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Thursday, February 29, 2024

Mark Joseph Stern: In a stunning move, the justices all but guaranteed that the former president will evade trial before November.

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e Biden should affirm Ytump's bogus theory on Presidential immunity and have Donald Trump murdered. Hey, what's good for thr goose is good for the gander. And hey, while he's at it there are some Supreme Court Justices who have already live past their proper ecpiration date.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2024-02-29 03:01 PM | Reply

Everyone look under your seats!

You get a new RV and YOU get a new RV and YOU get a new RV ...

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-29 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's talk about Trump, timelines, and trials....

Beau of the Fifth Column

www.youtube.com

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-29 03:51 PM | Reply

The supreme court has 3 justices that he personally appointed to a lifetime cake job that allows them to do whatever they want and never be held accountable for any of it and another whose wife aided him in the commission of a few felonies.

Can you imagine if this exact scenario was playing out in a place like Peru or Nigeria or whatever?

Eric Prince would be in front of Congress a few times a week, 87 senators and no less than 70% of the house would be ready to vote to authorize regime change so we could let freedom flourish.

#4 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-02-29 03:55 PM | Reply

Video courtesy of The Lincoln Project:

@ProjectLincoln

Just to be clear, Clarence Thomas will be deciding if Donald Trump has presidential immunity for attempting a coup that his wife, Ginni Thomas, helped plan.

Clarence Thomas is compromised.

twitter.com

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Didn't the prosecutor, Jack Smith, request SCOTUS take this up?

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-29 05:06 PM | Reply

If the supreme court determines the president is above the law, what is stopping biden from assassinating the conservative justices, trump, and all trump's minions in congress?

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-29 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Didn't the prosecutor, Jack Smith, request SCOTUS take this up?

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah 2 months ago. They waited 2 months to help trump.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-29 05:07 PM | Reply

what is stopping biden

The simple fact that he's not a lunatic?

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-02-29 05:08 PM | Reply

" Yeah 2 months ago. They waited 2 months to help trump.

#8 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2024-02-29 05:07 PM | FLAG: "

How long do you expect them to grant the request? 2 days before it's made?

If it's so critical that this case concludes during an election year why did the prosecutors wait so long to bring charges. January 6 happened over 3 years ago.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-29 05:13 PM | Reply

Didn't the prosecutor, Jack Smith, request SCOTUS take this up?

#6 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

If you are referring to the response where Jack Smith requested that -------- petition also act as a request for cert, what happened was the 2nd circuit issued their rock solid decision, ------- requested the SC issue a stay but did not ask for cert to review the decision, because he figured he could get denied and then ask for a cert so he could delay. Jack Smith said deny the request because it is ungodly stupid, but if you DON'T deny it just act like it is a request for a cert, which the court took him up on. Keep in mind 4 justices for a stay 5 justices for cert, i think.

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 05:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

6-3

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-29 05:41 PM | Reply

If it's so critical that this case concludes during an election year why did the prosecutors wait so long to bring charges. January 6 happened over 3 years ago.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Because merrick garland is a coward who is too worried about upsetting fascists to protect america from fascism. He likely thought Jan 6th would end trump's political career and the nation would go back to normal. Once again, dems screwed the country by not recognizing how evil and dangerous republicans are.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-29 05:45 PM | Reply

Well, it could go down like this:

Elie Mystal
@ElieNYC
Also, remember when people were saying it was worth it for the DC Circuit to take its time because that made it less likely that SCOTUS would hear the case at all?

It didn't.

People really have to stop treating the Republican SCOTUS as a good faith actor.

(((Dov Carnahan)))
@xtrixcyclex

The majority will hold"regardless of evidence--that in regards to Trump's 1/6 attempt to halt certification, that it falls within his executive authority to protect the integrity of elections.

We know from Kennedy v. Bremerton that this court makes up facts as needed.

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 06:26 PM | Reply

Democrats have to star running on the Supreme Court in the same way Republicans have for years now. Always remember that if Hillary had been elected president in 2016 none of this and I mean NONE of this would be happening now. Instead of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett, we would have had 3 liberals on the court:

Elie Mystal
@ElieNYC

There is *nothing* you care about that survives a 6-3 Republican court for a generation. Nothing.
I don't know how many times the Court has to prove that to people before liberals unify and act.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 06:57 PM | Reply

Comstock Act

Educate yourself.

It will be the power that ------- (the fraud and sexual predator) will use to ban abortion nation wide, even without congress.

Johnson will likely try to outlaw porn as well.

Educate yourself.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 07:54 PM | Reply

It will be the power that ------- (the fraud and sexual predator) will use to ban abortion nation wide, even without congress.

This is unlikely. I don't get the feelz Trump is fond of banning abortion.

"We're going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said. "And both sides are going to come together and both sides " both sides, and this is a big statement " both sides will come together. And for the first time in 52 years, you'll have an issue that we can put behind us."

Educate yourself.

LMAO Calm yourself..

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-29 08:03 PM | Reply


Always remember that if Hillary had been elected president in 2016 none of this and I mean NONE of this would be happening now. Instead of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett, we would have had 3 liberals on the court:

This is true, if only she took Wisconsin seriously.
www.jsonline.com

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-29 08:04 PM | Reply

#11 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

You sure??

Special counsel goes directly to Supreme Court to resolve whether Trump has immunity from prosecution

Smith's team has asked the court to review District Judge's Tanya Chutkan ruling that as a former president, Trump is not immune from the election subversion prosecution case brought in Washington, DC. Lawyers for the former president have argued that Trump's alleged actions over the 2020 election results were part of his official duties at the time and therefore he is protected by presidential immunity.
www.cnn.com

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-29 08:07 PM | Reply

@#17 ... I don't get the feelz Trump is fond of banning abortion. ....

That seems to be the view he has recently pivoted towards recently because he can read the polls.

But what will happen if he gains the Oval Office?

Will he continue to hold that view?

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 08:09 PM | Reply

#11 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS
You sure??

Yes, he's sure:

Supreme Court rejects Jack Smith's request for justices to quickly hear Trump immunity dispute
www.cnn.com

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 08:13 PM | Reply

Jonathan Mitchell-the author of Texas' SB-8 and Attorney for ------- in the Colorado case:

Mitchell has seemingly broadened his remit. "We don't need a federal ban [on abortion] when we have Comstock on the books,"

newrepublic.com

Who is Jonathan Mitchell??

en.wikipedia.org

If you don't think he is being primed for a top spot in -------'s 2nd administration you are a fool.

Here's the thing about -------. He doesn't care about anything. Mitchell and others will stroke his ego and he will start enforcing the Comstock Act.

Educate yourself.

BTW I will be quoting you a year or so from now.

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 08:13 PM | Reply

"I don't get the feelz Trump is fond of banning abortion."

--------.

Trump is so fond of banning abortion he lets the States do it.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-29 08:14 PM | Reply

Keep in mind that this case, as to whether ------- broke the law when he tried to overturn our government will be heard and decided on by a person who's wife is an unnamed co-conspirator.

god bless america.

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 08:16 PM | Reply

"We're going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said. "And both sides are going to come together and both sides " both sides, and this is a big statement " both sides will come together. And for the first time in 52 years, you'll have an issue that we can put behind us."
Educate yourself.
LMAO Calm yourself..

#17 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT

SCREAMING LOL!!!!

This from the guy who said we would have better healthcare for less cost and that he would pay down the debt quickly.

LOL

Face it, ------- has absolutely ZERO convictions. He serves only to feed his own ego. He gets played constantly by people who feed his ego.

He has little interest in the hard work of governing and will sign off on whatever is put in front of him. Call it the "------- Protects Women's Vaginas Executive Action" and he will sign it in a heart beat and have a stupid grin on his face the entire time.

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 08:21 PM | Reply

@#19

And SCOTUS immediately tossed one of the Trump lawyers' arguments.

SCOTUS now seems to have expanded the question before them, asking about alleged acts.

In my view, SCOTUS has done one or two things. ...

1) the Justices think that this will be a very significant decision, so they want to take the time to examine all possible aspects of the questions before them.

- or -

2) SCOTUS is allowing fmr Pres Trump to delay... delay... delay so that even after they render their opinion, the trial will not occur before a possibly-reelected Trump can squash the case.

Two more items...

1) SCOTUS in the Gore-Bush case acted quickly, much more quickly than they acted here.

2) Here is the question SCOTUS has asked the sides to discuss...
abcnews.go.com

... The question the court will focus on is "whether and if so to what extent does a former president enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office," according to Wednesday's order. ...

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 08:23 PM | Reply

Nixon case heard and decided within 2 weeks.

Gore v Bush heard and decided within like 4 days.

This is delay to after the election pure and simple.

The question really should be "Should the American people have the opportunity to know whether the person they are voting for is a convicted felon?" prior to election.

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 08:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"We're going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said. "And both sides are going to come together and both sides " both sides, and this is a big statement " both sides will come together. And for the first time in 52 years, you'll have an issue that we can put behind us."

If he meant that, all his pro-life supporters would immediately abandon him. They aren't because he doesn't. He is just saying that now because he knows anti-Dobb voters will come out against him big time and could cost him the election. He is trying to pull off a bait and switch when it comes to abortion. I hope like hell most American voters don't fall for it.

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 08:32 PM | Reply

"We're going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it," Trump said. "And both sides are going to come together and both sides " both sides, and this is a big statement " both sides will come together. And for the first time in 52 years, you'll have an issue that we can put behind us."

This concept is that the states with a MUCH higher population will have to give up MAJOR abortion access in a bid for "compromise". If the Democrats did that, ---- em.

States with 100,000,000 people will dictate abortion rights in states with 230,000,000

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 08:41 PM | Reply

GalHoliday,

I disagree. I believe he has a very similar opinion about abortion I do.

RvW was a perfectly good solution. Congress should pass a bill codifying it.

The abortion debate is similar to the immigration debate. The extremists control the narrative. Trump, I believe is pragmatic. Hillary is pragmatic, so was Obama.

Biden is ideological

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-29 08:41 PM | Reply

SC#30 1Lumper2 he has bragged about killing Roe by appointing 3 very conservative justices to the t who did just that. He is on the record as saying women who get abortion should be punished:

Trump: Some form of punishment' needed for abortion
www.cnbc.com

He welcomed the support of pro-life Catholics and Evangelicals who believe life begins at conception, hence the no exceptions rules and the notion that frozen embryos are children and can't be destroyed. Now that he sees the backlash a majority in the country have to Dobbs and the Alabama IVF ruling, coupled with GOP electoral losses since the Dobbs ruling came out, he is trying to back track on the issue and take a more moderate stance. Like I said, I hope the American people don't fall for his current bait and switch on the topic.

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 08:52 PM | Reply

@#30 ... I believe he has a very similar opinion about abortion I do. ...

And his current opinion matters... why?

He has shown to proffer opinions that he subsequently ignores.

imo, the big question here is not whether or not you agree with his opnion, but whether or not you think he will continue to hold that opinion should he win the Oval Office?

Or is this current opinion of him just a way to get into the Oval Office, his hope that people will believe his lies?


Candidate Trump on golf:

February 4, 2016
I love golf... but if I were in the White House ... I'd just want to stay in the White House and work my ass off.

March 14, 2016
If you're here at the White House, and you have so much work to do, why do you fly? Why do you leave so much?

August 6, 2016
I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to have time to be playing golf.

August 25, 2016
I won't be playing golf.


Trump Has Spent $115 Million On Golf Trips Or 287 Years Of Presidential Salary (2019)
www.huffpost.com

... With his Thanksgiving vacation, President Donald Trump's golf hobby has now cost Americans an estimated $115 million in travel and security expenses -- the equivalent of 287 years of the presidential salary he frequently boasts about not taking.

Of that amount, many hundreds of thousands -- perhaps millions -- of dollars have gone into his own cash registers, as Secret Service agents, White House staff and other administration officials stay and eat at his hotels and golf courses. ...




So... why should we believe him?

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 08:54 PM | Reply

Okay, to be fair, Trump walked back his statement about punishing women, but notice what he says, "I am pro-life with exceptions." Now suddenly he is talking about finding some number of weeks or months everyone can agree on? Nope, that isn't what he ran on in 2016 and governed on while he was in office:

Later in the day, his campaign released a statement refocusing who would be punished should abortion become illegal. "If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman," the statement said. "The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed--like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions."

www.nbcnews.com

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 08:59 PM | Reply

@#33 ... Later in the day, his campaign released a statement refocusing ...

Woof, that looks like a major walk-back from his campaign advisers.

I do note that in his current fmr Pres Trump seems to have actually capable people running his campaign this time. That's probably why the released statement with so many disclaimers.

But to the point of my comments here, will those campaign guard-rails matter if fmr Pres Trump regains the Oval Office?

From what I have seen, policy is dictated by fmr Pres Trump towards others. Opinions do not seem to flow in the other direction.

Indeed, if you are working for fmr Pres Trump, one of the riskiest things it appears you can do for your job is disagree with him.



#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 09:15 PM | Reply

GalHoliday,
I disagree. I believe he has a very similar opinion about abortion I do.
RvW was a perfectly good solution. Congress should pass a bill codifying it.
The abortion debate is similar to the immigration debate. The extremists control the narrative. Trump, I believe is pragmatic. Hillary is pragmatic, so was Obama.
Biden is ideological

#30 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAU

Oh so much to unpack

------- has no opinion about abortion-if he knocked someone up, they would get an abortion after signing an NDA, he has zero thoughts beyond that.

He has NO convictions.

I keep asking but never get a satisfactory answer. What authority does Congress have to regulate abortion? Dobbs said abortion is not a right. What authority does congress have to regulate it?

Hint, NONE.

As for ------- working with congress, I have to ask.

What legislative achievements did ------- achieve in his 4 years of office? Obama did ACA, Biden did infrastructure and the IRA.

What legislation, especially one as complicated as dealing with abortion, did ------- get passed?

Trump is not pragmatic. He is a madman who thinks will conquers all. To be a pragmatist he would have to believe in reality. His pragmatism got a million Americans killed.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 09:21 PM | Reply

Trump is pragmatic in the sense that he wants to win the election, and he--or more accurately his campaign team--realize being anti-abortion this time around will cost him many voters, especially women voters, including white suburban soccer moms. He needs those voters, so he has to moderate his position on abortion, which pragmatically he is now attempting to do.

#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 09:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"From what I have seen, policy is dictated by fmr Pres Trump towards others. Opinions do not seem to flow in the other direction."

That is incorrect. ------- is lazy and does not want to do the hard work of governance. Thus, he outsourced the appointment of judges to McConnell and Leonard Leo. ------- takes the last thing said to him and runs with it like it is gospel. That and seeking reinforcement of what he wants and ignoring reality-example look at the meeting he had about the covid vaccine with the heads of the various pharmaceutical companies. He wanted a date which they would be available. the Pharma reps kept telling him one way or another it was impossible, testing needed to be done, safety had to be measured-there were hard timelines on when a vaccine could be ready-------- kept saying "ok so you are saying it will be ready by June 1", No Mr. President we are saying stage 1 of trials will be done my mid summer. ------- replies "Ok so you are saying the vaccine will be ready by June 1" I am paraphrasing a bit, but the essential truth is there.

He will UNDOUBTEDLY outsource the implementation of abortion restrictions. He will have sycophants and radical white christian nationalist with hard right religious agenda surrounding him. The mature Republicans won't be anywhere around. People like Jonathan Mitchell will be there saying here sign this and poof abortion is gone.

You think ------- is going to spend hours learning about the female reproduction system? Peeshaw!

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 09:28 PM | Reply

Trump is pragmatic in the sense that he wants to win the election, and he--or more accurately his campaign team--realize being anti-abortion this time around will cost him many voters, especially women voters, including white suburban soccer moms. He needs those voters, so he has to moderate his position on abortion, which pragmatically he is now attempting to do.

#36 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Somewhat true, but pragmatism takes discipline, which ------- lacks. Occasionally he is on script (i.e. after Iowa caucuses), but most frequently deranged (i.e. after NH).

One thing Dems should be doing is baiting him endlessly, especially on the mental fitness angle. that gets under his skin and results in some of his funniest gaffes.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-29 09:31 PM | Reply

One thing Dems should be doing is baiting him endlessly, especially on the mental fitness angle.
#38 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Absolutely. Democrats are going to have to do it because MSM isn't. Why in the world are journalists focusing on Biden's age while ignoring incomprehensible drivel like this?:

Republicans against Trump
@RpsAgainstTrump
Donald Trump on the border crisis:

"People are pouring over. It's sort of known as Steak Mountain. Steak Hill. Snake. Snakes ... a lot of snakes ... rattlesnakes ... "

twitter.com

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 09:36 PM | Reply

I won't be playing golf.

LOL. Now do "Executive Orders"... that was another good one.

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-02-29 09:38 PM | Reply

Hillary is pragmatic, so was Obama.
Biden is ideological
#30 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Complete nonsense.
Biden is the biggest incrementalist we've had in generations.
Biden is ruthlessly pragmatic.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-29 09:44 PM | Reply

Trump is pragmatic in the sense that being two-faced is pragmatic if it gets you what you want.

A good adjective for Trump is Machiavellian.
Another good one is Opportunistic.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-29 09:46 PM | Reply

@#40 ... Now do "Executive Orders"... that was another good one.

You do it. :)

Here's another fun one...

...
Candidate Trump, July 21, 2016
"We will honor the American people with the truth, and nothing else."
...


False or misleading statements by Donald Trump
en.wikipedia.org

... During and after his term as President of the United States, Donald Trump made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of 6.1 per day.[2] ...

#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 09:47 PM | Reply

One thing Dems should be doing is baiting him endlessly, especially on the mental fitness angle.
#38 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

It won't be hard to do. Once again listen to this incomprehensible drivel:

Tea Pain
@TeaPainUSA
Sounds like Trump is speakin' one of them languages right here.

Acyn
@Acyn

Trump: People who don't speak languages. We have languages coming in to our country, nobody that speaks those languages. They're truly foreign languages. Nobody speaks them

twitter.com

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 09:54 PM | Reply

You do it. :)

Fine.

Trump had tweeted: "Why Is @BarackObama constantly issuing executive orders that are major power grabs of authority?" That criticism continued once he entered the presidential race. "The country wasn't based on executive orders," Trump said at a South Carolina campaign stop in February 2016. "Right now, Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can't even get along with the Democrats, and he goes around signing all these executive orders. It's a basic disaster. You can't do it."
Then he signed 220 of them.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-02-29 09:55 PM | Reply

@#36 ... Trump is pragmatic in the sense that he wants to win the election, ...

Pragmatic?

I've not yet seen that aspect in him.

... and he--or more accurately his campaign team--realize being anti-abortion this time around will cost him many voters, especially women voters, including white suburban soccer moms. ...

Yup, and Bingo.

imo, it is his campaign, and not fmr Pres Trump's pragmatism that is driving this change. His campaign is trying to get him to say ~the right things~ to accomplish what your comment notes.

Will his campaign team be successful in the long term?

Time will tell...



#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 09:59 PM | Reply

@#44 ... Once again listen to this incomprehensible drivel: ...

I especially enjoy when fmr Pres Trump, at the end of one of his diatribes, asks, "am I making sense?"

And he gets applause.

#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 10:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Then he signed 220 of them.

Which was, just for trivia, 80% of President Obama's total.

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-02-29 10:01 PM | Reply

@#45 ... Fine. ...

thx.

:)

#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-29 10:02 PM | Reply

I especially enjoy when fmr Pres Trump, at the end of one of his diatribes, asks, "am I making sense?"
And he gets applause.
#47 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

No one wants to be the one to say, no. Just like no one wanted to tell the emperor they couldn't see his new clothes.

#50 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-29 10:14 PM | Reply

80% of President Obama's total, in 50% of the time?
Advantage: Trump.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-29 10:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Time to start watering the tree of Liberty.

#52 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-02-29 10:42 PM | Reply

Mmm mmm mmm that shot sandwich is coming ...

Oh and Legally, you can start with yourself first.

#53 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-03-01 01:20 AM | Reply

e Biden should affirm Ytump's bogus theory on Presidential immunity and have Donald Trump murdered. Hey, what's good for thr goose is good for the gander. And hey, while he's at it there are some Supreme Court Justices who have already live past their proper ecpiration date.

#1 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2024-02-29 03:01 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Nice, calling for the assassination of the past president and a few supreme court justices. Affirms the old phrase: The Democratic party, the party of weak men and angry woman.

#54 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-03-01 12:14 PM | Reply

Annnnd... the hyperbole make a sonic boom as it flies right over FishP's tiny little head.

(either one)

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-01 12:16 PM | Reply

" Supreme Court rejects Jack Smith's request for justices to quickly hear Trump immunity dispute"

Are you suggesting the court has an obligation to adhere to every demand made by Democrats?

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 12:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Supreme Court rejects Jack Smith's request for justices to quickly hear Trump immunity dispute"

Are you suggesting the court has an obligation to adhere to every demand made by Democrats?

#56 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

Would our nation be better served if the voters know whether the republican presidential nominee has been criminally held accountable for trying to overthrow the government before he is given a chance to protect himself from any accountability for those crimes?

#57 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 12:47 PM | Reply

" Supreme Court rejects Jack Smith's request for justices to quickly hear Trump immunity dispute"

Are you suggesting the court has an obligation to adhere to every demand made by Democrats?

#56 | Posted by BellRinger

That's not a demand made by democrats.

It's a request made by an intelligent person who thinks the issue should be resolved before the election.

The supreme court wants to delay it so that the voters don't know what they're voting for.

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-03-01 12:55 PM | Reply

Are you suggesting the court has an obligation to adhere to every demand made by Democrats?

#56 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-03-01 12:42 PM | REPLY

If this was Obama you would be demanding justice pronto. That's a fact Jeff. Funny that be.

#59 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-03-01 01:07 PM | Reply

Jack Smith made the request and the court acquiesced. You all should be happy

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 02:16 PM | Reply

You should be happy.

You'll get to vote for Trump again come November.

For the third time.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-01 02:21 PM | Reply

The court is not going to rearrange their entire docket to make tinge politically favorable for Democrats.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 02:22 PM | Reply

How much do you want to bet there was a phone call between the conservative SC justices and Trump similar to the call Trump made to the Georgia Sec of State asking to delay certification?

This reeks of corruption.

Trump has all his eggs in winning the election and changing this country's foundation.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-01 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jack Smith made the request and the court acquiesced. You all should be happy

#60 | Posted by BellRinger

The court gave trump a 2 month delay for no reason. Which is why you're happy.

#64 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-03-01 02:32 PM | Reply

Jack Smith made the request and the court acquiesced. You all should be happy
#60 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You're dumb as ----. He asked SCOTUS to bypass lower courts on this issue in January and they said no. Then they waited for the circuit court, then they sat on the new cert request for 3 ------- weeks, then they scheduled argument 2 months out. This is not normal for an issue of this magnitude.

#65 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-01 02:39 PM | Reply

#65. There is nothing unusual about this. I get that you're sore that the court is t moist as fast as you want the. To purely for political reasons. If that's just too bad.

#66 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 03:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sorry for the incoherent post. I suck at posting from my phone and don't proof read that one.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 04:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#65. There is nothing unusual about this. I get that you're sore that the court is t moist as fast as you want the. To purely for political reasons. If that's just too bad.

#66 | Posted by BellRinger

Once trump attempted an unpredented coup, everything that followed was be definition also unprecedented and therefore UNUSUAL.

The supreme court can step in and act fast when they WANT to. Or they can delay to help a fascist traitor get re elected which is what they're doing.

#68 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-03-01 04:17 PM | Reply

In retrospect that post probably made more sense than ones I make that don't have a bunch of typos.

#69 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In retrospect that post probably made more sense than ones I make that don't have a bunch of typos.

#69 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

None of your posts make any "sense"

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 04:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is nothing unusual about this

The entire case is unusual because the acts giving rise to it never occur in the breadth, scope, and brazenness with which Trump committed them. And from a ballot-printing deadline standpoint alone, the issue of whether an accused insurrectionist can run for president is an issue of paramount importance and urgency.

#71 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-01 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We have seen SCOTUS hear arguments and rule on cases in a matter of days when they choose to do so. Faster than it even took them to grant cert here. Delay is a conscious choice and stop pretending it isn't.

#72 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-01 04:29 PM | Reply

February 28, 2024
April 22, 2024

will be milestones to a major historical event coming this fall/winter.

If ------- wins election in November, the SC will have to answer for this delay in adjudicating whether ------- is found guilty of attempting to overthrow the government prior to the electorate going to the ballot box.

If ------- loses election in November, there will be violence at a level not seen in America in quite some time, as ------- attempts to once again deny he lost the election.

2024 is looking to be an ugly year.

#73 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 04:31 PM | Reply

I wish I could give 71 10 newsworthy flags!

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 04:32 PM | Reply

According to Leah Litman, the latest that the SC could issue their decision and still reasonably have a trial START before the election is by the end of May.

Something I learned today is that (and forgive me for not getting the terms correct), but the SC worded this cert to allow even further delay. The 2nd Court of Appeals cannot release the case back to Chutkan upon the release of the decision by the SC but they have to wait for the WRITTEN decision (up to a 30 day delay). This is a seemingly innocuous thing but, this delay was intentionally put in there. Assuming the SC releases their decision June 30. Logically the 2nd could send the case back to Chutkan on the 1st of July, but NO. The SC could delay the written decision to say July 29 and only on July 30 could the 2nd release the case.

Chutkan said she needs around 80 days I think of pretrial, so that is 110 days from June 30 or October 18 as a trial START date meaning jury selection starts.

So, yeah the corrupt SC is acting Supremely Corrupt

#75 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 04:38 PM | Reply

#75 And most states have statutory deadlines for clerks to print ballots that fall somewhere in August/September to allow time for military ballots to be shipped overseas, etc.

If the issue is not resolved squarely, affirmatively and completely prior to those dates, Trump is on the ballot period. And by all accounts it will not be, regardless of the merits question of whether he is an insurrectionist.

Thanks, Republicans!

#76 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-01 04:40 PM | Reply

Jack Smith is pushing a novel legal theory in his pursuit of this case and has been doing everything he can to rush it to trial in time before the election. This was always going to be weird.

#77 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 04:41 PM | Reply

SCOTUS exists to apply the Constitution to the cases before it. It does not exist to deliver preferred political outcomes for Democrats.

#78 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-01 04:43 PM | Reply

#77 What is his theory and what makes it novel?

#79 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-01 04:45 PM | Reply

Republicans quaking in their boots over the prospect of having to vote for a non-insurrectionist for President is really something.

#80 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-01 04:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jack Smith is pushing a novel legal theory in his pursuit of this case and has been doing everything he can to rush it to trial in time before the election. This was always going to be weird.

#77 | Posted by BellRinger

It was NOVEL of trump to attempt to overthrow democracy.

IT would also be NOVEL to let him get away with it, like you and your cult would prefer.

#81 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-03-01 04:51 PM | Reply

SCOTUS exists to apply the Constitution to the cases before it. It does not exist to deliver preferred political outcomes for Democrats.

#78 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Does it exist to delay -------- trials to the point where the American people won't know whether he is adjudicated guilty for trying to overthrow the government?

Is that the role of the courts?

Isn't that a major question?

#82 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 04:57 PM | Reply

#75 And most states have statutory deadlines for clerks to print ballots that fall somewhere in August/September to allow time for military ballots to be shipped overseas, etc.
If the issue is not resolved squarely, affirmatively and completely prior to those dates, Trump is on the ballot period. And by all accounts it will not be, regardless of the merits question of whether he is an insurrectionist.
Thanks, Republicans!

#76 | POSTED BY JOE A

Don't worry Joe, Congress can figure out whether ------- is an insurrectionist (and legally allowed to be president) sometime between early November 2024 and January 21, 2025. Smooth sailing.

#83 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 04:59 PM | Reply

What will happen say, if ------- wins the electoral college but the HoR goes solidly blue.

What will happen say, if the Democrats refuse to certify any electoral ballots for an insurrectionist?

Do you think ------- will take that in stride? Should not that issue be addressed before the election?

#84 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 05:00 PM | Reply

Won't it be interesting if ------- chooses a co-conspirator as VP, say a Josh Hawley.

The democrats could throw out both president and VP ballots and elect Hakeem Jeffries POTUS.

Just saying.

Perhaps it would be better to figure all of this out ahead of time.

#85 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 05:04 PM | Reply

#85 Dem leadership doesn't have the balls to do anything like that, so nothing to fear. They've been bringing water guns to a nuke fight since 2015.

#86 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-01 05:12 PM | Reply

I think you might be surprised about that. I think if ------- wins there will be a lot of pressure on the dems to act. I know I know history has not shown the dems to do something like that but I can see post November to be truly unprecedented

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 05:17 PM | Reply

Think about it for a second. Say ------- wins, likely a very close election. There will be a non-stop screaming of INSURRECTIONIST and 14th Amendment Section 3!!!!

Then you've got Chutkan starting a trial say, mid-November only to be rendered moot 1/21/25.

It will be ugly.

And don't get me started on what happens should ------- lose.

IMO our nation's security demands that this issue be dealt with now.

But America is not good at proactively protecting itself.

Maybe ------- will die.

#88 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 05:21 PM | Reply

Then there will be the whole "can a President pardon himself", then you will have articles of impeachment drawn on 1/6/25 to impeach his insurrectionist ass.

Hey, maybe ------- will be in a NY prison by then, we can hope.

#89 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-01 05:23 PM | Reply

SCOTUS exists to apply the Constitution to the cases before it. It does not exist to deliver preferred political outcomes for Democrats.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-03-01 04:43 PM | REPLY

This has to do with Country not political parties you intentionally dishonest halfwit. If this were Obama you would be having a conniption fit if he incited an insurrection and then ran for POTUS four years later Jeff. You know it and we all know it here.

#90 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-03-01 07:30 PM | Reply

If this were Obama you would be having a conniption fit if he incited an insurrection and then ran for POTUS four years later Jeff. You know it and we all know it here.

This is beyond true and an understatement.

#91 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-02 08:17 AM | Reply

Putin is smiling at people like Danni.

#92 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-03-02 10:52 AM | Reply

SCOTUS exists to apply the Constitution to the cases before it. It does not exist to deliver preferred political outcomes for Democrats.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Trumpy's lawyers ( the Supreme Court) are just trying to help their client.

#93 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-02 12:25 PM | Reply

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