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Trump Ends Free Market Capitalism That Enriched America
Irwin Stelzer: The Art of The Deal has come to government. President Trump wants a piece of the action on transactions needing government approval or funding.
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Hitler got one phennig everytime someone used a postage stamp.
He became a Millionaire,on this alone.
Trump's gonna find a way to get him some of That.
The modern iteration of this will be on Corporations.
Pay to close deals, Pay to get environmental approval for projects, Pay for "special incentives", AKA Corruption.
#1 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-01 03:34 PM | Reply
DEAD PEDO DEAD PUTIN DEAD BIBI WORLD CHEERS
#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-01 03:57 PM | Reply
DEAD PEDO DEAD PUTIN DEAD BIBI >DEAD FELON MUSK WORLD CHEERS
#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-02 12:58 AM | Reply
Trump or our foreign and economic policies?
#4 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-09-02 05:55 AM | Reply
Remember when Bushturd 2 had to "abandon free market principles"...
This is what an MBA from a prestigious university will buy you.
#5 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-03 04:25 PM | Reply
Trump is America.
And he's enriching himself just fine.
#6 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-03 06:20 PM | Reply
I have absolutely no problem with the government getting a portion of any company that relies heavily on government funding.
Free Market Capitalism didn't enrich America. It enriched a tiny portion of America. And it screwed everyone not born to a wealthy family.
#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-03 06:48 PM | Reply
Free market Capitalism went away as soon as Obama signed the ACA. Just because the issue is manifesting from a conservative doesn't make it any less true.
"DEAD PEDO DEAD PUTIN DEAD BIBI WORLD CHEERS"
The same sentiment said about a Dem POTUS and liberals go ballistic saying how wrong it is, blah blah blah. That's not even gaslighting. That actually happens in reality. Very often. But let's just ignore all of it that doesn't meet our narrative, amirite?
#8 | Posted by humtake at 2025-09-04 12:40 PM | Reply
"Free Market Capitalism didn't enrich America. It enriched a tiny portion of America. And it screwed everyone not born to a wealthy family."
It enriched the vast, overwhelming majority of Americans, not to mention the rest of the world.
That's why people are fighting to get into capitalist countries. Apparently, they're more interested in being better off themselves than they are someone else being better off than they are.
#9 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-04 02:29 PM | Reply
Then explain why 60% of Americans cannot afford daily living expenses.
www.cbsnews.com
Your myth falls into the same basket with tinkle down economics raining success onto everyone.
When taxes are cut for the top, the money doesn't rain down, their bucket just gets bigger.
#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-09-05 07:04 AM | Reply
"Your myth falls into the same basket with tinkle down economics raining success onto everyone."
In 1985, the percentage of people on earth experiencing poverty was 43%. Today it is 9%.
US household income, after being adjusted for inflation, has increased by 74%.
It's easy to not be able to afford "daily expenses" when you over-extend yourself. You could make half a million a year and find yourself in that position.
I recently had a conversation with a co-worker who moved from the Springs to here in Germany. He was telling me that back in CO, when he was making $90k a year, he had a VA mortgage loan approved for $675k.
It would be very easy to find yourself unable to cover "daily expenses" if you had a mortgage approaching $4k per month, and your monthly income was $7.5k before taxes.
#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-05 01:29 PM | Reply
Life is getting better, no matter what you've heard and read
www.usatoday.com
#12 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-05 01:32 PM | Reply
From #12:
"That's extraordinary progress over the past 40 years ' largely thanks to capitalism and global trade."
So why is Trump against Capitalism and Global Trade?
#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:34 PM | Reply
"when he was making $90k a year, he had a VA mortgage loan approved for $675k."
No wealth, no assets, no other income? I don't believe you.
#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:36 PM | Reply
"US household income, after being adjusted for inflation, has increased by 74%."
Now do it by quintiles.
#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:37 PM | Reply
Now do just America. Because many poor countries have done much better recently which dramatically skews the numbers.
Let me help you.
33.1 million Americans currently live in poverty.
That's a "poverty rate" of 14.0%. This reflected a slight decline from the 1983 peak of 15.2% following the 1980s recession.
So how much better are we Americans REALLY doing ?
Not much.
#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 01:39 PM | Reply
"In 1985, the percentage of people on earth experiencing poverty was 43%. Today it is 9%."
So, was Capitalism also the cause of 43% of people on earth living in poverty in 1985?
#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:42 PM | Reply
So, was Capitalism also the cause of 43% of people on earth living in poverty in 1985? #17 | POSTED BY SNOOFY
No, this was governmental experiments in socialism/communism.
#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-05 01:50 PM | Reply
Now do just America. Because many poor countries have done much better recently which dramatically skews the numbers. So how much better are we Americans REALLY doing ? Not much. #16 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY
Its interesting, you'll tear down America economic system, then raise up California #4, which has the most income inequality.
#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-05 01:53 PM | Reply
No wealth, no assets, no other income?
My understanding is a VA loan has a portion government backed, and if currently serving are much easier to get approved.
#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-05 01:56 PM | Reply
IAMRUNT spends entire days simping for the child rapist who killed 1.2 million Americans.
#21 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-05 01:57 PM | Reply
"So why is Trump against Capitalism and Global Trade?"
Because economically, Trump is perhaps the most left-wing president in this nation's history. The closest analog I can present is Huey Long, if you know who he was.
#22 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-05 02:23 PM | Reply
"Now do it by quintiles."
Again???
OK.
www.bing.com
#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-05 02:32 PM | Reply
"No, this was governmental experiments in socialism/communism."
I don't think it was that directly, it was the lack of a global integrated economy that was able to take advantages of the efficiencies created by comparative advantages. The collapse of the socialist bloc was simply the last political hurdle to this happening. Everything else was just a function of quick access to information to facilitate decision making. Quick being a relative term. Hours in the 1990s, vs. days or weeks in the era preceding the Soviet empire and its proxies.
#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-05 02:36 PM | Reply
"Its interesting, you'll tear down America economic system, then raise up California #4, which has the most income inequality."
And there is absolutely nothing that CA can do to its wealthiest residents that will increase the economic value of its poorest.
#25 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-05 02:38 PM | Reply
"California, which has the most income inequality."
The greatest opportunity ALWAYS accompanies the greatest income inequality.
That's the equation.
#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-05 02:43 PM | Reply
"And there is absolutely nothing that CA can do to its wealthiest residents that will increase the economic value of its poorest."
Really?
Tell us how California can increase the economic value of its poorest residents, then.
#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 02:53 PM | Reply
Trump is perhaps the most left-wing president in this nation's history.
His actions track closer to fascism than communism.
#28 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 02:54 PM | Reply
"Because economically, Trump is perhaps the most left-wing president in this nation's history."
So why are Republicans supporting left wing economics? Do you support Trump's economy too?
#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 02:54 PM | Reply
And there is absolutely nothing that CA can do to its wealthiest residents that will increase the economic value of its poorest. #25 | Posted by madbomber
So then, Government, writ large, played no role in this either?
#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 02:59 PM | Reply
Then what's this?
How Has Poverty in California Changed over Time? www.ppic.org
PPIC has been measuring poverty in California since we first opened our doors in 1994. We knew that to make effective and efficient policy, decisionmakers needed a reliable baseline of economic well-being across the state. With experience, we realized that our initial measures of poverty"which couldn't account for state specifics"could be improved. Over a decade ago"and following the lead of the US Census"we substantially revised how we measure poverty to more accurately capture basic needs in our high-cost state.
The result was the California Poverty Measure (CPM), a collaboration between PPIC and the Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality. Unlike the official poverty metric, the CPM factors in benefits from large-scale cash, food, and housing safety net programs, low-income tax credits, and county-level differences in the state's high cost of living. Two key takeaways from that effort? First, poverty in California is much higher than official poverty statistics would lead us to believe. In 2011, the CPM shows poverty to have been 21.7%, while the state's official poverty rate was 5 percentage points lower. Second, the state has seen substantial improvements over the long term. ... During the pandemic years something unusual happened. Poverty typically rises when the economy turns down, but the COVID-19 recession was an exception: in spite of severe economic disruptions, poverty declined dramatically because of major government interventions, particularly for children. While the official poverty rate"which does not count tax credits and food assistance"rose, CPM poverty declined from 16.4% in 2019 to 11.7% in fall 2021. We estimate that regular and expanded safety net benefits cut poverty nearly in half (88%) in fall 2021 and by more than 60% in early 2023.
#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 03:02 PM | Reply
"The greatest opportunity ALWAYS accompanies the greatest income inequality."
That appears to be a defense for what's happening in an individual state while condemning it for the entire country
If I misunderstood you then, please tell me
#32 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-05 03:06 PM | Reply
-Now do just America. Because many poor countries have done much better recently which dramatically skews the numbers
And that's not a good thing?
#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-05 03:09 PM | Reply
#25 | Posted by madbomber
Absolutely nothing. Except tax them and invest the money in education and youth crime prevention or a thousand other things that raise up the poor.
#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-05 03:40 PM | Reply
That appears to be a defense for what's happening in an individual state while condemning it for the entire country If I misunderstood you then, please tell me #32 | Posted by eberly
It's not even a political statement.
It's just how math works.
If the highest paid people are in California, it follows that California will exhibit the highest income inequality. Since the lowest paid people are found in every state and earn $0.
#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 03:44 PM | Reply
-Now do just America. Because many poor countries have done much better recently which dramatically skews the numbers And that's not a good thing? #33 | Posted by eberly
Is it a good thing for America if they're doing better because American jobs moved there?
#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 03:45 PM | Reply
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