.

Heck, even now Europe is standing around with their hands in their pockets letting Poohty Pants bring in North Koreans. Will serve them right when Russia decides to roll over them.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2024-12-20 09:42 PM | Reply

Putin is correct. Instead, he chose the muddy season.

Ding-a-ling, ling, ling.

#3 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-12-21 06:23 AM | Reply

Mass murdering psychopath says what?
He and Trump will have so much to talk over when Putin invades...sorry, is invited, to Trump's White House.

#4 | Posted by Hughmass at 2024-12-21 06:26 AM | Reply

HUGH

Mr. Putin has wanted "his" man in the White House for years.

Finally, FINALLY, his wish came true. However, it has turned into "be careful what you wish for."

It's highly unlikely that Trump will be able to convince the Senate to withdraw the U.S. from NATO and open the door (vis-a-vie Ukraine) to Russia's military expansion into Eastern Europe.

Trump's only choice is to withdraw U.S. support of Ukraine and, at the same time, abandon U.S. NATO allies in Eastern Europe based on one "trumped up" excuse or another.

It's a dangerous move that will isolate the United States in a modern world economy, all of whom depend on joint cooperation agreements to survive.

In the past, America and our NATO allies looked out for each other.

If Trump and Russia have their way, nobody will be looking out for America. All trust will be gone.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-12-21 08:24 AM | Reply

Norks welcomed to Kursk with festive drones.

crooksandliars.com

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-21 08:43 AM | Reply

It's highly unlikely that Trump will be able to convince the Senate to withdraw the U.S. from NATO and open the door (vis-a-vie Ukraine) to Russia's military expansion into Eastern Europe.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-12-21 08:24 AM | Reply

Explain how that math works given that the Russian military production is currently set back 35 years and climbing.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-21 09:39 AM | Reply

Explain how that math works given that the Russian military production is currently set back 35 years and climbing.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg

If Donald gives Putin Ukraine then it's not a question of war production. It's a question of simple weasling.

Putin will have incentives to just throw meat waves at Poland like he does now.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-21 09:48 AM | Reply

Russian military production is currently set back 35 years and climbing.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Russia has lost its war, if not for Donald.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-21 09:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Actually, the first blow will be against Estonia.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-21 09:50 AM | Reply

Re 10

I am thinking Moldavia is next. And so is Moldavia.

But Estonia is definitely on the list. As is Latvia and Lithuania.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-21 11:37 AM | Reply

There's no reason why Russia can't attack multiple countries at once. What he really wants is to show a big display of force and for them to concede.

If not, Trump will provide Russia with all the heavy armament and missiles he needs . . . on the cuff.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-12-21 12:23 PM | Reply

Right. The EU outside of that doesn't exist. Go count the Russian armor depots and tell me how their broad, multinational offensive is supposed to work.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-21 06:10 PM | Reply

Putin should have invaded the Ukraine when Trump was the president.

He would've had a flawless victory.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-21 06:14 PM | Reply

CLOWN

I'm guessing that Trump convinced Mr. Putin that overturning the election was a sure thing.

That's on Putin for believing a compulsive and obsessive liar.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-12-22 12:50 AM | Reply

"He is correct. Going full-bore in 2014 while they were invading Crimea, before the Ukrainians had a chance to build up their defensive capability, would have been the way to go. Not like the Western nations would have done anything about it."

He also ceded Ukraine eight years of time in which they were able to develop a seething hatred of Russians. In 2014, Ukraine may not have cared about being a Russian puppet state.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-22 08:50 AM | Reply

nah, ukraine has hated russia since the chernobyl incident.

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-22 09:15 AM | Reply

Where's EFFORTTRAITOR to tell us all how great Vlad the Mass Murderer is and that is all the Jews fault he had to invade Ukraine? You know because Zelensky is Jewish and all that.

#18 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-12-22 07:49 PM | Reply


@#18 ... to tell us all how great Vlad the Mass Murderer is and that is all the Jews fault he had to invade Ukraine? ...

I should have invaded Ukraine earlier, Putin tells Russians in TV marathon
www.bbc.com
@#18 ... When asked by the BBC's Russia editor Steve Rosenberg whether he felt the country was in a better state than where his predecessor, Boris Yeltsin, had left it 25 years ago, Putin said Russia had regained its "sovereignty".

"With everything that was happening to Russia before that, we were heading towards a complete, total loss of our sovereignty." ...

OK, so, Pres Putin tacitly admits that he wants to restore the old USSR "sovereignty."


So, is Poland next?


#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-22 08:08 PM | Reply

#16 which Ukrainians? Be specific.

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-22 08:45 PM | Reply

So Pres Putin admits that it was an invasion of a sovereign country.
#1 | Posted by LampLighter

No gaslighter, please refer to the transcripts, not liberal state run media, utilizing contextomy.

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-22 08:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#21 ... please refer to the transcripts ...

Got quotes?

It is not up to me to do the research to substantiate your current alias' comments.

Post the quotes your current alias refers to.

thx.

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-22 09:00 PM | Reply

"There is no Ukraine": Fact-Checking the Kremlin's Version of Ukrainian History (2020)
blogs.lse.ac.uk

... The notion that Ukraine is not a country, but a historical part of Russia, appears to be deeply ingrained in the minds of Russian leadership.

Competing interpretations of history have turned into a key ingredient of the deepening dispute between Russia and the West and a subject that Putin in particular appears to feel unusually passionate about.

In this article, Dr Bjrn Alexander Dben explores the question, is it historically accurate to claim that Ukraine has never truly been a nation or state in its own right? ...



#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-22 09:02 PM | Reply

So Pres Putin admits that it was an invasion of a sovereign country.

It doesn't matter what he calls it. It was an invasion.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-22 09:07 PM | Reply

@#24 ... It doesn't matter what he calls it. It was an invasion. ...

Yup.


imo, there never was a dispute about that.

An invasion by Pres Putin of a sovereign country.



#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-22 09:11 PM | Reply

An invasion by Pres Putin of a sovereign country.

And Lewzer is going to end it a month from now.

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-22 09:18 PM | Reply

Go count the Russian armor depots and tell me how their broad, multinational offensive is supposed to work.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Are we counting the empty ones? Or do they at least have to have hulls of cannibalized vehicles?

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-22 09:22 PM | Reply

@#27 ... Are we counting the empty ones? ...

My question ... is Russia using up (a.k.a., losing) it's wartime equipment more quickly than it can replace it?

Analysis: Russia's War Economy Is Hitting Its Limits
foreignpolicy.com

... Key weapons are running out as Moscow tries to mobilize ever more labor and resources. ...

Signs that the official data masks severe economic strains brought on by both war and sanctions have become increasingly apparent.

No matter how many workers it tries to shift to the defense industry, the Kremlin cannot expand production fast enough to replace weapons at the rate they are being lost on the battlefield.

Already, around half of all artillery shells used by Russia in Ukraine are from North Korean stocks. At some point in the second half of 2025, Russia will face severe shortages in several categories of weapons.

Perhaps foremost among Russia's arms bottlenecks is its inability to replace large-caliber cannons. According to open-source researchers using video documentation, Russia has been losing more than 100 tanks and roughly 220 artillery pieces per month on average.

Producing tank and artillery barrels requires rotary forges -- massive pieces of engineering weighing 20 to 30 tons each -- that can each produce only about 10 barrels a month. Russia only possesses two such forges. ...



#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-22 09:56 PM | Reply

"Heck, even now Europe is standing around with their hands in their pockets letting Poohty Pants bring in North Koreans."

How are they supposed to do anything about that, any more than Putin bringing in conscripts from the Eastern part of the Russian Federation?

#29 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-12-23 08:12 AM | Reply

> "Heck, even now Europe is standing around with their hands in their pockets letting Poohty Pants bring in North Koreans."

How are they supposed to do anything about that, any more than Putin bringing in conscripts from the Eastern part of the Russian Federation?
#29 | Posted by sentinel

They can, for example, put 100,000 of their own troops into Ukraine (in non-combat roles to free up Ukrainian troops for the front lines). To show Poohty that escalation will be met with escalation. Or not. It's the security of their nations most at risk, and much like my feeling on abortion rights after 43% of women voted for Trump, I'm beginning to care less about how people who are cavalier with their rights and obligations, are affected.

#30 | Posted by censored at 2024-12-23 09:24 AM | Reply

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