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Saturday, March 29, 2025

The New York Times Editorial Board thinks the Democratic Party needs a serious wake-up call. In a new editorial, the liberal outlet declared that the party is in a state of denial about why it lost the presidency, as well as the Senate and the House in 2024, and said its proposed solutions for getting back on track are delusional as well. "As comforting as these explanations may feel to Democrats, they are a form of denial that will make it harder for the Democratic Party to win future elections," the board said in the Saturday piece.

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According to the outlet, the party has turned to a "convenient explanation for their plight," namely that forces beyond its control, like "postpandemic inflation" hurt its chances, as well as the fact that they just need to message better. "If Democrats could only communicate better, particularly on social media and podcasts, the party would be fine," the board stated, summarizing part of their denial.

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Good.

imo, the Democratic Party needs a wake-up call in some areas. Good for the NYTimes Editorial Board to call them out on that. ('tis a shame Mr Bezos seems to no longer allows such OpEd content on his newspaper after meeting with Pres Trump. ...)

The results of some very recent special elections seem to be showing that the Democrats are answering and taking heed of that call.



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-29 07:58 PM | Reply

The dems lost due to 1 reason.

The moral bankruptcy of a sizable portion of the American electorate.

They chose a rapist over a normal human being.

They delusionally thought the economy sucked.

They voted for a man screaming about people eating dogs who has concepts of a plan

They believed that Project 2025, which the backers of ------- have been working on for years would somehow not be implemented.

No, it was not the message, the messenger or the venue for the message.

It was because a sizable portion of the American electorate lack basic morals, basic rationality, basic critical thinking.

THAT is the thing that must be solved.

There are 2 ways that can be solved

1. a long term and concerted effort to instill in Americans the values of empathy, rationality and common sense.

2. a huge catastrophe like a world war or massive depression resulting in such trauma that it snaps people out of their ethical stupor while purging society of the most incalcitrant morons.

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-29 08:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

@#2 ... The dems lost due to 1 reason. ...

That may be why the Dems lost in 2024.

But, the focus should be looking forward.

How can they win in 2026 and 2028?

... There are 2 ways that can be solved ...

I'll discount your #2 reason. That' is not something I would want to see in order to win an election.

But your #1 is good. I'd add one other item to the list ... common values and wants.

(OK, that may be considered to be two items ... :)   )

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-29 09:06 PM | Reply

Dems lost because the GQP has had a media plan since the days of openly racist drug addict Rush LimpDork. They cornered the market on AM talk radio, where you heard the same talking points pushed out from every show everyday. It was like brainwashing for stupid people. I worked in rural AM radio back then, and our reichwing station was on in every business, every combine and tractor and pickup truck in the county. That model continued with Faux Spews and the lesser Fauxes, same talking points from show to show to show day after day, with bright patriotic graphics, laser sweeps, and bottled blonde bimbos and it is on in so many waiting rooms, hotel lobbies, airports, and military bases. They have brainwashed people to believe they are "news" when in fact they're propaganda. That 40+ year project means they have cornered the market on politically biased programming and we no longer have a common set of facts. We have facts, and the GQP's alternative facts, which are lies. Dems need a media project of their own, podcast networks, radio and TV. Poll after poll shows the majority of people agree with Dems on most major issues, yet people who watch Faux have no idea what is really happening and where the major parties stand. Had Americans believed the warnings about Project 2025 and their plan to dismantle the government and in particular SS, Medicare, and Medicaid the GQP would have been curb stomped like what's happening to Combover Quisling's popularity on EVERY ISSUE.

#4 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2025-03-29 09:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

You all lost because you're retarded, and you all think if you act more retarded, you'll win. Great strategy

#5 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-03-29 09:25 PM | Reply

Yeah, but you see Lamp, we are past the event horizon, we have lost. People are deluding themselves to think the 2026 elections will save us. Those elections will likely be unfair and the results contrary to the administrations wants just thrown out. I read somewhere that 3 to 4 million people simply do not have a passport or birth certificate and up to 40 million may not. These are voters. How on earth can that be resolved in the next 18 months?

We are in a regressive period that will last decades. Liberal democracy has lost.

The destruction being wrought is irreversible.

The infrastructure for the type of renaissance I reference in #1 simply does not exist. Magat scum have seized the controls.

They are dismantling the very fabric of what would have an iota of uniting us.

They are dismantling education, and we will no longer have a common sense of America.

They are undermining or outright seizing control of any all aspects of society where resistance can foster-colleges, the legal profession, the media.

They are building the system to imprison agitators; they are laying the groundwork for the stripping of basic rights from all Americans.

The EOs coming out of this administration are mind boggling in their scope, their outright corruption and their outright unconstitutionality (nay ANTI-constitutionality) at a speed which Americans cannot keep up with.

I am afraid the simple truth is that it is way too late for the normal solutions to work. They simply can't. Last November's election was the last longshot

We either acquiesce or we fight, violently.

That is what history teaches us of moments like this.

The regressive revolution is WAY ahead of us. Most Americans don't even understand it is happening. I listen to educated, savvy political experts who STILL express surprise at what is happening. Not me, none of this surprises me-I read Project 2025, I am a student of history, I pay attention to what ------- and the people around him say. I am an amateur studier of human behavior.

And we are only 60+ days in!

Remember Project 2025 is only a plan for the first 6 months of this administration. That is the break it phase. What will follow is the consolidation phase where resistance will systematically be crushed. That means disappearing protestors, impeaching or ignoring judges, violent suppression of protests. AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE HELPS THEM ACHIEVE THEIR AIMS AS IT WILL BE DECLARED AN EMERGENCY. Honestly, they have already started that with the targetng of law firms, the media and large corporations. Ex. Why do you think they picked a petty fight with the AP over the Gulf of Mexico? It was to create the precedent. Why do you think they ignored judges orders and spirited people to El Salvador-precedent. They then up the ante with arresting and deporting legal residents for no justification-precedent. They joke about sending people keying Teslas to El Salvador-to make it "reasonable" when they do it to a citizen over some real or manufactured outrage.

The groundwork is being laid for a dictatorship.

THESE PEOPLE IN POWER DO NOT BELIEVE IN LIBERAL DEMOCRACY, THEY BELIEVE IN A FORM OF NOBILE RULE.

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-29 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You all lost because you're retarded, and you all think if you act more retarded, you'll win. Great strategy

#5 | Posted by fortfisher

Will you ever comprehend the damage to your own life?

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-29 09:43 PM | Reply

It was inflation that did the Dems in, like it did for every other incumbent party in the world last year for the first time in history.

Democrats Join 2024's Graveyard of Incumbents
www.edwardconard.com

The fact that Biden and his enablers hid his condition from the public until the last possible moment didn't help.

#8 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-29 10:05 PM | Reply

You all lost because you're retarded, and you all think if you act more retarded, you'll win. Great strategy

#5 | Posted by fortfisher

Will you ever comprehend the damage to your own life?

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-29 09:43 PM |

If you don't hurry up and off your miserable self, you're going to make me loose the suicide pool. Although it will be cheating I'll help if you're scared.

#9 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-03-29 10:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I don't know how Democrats appointed Jasmine Crockett as the unquestioned leader of your party, but thank God.

Jasmine Crockett will learn no lessons from the "Hot Wheels" episode because the Left's angry mobs eat this stuff up. Trust me: the unquestioned head of the Democratic Party thinks is a winning vector. pic.twitter.com/egtZIbPyDV

archive.is

She's litreally hitlerrr!

#10 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-29 10:55 PM | Reply

Look at you calling for someone to kill themselves.

You don't even realize how lost you are.

Sad, really

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-29 10:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Peak TDS is driving away the normie dems

Hey who's going out to #killtesla tonight? Good luck with that!

#12 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-29 10:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

TDS has you MAGAt losers waddling around in diapers. Daddysfist, when are you going to make the list?

docs.google.com

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-29 11:01 PM | Reply

Itchypuss is a Trump Devotion Syndrome victim.

Sad.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-29 11:04 PM | Reply

via GIPHY

#15 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-03-29 11:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

@#6 ... Liberal democracy has lost. ...

Great comment. thx.

I chose that one phrase I quote for a reason.

If I may rephrase it ...

Democracy has lost.

Not Liberal Democracy, but Democracy.

Liberals don't have an ownership of Democracy.

Democracy is owned by all Americans.

My question then becomes, why do Republicans seem to be so willing to give up Democracy for unfettered adulation of their cult leader?


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-29 11:07 PM | Reply

This heinous twunt is the face of the GQP.

i.imgur.com

#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-29 11:08 PM | Reply

#16
JFC you read all that?!

#18 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-29 11:42 PM | Reply

#17
archive.is
Really, Hitler? You're going to waste my time and archive.is bandwif with this?

Let me ask you- Who's blowing stuff up right now? untreated TDS sufferer leftists or 'GQP'?
Show me something (in this country) your 'GQP' has blown up.

#19 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-29 11:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#19 ... Really, Hitler? You're going to waste my time and archive.is bandwif with this? ...

I note that all your current alias seemed to do was complain, but offered nothing to counter the comment it replied to.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-30 12:13 AM | Reply

@#18 ... JFC you read all that?! ...

Yes, I did.

Just like I read all of your current alias' comments.

Thought, I do have to say...

After reading the #6 comment I learned something.

But when I read the comments your current alias posts, I can almost feel my intelligence draining out of my ears.


Stated differently, and less humorously, do try harder.

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-30 12:17 AM | Reply

@#19 ... Show me something (in this country) your 'GQP' has blown up. ...

J6.

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-30 12:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Daddysfist, this is what you repug ---------- are capable of.

www.npr.org

#23 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-30 12:38 AM | Reply

@#23

Sometimes, as I read current comments here on this most august site, I have to wonder ...

Why have the prior pro-Trump current aliases seemed to have all but disappeared, while new pro-Trump current aliases seem to be abundant of late?

Could it be possible that the troll room(s) behind those old pro-Trump current aliases have established new aliases?

I wish I knew.


#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-30 01:53 AM | Reply

Sundays - Here's Where The Story Ends (1989)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
[Verse 1]
People I know, places I go
Make me feel tongue-tied
I can see how people look down
They're on the inside

[Refrain]
Here's where the story ends
...


#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-30 01:58 AM | Reply

Is that where this story ends?

I wonder ...

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-30 01:58 AM | Reply

How did I know that an article about Dems denial, would be met with Dem denial.

If it weren't sad, it'd be hilarious.

#27 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-03-30 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

---- off ------.

#28 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-30 11:54 AM | Reply

well of course with that well reasoned response, you're definitely winning hearts and minds

#29 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-03-30 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You don't have a mind to win, --------. And we know Republicant scum are all heartless traitors.

#30 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-30 03:25 PM | Reply

The NYT is a "liberal outlet"?

Since when?

Anyone who believe this is so far out into the rightwing hemisphere that moderate news sources are considered "liberal".

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-30 03:35 PM | Reply

Jasmine Crockett will learn no lessons from the "Hot Wheels" episode because the Left's angry mobs eat this stuff up.

*itchyP jumped for joy when Trump mocked a reporter with Cerebral Palsy.

But "hot wheels" is unacceptable!!

Also. He's not too happy with the fact she's Black and female.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-30 03:51 PM | Reply

Will you ever comprehend the damage to your own life?
#7 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Damage?

All our MAGA contributors are multimillionaires who spend their time with us here on the DR.

They're all going to be just fine once Trump privatizes SS and Medicare.

BlueWaffles would have been rich had BushJr done it!

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-30 03:54 PM | Reply

the focus should be looking forward.

How can they win in 2026 and 2028?
#3 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

You definitely can't do it by attacking and abandoning the people you depend on for votes.

Newsom is finding that out the hard way.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-30 04:02 PM | Reply

The Democrats lost because they ran on a platform that the US people DO NOT WANT. No amount of shaming people will make them take another bite of the ---- sandwich the Dems served up under Biden. No amount of lying about inflation will make people believe their stories when they go shopping and see the actual bills. No amount of bragging about your foreign policy chops will make people forget the Afghan debacle or the fact that Russian invaded Ukraine with a week of Kamala going to defuse the situation. No amount of pardons issued for your crack addict kid will convince them that he was innocent. No amount of shaming will force normal people into exposing their kids to transgender brainwashing. No amount of shaming will convince parents that their daughter should compete in sports vs. biological males. No amount of shaming can convince US citizen that we need open borders and fentanyl flooding the country.

And the biggest reason - the more people interact with the government - whether that be the public schools, or the DMV - the more they realize how incompetent it is. And with Dems fighting to give the government workers no-show, work from home jobs - normal people don't want to continue to pay for it.

#35 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-03-31 04:58 AM | Reply

The dems lost due to 1 reason.

The moral bankruptcy of a sizable portion of the American electorate.

The bloated orange pedo tapped multiple veins of resentment in the US....

Misogyny
Racism
Transphobia
Wokeness

But what it came down to was the fact that wages have not kept up with inflation. This is not new. It has been happening ever since the GOP destroyed unions in the 70's. Cheap energy in the 80's and 90's hid the fact that wages were not keeping up due to outsourcing, right to work and union busting.

It was very easy to pin that on migrants who are willing to work and scrape by on minimum wage jobs that corporate america needed filled.

The democrats don't see that anger. They think by saying the GDP grew by X amount will placate the masses. It won't. America wants real change away from the plutocracy it is now.

It is hard to get people to believe they are better off as corporate america creates ever new methods to shift the cost of employment onto the workers. Pensions replaced by 401ks. Health insurance replaced by HMO's and then replaced with high deductible plans that drain the paychecks of workers and still leave them unable to afford to get sick. Instead of $10 copay from an HMO on a prescription, you get to chose to pay the first $7000 out of pocket or 50% or 40% or 60% of the retail cost of the prescription. But wait... you can now take up to $7000 from your paycheck to cover the high deductible AS WELL AS the increased insurance premiums lost in the word salad of bronze, silver and gold plans.

Fat nixon sold them the bill of goods that he was going to bring the cost of rent, food, gas, homes, etc without telling them how. The media when they asked about how would get a ten minute rambling explanation that ended up with talking about Hannibal Lecter from sundowning grandpa befuddlepant.

The people were dumb enough to believe him a second time.

Now the real pain is coming.

#36 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-31 07:46 AM | Reply

Trans issues sunk the Democrats party. Eject the trans nazis and you guys might have a chance. Deep down inside, you moderate dems know I'm right.

#37 | Posted by boaz at 2025-03-31 08:54 AM | Reply

Trans issues sunk the Democrats party. Eject the trans nazis and you guys might have a chance. Deep down inside, you moderate dems know I'm right.

#37 | Posted by boaz

Do you think the thousands of Americans who are serving their country should be insulted by the Sec. of Defense and booted from the armed forces? An act btw that will likely cause even more problems to these Americans? American who did NOTHING wrong?

Do you think that is right?

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-31 09:03 AM | Reply

-The dems lost due to 1 reason.

people need things simplified to the point they believe such tripe.

There is no way on earth it's due to 1 reason. 15 reasons minimum.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-31 09:06 AM | Reply

Because I know Boaz will deny that happened, here is the receipt

www.documentcloud.org

"It is the policy of the United States Government to establish high standards for Servicemember readiness, lethality, cohesion, honesty, humility, uniformity, and integrity. This policy is inconsistent with the medical, surgical, and mental health constraints on individuals with gender dysphoria or who have a current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria."

He said transgenderism is inconsistent with honesty and integrity.

Fellow Americans who CHOOSE to serve their country and put their lives on the line for the rest of us.

Just more vile behavior by magat scum.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-31 09:07 AM | Reply

Poof boaz disappears (is my prediction)

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-31 09:07 AM | Reply

"There is no way on earth it's due to 1 reason."

Bigotry is a good enough reason for me. That captures Trans, Muslims, illegals, Black President, Woman President.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-31 09:08 AM | Reply

-Trans issues sunk the Democrats party.

that's on issue that didn't help...but I think it was specifically the sports participation portion. Many democrats were (deep down) against biological men competing in women's sports. It was cringing.

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-31 09:08 AM | Reply

And Snoofy just can't help but keep proving the title of the thread to be right.

#44 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-03-31 01:29 PM | Reply

Bigotry is a good enough reason for me. That captures Trans, Muslims, illegals, Black President, Woman President.

#42 | Posted by snoofy

Don't forget the Asians!

#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-31 01:34 PM | Reply

THESE PEOPLE IN POWER DO NOT BELIEVE IN LIBERAL DEMOCRACY, THEY BELIEVE IN A FORM OF NOBILE RULE.
#6 | Posted by truthhurts

Elite Democrats literally tried to shove an unelected candidate on the American people.

#46 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-31 01:37 PM | Reply

but I think it was specifically the sports participation portion
-eberly

Pretty much, that and inflation.

#47 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-31 01:38 PM | Reply

Fellow Americans who CHOOSE to serve their country and put their lives on the line for the rest of us.
- truthhurts

Virtue signalling again.

#48 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-31 01:38 PM | Reply

Virtue signalling again.
#48 | POSTED BY 1LUMPYTRUMPER

What would a selfish person like you understand about virtue?

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-31 01:41 PM | Reply

Elite Democrats literally tried to shove an unelected candidate on the American people.

#46 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Republicans literally tried to overthrow the 2020 elections and you all are still whining about WINNING the 2024 elections?

Maga maroons talk about denials ... Meanwhile Republicans still cannot openly admit that Biden won the 2020 elections for fear of being primaried from the right

Seriously. GFY

#50 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-31 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"My transphobia began when I watched The Crying Game and remembered a night in Seoul with what I thought was a beautiful woman ..."

- BOAZ the transphobe

PS - Republicans use issues that don't affect the vast majority of Americans to elect GOP politicians who couldn't care less about the lives of average Americans and are shills for corporations and wealthy individuals who only care about taxes.

#51 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-03-31 03:39 PM | Reply

"Second, Democrats should recognize that the party moved too far left on social issues after Barack Obama left office in 2017,"

Been saying that since 2016. America was not going to vote for our first Woman President, on the heels of our first Black President.

Don't underestimate how much America hates women.

Black Men got the vote a half century before White Women.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-31 04:08 PM | Reply

"My transphobia began when I watched The Crying Game and remembered a night in Seoul with what I thought was a beautiful woman ..."
- BOAZ the transphobe
#51 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Wait, is this legit? Interesting if true, and would explain much. Also, it would be sexual assault

Transgender man Tarjit Singh who tricked women into sexual relationships jailed for 10 years
Singh, of Enfield, north London, was convicted of three counts of assault by penetration, six counts of assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and one count of making a threat to kill, after a trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court earlier this year.
news.sky.com
But I don't know whether it would qualify as legitimate rape according to the GOP, so Boaz might be out of luck if he tried to prosecute.

#53 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-31 07:27 PM | Reply

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