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Wednesday, April 16, 2025

A researcher attributed the increase to awareness and improvements in detecting the developmental disorder.

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Doctors are better than ever at identifying autism, with awareness at an all-time high. "Without a doubt, we've become exceptionally efficient in this surveillance work," Warren said.

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Yet the government slashes humanities funding.

Can't connect the dots? Sucks for you.

#1 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-04-15 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Stop testing. Numbers will go down! Problem solved."
-Genius God King Trump

#2 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-16 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

What a scam.

Producing autistic results, "efficiently surveilling" then validating autism.

Many times these children are not born with any symptoms.

Medical practitioners deny that.

Many times, the "surveilling" performed by parents is denied.

Medical practitioners whom perform that display no sympathy.

#3 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-16 01:56 PM | Reply

Related...

RFK Jr. decries epidemic denial' amid increasing autism rates
www.newsnationnow.com

... CDC data: 1 in 31 American kids diagnosed by age 8. RFK Jr. called the new numbers an 'unrelenting' trend. Data comes amid massive' research effort into autism causes.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discussed an "unrelenting upward trend" highlighted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's latest autism rates among American children on Wednesday.

Kennedy called autism spectrum disorder a "preventable disease," and asserted that "we know it's an environmental exposure, it has to be."

The CDC's report found that a record 1 in 31 children are diagnosed with autism by the age of 8 in the United States.

Kennedy pointed to the heightened diagnosis rates as proof of the developmental disability being an "epidemic," of which he has vowed to find the cause by September. ...

he CDC looked at geographic location, race and gender of those diagnosed with autism as of 2022.

Boys continue to be diagnosed more than girls, according to the report, and the highest rates are among Asian American, Pacific Islander, American Indian, Alaska Native and Black children.

The CDC's data from 14 states and Puerto Rico was taken in 2022, which saw the latest increase in diagnoses. Data from 2020 showed that 1 in 36 children had autism, while that number was 1 in 150 in the early aughts.

Health and school records for children aged 4 and 8 across the nation showed that more kids are being diagnosed earlier.

Some health officials and autism advocacy groups have attributed these growing diagnoses to a better understanding of the autism spectrum and broadened screening and criteria.

On Wednesday, Kennedy pushed back against the attribution, labeling it "epidemic denial" to ignore potential environmental exposure links.

"One of the things that I think we need to move away from today is this ideology that the autism prevalence increases, the relentless increases, are simply artifacts of better diagnoses, better recognition or changing diagnostic criteria," Kennedy said. ...


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I was talking to a friend of mine who had ND kids. I told her the study I read about relative to diabetes increasing the likelihood. As it turns out, she had gestational diabetes... some women become diabetic while pregnant. People are fatter than ever.

Part of that increase is because girls are now being diagnosed as well. Two decades ago, that was not the case. They thought it was predominantly a male problem. The symptoms are different than those of boys... because male and female brains are inherently wired differently...females were rarely diagnosed.

It is believed by some "experts" that over 60% of those who think themselves transsexual are Autistic. They present compelling arguments in favor of the theory.

#5 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-04-16 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Better observation than the parents and all of their visits prior to the onset of autism?

This crowing about delayed discovery, but not caused by our practice is blatant CYA.

I thought the denial over oxycontin addiction was stupid, but sudden autism post-vaccination exceeds all others.

#6 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-16 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5 ... As it turns out, she had gestational diabetes... some women become diabetic while pregnant. People are fatter than ever. ...

Study strengthens link between maternal diabetes and autism
www.reuters.com

... A large new study adds to evidence that diabetes during pregnancy is linked with an increased risk of brain and nervous system problems in children, including autism, researchers say. ...

The risks for children of mothers with diabetes during pregnancy were 25% higher for autism, 30% higher for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and 32% higher for intellectual disability. They were also 20% higher for trouble with communication, 17% higher for movement problems and 16% higher for learning disorders than in children whose mothers did not have diabetes while pregnant. ...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Both can be true, and most likely ARE.

#8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-16 02:37 PM | Reply

Many times these children are not born with any symptoms.

Medical practitioners deny that.

That we know of. But what you're saying is kind of absurd given the primary way of diagnosing is based on development milestones being missed.

Many times, the "surveilling" performed by parents is denied.

For good reason. The plural of anecdote isn't data.

Medical practitioners whom perform that display no sympathy.

#3 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

And what do you expect from them exactly?

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-16 02:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

but sudden autism post-vaccination exceeds all others.

#6 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

Because it's been found to be bulls^*%, sport.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-16 02:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I like to add a little tarragon to increase the bitterness."

"Yes, she likes to put a little bit of herself into every dish."

#11 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-16 02:59 PM | Reply

@#6 ... but sudden autism post-vaccination exceeds all others. ...

Causal, or coincidental?

If vaccination rates are down, why is autism rate going up?

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 03:20 PM | Reply

"It is believed by some "experts" that over 60% of those who think themselves transsexual are Autistic."

Are gender roles strict commands or are they arbitrary and capricious rules?

In some cultures men greet each other with a kiss on the cheek. Why don't Americans usually do that?

Why shouldn't a person reject these arbitrary and capricious rules, simply because they are arbitrary and capricious and not grounded in any truth?

neurolaunch.com
The literal thinking often associated with autism plays a significant role in how authority is perceived and understood. Understanding Autism: The 3 Main Characteristics and Their Impact highlights how this characteristic can affect social interactions. For instance, an autistic individual might interpret a casual suggestion from an authority figure as a strict command, or conversely, may not recognize the weight of an important directive if it's not explicitly stated as such.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 03:20 PM | Reply

"It is believed by some "experts" that over 60% of those who think themselves transsexual are Autistic."

The [humans] who ponder such Venn diagrams over what [humans think of themselves] have rich imaginations and poor vocabularies.

#14 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-04-16 09:20 PM | Reply

RFK Jr. disputes CDC conclusion on why autism rates have jumped in US
www.scrippsnews.com

... Experts attribute the increase in autism diagnoses to broader definitions and improved detection methods, alongside potential genetic and environmental factors. ...

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Wednesday addressed a new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that found that 1 in 31 children born in 2014 were diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder.

"There are many many other studies that have affirmed this, and instead of listening to this canard of epidemic denial, all you have to do is start reading a little science because the answer is very clear, and this is catastrophic for our country," Kennedy said at a press conference.

A previous CDC report indicated that among children born in 2012, 1 out of 36 had been identified with autism spectrum disorder by the time they turned 8 years old. Among children born in 1992, that proportion was 1 in 150, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

No one knows why autism rates have spiked in the past 25 years, but scientists think much of it is due to a broader definition of the disorder and better detection. They also say genetics and exposure to chemicals may play a role.

"We're seeing the rates of autism go up because we're doing a better job of understanding what autism is," Dr. Jessica McCarthy, a licensed clinical psychologist, told Scripps News. "We're doing better job of assessing it and diagnosing it in greater areas around the country, both in terms of targeted areas of the country and also in populations that we know are chronically underserved in healthcare."

The CDC's report notes concern about the variability of autism detection rates. Officials believe there needs to be more uniformity in identifying autism spectrum disorder in order to provide proper treatment.

"Increased identification of autism, particularly among very young children and previously underidentified groups, underscores the increased demand and ongoing need for enhanced planning to provide equitable diagnostic, treatment, and support services for all children with ASD," the CDC's report says. "The substantial variability in ASD identification across sites suggests opportunities to identify and implement successful strategies and practices in communities to ensure all children with ASD reach their potential." ...



Before a problem can be resolved, it needs to be clearly defined.

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 09:30 PM | Reply

All of a sudden one in 31 kids is retarded, up from 1 in 34 in 2020, following a curve.

When I was a kid it was 1 in 2000. Special needs schools where unheard of. You never saw retarded people. Today, I have two close friends whose sons ride the short bus.

We are poising ourselves, and the environmentalists are in denial?

#16 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 09:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

@#16 ... All of a sudden one in 31 kids is retarded, up from 1 in 34 in 2020, following a curve. ...

All of a sudden? I disagree.

An increase, yeah.

So what is the reason for that increase?

Better understanding and detection of autism?


I doubt if it is vaccines because vaccine usage is down, while autism is rising.

Are environmentalists the latest conspiracy theory, now that the vaccine conspiracy theory has been disproved?



#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 09:46 PM | Reply

#16 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 09:36 PM

Helidumbrat is still wasting oxygen!

Astonishing.

Don't you have a date with a plastic bag and a helium tank?

Long overdue...

#18 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-04-16 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 dude, have you followed the curve since 1980?

Toxins have increased from all angles, look at the damn curve! Did you know it matches exactly the rate of glyphosate introduction? Coincidence?

You don't have to be a chemist to know modern drinking water will melt a test-tube. Most cities get water from river intakes that has been recycled many times, and it's full of drugs and pollutants, mostly faerm runoff. Stuff you can't filter out.

A whole range of chemicals are probably working synergisticly to cause this, and let's not rule out adjuncts in vaccines, because kids kid dozens at once.

#19 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 09:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"When I was a kid it was 1 in 2000. Special needs schools where unheard of. You never saw retarded people. Today, I have two close friends whose sons ride the short bus."

The Short Bus Of Survivorship Bias is getting longer and longer.

Republicans think Undesirables are like cockroaches, they should scatter when the lights come on.

Next they'll call the Exterminator.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 10:01 PM | Reply

"Did you know it matches exactly the rate of glyphosate introduction?"

Yeah so what are you gonna do, stop using RoundUp?

Stop planting GMO crops?

You think Capitalism cares about your retarded children?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 10:03 PM | Reply

Indeed. Forever plastics in the blood system now. Gluten intolerance also unheard of in my youth. Something is changing humans.

Can you imagine every school cafeteria in the second half of the last century posting peanut warnings for the 100 percent of kids who sometimes came in with a PBJ or a Reese's cup?

Ignore Hrat at your peril. The FDA has approved plenty of chemicals that may work, and researchers don't know why. Then there are off label usages.

We are flailing in an ocean of ignorance that the best science can only chip away at.

#22 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-04-16 10:06 PM | Reply

"Ignore Hrat at your peril."

The industrialization of the food supply is harmful to humans and the environment in ways we haven't even begun to imagine.

Ecology as a science really only came into its own in the 50s and 60s.

It was immediately politicized since any fool can recognize why measuring and quantifying the damage of human activity is an existential threat to the status quo.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 10:21 PM | Reply

#22 Doing my best to de-calcify your pineal gland. Say no to fluoride and aspartame, too.

#24 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 10:30 PM | Reply

"The industrialization of..."

#23 | Posted by snoofy

One of these days snoofy we have to drop acid together.

#25 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 10:33 PM | Reply

@#214 ... Doing my best to de-calcify your pineal gland. Say no to fluoride and aspartame, too. ...

Why?

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 10:45 PM | Reply

You didn't know that aspartame is bad for you?

Do you live under a rock?

Nevermind that. Have you never had a Diet Coke? Wow what a life I wish I never had a Diet Coke.

Just from eating aspartame, don't you at least suspect it might be bad for you? Does it not taste hideously awful? How would anything natural be that sweet? And then somehow it has zero calories, so the only reason it tastes sweet is because it mimics naturally occurring chemicals to elicit the same physiological response.

So it tricks your tongue into thinking it's really sweet.

What other biological systems does it trick?

Now, let me ask you again:

You're still going to eat this?

Anyway, aspartame is not something you should eat.

Direct and indirect cellular effects of aspartame on the brain
www.nature.com

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 10:55 PM | Reply

#26 To control us. The elite hate us. They want to remove us too. Or at least reduce us to a controllable population. Their money depends on it.

"Where there is person, there is a problem. Where there is no person, there no problem."

- the Head of Saddam's Secret Police.

#28 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 10:57 PM | Reply

"Where there is a person, there is a problem. Where there is no person, there is no problem."

sp. A little more chilling, but still Bill Gates.

#29 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 10:59 PM | Reply

@#29 ... "Where there is a person, there is a problem. Where there is no person, there is no problem." ...

Nah, I would not attribute that to Mr Gates (as much as I criticize him).

But I would attribute it more to Pres Trump disappearing immigrants with no due process.


#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 11:02 PM | Reply

#30 You have no right to be here. What due process? Finding that out is due process. Now bye!

#31 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 11:04 PM | Reply

Oh, that wasn't Bill Gates, that actually was the head of Saddam's sekrit police. Type it into google. Ok, I will.

Oops. Gemini says:

The phrase "Where there is a person, there is a problem. Where there is no person, there is no problem" is often attributed to Joseph Stalin, although its authenticity is debated. It's a sarcastic or cynical statement, suggesting that people are inherently the source of problems. This idea was reportedly applied by Stalin to individuals and even entire groups or "classes" in his later years.

#32 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 11:06 PM | Reply

@#30 ... You have no right to be here. What due process? ...

The due process that the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 has to occur.


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 11:14 PM | Reply

@#32 ... Oh, that wasn't Bill Gates, that actually was the head of Saddam's sekrit police. Type it into google. Ok, I will. ..

OK, I was just going off your #29 comment.


#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 11:17 PM | Reply

#33 What's that? You can only apply for asylum at a legal port of entry, not after you break in. Or at our embassy. I'm pretty sure that's the law. Or they may be about to change it?

#35 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 11:21 PM | Reply

What due process?

PLEASE read the fifth amendment and Scalia's interpretation of it.

www.pbs.org

Right to due process
What the law says: The Fifth Amendment states that "no person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

The issue of due process is at the heart of many immigration cases, including Reno v. Flores, the 1993 Supreme Court case that has returned to the spotlight with the surge in family separations. The case led to an agreement requiring the government to release children to their parents, a relative or a licensed program within 20 days.

In the ruling, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings."

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-16 11:22 PM | Reply

Getting back to the topic at hand ...

Regressive Autism (2021)
goldencaretherapy.com

... The Difference Between Autism That Develops and Regressive Autism

Autism That Develops (Early-Onset Autism)

Autism that develops, also known as early-onset autism, refers to cases where symptoms are present from an early age, often before the child turns three years old. Children with early-onset autism exhibit developmental delays and differences in social, communication, and behavioral skills compared to their typically developing peers.

Regressive Autism (Late-Onset Autism)

Regressive autism, also known as late-onset autism, involves a period of typical development followed by a loss of previously acquired skills or a noticeable decline in social and communication abilities. This regression usually occurs between 15 and 30 months of age and can be sudden or gradual. ...


#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 11:23 PM | Reply

Oh yeah, I heard if you break and enter you can still apply for asylum, but that was under Biden, right? They give you a NTO (notice to Appear) for a court date up to six years away amd you can apply for a SSN in the mail. Trump just ended that. A scan of 5 million of those SSN's showed 1.15 million on medicaid and more on welfare. That was news from DOGE on X.

#38 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 11:25 PM | Reply

#37 The meme is: nobody gets autism before vaccination.

The vaxxed will die. The unvaxxed will be hunted.

#39 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-16 11:29 PM | Reply

@#6 ... but sudden autism post-vaccination exceeds all others. ...
Causal, or coincidental?
If vaccination rates are down, why is autism rate going up?
#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 03:20 PM

Googles states "Babies typically receive vaccinations at birth, and then at 2, 4, 6, 12, 15, and 18 months of age. These vaccinations help protect them from various serious diseases as they grow."

You are conflating other vaccinations with the series that is part of the allegation.

Is there evidence of children developing late autism whom haven't been vaccinated with that series?

#40 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-16 11:37 PM | Reply

A scan of 5 million of those SSN's showed 1.15 million on medicaid"

Sure, let's run with that.
"in fiscal year 2022, Medicaid spent $8,813 per full-year equivalent enrollee for all enrollees."
So that's ten billion dollars.
So that's about sixty bucks per taxpayer.

Sixty bucks and you think you're making it rain.

Sixty bucks.
Congratulations, if you're a poor person maybe you can afford that overdue oil change and new wiper blades now!

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-17 12:02 AM | Reply

The problem with you stupid dummies is that you're dumb. And stupid.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-17 12:03 AM | Reply

Toxins have increased from all angles

Ahhhh yes the ToXiNzZ!!!

The anti-vaxx loons favorite nebulous cause of everything that they never have any evidence for or specificity in naming.

#43 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 12:04 AM | Reply

"Toxins have increased from all angles"

Toxins notwithstanding:
It's not angles.
It's vectors.

What we are doing with the chemicalization and industrialization of the food web is we are engineering new vectors of biological disruption.

I'm kinda surprised the UFO people are letting us get away with it. Though I suspect they simply wouldn't suspect such a thing. We managed to toilet train ourselves, nobody would expect we still choose to ---- where we eat.

That understanding didn't exist in the human species in a way that was engineered into modern life until a hundred-plus years ago.

Yeah. Toxins have increased from all angles. It's called progress. The eggs slide right off the pan!

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-17 12:09 AM | Reply

What's that? You can only apply for asylum at a legal port of entry, not after you break in. Or at our embassy. I'm pretty sure that's the law. Or they may be about to change it?

#35 | Posted by HeliumRat

Would you idiots at least look something up before chirping your bulls(*&?

You don't have to enter at a port of entry to apply for asylum.

That was news from DOGE on X.

#38 | Posted by HeliumRat

LOL f*&^ off idiot.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 12:12 AM | Reply

@#38 ... Oh yeah, I heard if you break and enter you can still apply for asylum ...

That level of topic diversion is quite odd for you.

Yeah, you have posted some things about UFOs in the past, but they were always on topic.

Now, you seem to be diverging from that on topic focus.

Why?

#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 12:16 AM | Reply

@#40 ... Is there evidence of children developing late autism whom haven't been vaccinated with that series? ...

Your current alias seems to be asserting that there is.

So, the onus in for it to substantiate its assertion.

It is not up to me to disprove, it is up to your current alias to substantiate.


What's it got?




.

#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 12:22 AM | Reply

You are conflating other vaccinations with the series that is part of the allegation.

Is there evidence of children developing late autism whom haven't been vaccinated with that series?

#40 | Posted by redlightrobot

If you're talking about the MMR, you're about a decade behind the times.

The "link" is long debunked and the outright fraud perpetrated by Wakefield well documented.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 12:25 AM | Reply

#45 Did you just call me an idiot, "doctor"?

You are nothing but a fraud, fry-cook. You claimed to be a molecular biologist during COVID and posted your lies everywhere.

So just STFU.

#49 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 12:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

@#40 ... Is there evidence of children developing late autism whom haven't been vaccinated with that series? ...
Your current alias seems to be asserting that there is.
So, the onus in for it to substantiate its assertion.
It is not up to me to disprove, it is up to your current alias to substantiate.
What's it got?
.
#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 12:22 AM

To my knowledge they all have been, and all studies are regarding children with autism who have been vaccinated.

You are conflating other vaccinations with the series that is part of the allegation.
Is there evidence of children developing late autism whom haven't been vaccinated with that series?
#40 | Posted by redlightrobot
If you're talking about the MMR, you're about a decade behind the times.
The "link" is long debunked and the outright fraud perpetrated by Wakefield well documented.
#48 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 12:25 AM

Not just concomitant use studies.

With the knowledge that many if not all mothers exhibit diabetic or pre-diabetic disorder may only strengthen this argument and enlighten dismissive academics.

#50 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-17 12:44 AM | Reply

[sigh]

#51 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-17 12:45 AM | Reply

"I'm kinda surprised the UFO people are letting us get away with it."

#44 | Posted by snoofy

Nope. All us good UFO people are present and accounted for.

I think you mean the Reptoids. Those are the bad UFO people. Like Hillary.

#52 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 12:47 AM | Reply

@#50 ... To my knowledge they all have been, and all studies are regarding children with autism who have been vaccinated. ...

So, "to your knowledge" you admit that your knowledge takes into account only a subset.

thx.

That's a major reason why I ask so frequently here for substantiation.

Sometimes the comment I reply to are lacking in information, and I need more information to form my opinion.

And, I do thank the redlightrobot alias for admitting that it really has not a clue on this topic.



#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:01 AM | Reply

#53 Did you just call RLR an alias? Why? I had my own suspicions but you too? Mine seemed a little far fetched, like the original RLR is dead dead kind of far-fetched....

What happened?

#54 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 01:07 AM | Reply

Manic Street Preachers - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next (1999)
www.youtube.com


An interesting tune.

If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
en.wikipedia.org

... "If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next" is a song by Welsh alternative rock band Manic Street Preachers. ..

Background

A propaganda poster reading "Madrid ' The 'military' practice of the rebels" at the top, and "If you tolerate this your children will be next" at the bottom; in the middle, a photomontage of a dead young child under a formation of bomber aircraft

The song's theme is inspired by the Spanish Civil War, and the idealism of Welsh volunteers who joined the left-wing International Brigades fighting for the Spanish Republic against Francisco Franco's military rebels. The song takes its name from a Republican propaganda poster of the time written in English and displaying a photograph of a child killed by the Nationalists, under a sky filled with bomber aircraft, with the song's titular warning written at the bottom.[3] ...


#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#54 ... Did you just call RLR an alias? Why? ...

As I have explained many times here, back in the day (now a couple three decades ago) when I ran a message board (and wow, I know what RCade is facing here), everyone who signed up to participate had to select an alias that would identify their posts.

That's a reason why I use the term "alias" here.


#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:12 AM | Reply

#55 Hey I loved your song. Great lyrics. NW.

#57 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 01:17 AM | Reply

#56 Wait. You aren't a RL superhero? I figured by your name... what am I doing here....

www.youtube.com

#58 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 01:20 AM | Reply

@#58 ... You aren't a RL superhero ...

Yeah, that's a great opening theme for that Star Trek series (the first Star Trek theme with sung lyrics, btw), and I have posted that tune before.

But, I'm not sure what you mean by "RL superhero."

Can you explain?

thx.


#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:35 AM | Reply

Hey I loved your song. Great lyrics.

That is a great tune. First time I heard it I was sure it was a new Scorpions thing.

#60 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-17 01:35 AM | Reply

Here's a good one: www.youtube.com

#61 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 01:40 AM | Reply

And now, getting back on topic ...

RFK Jr. lays out new studies on autism, shuts down 'better diagnoses' as a cause
abcnews.go.com

... On the heels of a new report showing that rates of autism diagnoses have again increased, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said he was determined to find the "environmental exposures" behind the rise and directed the National Institute of Health to launch new studies into "everything" -- from mold to obesity -- that could potentially be a factor.

Kennedy, who prioritizes autism as one of the chronic illnesses he's determined to tackle in his aim to "Make America Healthy Again," ardently pushed back against the explanation that a broadening definition of autism spectrum disorder is a meaningful contributor to more autism diagnoses. ...


#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:50 AM | Reply

Yeah, I tried posting this but non-fake news isn't allowed here: www.breitbart.com

"The epidemic is real," Kennedy said, noting there are plenty of other studies that affirm this notion.

"Instead of listening to this canard of epidemic denial, all you have to do is start reading a little science, because the answer is very clear, and this is catastrophic for our country," Kennedy continued, citing another recent study that found the cost of treating autism in the U.S. by 2035 will be one trillion dollars per year.

#63 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 01:56 AM | Reply

@#62

A couple of comments ...

... On the heels of a new report showing that rates of autism diagnoses have again increased ...

But vaccination rates have decreased. So, that conspiracy theory (i.e., vaccines cause autism) seems to have fallen to the wayside.

More from the article ...

... Kennedy said he wanted to "move away" from the idea that "the autism prevalence increases -- the relentless increases -- are simply artifacts of better diagnoses, better recognition or changing diagnostic criteria."

"This epidemic denial has become a feature in the mainstream media, and it's based on an industry canard. And obviously there are people who don't want us to look at environmental exposures," Kennedy said, speaking at a press conference at the department headquarters on Wednesday in Washington, D.C. ...

... Kennedy said he wanted to "move away" from the idea that ...

Yeah, when a study is launched, it is not appropriate to state what the results of that study should be.




#64 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:58 AM | Reply

@#60 ... That is a great tune. First time I heard ...

For me, an area college station (wxci.org) was the place I heard it.


#65 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 02:03 AM | Reply

#45 Did you just call me an idiot, "doctor"?

Yes, because you are, dumbf*&^.

You are nothing but a fraud, fry-cook. You claimed to be a molecular biologist during COVID and posted your lies everywhere.

So just STFU.

#49 | Posted by HeliumRat

No, I didn't because I'm not a molecular biologist.

You're a f*&^ing moron who exemplifies Dunning-Kruger. You spew garbled aggregations of bulls(*& you think sounds sciency because you're a f*&^ing degenerate moron who thinks their three functional neurons are putting out significant thought or insight but refuse to acknowledge that you lack the knowledge or critical thinking skills to assess the source material.

Meanwhile, you're just regurgitating verbatim anti-vaxx canards and misinformation that you likely picked up on fringe sites and s*&^ "media" sources like Breitshart.

Duhhhh Look At ThE CurVes!!! Wow. Solid work, Einstein.

F*&^ing idiot.

#66 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 02:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speaking of college radio, I had a friend in this band: www.youtube.com

Get your freak on. He kept a planters peanut jar of Uranium ore under his bed, and died of cancer.

#67 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 02:23 AM | Reply

Heh. JPW said "Duhhh".

Fries up, doctor! Or do you prefer your---------- at the Flying J?

God-damn you where funny on the nooner. I miss that place.

Molecular biologist. Everyone here remembers that ---- you ------- fraud.

STFU.

#68 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 02:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To my knowledge they all have been, and all studies are regarding children with autism who have been vaccinated.

Incorrect.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That's one example. If you're genuinely interested in the topic, dig into this before you keep expressing strong opinions.

Not just concomitant use studies.

With the knowledge that many if not all mothers exhibit diabetic or pre-diabetic disorder may only strengthen this argument and enlighten dismissive academics.

#50 | Posted by redlightrobot

LOL so the vague, evidence free combo hypothesis. How does the maternal diabetes data support this?

#69 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 02:30 AM | Reply

#67: Thanks for posting. I played in a few bands in the early 1980s. We had a couple of gigs in NYC and Long Island, but just couldn't make it. What instrument did your friend play? And where did he, ahem, get the uranium?

#70 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-17 02:35 AM | Reply

And you're still doing it :)

#71 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 02:35 AM | Reply

Fries up, doctor! Or do you prefer your---------- at the Flying J?

You really are an intellectual light weight piece of s(*&, aren't you?

God-damn you where funny on the nooner. I miss that place.

Me too. But because it allowed you ignorant s*&^ stains to fully reveal yourselves.

Molecular biologist. Everyone here remembers that ---- you ------- fraud.

STFU.

#68 | Posted by HeliumRat

No, they don't you f*&^ing idiot. Because I've never claimed to be a molecular biologist LOL

The word biologist doesn't even appear in my degree's title, dips*&^.

My favorite part about the current iteration of this site is how it so readily displays the concept of Dunning-Kruger. Especially it's prevalence on the right.

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 02:36 AM | Reply

#70 I honestly have no idea where he got it, but hey it was just ore. He was one of the guitarists. He died after I moved away. That's the story I was told. They did a few other songs, he used to play them for me. I was like 16, at his house playing video-games when he played that for me. I always remembered the lyrics.

#73 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 02:39 AM | Reply

That's funny, "doctor". I'm pretty sure it was molecular biology. What is your degree in again?

#74 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 02:40 AM | Reply

Ratturd has daddy issues.

#75 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-17 02:41 AM | Reply

That's funny, "doctor". I'm pretty sure it was molecular biology. What is your degree in again?

#74 | Posted by HeliumRat

No scare quotes needed, "layman."

My degree wasn't molecular biology.

You can keep asserting something that's entirely in your head, but it won't make it any more true.

Take this as a lesson in your Dunning-Kruger-ness.

#76 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 03:02 AM | Reply

Fries up at the Flying' J!

I asked you what your degree was in. The last time you posted your credentials it got shot down and laughed at as an obviously a lie. I think you claimed to have a PhD but couldn't say a word about your doctorate thesis? You where like "um...."

We all remember the COVID years, JPW. Now go back to your----------.

#77 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:07 AM | Reply

#73: I'm sorry your friend passed. The uranium story is great, don't change a thing when relating it. A la Mark Twain: "The guitarist kept under his bed a Planters peanut jar widely accepted by all to contain uranium."

NYC in the 1980s was a blast. CBGB, the Backfence, L'Amours, Kenny's Castaways. I bought a hatchback that would fit my drum kit and we were able to find free parking in downtown Manhattan back then.

Many say this is the video that encapsulated that time: youtu.be

#78 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-17 03:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And tell me again about "Proximal Origins" and how the WuFlu came from a pangolin ------- a bat. 'Cause that was funny. And masking, and social distancing, and lock-downs, and the vaccine being safe and effective. And ivermectin.

Because you where an expert on all of that. Degree'd even.

#79 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:12 AM | Reply

#78 now that was awesome. Have you seen this old one: www.youtube.com

#80 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:20 AM | Reply

#80: Great song by Mike and the Mechanics, thanks, but I didn't remember the video. The opening reminded me of Christopher Walken handing the watch to the young boy in Pulp Fiction. "Your father wanted me to give you this..." static1.moviewebimages.com

#81 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-17 03:29 AM | Reply

Fries up at the Flying' J!

Yawn. Keep digging, s**^heap.

I asked you what your degree was in.

No s(*&, dumbf*&^. I answered it.

The last time you posted your credentials it got shot down and laughed at as an obviously a lie.

More fantasy from one of the DR's biggest braindead s*&^ streaks on the underwear of humanity.

I think you claimed to have a PhD but couldn't say a word about your doctorate thesis? You where like "um...."

LOL IF this happened (big IF...), the hesitancy was because you're a creepy pile of s*&^ and I wouldn't give any identifying info to you ever.

If Brucebanner was around, he could confirm you're full of s(*&. He's one of two people I've communicated without side of this site and the only one who knows my actual identity and credentials.

Although, I guess rcade could figure it out if he had the inclination.

We all remember the COVID years, JPW. Now go back to your----------.

#77 | Posted by HeliumRat

No, dumbf*&^, you don't. Which is why you're wrong about this as well as everything that happened during the COVID years.

#82 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 03:33 AM | Reply

#81 I love this one, yours reminded me of "Twilight Zone": www.youtube.com

#83 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:33 AM | Reply

The uranium story is great, don't change a thing when relating it.

You know it's likely horses*&^, right?

#84 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 03:34 AM | Reply

#82 Hahahahaha!

#85 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:34 AM | Reply

And tell me again about "Proximal Origins" and how the WuFlu came from a pangolin ------- a bat. 'Cause that was funny. And masking, and social distancing, and lock-downs, and the vaccine being safe and effective. And ivermectin.

Because you where an expert on all of that. Degree'd even.

#79 | Posted by HeliumRat

I could spend post after post after post explaining it to you and you'd still be like "duuuhhhhhhhhhh NuH UhHHz!!/"

Because you already have.

In any case, the proof of your disingenuous, intellectually vacant position is readily available in the bold section of your post. That's never been a position expressed in a literal sense and in a broad sense it was an initial hypothesis floated early based on SARS-CoV-1 findings.

Like everything else, you went into that situation looking to prop your ego as an "independent thinker" by taking he contrarian side without any real knowledge or critical analysis of the topic.

Everything after is pure bulls(*& meant to prop that original pompous, arrogant assumption.

#86 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 03:39 AM | Reply

Heh. So that's what happened to Brucebanner - he took your medical advice and now he's dead!

ROFLMAO!

#87 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:40 AM | Reply

Hey, C0RI0LANUS, your song and the others put my youtube on a weird musical bent, and now it's playing a song about telepathy. www.youtube.com

#88 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:44 AM | Reply

#84: Yes, but an entertaining story is an entertaining story.

Would you believe a civilian walked around town with a live hand grenade before being caught? globalnews.ca

Or a man traveled with 8kg of mercury in his luggage? www.gdnonline.com

#89 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-17 03:47 AM | Reply

Heh. So that's what happened to Brucebanner - he took your medical advice and now he's dead!

ROFLMAO!

#87 | Posted by HeliumRat

He got a vacation because SSentinal whined.

He ditched this s*&^hole and never came back.

#90 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 03:49 AM | Reply

#88: i.pinimg.com

#91 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-17 03:49 AM | Reply

"An aircraft passenger has landed a five-year spell behind bars after carrying a potentially dangerous chemical on board a planned flight from Bahrain to Kuwait. The 62-year-old Pakistani hid 8kg of mercury in his luggage on a Gulf Air flight on May 25, the High Criminal Court heard "

So that's what happened to ------. I miss our old resident Pakistani. How many times did he get banned and come back?

#92 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 03:53 AM | Reply

I mean, you're a drummer, right? I only knew one recently, black kid that hanged out with my friend James. Everybody calls James "Rocker". He has three Harley's and his own sound room. He sells custom guitars, and the gets the best weed on the planet. Knows everyone. His kid was one of the ones I was talking about that has autism. It's a horrible thing to see - he'll be a kid forever unless we can cure it.

I wish I had musical talent so I could hang out more with people that do.

#93 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 04:09 AM | Reply

#93. Helium Rat, I was a drummer last century. I played four instruments way back then. Everybody has music in them, we just have to tap into into it. Some lucky people are born with perfect pitch (I know three), but this could also be taught with practice. I'm sorry your friend's kid has autism, my friend has a son similarly afflicted. And the autistic boy has a normal sister whom we feel awful for her because she is deprived of a normal sibling relationship forever. Unfortunately there is no cure for autism.

Hey, clear out your YouTube algorithm with this. We saw this band live and and we covered this song: youtu.be

#94 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-17 04:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah! I never heard of Zebra, I'll let 'em play for awhile. That was a hot leotard. Thanx.

#95 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 04:54 AM | Reply

Yawn. Next time!

#96 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-17 04:58 AM | Reply

Re #31
www.youtube.com

#97 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2025-04-17 07:53 AM | Reply

Excellent thread, Gacy.

#98 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-04-17 08:49 AM | Reply

Autism is caused by liberal inbreeding. Based on the number of liberal ------- on this site 90% of you have little -------.

#99 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-04-17 09:31 AM | Reply

And your other 10% are ----.

#100 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-04-17 09:33 AM | Reply

Zebra

Man, been awhile since I've heard them. Used to call them Almost Zep.

#101 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-04-17 09:51 AM | Reply

Diabetes and toxic environment of the mother are the causes of autism. Nature is trying to off us. We're a virus with shoes.

#102 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-04-17 09:55 AM | Reply

@#50 ... To my knowledge they all have been, and all studies are regarding children with autism who have been vaccinated. ...
So, "to your knowledge" you admit that your knowledge takes into account only a subset.
thx.
That's a major reason why I ask so frequently here for substantiation.
Sometimes the comment I reply to are lacking in information, and I need more information to form my opinion.
And, I do thank the redlightrobot alias for admitting that it really has not a clue on this topic.
#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:01 AM

If that is what you perceive, I guess I can't make you.. drink?:]

Rather, what I am substantiating is the professional arena being utterly certain that vaccines play no part in autism occurring.

That is in opposition to what thousands of parents have experienced and described to said "professionals".

I can presume that ALL of these children have been vaccinated with the standard MMR series because it is routine. Perhaps Canada is different, but it's legally required inside most of the United States. FYI.

I believe the parents when they explain the autism began directly after immunization.

Children developing verbal skills stop entirely. They appear to "retreat". Using THIS PDF as a reference there are NO alternatives considered, only the mainstream medical opinion.

I am having difficulties locating any data from any government source on the number of children not vaccinated with MMR series, as it is considered "routine".

Perhaps you know differently, and if you want to continue this conversation without insinuation and derision, than I'm all for "it".

#103 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-17 11:32 AM | Reply

Autism is caused by liberal inbreeding. Based on the number of liberal ------- on this site 90% of you have little -------.

#99 | Posted by fortfisher

Jethro Dull here always adds so much to the conversation.

#104 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-17 11:43 AM | Reply

"To my knowledge they all have been, and all studies are regarding children with autism who have been vaccinated."
Incorrect.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
That's one example. If you're genuinely interested in the topic, dig into this before you keep expressing strong opinions.
"Not just concomitant use studies."
"With the knowledge that many if not all mothers exhibit diabetic or pre-diabetic disorder may only strengthen this argument and enlighten dismissive academics."
#50 | Posted by redlightrobot
LOL so the vague, evidence free combo hypothesis. How does the maternal diabetes data support this?
#69 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 02:30 AM

You people tend to harsh on the messenger. I'm generally here to explore you, not just to criticize.:]

The data you present is Denmark decades ago. Is there anything current regarding the United States? I am digging, but you obviously have more skill at it.

I used the language from the government document I posted above, parsed as best as I could and presented the (weak?) counter argument.

The time-line is matching the ages and vaccinations.

The parents appear to observe identical experiences.

The professionals deny any correlation, but with a new piece of information that would INVALIDATE all of that prior denial.

Should the diabetic link be proven valid, all prior studies and professionals should really "dig into this before you keep expressing strong opinions."

#105 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-17 11:51 AM | Reply

@#58 ... You aren't a RL superhero ...
Yeah, that's a great opening theme for that Star Trek series (the first Star Trek theme with sung lyrics, btw), and I have posted that tune before.
But, I'm not sure what you mean by "RL superhero."
Can you explain?
thx.
#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-17 01:35 AM

The alias is inquiring as to our personal relationship.

The original performed live

The unsung lyrics:

Beyond
The rim of the star-light
My love
Is wand'ring in star-flight
I know
He'll find in star-clustered reaches
Love,
Strange love a star woman teaches.
I know
His journey ends never
His star trek
Will go on forever.
But tell him
While he wanders his starry sea
Remember, remember me.

(* Without Courage's knowledge, Roddenberry wrote lyrics to the theme, not in the expectation that they would ever be sung, but in order to claim a 50% share of the music's performance royalties. Although there was never any litigation, Courage later commented that he considered Roddenberry's conduct unethical. Roddenberry was quoted as responding, "Hey, I have to get some money somewhere. I'm sure not gonna get it out of the profits of Star Trek.")

source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/startreklyrics.html

#106 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-17 12:21 PM | Reply

#105 | Posted by redlightrobot

It was just an example to counter the notion that studies haven't compared vaxxed to unvaxxed populations. Many have.

I "harsh on the messenger" because it's a tired topic that just won't die and the vast majority of people I encounter in that conversation have an axe to grind with all the usual bad info to grind it with. I forget that some people aren't that.

#107 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 01:57 PM | Reply

Autism is caused by liberal inbreeding. Based on the number of liberal ------- on this site 90% of you have little -------.

#99 | Posted by fortfisher

How did elon's dad ------- his little sister cause elon to be autistic? And how do you know they're all liberals?

#108 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-04-17 02:45 PM | Reply

#108 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

The dirtbag is straight-up troll. Try not to feed.

#109 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-04-17 10:18 PM | Reply

the word biologist doesn't even appear in my degree's title, dips*&^.

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-17 02:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

The word c0ck$scker on the other hand....

#110 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-04-18 12:24 AM | Reply

The word c0ck$scker on the other hand....
#110 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Is your nickname?

#111 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-18 12:46 AM | Reply

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