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The Trump administration conceded this weekend what economists, CEOs and consumers already knew: Americans pay for tariffs.

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Walmart CEO Doug McMillon said earlier this week that some prices could rise because of the tariffs imposed by President Trump. Trump responded on Saturday, urging the world's biggest retailer to simply absorb the consequences of his trade war.

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-- The Washington Post (@washingtonpost.com) May 18, 2025 at 10:16 AM

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Trump is a stupid, lying sumbitch who counts on everyone else being as stupid as he is. Given recent administration chatter, threats of military action tribunals against Walmart executives should be ext.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-05-19 11:48 AM | Reply

Trump's default response to inconvenient reality is to threaten all within earshot. As a mode of governance it guarantees disaster.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-05-19 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

But will Trumpers ever figure out that consumers pay tariff taxes?

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-19 12:20 PM | Reply

Trump is a stupid, lying sumbitch who counts on everyone else being as stupid as he is.

He also counts on everyone else to be afraid of him.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-05-19 12:36 PM | Reply

Nothing but an incredibly stupid sock puppet of Stephan Miller and Russell Vought.

#5 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-05-19 12:56 PM | Reply

I suspect that WalMart's executive team will focus on shareholder value, rather than appeasing a bully. Willingly cutting profits is a great way for a CEO to lose his/her job...

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2025-05-19 01:12 PM | Reply

Every f'n idiot knows this, but still Trump lied about it. I get why he tried; it's a way to lower the debt without cutting spending, but it was always doomed. Like a salesman, Trump knows how to promote. But, after the sale, his execution sucks. It always has. I'll be f'n joyful when this era of magical thinking is finished. Trump is a coward. Make the f'n cuts or STFU.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-05-19 01:26 PM | Reply

I suspect that WalMart's executive team will focus on shareholder value, rather than appeasing a bully. Willingly cutting profits is a great way for a CEO to lose his/her job...

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2025-05-19 01:12 PM

Walmart's CFO said that they might hold off on raising the prices of some products so as to gain more market share as the smaller retailers won't be able to absorb the price increases as well as they can. And yet people still wonder why so many despise Walmart and have sworn to never shop there (I can count on one hand the number of times that I've been inside a Walmart store).

OCU

#8 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-05-19 01:50 PM | Reply

Remember when republicans pretended to care about small businesses.

That was before they became the party of the oligarchs.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-19 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donnie Six Bankruptcies Berates Companies for Warning About Tariffs

www.nytimes.com

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-05-19 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And his 7th is in progress.

#11 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-05-19 05:47 PM | Reply

Stupid people think Trump has some sort of inside information. He loves having stupid followers, because they don't question the moron in charge.

Hey, stupids: Do we still have chemtrails? Of not, when did they stop? If so, is Trump doing them?

#12 | Posted by cbob at 2025-05-19 07:56 PM | Reply

When the liberals were crying about Trump hurting pharmaceutical company profits by not allowing them to charge 3x more in the US than in Europe - I thought the Democrats had achieved 'peak stupidity' - yet, here we are with the Democrats now crying about Trump hurting Walmart's profit margin.

Who could have ever predicted this?

Dems are now: against removing taxes on tips an OT
Dems are now: pro-war, especially in Ukraine
Dems are now: for pharmaceutical companies reaping windfall profits on the US
Dems are now: against Walmart's profit margin declining to encourage them to move off of nearly all of their products being made in China
Dems are now: for keeping illegal, wife beating gang members in the country
Dems are now: against ANY and ALL cuts to US government spending
Dems are now: against free speech

You have -------- have literally morphed into the 1980's GOP. Congrats.

#13 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-19 11:30 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY SCOTTSy

AI tell you that? That's too much for your GED brain to produce.

You should try a different search prompt and see what else you discover.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-19 11:46 PM | Reply

"#14 | Posted by ClownShack"

Tell me which statement is wrong -------. I could replace Democrats with 'militant homosexual Clownshack' and it would still be 100% correct.

Also, you crying about AI is funny - as I said, AI is where liberal talking points go to die. The crying is similar to when you -------s lost control of Twitter.

#15 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-19 11:55 PM | Reply


But will Trumpers ever figure out that consumers pay tariff taxes?
#3 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

About the same time Lumpers figure out that consumer pay corporate taxes.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-20 12:39 AM | Reply

Tariff taxes are corporate taxes.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 12:45 AM | Reply

"Dems are now: against removing taxes on tips an OT"

It's weird how you just can't stop lying.

You should really speak to a mental health professional.

"Ending taxes on tips has bipartisan support from politicians, voters, industry trade groups and Nevada's largest labor union, but tax policy experts have warned that there could be consequences, as previously reported by USA TODAY."

www.usatoday.com

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 01:14 AM | Reply

"#18 | Posted by snoofy"

We will see a vote on it shortly - I suspect we will have near 100% Democrat opposition. What do you predict?

#19 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-20 02:12 AM | Reply

I predict that Americans will pay for Trump's tariffs.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2025-05-20 02:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I predict that Americans will pay for Trump's tariffs.

Of course they will.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-20 02:53 AM | Reply

I predict that Americans will pay for Trump's tariffs.

Of course they will.
#21 | POSTED BY REDIAL

We already are.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-20 12:53 PM | Reply

Tell me which statement is wrong -------.
#15 | POSTED BY SCOTTSy

All of it. Every single sentence.

Which is why one makes outrageous claims.

To troll.

Everything you post is a desperate cry for attention.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-20 12:56 PM | Reply

We will see a vote on it shortly - I suspect we will have near 100% Democrat opposition. What do you predict?

#19 | Posted by ScottS

Even you aren't stupid enough to believe this.

#24 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-05-20 01:07 PM | Reply

He's a Trumper with a GED who thinks four years of college is higher education and who recently discovered ChatGPT.

Of course deplorable Trumping MAGAt, ScottSy is that stupid.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-20 01:10 PM | Reply

If Dems have morphed into 1980s GOP, then the GOP has morphed into 1930's Nazis.. Sieg heil!

#26 | Posted by HeeHaw at 2025-05-20 05:31 PM | Reply

"All of it. Every single sentence.
#23 | Posted by ClownShack"

Let's check this:
Dems are now: against removing taxes on tips an OT - this will vote nearly 100% against this soon
Dems are now: pro-war, especially in Ukraine - Democrats are not for funding and escalating the war in Ukraine? Really?
Dems are now: for pharmaceutical companies reaping windfall profits on the US - We just had this article within the week and the Dems all lined up saying it was a bad idea to control their pricing
Dems are now: against Walmart's profit margin declining to encourage them to move off of nearly all of their products being made in China - There is an article on this right now with the Dems all wanting Walmart to pass costs onto consumers vs. eating the tariffs themselves and lowering profits
Dems are now: for keeping illegal, wife beating gang members in the country - Hello? 'Maryland Man' ring a bell?
Dems are now: against ANY and ALL cuts to US government spending - your universal screeching about DOGE proves this
Dems are now: against free speech - nothing further needs to be said on this. It is true on its face.

So, once again, you make a fine militant homosexual but a lousy debater.

#27 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-20 08:54 PM | Reply

"He's a Trumper with a GED who thinks four years of college is higher education and who recently discovered ChatGPT.
#25 | Posted by ClownShack"

LOL. 4 years of college is HIGHER EDUCATION by definition ------- regardless of how much liberals try to destroy the 'education' part of it. Second, I have an advanced degree. 3rd, I use Grok as ChatGPT is woke.

So, you made 4 claims in that sentence and only had 25% of them correct. Pretty standard for a liberal loser angry and jealous at their betters. Try harder in life - do better - and your jealousy and depression will lessen. I would also suggest that you stop taking it in the tail pipe and your mood and success will likely improve. In general, people don't mind homosexuals. But, NO ONE like a militant homosexual - not even other homosexuals.

#28 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-20 09:00 PM | Reply

@#27, 28

So, the deflection attempts of your current alias seem to implicitly admit that Pres Trump was wrong all along.

And that Americans, not the exporting countries, pay the tariffs?


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 09:29 PM | Reply

" Dems are now: against removing taxes on tips an OT"

Why should one kind of work be taxed, while another worker's labor is mostly tax-free?

In a related set of questions ...

Is every hour I bill after 8 in a day, or 40 in a week tax-free? Because that means A LOT of tax free income, especially in March and April.

Also ... can I charge minimum wage for tax prep, solicit tips, and keep only the clients who are my best tippers?

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 11:31 PM | Reply

"Also ... can I charge minimum wage for tax prep, solicit tips, and keep only the clients who are my best tippers?

------- - you were exposed. Why you want to cosplay as a 'tax preparer' on this website is beyond me - You have demonstrated a lack of understanding of even basic elements of the tax code (such as claiming a majority of the individual tax provisions under the Trump tax cuts have expired - when NOT A SINGLE ONE has). So - in your case? Sure, keep the pretend clients you have that only pay you in tips. Then send the IRS your pretend taxes. If you want to make sure what you are doing it legal, ask pretend lawyer LegallyRetarded to double-check them for you.

"Why should one kind of work be taxed, while another worker's labor is mostly tax-free?
#30 | Posted by Danforth"

1.) Because of the lower minimum wage assigned to jobs like waitressing.
2.) Because this would make the US tax system even more progressive - something the Democrats claim to want
3.) Because we should encourage people working overtime and reward them for it as it gives our corporations more flexibility in workforce management and reduce the likelihood of layoffs due to the business cycle slowing. In essence, with increasing compensation for overtime, it will also lead to a higher wage/hour of work as more overtime hours will be desired by workers.

#31 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 12:11 AM | Reply

" NOT A SINGLE ONE has"

Look up deductibility of PMI, dipschitt.

Also, look how thresholds like inheritance taxes keep rising every year, while the income cap for taxable Social Security income hasn't risen since its inception.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 12:23 AM | Reply

Danforth,

A good-natured question:

Which topics (across all spectrums, not just political) do you enjoy discussing more than the tax code?

Not a gotcha. Just curious.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-21 12:26 AM | Reply

" Because of the lower minimum wage assigned to jobs like waitressing."

What about the waitstaff at high-end restaurants?

My older brother and SIL are both retired doctors, with no kids. My brother has also been a very good investor; he was one of the first classes trained on computers, and he thought Microsoft and Dell would be good investments.

Suffice to say, they eat out ~5x a week, and I've seen them drop $2000-$3000 without batting an eye. In fact, the's usually over $500 by the end of the first drink order.

My point in all this is, if you amalgamated all their waitstaff over a 12-month period into one person, that server is making MORE THAN YOU EARN IN A YEAR.

Why should YOUR work be subject to income tax, but not theirs???

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 12:36 AM | Reply

" Because this would make the US tax system even more progressive "

No it wouldn't. The richest waitstaff would get the biggest benefits.

" Because we should encourage people working overtime "

Again: does this mean anything over 8 hours in a workday, or 40 in a week isn't subject to income taxes???

My first day off each year is April 17th. By that point, everyone with a regular job has had OVER A MONTH OFF.

That's a lot of tax-free income.

And how about mixing? What if my policy is minimum wage plus tips when I'm within my 8or40, but double the old rate (currently $150-175) for hours past 8 or 40? Legal???

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 12:45 AM | Reply

"Look up deductibility of PMI
#32 | Posted by Danforth"

Just did - nothing to do with the Trump tax cuts -------. You want to try again? Or maybe link to some corporate features that were temporary measures due to covid that expired (nothing to due to Trump tax cuts) that you tried to lie about being individual provisions - AGAIN.

I know this must be hard for you after years of cosplaying as a 'tax preparer'. But again, you could always shut me up by linking to a single individual related provision of the Trump tax cuts that has expired - I am not even asking your to prove your prior lie of 'most' - just a single one will do.

#36 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 12:45 AM | Reply

"Because this would make the US tax system even more progressive"
No it wouldn't. The richest waitstaff would get the biggest benefits."

You are now claiming that waitstaff are in the top 10% of wage earners or something?

Tell me ------- - why would you support raising the minimum wage but NOT reducing taxes on tips? It makes no logical sense if you believe in a progressive tax system and helping working class people.

"Because we should encourage people working overtime "
Again: does this mean anything over 8 hours in a workday, or 40 in a week isn't subject to income taxes???"

40 hours a week -------.

"My first day off each year is April 17th. By that point, everyone with a regular job has had OVER A MONTH OFF.
#35 | Posted by Danforth"

JHC - tell the bathhouse to give you Christmas off next year. Your jaw must be killing you.

#37 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 12:50 AM | Reply

"Which topics"

Travel
Food
Sports

Taxes are a lifelong issue; as a longtime preparer, I find a lot of ignorance and misinformation; it's my job to correct inaccurate positions, and explain some deep-weeds equations. That certainly carries over to this blog.

I'll also add macrostatistics. It was my favorite part of math, since slicing off zeros leaves a ratio (read: conclusion) impossible to rebut.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 12:53 AM | Reply

" JHC - tell the bathhouse to give you Christmas off next year."

Sorry ... closeted dude says what?

What's the latest over/under regarding gay references on your landing page?

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 12:56 AM | Reply

does this mean anything over 8 hours in a workday, or 40 in a week isn't subject to income taxes???"

"40 hours a week"

Excellent! I'll average 15-20 tax-free hours a week in February, 25-30 tax-free hours a week in March, and 40-60 tax-free hrs a week in April.

Thanks to YOU for paying MY taxes! Woo Hoo!!!

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:02 AM | Reply

" You are now claiming that waitstaff are in the top 10% of wage earners or something?"

At the restaurants my brother and I frequent? Absolutely.

Are you saying certain waitstaff SHOULD have to pay taxes on tips???

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:04 AM | Reply

" I know this must be hard for you after years of cosplaying as a 'tax preparer'"

Imagine how stunned my longtime clients will be!

I'm guessing almost as stunned as my last two IRS agents were, when I had to correct each of their mistakes.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:07 AM | Reply

@#37 ... JHC - tell the bathhouse to give you Christmas off next year. ...

Really?

That seems to be the best your trolling alias can surface?

I mean, really.


Wow, just ------- wow.

#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-21 01:11 AM | Reply

"" You are now claiming that waitstaff are in the top 10% of wage earners or something?"
#41 | Posted by Danforth"

Top 10% is $150,000 as an individual - you would know this if you actually were a tax preparer as opposed to just cosplaying as one. Now, if they work at a multiple Michelin star locations, they may come close to that - but, I still doubt it. Just because someone cleans up on a Friday and Saturday night does not mean they make that 5 or 7 days per week. Also, with tip pooling and tipping out the back of house, I doubt that are taking home $150K. But, as you deal in fantasy land - yeah, sure. They are making well over $150K annually and you are the finest pretend tax preparer in the land.

#44 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 01:16 AM | Reply

" Just did - nothing to do with the Trump tax cuts -------"

Did Grok tell you that? The same Grok that didn't know corporate tax cuts had been made permanent? The same Grok that doesn't include stationary caps as annual increased tax burden? The same one you forgot to tell to add interest on the cost of the tax cuts? The same one who left out tax cuts to foreign investors? The same Grok that didn't include long-term REITs? The same Grok that can't tell the difference between debt held by individuals, and debt owned by those individuals through pass-through companies???

I'm guessing you didn't put in all the correct factors and parameters.

Garbage in, Garbage out.

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:17 AM | Reply

"" I know this must be hard for you after years of cosplaying as a 'tax preparer'"
Imagine how stunned my longtime clients will be!
#42 | Posted by Danforth"

When/If you finally land your first non-imaginary client, I do suspect they will be stunned at your incompetence....especially if you explain to them all the extra tax they owe for 2024 due to the Trump cuts having already expired. I am sure that will truly stun them.

#46 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 01:18 AM | Reply

Garbage in, Garbage out.

You should lighten up on this kid before he starts cutting himself.

#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-21 01:23 AM | Reply

"Did Grok tell you that? The same Grok that didn't know corporate tax cuts had been made permanent?"

Grok did know that - which I already posted debunking this nonsense talking point.

"The same Grok that doesn't include stationary caps as annual increased tax burden?"

That is an Expired Tax cut? You really are reaching now -------.

"The same one you forgot to tell to add interest on the cost of the tax cuts?"

I already spiked the football on this topic. Even Snoofy called you a liar. You are best to put down the shovel on this topic.

"I'm guessing you didn't put in all the correct factors and parameters.
#45 | Posted by Danforth"

You have embarrassed yourself on that point already. However, if you do want to actually redeem yourself - link to a single article that states "the .1% received the majority of the Trump tax cuts" - barring that, just STFU about it as you have LOST THE ARGUMENT.

While posting - you can again (challenged for the 10th time) - list a single individual provision (non-corporate) of the Trump tax cuts that has already expired. You stated 'most' - I will even let that slide and settle for a SINGLE INDIVIDUAL PROVISION.

Have at it -------.

#48 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 01:24 AM | Reply

" You are now claiming that waitstaff are in the top 10% of wage earners or something?"

No, dumbfuq. I'm just trying to say the six-figure waiter will benefit A LOT MORE than the one who makes $23,000 per year.

That's not "progressive" in the least.

And the waitress making $23,000/ year pays LESS THAN $1,000 per year in income tax. Sure, she'll save that $1,000; meanwhile, the high-end waiter will save 25 times that.

Why haven't you addressed the central question: should someone earning more than you get their income tax-free?

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:26 AM | Reply

" link to a single article that states "the .1% received the majority of the Trump tax cuts"

I've already shown my math, based on the Tax Policy Center numbers. TPS is rated the LEAST BIASED when it comes to reporting facts. Your article first left out foreign investors, then didn't include the cost of the back-end interest. Nor did it include the REIT costs over the long term. Then when it came to who got the interest, you only included DIRECT ownership by the wealthiest, not direct AND INDIRECT.

In short, your ignorance of all the aspects is GLARING.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:37 AM | Reply


@#48 ... You have embarrassed yourself ...

Based upon this conversation, I have to ask ... projecting?

#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-21 01:42 AM | Reply

"Grok did know that"

No it didn't. The wording regarding permanent corporate tax cuts was "if that happens".

AFTER it happened.

And since you clearly don't understand how stationary caps are annual tax increases, let me ask this way: if you saved $150 annually from the Trump tax cuts, and Trump's stationary caps ended up costing you an additional $200/yr ...

Are you still saving money based on Trump's tax code?

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:46 AM | Reply

Workers barely benefited from Trump's sweeping tax cut, investigation shows (2019)
www.theguardian.com

... Big companies drove Donald Trump's tax cut law but refused to commit to any specific wage hikes for workers, despite repeated White House promises it would help employees, an investigation shows.

The 2017 Tax and Jobs Act -- the Trump administration's one major piece of enacted legislation -- did deliver the biggest corporate tax cut in US history, but ultimately workers benefited almost not at all.

This is one of the conclusions of a six-month investigation into the process that led to the tax cut by the Center for Public Integrity, a not-for-profit news agency based in Washington DC.

The full findings, based on interviews with three dozen key players and independent tax experts, and analysis of hundreds of pages of government documents, are published today in an in-depth piece. ...


#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-21 01:47 AM | Reply

" Big companies drove Donald Trump's tax cut law but refused to commit to any specific wage hikes for workers, despite repeated White House promises it would help employees"

That's because they're idiots.

Cutting corporate taxes DISINCENTIVIZES reinvestment, be it employees, training, or facilities. And it INCENTIVIZES taking money OUT of the business.

These morons thought incentivizing taking money out, would lead to more money in.

MORONS.

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 01:55 AM | Reply

" but ultimately workers benefited almost not at all."

Workers were set to get an extra $15 in their two-week paycheck, and the White House was aghast, until Mnuchin said he could make it $50.

But how? "Where will you get the money?

FROM THEIR WALLETS!

Withholding rates were lowered MORE than tax rates were. I had to send out a missive to my clients, warning them of dramatically different results upcoming.

Clients averaged about $300-500/person worse outcome at filing than expected. Not awful, but shocking to a couple used to a $300 refund, who now owe $700.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 02:03 AM | Reply

" I will even let that slide and settle for a SINGLE INDIVIDUAL PROVISION."

Bonus depreciation.

And don't be a moron and suggest that's only for corporations. My self-employed clients took full advantage when they could.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 02:08 AM | Reply

Not awful, but shocking to a couple used to a $300 refund, who now owe $700.

^
"Only The Weak Will Fail!"

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-21 02:53 AM | Reply

" When/If you finally land your first non-imaginary client ... "

Your desperation is palpable.

And laughable, frankly!

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 03:09 AM | Reply

"And since you clearly don't understand how stationary caps are annual tax increase
#52 | Posted by Danforth"

I perfectly understand that - what I don't understand is why you are putting this forth as an example of a Trump tax cut that has expired. As our entire conversation is about trump tax cuts that have expired, I would expect you to state a TAX CUT THAT EXPIRED. This is the basis for debate - your response has to be pertain to the subject at hand.

#59 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 03:37 AM | Reply

"Bonus depreciation.
#56 | Posted by Danforth"

Well, for starters it is in a phase out stage and not expired. Second, this is a corporate targeted provision (including individuals running their own business) like real estate as it requires the property to be used in income generating activities. So, NOT EXPIRED, NOT INDIVIDUAL FOCUSED, NOT A MAJORITY OF THE TAX CUTS.

#60 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-21 03:48 AM | Reply

" #38 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-05-21 12:53 AM | FLAG: "

Cool deal. Thanks for answering.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-21 06:50 PM | Reply

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