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Tuesday, March 18, 2025

According to The New York Times, DOGE has deleted hundreds of claims from its "wall of receipts" several times. This includes early March, when the agency erased $4 billion in additional savings it claimed to have made for taxpayers.

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Unsurprisingly, the DOGE boys who are supposedly investigating fraud are actually committing fraud. Here's their wall of receipts aka DOGE disinformation and lies.

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... According to the Washington Post, DOGE's plan to cut staff at the IRS by up to 50% would lead to a $400 billion increase in uncollected taxes over the next 10 years. This could lead to $2 trillion in losses.

Right now, the IRS fails to collect around $700 billion in taxes that are owed each year. The Quarterly Journal of Economics suggests that every dollar that is spent on auditing individuals in the top 10% of earners returns around $12.

However, the Treasury Department's inspector general has previously estimated that each hour spent auditing a high earner creates close to $5,000 more in tax revenue, according to The New York Times.

Tax season could also be a lot less efficient if these employees are cut. During the 2022 filing season, the IRS only answered less than 20% of the calls that they received. That was when the IRS had around 79,000 employees. The Trump administration is reportedly looking to cut it to around 50,000 employees.

DOGE impacts already being felt at IRS ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-15 06:25 PM | Reply

As bad as they are at the maths, they are even worse at hiding them.

This is costing money, not saving it.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-15 06:39 PM | Reply

Saving money isn't the point. Money isn't the point.

DOGE is about breaking the regulatory state. It's about lawless usurpation of Congressional powers. And the Repukes in Congress are complicit.

Appointed officials taking powers reserved for Elected officials is the point of DOGE the rest is windowdressing and BS.

The Republicans are dismantling our system to create a Police state unaccountable to anyone.

#3 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-17 08:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There's no way DOGE is revenue positive. Not after all the lawsuits and settlements.

Then there is the fact that top talent is more likely to cash in their chips and move to the greener pastures of the private sector. Resulting in a government that is not only smaller but less effective (which is the plan).

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 09:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Of course DOGE will lose more money than it saves.

And some of those purely qualitative things it destroys are not coming back for a while; and only coming back if MAGA is not around.

Among many other things, DOGE is creating a window of opportunity in which this country can be exploited, or physically attacked.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-18 09:55 AM | Reply

Will DOGE Lose More Money Than It Saves?

Do MAGAts ---- in the Capitol Rotunda?

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-18 09:59 AM | Reply

"Right now, the IRS fails to collect around $700 billion in taxes that are owed each year."

Liberal mindset, "why change a thing, it's working fine."

The IRS FAILED TO COLLECT $700 BILLION EACH YEAR!

It's pretty apparent that they have their heads up their a-s-s and need to be over hauled.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 12:02 PM | Reply

"Right now, the IRS fails to collect around $700 billion in taxes that are owed each year."

Liberal mindset, "why change a thing, it's working fine."

The IRS FAILED TO COLLECT $700 BILLION EACH YEAR!

It's pretty apparent that they have their heads up their a-s-s and need to be over hauled.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw

This might be the dumbest post of 2025.

I'm sure cutting their staff in half will help instead of adding agents like Biden wanted.

Fish, you are too stupid to be here...or anywhere really.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-18 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"In America, today, taxpayers are more likely to be audited if they live in the Mississippi Delta than if they live on Park Avenue," the official said.

"The president's plan would change this and really get at a fundamental element of fairness in the tax code " making sure that the taxpayers are paying the taxes they already owe."

federalnewsnetwork.com

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-18 12:08 PM | Reply

#7

Biden was attempting to close that gap. Trump is now dismantling those efforts. You might want to look into that.

#10 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-03-18 12:15 PM | Reply

"Right now, the IRS fails to collect around $700 billion in taxes that are owed each year."

Trump can surely get that up to a trillion, through mass layoffs at IRS.

Fun fact, my mom used to work at IRS. She knows COBOL better than Elon Musk and his lackeys.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 12:21 PM | Reply

Biden was attempting to close that gap. Trump is now dismantling those efforts. You might want to look into that.

#10 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-03-18 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag:
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He was "attempting" to do many things. And if he was doing such a great job why did your party throw him to the curb?

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 12:34 PM | Reply

This might be the dumbest post of 2025.

I'm sure cutting their staff in half will help instead of adding agents like Biden wanted.

Fish, you are too stupid to be here...or anywhere really.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-18 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Sure, lets just add more useless, lazy employees instead of upgrading the agency computers and getting better, smarter employees. Going by the Liberal playbook of just throwing more money that gets wasted at every problem got us to where we are right now. The American people said enough is enough. Your approval numbers are just above 25% right now. In other words you are being told to STFU.

#13 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 12:39 PM | Reply

He was "attempting" to do many things. And if he was doing such a great job why did your party throw him to the curb?

#12 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

President Biden accomplished a lot for America. Before Trumpy came along and destroyed everything he touched.

And Joe Biden "threw himself to the curb". He may have been influenced by the party but the decision was entirely his.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-18 12:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Will DOGE Lose More Money Than It Saves?

Ez pz.

The answer is clearly No.

Which is why you are not hearing any details or charges or court cases.

There will be no savings and we will never see the books.

Prove me wrong.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-18 12:48 PM | Reply

#14 Sure, Trump has been in office less than 2 months and Biden got pushed out, Schumer admitted it. Biden has said he would have beat Trump.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 12:50 PM | Reply

"The answer is clearly No."

Dang it. I hate that's when it happens.

The answer is clearly yes.

There will be no savings. DOGE is about revenge and retribution.

The purpose is not to save money the purpose is to destroy the foundations of our government and get revenge on any organization or individuals that has spoken out against Trumpy and his maga maroons and their hateful traitorous agenda.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-18 12:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

lets just add more useless, lazy employees instead of upgrading the agency computers and getting better, smarter employees.

What makes you believe anyone being let go is in anyway stupid?

Musk gutting the government is about giving himself a tax cut. Not about making anything more efficient.

Is it because the word "Efficiency" is in DOG"E"?

What a simple minded moron you are.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 12:53 PM | Reply

Biden got pushed out, Schumer admitted it.

You can't push out a president who is the head of the party by default.

Speculate all you want. The decision was Joe Biden's.

Believe whatever floats your boat maga maroon.

It probably saved his life. Not that you would care about the life of another American. Especially a Democrat.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-18 12:57 PM | Reply

I'm sure cutting their staff in half will help instead of adding agents like Biden wanted.

Fish, you are too stupid to be here...or anywhere really.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant
Sure, lets just add more useless, lazy employees instead of upgrading the agency computers and getting better, smarter employees. Going by the Liberal playbook of just throwing more money that gets wasted at every problem got us to where we are right now. The American people said enough is enough. Your approval numbers are just above 25% right now. In other words you are being told to STFU.

#13 | Posted by fishpaw

You obviously don't know how computers work. No surprises there.

They have smart, qualified employees. It takes a long time to go through all those records.

There is no evidence any of them are lazy.

There is evidence you are both lazy, uneducated, and stupid.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-18 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

DOGE isn't about saving money.

It's about cutting enough government expenses - jobs and programs Americans depend on - to pass a massive tax cut for the wealthiest people in America.

Republicans cheering this on are the type of people who would cheer cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What makes you believe anyone being let go is in anyway stupid?
#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 12:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Um,because they lost $700 billion a year?

#22 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 12:59 PM | Reply

There is no evidence any of them are lazy.

Reads more like FishPawn is projecting his own experience - being laid off for being too lazy - on to the hard working Americans being friend for Musk to get another tax cut.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:00 PM | Reply

because they lost $700 billion a year?
#22 | POSTED BY FISHPAWN

Who did and what are you basing this number on?

Are their records you can point to? Receipts?

Unlike you, FishPawn, I don't believe stupid conspiracies Republicans are making up in order to gut America.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:03 PM | Reply

-There is no evidence any of them are lazy.

we can assume some actually are lazy....but if you can't identify them, what's the point?

just assuming they are all lazy is a massive mistake.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 01:07 PM | Reply

You obviously don't know how computers work. No surprises there.

They have smart, qualified employees. It takes a long time to go through all those records.

There is no evidence any of them are lazy.

There is evidence you are both lazy, uneducated, and stupid.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-18 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag:
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What an intelligent post, you and Clown should get a padded cell together. I'm sure there aren't any lazy, unqualified employees out of the 90,000 they employ. Why don't you try calling them?

#26 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 01:07 PM | Reply

-There is no evidence any of them are lazy.

we can assume some actually are lazy....but if you can't identify them, what's the point?

just assuming they are all lazy is a massive mistake.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:
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If you can't respond to an email listing five things you did the last month you are lazy and unqualified.

#27 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 01:09 PM | Reply

I'm sure there aren't any lazy, unqualified employees out of the 90,000 they employ.

Wow. Way to go from "they're all lazy!"

To, "there's gotta be some lazy people!"

But hey. Let's fire 90,000 Americans and hope some of them were actually lazy.

FishPawn, you traded America for Trump.

You make Putin proud.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you can't respond to an email listing five things you did the last month you are lazy and unqualified.
#27 | POSTED BY FISHPAWN

You fkkking piece of shht, -----.

No one is required to respond to a demand by Elon Musk.

If that's a basis for letting anyone go, they should sue.

Why do you hate Americans so much?

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:13 PM | Reply

pa1.narvii.com

like this?

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 01:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

-If you can't respond to an email listing five things you did the last month you are lazy and unqualified.

is that what they are requesting everyone do?

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 01:15 PM | Reply

is that what they are requesting everyone do?

That's what President Musk demanded.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:16 PM | Reply

To add.

A lot of government agencies told their employees to ignore the email.

Because it's ridiculous to have to justify your job to an unqualified, unelected, unethical aristocrat.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:18 PM | Reply

-Because it's ridiculous to have to justify your job to an unqualified, unelected, unethical aristocrat.

that's what they do already.

The president selects a cabinet which can direct their respective agencies to do exactly this, right?

We'll use Robert Kennedy as an example....

unqualified? yep
unelected? yep
unethical aristocrat? yep

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 01:23 PM | Reply

To add.

A lot of government agencies told their employees to ignore the email.

Because it's ridiculous to have to justify your job to an unqualified, unelected, unethical aristocrat.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:
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And it's even more ridiculous that some employees work from home, get paid, and don't answer their emails.

#35 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 01:23 PM | Reply

-A lot of government agencies told their employees to ignore the email.

don't most if not all of those agencies report up to a cabinet member, who gets told by Trump to do whatever Musk says??

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 01:24 PM | Reply

because they lost $700 billion a year?
#22 | POSTED BY FISHPAWN

Who did and what are you basing this number on?

Are their records you can point to? Receipts?

Unlike you, FishPawn, I don't believe stupid conspiracies Republicans are making up in order to gut America.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Um, it's from the thread we are commenting on. Did you actually read it before you posted. I can understand if you didn't. All your posts are the same no matter what the thread is.

#37 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-18 01:27 PM | Reply

-And it's even more ridiculous that some employees work from home, get paid, and don't answer their emails.

if that's who gets the boot....then fine....but I'm not trusting that's what's actually happening. I don't trust there is a system in place for Musk to identify these individuals.

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 01:27 PM | Reply

it's even more ridiculous that some employees work from home, get paid
#35 | POSTED BY FISHPAWN

So the reason you're so gleeful they're all getting fired is jealousy.

You really are the epitome of a wrathful, envious Republican.

How dare people work from home!

You had to show up everyday to clean out the toilets!

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:27 PM | Reply

"don't most if not all of those agencies report up to a cabinet member, who gets told by Trump to do whatever Musk says??"

The buck stops, uh, somewhere I guess.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 01:32 PM | Reply

that's what they do already.

Never has what is currently occurring, occurred during American history.

Where the president of the United States hands control of the government to an immigrant and allows them to fire hundreds of thousands of Americans and shuts down portions of the federal government.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:32 PM | Reply

"it's even more ridiculous that some employees work from home, get paid"

I'm literally doing that right now!

Is it the working part, the being at home part, or the getting paid part, which makes you feel bad about yourself?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 01:34 PM | Reply

"Never has what is currently occurring, occurred during American history."

He thought of that:
"The president selects a cabinet which can direct their respective agencies to do exactly this, right?"
"can"

See, they "can" do these things, and they've always been able to do these things; they just didn't.
So from a Republican way of looking at, designed to make sure you don't see anything:
Nothing Has Fundamentally Changed.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 01:36 PM | Reply

" I don't trust there is a system in place"

Sure there is: fire, ready, aim.

It helps if you don't know COBOL, or what a probationary employee is.

#44 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-18 01:38 PM | Reply

it's from the thread we are commenting on. Did you actually read it before you posted. I can understand if you didn't. All your posts are the same no matter what the thread is.
#37 | POSTED BY FISHPAWN

You shouldn't talk about things you don't comprehend.

No where in the article does it state they are letting got of 90,000 employees because "they lost $700 billion a year".

Try finding someone to read and explain the article to you.

On a side note, what the article did state is:

"DOGE claims it has saved taxpayers $715 each."

No wonder you're ready to sell America to Russia. You're gonna get $715! That's more money than you've seen in your whole life!

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:40 PM | Reply

"just assuming they are all lazy is a massive mistake."

It's a mistake.
More than that, it's a defense mechanism called Projection.

Psychological projection is a defence mechanism of alterity concerning "inside" content mistaken to be coming from the "outside" Other.[1] It forms the basis of empathy by the projection of personal experiences to understand someone else's subjective world.[1] In its malignant forms, it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and causing interpersonal damage.[2] Projection incorporates blame shifting and can manifest as shame dumping.[3] Projection has been described as an early phase of introjection.[4]
--wikipedia

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 01:44 PM | Reply

"DOGE claims it has saved taxpayers $715 each."

Here's a good test:
Can you figure out how much money that is for America, just in your head?
If you can't, you probably think Trump is our greatest President.
If you can, you probably realize there's no way your taxes are going to be $715 lower next year -- barring the Trump Great Depression causing you to lose your job and your top tier tax rate on your top tier income.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 01:47 PM | Reply

"If you can't respond to an email listing five things you did the last month you are lazy and unqualified."

If you think you can gauge an employee's value by requiring them to send an email listing five things they did last month, you are lazy and unqualified.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 01:49 PM | Reply

And it's even more ridiculous that some employees work from home, get paid, and don't answer their emails.

#35 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

It's ridiculous that a moron off the street makes a claim and policy that destroys the lives of innocent Americans is created from it without any supporting evidence.

I have not seen any proof of any these claims yet.

If it was true then fire the supervisor too. But obviously there is a legal way to do it and you need proof. It's the supervisors job to make sure that his employees are doing their jobs and not wasting taxpayer money.

Everyone has a boss. Even Trumpy has Putin.

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-18 01:59 PM | Reply

I'm wondering if these Republicans think the business sector is 50% waste too.

I'm wondering if Republicans think we could be paying half at the grocery store if those fat cats at the H-E-B would just trim their own fat.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 02:03 PM | Reply

I'm wondering if these Republicans think

Based on their posting history, I can confidently say, "No sir. They do not."

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 02:47 PM | Reply

that's what they do already.

No. America elected a moron that values ass-kissing over competence, qualification, and intelligence.

Also Fishpaw's kidding himself. The people that work for us are universally good and competent people. Does Fishpaw actually think that private industry is better? That people are more qualified? That's hilarious. It just isn't true. Reading those posts is a litany of right-wing demonization and cariacatures made of figments of right-wing imagination. It should embarrass the hell out of ol' Fishpaw that he'd even type such garbage.

#52 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-18 03:00 PM | Reply

when I said "that's what they do already" I was responding to notion that federal government workers have never worked for an "unelected, unqualified, and unethical aristocrat".

which is patently false. They have absolutely done that before.

If Trump had attempted this experiment on a smaller scale with Musk simply being appointed as Sec of Transportation and he chose to do to just that department what he's doing everywhere....that would be exactly what I'm describing.

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 03:39 PM | Reply

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

It's just a very broad brush to use for almost any past administrations other than Trump's, though. Or do you believe it is common practice to have the level of utter wretchedness, incompetence, unqualified aristocrats (plutocrats) that we have with this current Admin?

I do not.

#54 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-18 04:04 PM | Reply

I don't believe this is business as usual at all.

Prior to Trump, presidents chose people who were at least competent to head up their cabinets. They may have been republicans and democrats. But their goal wasn't to destroy the federal government.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 04:49 PM | Reply

-Or do you believe it is common practice to have the level of utter wretchedness, incompetence, unqualified aristocrats (plutocrats) that we have with this current Admin?

Trump's first cabinet was criticized as having an enormous net worth aggregately.

I'm sure if I do some checking, I'll find previous administrations (GOP for sure) had had many incompetent, unqualified morons appointed. The FEMA guy for Bush during Katrina comes to mind right off hand.

But is it any different now? I can't say it's not worse...meaning that it appears to be worse than ever but if we removed Musk, would we be talking about it? I don't know.....

Carter was criticized for some of his cabinet......many were personal friends and some with considerable baggage.

Not comparing Carter to Trump in any way but this isn't the first inquisition of a cabinet.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 04:58 PM | Reply

-Prior to Trump, presidents chose people who were at least competent to head up their cabinets.

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#57 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 04:59 PM | Reply

#56- exactly. This is an all out assault by people that hate the function and existence of our government to destroy it - to cripple it - and to force it to be privatized as much as possible. Those plutocrats/sycophants all over Trump are lined up to step in. To get the 'proceeds' and take over those functions.

They will become the American Oligarch - just like it happened in Russia.

#58 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-18 05:00 PM | Reply

"If Trump had attempted this experiment on a smaller scale with Musk simply being appointed as Sec of Transportation and he chose to do to just that department what he's doing everywhere....that would be exactly what I'm describing."

Experiment, lol.
Please describe exactly what Trump's "experiment" is supposed to reveal.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 05:06 PM | Reply

"Experiment" is admittingly not the best term to describe what's going on.

Why don't we just jump ahead and call it a "holocaust". Is that better? LOL

#60 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-18 05:09 PM | Reply

Call it the deliberate destruction of our own capacity to govern.

You know that is what is happening.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-18 05:12 PM | Reply

If Trump doesn't go full king, first thing the Democrats need to do is double the 2024 size of the IRS just to go after the very wealthy and corporations. Add judges for Tax courts.

#62 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-03-18 05:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's okay if DOGE loses money, because Democrats are okay with all the waste, fraud, and abuse that also loses money.

It's okay with us Republicans when Republicans act the same as the wasteful, fraudulent, abusive Democrats.

Signed,
Republican Genuises Of The DR

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-20 09:03 AM | Reply

When are we going to stop acting as if their stated puprose is their atual purpose?

The correct question is will DOGE direct more money to insider pockets than is currently being spent?

#64 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-20 09:10 AM | Reply

It's pretty apparent that they have their heads up their a-s-s and need to be over hauled.

#7 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

He really is this stupid, isn't he?

#65 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-20 08:22 PM | Reply

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