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Wednesday, July 30, 2025

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) released a memo outlining new guidelines for employees that wish to convince their coworkers of the "correctness" of their personal religious beliefs. The memo was developed in conjunction with the White House Faith Office, which is a new office established by President Donald Trump in February. The memo directs all departments and agencies to not enact disciplinary actions against all religious demonstrations in federal offices, "including attempting to persuade others of the correctness of their own religious views, provided that such efforts are not harassing in nature," the memo reads. This includes the displaying of Bibles, religious artwork, and posters with religious messaging.

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Federal workers can also "encourage their coworkers to participate in religious expressions of faith, such as prayer, to the same extent that they would be permitted to encourage coworkers to participate in other personal activities," the memo added, "to the greatest extent possible unless such expression would impose an undue hardship on business operations."

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Yeah, boy:

"The Presidential Prayer Team is a 501c(3) organization. We are rated by two national accreditation groups and undergo an annual independent audit to ensure accountability, transparency, and integrity."

www.presidentialprayerteam.org

#1 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-07-30 03:41 PM | Reply

One supposes that had the Emperor Nero had a prayer team... they too would be Fake Christians.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-30 04:15 PM | Reply

What this will mean is any religious icons can be displayed.

The government isn't endorsing any particular one.

The way I see it, Trump is just saying it's not the government's place to suppress religious belief either.

Atheists have just grown accustomed to things working a certain way and now the situation has changed. The whole "tax payer funded offices" being a safe haven for atheists is no more.

I mean...you know there's a problem when atheists claim the government has a responsibility to enforce freedom "from" religion instead of freedom "of" religion.

Trump is kicking you know what.

#3 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 08:06 PM | Reply

"The way I see it, Trump is just saying it's not the government's place to suppress religious belief either."

Because he supports religious beliefs like black skin is the Mark of Cain, and women who have sex before marriage can be shunned for their morals.

Corrective rape is a religious belief. It wouldn't be right to suppress a religious belief.

Religion After Rape: Changes in Faith and Hindered Acknowledgement
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Information Processing Theory

Resick & Schnicke (1992) developed an information processing model to explain reactions to interpersonal trauma. According to their model, when confronted with a schema-discrepant experience, either the discrepant information is altered so that it fits within previously established schema (i.e., assimilation) or the schema is changed to accommodate the new information (i.e., accommodation; Resick & Schnicke, 1992; Hollon & Garber, 1988). In other words, one may alter their perception of the trauma (e.g., "Itwasn't really rape") so it can be assimilated into their pre-existing schema about the safety of the world, or they may change their view of the world (e.g., "The world isn't safe") to accommodate their experience. Schematic overaccommodation may also occur such that one's schema is altered to be maladaptive (e.g., "I can never trust anyone again"). Assimilation occurs more often than accommodation (Resick & Schnicke, 1992), which may explain the phenomena of unacknowledged rape.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 08:13 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Better watch out.

Your obssession with conspiracy theories might get you a room in the new Trump hotel for those who have lost touch with reality.

#5 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 08:21 PM | Reply

Your obssession with conspiracy theories might get you a room in the new Trump hotel for those who have lost touch with reality.
#5 | Posted by BillJohnson

^
It's nice to see you're threatening your perceived political opponents with becoming political prisoners under Trump.

Take a step back and think about what Jesus thinks of you right now.

Freak.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 08:25 PM | Reply

The whole "tax payer funded offices" being a safe haven for atheists is no more.
#3 | Posted by BillJohnson

What exactly is the harm from being atheist at work? How does that hurt the government to have such employees?

And what's your final solution for these dangerous and unwanted atheists, should they be sent to camps, or is firing them for their religious disbelief enough?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 08:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy,

"final solution"

Wow...that's not a good choice of words, when you've just posted sounding paranoid atheists are under attack.

#8 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 08:42 PM | Reply

You literally just said atheists lost their safe haven.

That means atheists can be attacked, and you're taking a victory lap.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 08:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fight me, -----.

You bring your ------ G-d help I'll take you both down.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 08:48 PM | Reply

a room in the new Trump hotel

Snoofy is safe, he's not a kid for your orange God to diddle.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-30 08:55 PM | Reply

Bill- Trump is an atheist.

Choke on it.

#12 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-30 08:57 PM | Reply

Alex,

"Trump is an atheist"

He says otherwise.

Maybe Trump is and maybe he isn't.

Not my concern there.

I like most of what I see regarding Trump's approach to freedom of religion and speech and will leave it at that.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 09:17 PM | Reply

Trump is an atheist BillJohnson. Deal with it.

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-30 09:20 PM | Reply

Laura,

"Deal with it"

What's there to deal with?

You'll have to explain to me what I'm supposed to be dealing with?

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 09:53 PM | Reply

Laura,

"Deal with it"

What's there to deal with?

You'll have to explain to me what I'm supposed to be dealing with?

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 09:54 PM | Reply

Undue hardship on business operations? We're running the government like a business all of a sudden? What kind? Pizza shop with a basement?

#17 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-07-30 10:07 PM | Reply

That's you've been swindled into believing that Trump is a religious man when all he is is con job and you've sold your soul in the process. That's what you need to deal with BillJohnson.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-30 10:10 PM | Reply

" What this will mean is any religious icons can be displayed"

Including icons for Jews, Muslims, and Satanists?

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-30 10:12 PM | Reply

There is a post office near me where the regular postal clerk is a born again christian. EVERY time I go in there she proselytizes at me. I really want to tell her to go ---- herself, but I refrain.

I KNOW she was breaking some postal rule with her --------. Now she can obnoxiously throw that ---- out even louder.

---- her and all you religious ---------.

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 10:39 PM | Reply

Hey bill, why should I be subjected to a born again whackadoodles ramblings every time I go in to get a book of stamps?

"Have a blessed day"
"Are you saved?"
"Have you heard the good news?"

We fought a war so people like me wouldn't be subjected to your asininity.

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 10:41 PM | Reply

Now you're allowed to clap back.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 10:41 PM | Reply

If a Christian tries to attack you with their faith, calmly tell them, you don't believe in the G-d the pedophile Muhammad.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 10:44 PM | Reply

I actually wish I had a federal job. I would post an engraved, ornate plaque that said

"Base your life on Psalm 137:9"

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 10:45 PM | Reply

Somehow this reminds me of going into a small country store in east Texas back in college days. The owner/clerk had a stack of KKK cards next to the register.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-30 10:46 PM | Reply

Trump isn't an athiest

He literally thinks he is a god

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 10:47 PM | Reply

This means that christians can now discuss father daughter ------ around the water cooler

Religion is a disease.

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 10:49 PM | Reply

"There is a post office near me where the regular postal clerk is a born again christian. EVERY time I go in there she proselytizes at me. I really want to tell her to go ---- herself, but I refrain."

You live in Mayberry?

Admit it ... ..you WANT to go in there because you're a masochist

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2025-07-30 10:49 PM | Reply

Will the federal government require a prospective husband to give the father of the bride 100 --------- for the hand of his daughter?

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 10:50 PM | Reply

Ezekiel 23:19-21

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose -------- were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.[a]

Post that ---- on your wall and HR will fire you for sexual harrasment

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 10:54 PM | Reply

Laura,

"That's you've been swindled into believing that Trump is a religious man"

I didn't vote for Trump because I believed Trump was religious. I believed he would not deliberately position himself as the enemy of Christ, the way democrats have been doing for many years now.

I voted for Trump because the Democratic Party is slipping into darkness.

#31 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 11:08 PM | Reply

you voted for a con artist pedophile.

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-30 11:13 PM | Reply

as the enemy of Christ

He tortures immigrants by sending them to a terrible prison in El Salvador.

How Christian is that?

#33 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-30 11:16 PM | Reply

I voted for Trump because the Democratic Party is slipping into darkness.
#31 | Posted by BillJohnson

Might as well go straight for the source. Why slip into darkness when one can fully embrace it?

#34 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-07-31 05:30 AM | Reply

I didn't vote for Trump because I believed Trump was religious. I believed he would not deliberately position himself as the enemy of Christ, the way democrats have been doing for many years now.
I voted for Trump because the Democratic Party is slipping into darkness.
#31 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-30 11:08 PM | Reply

WOW JUST WOW. Unfreakingbelieveale.

#35 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-31 06:06 AM | Reply

Interesting, isn't it, Laura, how believers in a Manichean model tend to place themselves among the Children of Light opposing the Children of Darkness? We can often thank organized religion, ignorance, and poor critical thinking skills for that.

#36 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-07-31 06:30 AM | Reply

Trump is kicking you know what.

#3 | Posted by BillJohnson

The bucket? Can't come soon enough.

#37 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-07-31 06:51 AM | Reply

Interesting, isn't it, Laura, how believers in a Manichean model tend to place themselves among the Children of Light opposing the Children of Darkness? We can often thank organized religion, ignorance, and poor critical thinking skills for that.

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-07-31 06:30 AM | Reply

I'm flummoxed over BillJohnson and his reasoning for supporting Trump's presidency. It's outrageous how stupid he is.

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-31 08:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I believed he would not deliberately position himself as the enemy of Christ, the way democrats have been doing for many years now.

WTF are you babbling about now? You can "believe" in one hand and take a crap in the other and see which fills up first.

Jesus was a liberal. If Jesus ran for public office as a democrat you idiots wouldn't even vote for him. Because "Democrats" are your enemy.

BTW- Democrats are mostly Christians. All anre believers in God in one way or another. And only one democrat is a declared Humanist (nonbeliever). None are enemies of your Christ. Indifferent maybe. But not enemies. You are the one placing yourselves into an adversarial position.

But apparently ... all we have to do is ... Just say NO!

So to you and your nonsense ... I say ... NO! (That means legally you have to STFU about your personal religious preferences.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-31 12:39 PM | Reply

The enemy of Christ, what is this dude talking about?

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 12:39 PM | Reply

he doesn't know either.

#41 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-31 12:59 PM | Reply

Donner,

"Democrats are mostly Christians. All are believers in God in one way or another."

Beliefs aren't judged by applying vague labels. They're judged by the outcomes of actions.

For years, liberals have actively advanced policies that contradict core Christian doctrine and values on life, family, speech, religious freedom, and moral order.

They knew exactly what they were doing and have been using the courts with precision to accomplish their goals.

That positions them as the enemy of Christ.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-31 08:16 PM | Reply

BullJohnson voted for a known adulterer, a man who was found guilty of sexual assault, and is commonly known as a pedophile.

But he feels like it's his place to tell others how to be a good person and Christian.

Talking about ------- retarded.

Hey Bill. ---- you.

Trump is spreading hate across America.

You enabled him.

You're complicit.

Hell is awaiting you.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-31 08:22 PM | Reply

Trump is kicking ...
#3 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

Underaged girls over so he can rape them.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-31 08:24 PM | Reply

For years, liberals have actively advanced policies that contradict core Christian doctrine and values on life, family, speech, religious freedom, and moral order.
#42 | Posted by BillJohnson

Which core doctrines, be specific.

And what advice does Christ give his followers regarding these "enemies of Christ."

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 08:34 PM | Reply

The bible from cover to cover, OT to New is about how we treat each other, and especially about how we treat strangers and immigrants.

www.google.com

www.google.com

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 08:45 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

If I answer you, you'll just twist my words and build strawmen.

You rarely respond to what I actually write. Just your strawmen.

#47 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-31 08:52 PM | Reply

After Trump adds the ballroom and sex dungeons, he will definitely need a cathedral to balance out the sinning.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-31 08:52 PM | Reply

"I'm never speaking to any of you again, ever!" - BJ

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 08:54 PM | Reply

LMFAO Corky. Too funny

#50 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-31 08:56 PM | Reply

Corky,

Have I not said anything you do yet since taking a little breather?

Now I have.

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-31 09:02 PM | Reply

I can imagine an air traffic controller talking in tounges. Or an ICE agent with a box of snakes in case he needs a momentary faith refresher.

#52 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2025-07-31 09:32 PM | Reply

You rarely respond to what I actually write. Just your strawmen.
#47 | Posted by BillJohnson

I simply asked you for specifics.

If you had them, you'd be trumpeting them like Gabriel.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 09:40 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

See? There you go.

You respond not to what I said, but to something I didn't even say, acting as if your logic has merit.

You say I have no specifics.

Your "proof" is, if I did I'd be "trumpeting them like Gabriel."

#54 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-31 10:38 PM | Reply

@#42 ... Beliefs aren't judged by applying vague labels. They're judged by the outcomes of actions. ...

I disagree.

Beliefs are judged by the beliefs.

If I believe that I should rob banks, and profess that belief to other followers, but I do not actually rob banks...

Is my belief any less criminal?




#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-31 10:46 PM | Reply

Lamp,

If you robbed a bank, the outcome would be getting arrested thus proving it is wrong to do.

Claiming you believed it was legal is immaterial.

What you believe about robbing banks has no merit.

#56 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-31 11:02 PM | Reply

@#56 ... What you believe about robbing banks has no merit. ...

So, you seem to be saying that, let's say, Satanic beliefs are OK?

#57 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-01 12:16 AM | Reply

Blind Faith - Presence Of The Lord (1969)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
[Verse 1]
I have finally found a way to live
Just like I never could before
I know that I don't have much to give
But I can open any door

[Pre-Chorus]
Everybody knows the secret
Everybody knows the score
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[Chorus 1]
I have finally found a way to live
In the colour of the Lord
...


#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-01 12:20 AM | Reply

Lamp,

"Satanic beliefs are OK?"

Here in this life, you're got a right to believe whatever you want. It's the actions you take, as a result of those beliefs, that you're judged by.

In the afterlife, as a Christian, I think your beliefs in this life are what you're judged by.

Have you got a point with this line of thinking?

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 06:55 AM | Reply

Alex,

"He tortures immigrants by sending them to a terrible prison in El Salvador. How Christian is that?"

Are you saying the government should be run by Biblical standards?

Is that what you want, or do you cherry pick verses that help your argument?

If you're going to measure policy by biblical scripture, you'd need to apply all of it not and not just the parts that support your politics.

#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 07:03 AM | Reply

BillJohnson. I'd like to reiterate Corky's comment:

The Bible from cover to cover, OT to New is about how we treat each other, and especially about how we treat strangers and immigrants.

#46 | Posted by Corky

Your response?

#61 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-08-01 07:29 AM | Reply

Dbt2,

"The Bible from cover to cover, OT to New is about how we treat each other, and especially about how we treat strangers and immigrants."

Your reduction of 66 books about God and His revelation to mankind is oversimplified.

Yes, it says a lot about how we treat others, including strangers. It also says a lot about sin, judgment, obedience, wrath, sacrifice, repentance, and eternal destiny.

How we treat others matters deeply. Compassion, justice, and mercy are all there. But reducing the entire Bible to an immigration policy is like reducing a full course meal to a jar of babyfood. Bland and easy to digest.

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 08:33 AM | Reply

Alex,

The US has real, dangerous problems tied to lax immigration policies. We've empowered criminals and crippled law enforcement.

Liberal misguided priorities haven't helped.

When we ask, "How Christian is that?" maybe we should ask how Christian is it to enable lawlessness?

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 08:48 AM | Reply

,
The US has real, dangerous problems tied to lax immigration policies. We've empowered criminals and crippled law enforcement.
Liberal misguided priorities haven't helped.
When we ask, "How Christian is that?" maybe we should ask how Christian is it to enable lawlessness?

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 08:48 AM | Reply

No it doesn't. The vast majority of the Undocumented immigrants are law abiding people. Plus they make the country thrive. If you didn't have them we wouldn't eat. That's for damn sure.

#64 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-01 09:00 AM | Reply

Laura,

"The vast majority of the Undocumented immigrants are law abiding people."

The moment someone enters or stays in the country illegally, they've broken the law.

That's not a moral judgment. It's a legal fact. Calling them "law-abiding" after that is like calling a shoplifter honest because they don't jaywalk.

#65 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 09:44 AM | Reply

#65 | Posted by BillJohnson

Is Trump law-abiding, BILL?

#66 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-01 10:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is setting the country up for a backlash against Christians and Christianity.

#67 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-01 10:14 AM | Reply

Generally, illegal immigration is considered a civil offense in the U.S., specifically a civil violation of immigration law, not a criminal one. However, there are situations where illegal entry or reentry can lead to criminal charges, such as when someone enters the country illegally or re-enters after being deported.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Civil Offense:
Being in the U.S. without proper authorization (e.g., without a valid visa or overstaying a visa) is typically a civil violation handled by the Department of Homeland Security.
Criminal Offense:
However, certain actions related to illegal immigration can be considered criminal offenses under federal law. For example, illegal entry into the U.S. is a misdemeanor under 8 U.S.C. 1325, and illegal reentry after deportation is a felony under 8 U.S.C. 1326.
Criminal Prosecution:
Individuals charged with these immigration-related crimes can be subject to fines, imprisonment, or both.
Consequences of Civil Violations:
Even if not a criminal offense, civil violations of immigration law can still lead to deportation (removal from the U.S.) and other penalties.

#68 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-01 10:58 AM | Reply

The moment someone enters or stays in the country illegally, they've broken the law.

The moment you go over the speed limit you have broken the law.

Being undocumented is the same level of criminal activity as driving 10 miles over the speed limit.

Entering the country without authorization is a misdemeanor for the first offense, the act of being undocumented, meaning simply residing in the U.S. without legal permission, is not a federal crime. It's a civil violation handled by immigration courts, not a criminal offense.

However, illegal reentry after deportation IS a felony.

But the government committing felonies (kidnappings without due process ) to prevent misdemeanors or even more felonies does not make much sense. But as we all have know and have witnessed over and over maga maroons are not known for making sense.

#69 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-01 11:04 AM | Reply

The minute they ask for asylum they are no longer breaking the law and in fact the fact that they entered without authorization is no longer a crime

Simple facts magat scum

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-08-01 11:25 AM | Reply

that is like calling a shoplifter honest because they don't jaywalk.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Jay walking is no longer a crime in California. Which shows you that the law is not always just or correct and sometimes needs to be changed.

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-01 11:25 AM | Reply

"He tortures immigrants by sending them to a terrible prison in El Salvador. How Christian is that?"
Are you saying the government should be run by Biblical standards?
#60 | Posted by BillJohnson

You're saying that.
Your sole reason for voting Republicans is Democrats are "enemies of Christ."
That's your Biblical standard.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 11:45 AM | Reply

Would enemies of Christ send innocent people to prison, or would friends of Christ do that?

You ought to be able to explain it to us. It's your belief system after all.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 11:46 AM | Reply

Bill will never answer. He KNOWS trump is a criminal.

#74 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-01 11:47 AM | Reply

"The moment someone enters or stays in the country illegally, they've broken the law."

The moment someone exceeds the speed limit they've broken the law too.

It doesn't make them a criminals. A criminal is someone who leads a life of crime.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 11:50 AM | Reply

Zed,

"Trump is setting the country up for a backlash against Christians and Christianity."

Let's be real. The backlash didn't start with Trump. The enemies of Christ have been on the offense for years.

Now they're just using Trump as their excuse, which only proves the point I've been making. Liberal ideology has positioned itself squarely against traditional conservative Christian belief, and they're getting bolder about it.

From my perspective based on my age, experience, and observations, this hostility has been building for a long time. The difference now? It's become socially acceptable to openly condemn Christianity that focuses on the Gospel.

Trump didn't cause that.

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 12:09 PM | Reply

"The enemies of Christ have been on the offense for years."

Give us some examples.

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 12:26 PM | Reply

"Liberal ideology has positioned itself squarely against traditional conservative Christian belief"

Which liberal ideologies?
Which traditional conservative Christian beliefs?

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 12:27 PM | Reply

"The difference now? It's become socially acceptable to openly condemn Christianity that focuses on the Gospel."

When was that ever not socially acceptable? Have you not read The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine?

Are you not familiar with the existence of The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, when it was written, who Thomas Paine was, and how thoroughly he ridiculed institutionalized Christianity his pamphlet became an American best seller?

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 12:32 PM | Reply

BullJohnson is a fake Christian who worships an orange idol.

You can't support an adulterous, pedophile who does nothing but lie and spread hate, and still pretend you follow the teaching of Christ.

You can't hate you're fellow man, condemn humans for being born different than you are, and pretend you follow the teachings of Christ.

I mean. Republicans do.

Because they're delusional.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 12:34 PM | Reply

It's become socially acceptable to openly condemn Christianity

You're such a victim of your own stupidity.

You've never been condemned for being a Christian and you don't know anyone who has been.

You're a liar.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 12:37 PM | Reply

It doesn't make them a criminals. A criminal is someone who leads a life of crime.

#75 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

And who is convicted of crimes. Obviously.

Take Donald J Trump for example.

A convicted felon. Who has committed crimes for decades.

#82 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-01 12:42 PM | Reply

Trump is an agent of chaos

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 12:47 PM | Reply

I dont condemn bill for being christian.

hes just a ------ one (at least here)

#84 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-01 12:48 PM | Reply

Most of our immigrants are from countries that we and our Corporations have decimated and kept poor for at least the last century. Now they are also beset by the environmental and economic effects of climate change, most of which we have helped to produce in their countries.

These are families fleeing the governments that we have in many cases set up and supported.

The idea that Christians should turn these people away, or be complicit in their cruel circumstances is anathema to all biblical teachings.

Chicago School, anyone?

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 12:51 PM | Reply

What makes BullJohnson a Christian?

Compulsory attendance at church on Sundays?

Saying you are one?

Spreading lies and hatred for human beings and doing everything you possibly can to make their lives miserable?

Wearing a cross?

Seriously.

What has BullJohnson ever posted that made you believe him to be a Christian?

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 12:51 PM | Reply

Clown,

You either haven't been paying attention, or you're pretending not to.

The idea that liberals haven't been on the offense against traditional Christianity is laughable to anyone who's actually watched the cultural shift over the past two decades.

And let's not pretend liberal churches are some kind of enlightment. Many of them have gutted the Gospel entirely removing any talk of sin, redemption, or salvation.

What's left isn't Christianity. It's feel good moral therapy wrapped in progressive slogans.

#87 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 01:02 PM | Reply

"traditional Christianity"

Name. The. Values.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 01:03 PM | Reply

"laughable to anyone who's actually watched the cultural shift over the past two decades."

You referring referring to treating homosexual people no different than heterosexual people?

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 01:05 PM | Reply

MAGA rwing white nationalist authoritarian racists make terrible, "Christians".

Thomas Jefferson nixed the idea of such things as a, "Faith Office" in the WH... and for damn good reasons.

But hey, the plan to keep America ignorant has gone quite well, and that's what the Oligarchs want:

... by age 12 children American children of
affluent kids are four grade levels
above everybody else

by University the age rich kids are 77 times more likely
to go to university or to ivy league
university than kids from poor schools

in adulthood 54% of the people at Elite
workplaces went to the same 34 Elite
colleges

so we ended up creating a cast
system people with high school degrees
die nine years sooner than people with
college degrees

people with high school
degrees are five times more likely to
have kids out of wedlock people with
high school degrees are 2.4 times more
likely to say they have no friends

so we created a cast system even though we
pretend to be egalitarian

www.youtube.com

#90 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 01:17 PM | Reply

Bill.

You post nothing but hate.

If that's what you think Christianity is, so be it.

Conservatives love wrath.

#91 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 01:30 PM | Reply

Smoofy,

I don't answer rhetorical questions pretending to be genuine.

In your mind you already know all the answers.

Why bother?

#92 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 01:40 PM | Reply

conservative Christian belief,

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson

You're not a Red Letter Christian, BILL. If I have to explain that to you then you are no Christian at all.

I think that I have told you that in all my years of attending church, conservative churches only in my part of Texas, I have never heard a sermon on the Beatitudes? The Beatitudes are considered by many, apparently not in Texas, to be the climax and summation of Christ's ministry on earth.

Did I ever tell you about the young man, well into his twenties; a man who attended a "conservative church", who had never (never) heard of the Sermon on the Mount?

That young man ceased to speak to me after I had explained it to him. He never told me why but I'm pretty sure that his "Christian" church objected.

#93 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-01 02:10 PM | Reply

conservative Christian belief

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson

You've suffered no true backlash for being a Christian, BILL. At most you've gotten your pride brusied from time to time.

The true backlash will happen AFTER cult "conservative" Christianity feels empowered enough to go after other religions, including other Christians.

If I were a Hindu I would be worried.

Muslims already know what it's like to be worried.

But the Mormons are on that list, as are Cathholics, and the Jews.

Once you start the full oppression people will react to you.

You want a nice little religious war to go along with your nice little civil war?

If not, then deal with your hurt "Christian" fee-fees like a man and really, I mean really, read your Bible.

#94 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-01 02:16 PM | Reply

There is no hate like Christian love.

#95 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-08-01 02:21 PM | Reply

" conservative Christian belief"

Manure.

You can't name two Commandments Trump embodies.

Nor can you name two aspects of the Anti-Christ he doesn't.

#96 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-01 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

BullJohnson isn't a Christian.

He just plays one on the DR.

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 03:25 PM | Reply

" The difference now? It's become socially acceptable to openly condemn Christianity that focuses on the Gospel."

Pointing out the ways you're NOT following Christ's teachings is not condemning the Gospel. Just the opposite.

And pointing out you can't name two Commandments Trump follows doesn't condemn the Gospel either.

#98 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-01 03:35 PM | Reply

I don't answer rhetorical questions pretending to be genuine.
#92 | Posted by BillJohnson

I'm asking you to name the traditional Christian values you feel are under attack.

It's not a rhetorical question.

You're just not a strong enough person to answer.

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 04:02 PM | Reply

Zed,

"You're not a Red Letter Christian, BILL. If I have to explain that to you then you are no Christian at all."

Jesus said,

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword."
Matthew 10:34

#100 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 05:19 PM | Reply

Jesus said,
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword."
Matthew 10:34
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 05:19 PM | Reply

The sword in question here is G-d's word. It's not a physical thing. Just sayin

#101 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-01 05:41 PM | Reply

Laura for the B(J)-slap!

That's exactly right; the Word is the sword.

#102 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 05:51 PM | Reply

I did not come to bring peace but a sword."
Matthew 10:34

#100 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Because Jesus was all about that armed combat!! Right?

Yet when Peter pulled his sword during Jesus's arrest, Jesus rebukes him and even heals the injured person.

Wonder what the fake plastic Christian makes of that!

#103 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-01 06:49 PM | Reply

Laura,

Zed seemed to show a higher regard for red letter words. Jesus said he will set fathers against sons and mothers against daughters. He will be responsible for causing enemies within families.

All this love and harmony peopke like to attribute to Christianity mostly exists on Hallmark cards and car window stickers.

Jesus said,

Matthew 10:34"36 (ESV)

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.

And a person's enemies will be those of his own household."

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 09:06 PM | Reply

For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.

It does not mean they are going to use swords again each other.

It clearly means that his teachings, when embraced by some and rejected by others in the same family, can and will lead to conflict and division.

Makes one wonder how many other verses of the Bible you have also completely misunderstood.

#105 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-01 09:31 PM | Reply

New ideas can be dangerous.

Look how freaked out maga maroons are with the words "Woke" and "Progress".

And if you live a lifestyle not approved by Fake Plastic Christians then they will be all up in your business. Because of the children , of course. (Until they get caught fondling those children.)

#106 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-01 09:38 PM | Reply

Yeah, no... BJ still didn't grok the Word as a sword that divides people meaning.

"Not literal violence:

The "sword" is a metaphor, not a call to physical violence. It represents the power of the Gospel to cut through pretense and expose people's true beliefs and allegiances."

www.google.com

Much of what he said is misunderstood... in many cases because he was quoting the OT.

As in, "Abba, Abba, why have you forsaken me?"

"Jesus cried out in a loud voice, 'Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani? ' which is translated, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?' " (Mark 15:34; Matthew 27:46) is a direct quotation from Psalm 22:1."

www.franciscanmedia.org

#107 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 09:45 PM | Reply

Donner,

"It does not mean they are going to use swords again each other"

People may not fight physically or they may depending on their culture.

Jesus recognized back at that time some people would take offense to His message of repenting for your sins.

People take great pride in seeing themselves in a positive light.

It would appear He predicted accurately.

People don't take kindly to someone telling them they're a sinner.

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 10:28 PM | Reply

People don't take kindly to someone telling them they're a sinner.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-01 10:28 PM | Reply

I don't mind being called a sinner after all good girls go to heaven. Bad girls go EVERYWHERE.

#109 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-01 10:31 PM | Reply

#109 hahaha!

Romans 3:23
New International Version
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Everyone sins; misses the mark of perfection. JC said that even if you think of doing a wrong thing you have sinned... the point being that everyone does, some more than others.

Being sinless isn't part of current ability.

Paul asked his people whether if since Grace abounded, should we not sin all the more? No, he said, that would be like a dog returning to it's vomit.

We do the best we can and ask forgiveness for the rest.

#110 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 10:42 PM | Reply

BullJohnson voted for Trump three times and would gladly vote for him another three times.

He has zero moral high ground.

Conservative Christians are an affront to the words of Jesus.

#111 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 11:11 PM | Reply

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