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Wednesday, July 09, 2025

The latest workforce data suggests that American workers have been the main beneficiaries in the labor market amid the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration. The Labor Department's jobs report for the month of June showed that the number of foreign-born workers declined by 348,000 from May " while the number of foreign-born workers has declined by more than 543,000 jobs since January. By contrast, the number of U.S.-born workers increased by 830,000 from May to June, and is also over 2 million higher than when the second Trump administration began in January.

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"American-born workers have accounted for ALL of the job gains since President Trump took office and wages continue to rise," Leavitt said, adding that the "economy is booming again" and will accelerate further following passage of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

Just as predicted BY ME - deport the illegals and AMERICAN CITIZENS DO THE JOBS + WAGES RISE. Basically, everything the dipshit liberals predicted would happen - didn't.

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+ WAGES RISE

So is inflation.

Predictably.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-09 01:48 PM | Reply

Funny how only the state media outlet Fox News is saying that.

Everyone else is saying the report isn't a good one.

Also funny is that I'm looking at the report and don't see this trend indicated anywhere.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-09 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's Trump data.

Accurately assumed to be self-serving lies.

For the self-serving liar.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-09 03:34 PM | Reply

thedeepdive.ca

147,000 jobs
70,000+ jump in state and local education jobs (summer student jobs for university students)

Only 74,000 jobs outside of government (79% was in healthcare, again think university students)
That's HALF of what May was.

Outside of healthcare, we added only 14,000 jobs... 2nd straight month of manufacturing job losses too. That's a really bad sign.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-07-09 04:17 PM | Reply

Squats the ------- liar.

Go tell Jeff to shoot himself. Put the gun in your mouth, traitor, and pull the trigger.

No one will miss you.

You pathetic loser.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-09 05:05 PM | Reply

At the top of the comments section there is a bit of text. Part of it reads " abusive conduct is not allowed."
I have often wondered what kind of conduct would be considered abusive.

#6 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2025-07-09 06:15 PM | Reply

Posting these ------- MAGAT fascist lies.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-09 06:47 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Funny how only the state media outlet Fox News is saying that. ...

Yup. and that article (OpEd?) seems to be remarkably devoid of any links to back up the specific data it cites.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 07:02 PM | Reply

Ah, it's ScottS's daily troll thread. He's ALREADY WON THE DEBATE!!!!

HE'S DESTROYED ALL ARGUMENTS WITH FACTS!!!

Did I miss anything?

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-09 07:08 PM | Reply

He TOOK A SHOWER with the FACTS!

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-09 07:12 PM | Reply

He TOOK A SHOWER with the FACTS!

He molested THE FACTS?? LOCK HIM UP IN A CAGE!!!!

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-09 07:15 PM | Reply

"Also funny is that I'm looking at the report and don't see this trend indicated anywhere.
#2 | Posted by jpw"

Of course YOU can't - you could not find your own ass using both hands as proven here daily.

They are referring to the BLS reports which I have referenced here many times which clearly breaks out employment of native born vs. foreign born.

Here is the latest report: www.bls.gov
Here is the end of Jan 2025 report: www.bls.gov

In each, find Table 7 and the subtract the 2 numbers for the change.

And exactly as stated, for the first time in years, native born employment is growing - by 2M so far under Trump. Trump is doing what liberals said was impossible. I remember not long ago - ------- Danforth said this was impossible as native born will decline due to boomer retirement so it is not possible to reverse the trend - much like everything he says - that is now clearly proven to be wrong.

For JPW, stick to talking about incompetence in research labs causing global pandemics, this economics stuff is beyond your intelligence level.

#12 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 07:29 PM | Reply

"HE'S DESTROYED ALL ARGUMENTS WITH FACTS!!!
Did I miss anything?
#9 | Posted by REDIAL"

I give you -------- a little rope to hang yourselves and you do exactly that.

Look at my #12. You -------- can't believe the data to be true because it hurts your fee-fees, but then I go and crush you again by - AS ALWAYS - bringing actual FACTS to the argument.

Rinse and repeat with you -------- liberals.

Now, let's see you resort to the last line of ------- liberal defense against the truth: saying that Trump is forcing the BLS to lie. I see ------- Zed going that route already. Join your fellow ------- Canadian in repeating this nonsense.

#13 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 07:35 PM | Reply

#9 | Posted by REDIAL

Typical Canuck, just yelling and screaming while tilting at windmills.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-09 07:38 PM | Reply

Oh look, ScottS and the ---------- "pilot" once again show up at the same time.

LOL. Carry on...

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-09 07:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#13 ... I give you dipshits a little rope to hang yourselves and you do exactly that. ...

Or maybe ...

The objections raised here made your current alias dig deeper and post the inks that should have been in the original post?


... find Table 7 ...

I don't see a Table 7 in either.

I see a Table A-7.

Is that what your current alias' comment refers to?

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 07:42 PM | Reply

@#13 ... I give you -------- a little rope to hang yourselves and you do exactly that. ...

So, trolling?

Good to see your current alias admit it.


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 07:45 PM | Reply

"The objections raised here made your current alias dig deeper and post the inks that should have been in the original post?"

I posted the original article dipshit - that is sufficient for most non-smooth brained Americans to accept as the truth. I went above and beyond in my follow-up so I could, once again, spike the football in your dipshit faces.

"Is that what your current alias' comment refers to?
#16 | Posted by LampLighter "

Ya think?

Do you want me to come shove your nose into it for you?

#18 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 07:51 PM | Reply

"#15 | Posted by REDIAL"

How about you make your first fact filled post on this website by admitting that I was correct - AGAIN?

#19 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 07:52 PM | Reply

"+ WAGES RISE
So is inflation.
Predictably.
#1 | Posted by jpw"

I should have addressed this dipshit post first but I wanted to give the source of the numbers before you dipshits kill anyone else's brain cells with your dull-normal posting.

Inflation under Trump is running at ~1.6% (annualized). This is a very low compared to the HUGE wage gains - which is why Trump has delivered the best REAL wage gains of any president in the last 60 years.

That inflation due to tariffs? Yeah - still didn't happen dipshit.

Put your fee-fees to the side and let's stick to facts here.

#20 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 07:55 PM | Reply

@#18 ... I posted the original article ...

Yes, your current trolling alias did.

And as I noted in #17 ...

... @#13 ... I give you -------- a little rope to hang yourselves and you do exactly that. ...

So, trolling?

Good to see your current alias admit it. ...


So, your current trolling apparently knew of the dearth of data (a little rope) in the article and posted it for replies (you do exactly that), but not to inform.

Good to see your current trolling apparently admit that.

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 08:09 PM | Reply

REAL wage gains

"REAL" = "Imaginary, cherry picked".

#22 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-09 08:09 PM | Reply

""REAL" = "Imaginary, cherry picked".
#22 | Posted by REDIAL"

"Real" = Nominal - Inflation

Hope this helps dipshit. Now, post how you dipshits were wrong AGAIN and just got the football spiked in your stupid faces, AGAIN. Facts are Facts - and I always bring them.

#23 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:14 PM | Reply

"#21 | Posted by LampLighter"

I post nothing but facts - I don't give 2 shits if your fee-fees get hurt in the process.

Now, you can post different stats refuting mine - or - you can say that I am correct. No other comment has any validity to this discussion.

#24 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:16 PM | Reply

Inflation under Trump is running at ~1.6% (annualized).

Nope. Been bracketing 3% s^*%bag.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-09 08:17 PM | Reply

"Nope. Been bracketing 3% s^*%bag.
#25 | Posted by jpw"

Dipshit - you get are ass-kicked in every debate that we have. You really think I am throwing out an unsupported statistic now?

I will provide for you the actual numbers though - BUT - I want you to admit that I was 100% correct with my statements with regard to the native and foreign born jobs numbers that you "couldn't find (understand)" as posted in your #2. Let's have some accountability for your prior stupidity, then we can move on to your current stupidity.

#26 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:21 PM | Reply


What to know about the Trump administration's favorite economic data point
www.axios.com

... The Trump administration has a new favorite talking point on the economy: That blue-collar wages are rising the most, in inflation-adjusted terms, at the start of a presidential administration in modern history.

The big picture: The data reflect solid wage growth paired with low inflation through the first five months of 2025. ...

Driving the news: The analysis, and chart shown above, was generated by the Treasury Department and has been promoted on the White House website, the president's Truth Social feed, and amplified in certain media.

- - - "We've seen real wages for hourly workers, non-supervisory workers, rise almost 2% in the first five months," Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told the New York Post. "No president has done that before."

By the numbers: The data in question is average hourly earnings for production and nonsupervisory workers -- a good proxy for private-sector working-class wages -- deflated by the Consumer Price Index.

- - - From December through May, that wage measure rose by 1.7%, comfortably outstripping the 0.9% increase in consumer prices. Treasury converted that improvement in real wages over five months to an annual rate.

- - - It works out to a 1.7% annual rate of real wage increases, which compares favorably with the first five months of the Biden administration (when inflation significantly outstripped wage hikes), and all other comparable periods in a presidential term dating back at least to Richard Nixon. ...





#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 08:26 PM | Reply

Lots of sourcing links in that article, unlike the cited article for this thread.

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 08:27 PM | Reply

"#27 | Posted by LampLighter"

The sources SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED (AGAIN) as we already debated these points (there is only about 20 of you smooth brained liberals on this site) when that article was freshly posted. You dipshits just need to develop a memory better than a goldfish.

#29 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:30 PM | Reply

"#28 | Posted by LampLighter"

And again - they 100% support my statements.

So, how about you take the time to admit that EVERYTHING I POSTED was correct?

#30 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:31 PM | Reply

#26 what a sad, sad little man.

You think I'm offering an unsupported statistic?

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-09 08:34 PM | Reply

www.clevelandfed.org

Here. I'll help you out even without your validation.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-09 08:36 PM | Reply

AGAIN. Facts are Facts - and I always bring them.

As I pointed out in #9.

LOL.

#33 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-09 08:38 PM | Reply

"You think I'm offering an unsupported statistic?
#31 | Posted by jpw"

No - I KNOW that you are too stupid to understand the statistic you are posting and how it is totally unresponsive to the statement I made. I already explained this within the last 2 weeks on this website. Can you spot your stupidity on your own or do you need my help?

#34 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:39 PM | Reply

President Trump Approval - Economy
www.realclearpolling.com

...
RCP Average 5/28 - 7/7 --
Approve: 42.1
Disapprove: 55.1
Spread: -13.0
...

... and from that same link ...

...
FOX News 6/13 - 6/16
Approve: 40
Disapprove: 58
Spread: -18


#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 08:40 PM | Reply

@#34 ... I KNOW that you are too stupid ...

So, ad hominem attacks?

Again?

That seems to be all your current trolling alias has.

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 08:42 PM | Reply

"#35 | Posted by LampLighter"

So now Fox News is a credible source for you?

#37 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:43 PM | Reply

"#36 | Posted by LampLighter"

Well, if a statement of fact is considered an ad hominem attack - I guess that is a you problem. I will wait for JPW to come back and see if he can understand why his stats is non-responsive to my claim. Maybe he is not too stupid - but, until proven otherwise, I will assume he will not be able to figure it out on his own.

#38 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 08:46 PM | Reply

Fox shows a lot of opinion shows (propaganda) and entertainment shows (propaganda) it presents as News.

You may be confused about where you're getting your (mis)information.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-09 08:51 PM | Reply

#34 I remember the thread where you showed the value of a Texas Tech education.

But please, show us again.

#40 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-09 08:54 PM | Reply

Lol
Epic ScottS fail.

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2025-07-09 08:55 PM | Reply

Epic ScottS fail.

Consistent and inevitable, but we get the clicks. :-)

#42 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-09 08:58 PM | Reply

@#38 ... Well, if a statement of fact is considered an ad hominem attack ...

From back in the days when I ran a bulletin board (back a couple three decades ago), an ad hominem attack was an attack against the person (hence, ad hominem, Latin, literally 'to the person') posting the comment, and not the comment that the person posted..

ad hominem
www.merriam-webster.com

...
1: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect

2: marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made
...



#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 08:58 PM | Reply

@#42 ... but we get the clicks. ...

Hey, if trying to educate an apparent troll beefs up the pages views of this site, I'm all for it, in that respect.

What that troll may not realize is that it is contributing to the longevity of this site that it seems to abhor.

:)

#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 09:01 PM | Reply

if trying to educate an apparent troll

Futile.

it is contributing to the longevity of this site that it seems to abhor.

I don't detect that much self reflection.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-09 09:06 PM | Reply

"#34 I remember the thread where you showed the value of a Texas Tech education.
But please, show us again.
#40 | Posted by jpw"

Seems my comment on your memory ability is once again proven to be 100% accurate. I never attended Texas Tech nor made a single comment on Texas Tech. You are free to link to something to prove me wrong - but, you can't and you won't because it does not exist.

So, you want to just admit you fucked up again or do you want me to keep spiking the football in your face?

And more to the point - you realize yet why the inflation number you posted is non-responsive to my claim? Maybe try ChatGPT.

#46 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 09:06 PM | Reply

"Lol
Epic ScottS fail.
#41 | Posted by YAV"

A smooth brain cheering on your fellow smooth brains - and just like your gaggle of retarded friends - you are also unable to link to a single statement that I made that was incorrect. But, feel free to try. I think you will find proving me wrong to be 1,000,000x harder than banging random married guys - which is your specialty.

#47 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 09:08 PM | Reply

"#43 | Posted by LampLighter "

I am just making a statement of fact. Again, if you deem a statement of FACT to be an attack - that is a YOU problem.

#48 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 09:10 PM | Reply

"What that troll may not realize is that it is contributing to the longevity of this site that it seems to abhor.
#44 | Posted by LampLighter"

Who said I abhor this site? It is a way for me to give back to the community by educating special needs kids - even if some of the 'kids' are in their 60's like Snoofy.

#49 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 09:12 PM | Reply

@#49 ... Who said I abhor this site? ...

No one stated that.

And that comment seems to point to the reading comprehension issue your current trolling may have.

#50 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 09:20 PM | Reply

@#48 ... I am just making a statement of fact. Again, if you deem a statement of FACT to be an attack ...

When the statement is directed at a specific person, yes, that is an ad hominem attack. Please reread #43.

Do try harder.

#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 09:22 PM | Reply

"#50 | Posted by LampLighter"

This was an intelligence test - YOU said that I abhor the site dipshit.

#52 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 09:23 PM | Reply

"When the statement is directed at a specific person
#51 | Posted by LampLighter"

A statement of truth directed at a specific person is an ad hominem attack? LOL. You are getting more desperate by the minute.

How about you just save whatever remaining self-respect that you have by stopping this nonsense discussion and just admit that everything I said was correct? Or better yet, switch to you equally ridiculous alt. account 'Billy Boy' and start posting from there.

#53 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 09:26 PM | Reply

@#32 ... YOU said that I abhor the site ...

No.

What I actually said (#44) was ...

... What that troll may not realize is that it is contributing to the longevity of this site that it seems to abhor. ...

At no point did I say that your current trolling alias abhors this site.

Do try harder.




#54 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 09:30 PM | Reply

@#53 ... A statement of truth directed at a specific person is an ad hominem attack? ...

Yup.

I notice in its recent comments your current trolling alias has reverted to what seems to be its usual modus operandi, i.e., lots of posts that attack with little substantiation.

Do try harder.

If it doesn't, I'll stop playing this fun little game with you.


#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 09:35 PM | Reply

"I notice in its recent comments your current trolling alias has reverted to what seems to be its usual modus operandi, i.e., lots of posts that attack with little substantiation.
#55 | Posted by LampLighter"

Of course I have - you dipshits have been unable to counter a single fact that I presented so what else is left for me to do but to spike the football, repeatedly, in your stupid little faces as you continue to post fact-free comments? If you want a data-driven answer, post a data-driven challenge to what I posted. If you want me to continue spiking the football in your stupid face, carry on as you have been.

#56 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 09:42 PM | Reply

@#56 ... Of course I have ...

Yup.

Apparently backing away from defending its ad hominem attacks.

Thank-you for that apparent admission.

I had been wondering how long it would take me to get your current trolling alias to admit that.

Have fun!

#57 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 09:56 PM | Reply

Why don't you just provide the "proof" of your 1.6% claim and stop acting like a little b^*%#.

#58 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-09 10:35 PM | Reply

"#58 | Posted by jpw"

Accept that you were wrong on the native and foreign employment numbers and then we can move on to that.

#59 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-09 11:41 PM | Reply

Bwahaha. Just shut up, you inconsequential stain on the backside of humanity.

#60 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-10 01:18 AM | Reply

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