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Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said President Donald Trump "has pushed the US into another war."

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And Iran now has all the motivation and concrete justification to take them.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-22 12:23 PM | Reply

Anyone think that Trump factored in this possibility when he started this war?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-22 12:28 PM | Reply

And Iran now has all the motivation and concrete justification to take them.
#1 | Posted by Zed

An escalation of prior unspoken Russian policy. Previously Russia was helping Iran make its own, now it's admitting to giving them outright.

US, UK fears Russia may be helping Iran's nuclear weapons program
nypost.com, Sep. 15, 2024

MAGAts everywhere celebrate that Putin's Beach will bend over and take it.

#3 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-22 12:31 PM | Reply

Iran Foreign Minister says Russia would give them Nukes

Of course, the correct response would be for Trump to give Ukraine back the nukes that they surrendered back in the 90s, when Russia falsely promised to respect its territorial integrity.

But Putin's Beach would never dream of challenging his Midget Master.

#4 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-22 12:36 PM | Reply

the correct response would be for Trump to give Ukraine back the nukes that they surrendered back in the 90s,

#4 | Posted by censored

Trump won't support Ukraine, wanting Russia to win.

Russia won't support the US, wanting Iran to win.

Donald is in entirely over his head.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-22 12:53 PM | Reply

Hold on a second here Censored ... the viewpoint of the Left has been that Iran wasn't pursuing nukes. Yet we have a foreign minister stating the exact opposite. Which is it?

Also I don't know why the senile boomer who needs meds is over here commenting on this.

#6 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 01:05 PM | Reply

Hold on a second here Censored ... the viewpoint of the Left has been that Iran wasn't pursuing nukes. Yet we have a foreign minister stating the exact opposite. Which is it?
#6 | Posted by Bluewaffles

I have no idea who "the Left" is (It used to be me, but apparently not anymore since I don't believe that there are more genders than the color of the rainbow (sex=gender), don't agree that peeps with penises should be competing against ladies in sports (since that seems to be the GOP's divisive issue of the day), and I don't give oral loving to Palestinian terrorists or cry for them when they reap the whirlwind they pleaded for).

But it was crystal clear to anyone who looked, that Iran possessed material that was enriched far more than needed for peaceful purposes. Perhaps to make nukes. Perhaps to keep that door open to create strategic ambiguity, since sponsoring and ordering decades of terrorist attacks on the civilian population of their only neighbor with a nuclear program could have created a need for that deterrence.

#7 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-22 01:24 PM | Reply

- the viewpoint of the Left has been that Iran wasn't pursuing nukes.

Nope. Missed again. The viewpoint from the Left has been that Trump should never have killed the Sanctions on Iran, but since he did, although there isn't direct evidence that Iran was moving towards a Bomb, there was indirect indications that they may well have been, that according to the Dir of the IAEA just now on CNN.

Trump lied to you about what would happen if he removed Sanctions, just like he lied to you about building a Wall that Mexico would pay for, and about the Election being rigged.

Not to mention the literally 10's of thousands of other lies he's told you and you have swallowed whole.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-22 01:25 PM | Reply

Fair enough censored, well you're always welcome on this side of the fence haha.

As for you Corky, the "sanctions" weren't doing ---- to stop them from acquiring nukes and the left didn't have the balls to do what Trump just did.

#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 01:46 PM | Reply

"the "sanctions" weren't doing ---- to stop them from acquiring nukes"

Nonsense. For the first time, the US was able to monitor the supply chains of nuclear programs.. It was actually a diplomatic breakthrough; anyone who talks trash about the deal is clueless.

But Trump dumped it...because Obama.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-22 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- the "sanctions" weren't

Dead wrong yet again; they allowed IAEA Inspections that allowed us a much better idea of whether there was a Plan to develop nuclear weapons or not.... which Trump's OWN Cabinet told him there was no such evidence.

- the left didn't have the balls

The left had the brains not to just voluntarily for no reason at all stop doing Inspections which would allow us a better idea of what the Iranian's goals were in the nuclear facilities.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-22 01:57 PM | Reply

didn't have the balls to do what Trump just did.

#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Just like no one had the balls to do what George W. did.

You people were, and are, neocons.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-22 01:59 PM | Reply

Zed, go take your pills and see yourself out of this discussion.

#13 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 02:05 PM | Reply

Corky, the IAEA literally released a report days ago confirming suspicions that the Iranian Regime was producing Uranium for purposes that wouldn't be used for power. They were clearly making a bomb and we just put a stop to it. If you want to be an Iran apologist, go book yourself a flight to Tehran, I'm sure they'd love to behead you.

#14 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 02:09 PM | Reply

Corky, the IAEA literally released a report days ago confirming suspicions that the Iranian Regime was producing Uranium for purposes that wouldn't be used for power. They were clearly making a bomb and we just put a stop to it. If you want to be an Iran apologist, go book yourself a flight to Tehran, I'm sure they'd love to behead you.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 02:09 PM | Reply

LMFAO Sure they were. They've been saying that for a while now. Simply not true.

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-22 02:15 PM | Reply

They (Iran) were clearly making a bomb and we just put a stop to it

#14 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Or just made it infinitely more urgent for them to get one.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-22 02:23 PM | Reply

IAEA literally released a report days ago

The one that said "we do not have any indication that there is a systemic program in Iran to manufacture a nuclear weapon"?

#17 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-22 02:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fair enough censored, well you're always welcome on this side of the fence haha.
#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Thanks!

Unfortunately, I'm too liberal for that (believe in allowing women autonomy over their bodies, don't hate the gheys, don't care for christianists, become physically ill at MAGAt blind obedience to the worst, most corrupt, and most unsuitable person to ever hold the office of president in my lifetime (if not the history of the United States), believe in government providing the tools people need to reach their abilities (e.g., medical care, schooling, housing), etc.).

But who knows, maybe I'll end up on that side eventually, as some of the libs are doing their best to push me in that direction with the terrorist coddling, multi-gender brainwashing, political correctness-shaming, and so on).

#18 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-22 02:25 PM | Reply

"an Iran apologist"

All that's being said is that Donald Trump, who can't think his way out of a paper bag, is going to ef things up, and---

That you neocons haven't changed any of your stripes since 2003.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-22 02:26 PM | Reply

@#14 ... the IAEA literally released a report days ago confirming suspicions that the Iranian Regime was producing Uranium for purposes that wouldn't be used for power. ...

Here's a search of the IAEA website for comments about Iran for the year 2025.
www.iaea.org

To which does your current alias' comment refer?


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 07:38 PM | Reply

This one Lamp: ibb.co

#21 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 08:33 PM | Reply

To which does your current alias' comment refer?
#20 | Posted by LampLighter

Maybe this one?:

Damning IAEA report spells out past secret nuclear activities in Iran
Iran carried out secret nuclear activities with material not declared to the U.N. nuclear watchdog at three locations that have long been under investigation, the watchdog said in a wide-ranging, confidential report to member states seen by Reuters.

A separate IAEA report sent to member states on Saturday said Iran's stock of uranium enriched to up to 60% purity, close to the roughly 90% of weapons grade, had grown by roughly half to 408.6 kg. That is enough, if enriched further, for nine nuclear weapons, according to an IAEA yardstick. Both IAEA reports said enrichment to such a high level was "of serious concern" since it is the only country to do so without producing nuclear weapons.
www.reuters.com, May 31, 2025

Which resulted in this:
IAEA board declares Iran in breach of non-proliferation obligations
The U.N. nuclear watchdog's 35-nation Board of Governors declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations on Thursday for the first time in almost 20 years, raising the prospect of reporting it to the U.N. Security Council.
www.reuters.com, June 12, 2025

#22 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-22 10:25 PM | Reply

@#21

So your current alias seems to admit it has nothing.

Quelle surprise.

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 10:26 PM | Reply

@#22

Thanks for that reply.

Yeah, I have to say, I was aware of those reports, but I just wanted to see if the Bluewaffles alias was just trolling or trying to contribute.

It's #21 reply seems to confirm my view that it just trolls here on this most august site.


#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 10:32 PM | Reply

Thanks for showing your hand Lamp.

#25 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 10:34 PM | Reply

@#25 ... Thanks for showing your hand Lamp ...

I do not disagree.

Yup, I showed my opinion in #24.

I also note that your current trolling alias has posted nothing to contradict the opinion I expressed in #24.

Reinforcing the opinion I expressed in #24?




#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 11:16 PM | Reply

You're aware of the reports already, then act like they don't exist. What's your point?

#27 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-22 11:52 PM | Reply

@#27 ... What's your point? ...

Simple, I expect an alias to provide substantiation of what it posts.

And, your trolling alias seems to have failed that simple criterion.

I even did some research for it in #20.

But your current alias, instead appreciating what I had done for it, seems to have gone on the attack.

In its #14 post, it stated ...

... Corky, the IAEA literally released a report days ago confirming suspicions ...

Yet, I still have not seen any manner of substantiation of that post from your trolling alias. I gave it a chance to post substantiation, but it demurred.

Instead, there seems to be this ~why me~ deflection attempt.



#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 12:31 AM | Reply


... and going back to the topic of this thread it posted, instead of its deflection attempts ...

Several countries ready to supply nuclear warheads to Iran': Top Putin aide amid US strikes on Tehran
indianexpress.com

... Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has said that several countries are poised to directly provide Iran with their nuclear warheads amid US strikes on Iran's three nuclear sites, Isfahan, Natanz and Fordow and added that it is US President Donald Trump who has "pushed America into another war".

The deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia, Medvedev, outlined his views in a series of posts on X on what the Trump administration's strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities accomplished for the US. "The enrichment of nuclear material and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons will continue," said Medvedev. ...


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 12:41 AM | Reply


Simple, I expect an alias to provide substantiation of what it posts.
~ Gaslighter

Why? You don't even do this yourself.

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-23 12:44 AM | Reply

@#30

Troll much?

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 12:45 AM | Reply

I'm a bit curious if someone did, and probably will, give Iran a nuke or two. What exactly would they do with it/them? Offensively speaking?

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 12:51 AM | Reply

@#32 ... if someone did, and probably will, give Iran a nuke or two. What exactly would they do with it/them? ...

My first guess would be along the lines of ...

If Iran had had nuclear weapon capabilities, Israel likely would have taken a vastly different approach.


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:03 AM | Reply

@#33 ... If Iran had had nuclear weapon capabilities, Israel likely would have taken a vastly different approach. ...

And, if I may add to that ...

Is Iran now more determined than ever to develop nuclear weapons?


Asked differently, what are the longer-term effects of this transactional 4D Chess action?



#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:15 AM | Reply

If Iran had had nuclear weapon capabilities, Israel likely would have taken a vastly different approach.

I'm not so sure. It's not like they are doing any heavy lifting in all of this.

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 01:21 AM | Reply

@#35 ... I'm not so sure. It's not like they are doing any heavy lifting in all of this. ...

Currently, I'd agree.

But, going forward, there are many questions ...

For example ...

Will there be a regime change?

If so, who (or what entity) might replace the current regime?

Will the citizens of Iran get to decide on that possible regime change, or will the hard-liners continue to xert their control?

OK, I'll stop with that ....


#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-23 01:36 AM | Reply

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