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Rather than condemning violence and calling for unity, the president of the United States accused his political opposition of being accessories to murder.

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Trump is exploiting Charlie Kirk's murder to delegitimize political opposition www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ...

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-- Jonathan Chait (@jonathanbchait.bsky.social) Sep 11, 2025 at 11:02 AM

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"The most important move Trump made in his remarks was to define political violence as an exclusively left-wing tactic," writes Jonathan Chait.

He listed a series of events carefully selected to implicate his enemies and exonerate his allies. Trump's list goes back to the 2017 shooting of Steve Scalise, but omits the shootings of two Democratic legislators at their homes earlier this summer. It does not mention the 2020 attempted kidnapping of Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, or the brutal attack on former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband in 2022 (which Trump has used as a punch line to mock the victim).

As ever, not just a liar but a lying liar.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-12 06:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Why has Gabby Giffords been forgotten in all of this?

www.yahoo.com

#2 | Posted by shoeless at 2025-09-12 07:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump's such a shameless piece of $#!+

#3 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-09-12 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

GUESS WHAT PEDO, IT WAS A WHITE REPUBLICAN MALE.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-12 12:22 PM | Reply

Hmmm, Trump blames those who call anyone on the right facists. The assassin wrote "catch this facist" on the gun casing. Just a coincidence?

And I'm in my truck at 10 this morning and put on the progressive channel on sirius to hear what the say about the killer being caught and they are ranting about how bad the FBI has become under Patel because they haven't caught the killer yet. It was announced at 8 that he was in custody. These people are utter morons.
And one more, the same idiots were saying the train killing in N Carolina wasn't racially motivated AFTER the tape was released the day before of the killer saying "I got the white girl."

#5 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-09-12 12:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

GUESS WHAT PEDO, IT WAS A WHITE REPUBLICAN MALE.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-12 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey stupid, let me hear where you got that from. And I'm assuming you are talking about the guy that killed the white republican male who wrote on the shell casing "catch this facist".

#6 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-09-12 12:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

lmao... Kash didn't catch anyone... his cop father turned him in.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-12 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

yeah. the fbi used the tried and true "wait for his dad to turn him in" technique.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-12 12:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

law enforcement relies on tips all the time.

it's not a new thing fellas....

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-12 12:34 PM | Reply

#9

That's not what FishP was claiming.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-12 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

LOL.....please point out where FishP contradicts the fact that law enforcement relies on tips.

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-12 12:42 PM | Reply

That's not what FishP was claiming.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-12 12:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

How so dummy #2? I said he was in custody. Do you think if he thought he wouldn't get caught he would have confessed? Did you even know he was in custody before I mentioned it?

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-09-12 12:43 PM | Reply

#12

Go read the main thread about the capture.

Sitz can update you on the sarcastic Fascist shooter game related memes you are misinterpreting.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-12 12:48 PM | Reply

For decades, the politicians on both sides have set this up. Because what ever political idea is being pushed, whoever was against it was something less than a human and called such. It has degraded to the point now if you are not for whatever it is, you are no longer the opposition, you are the enemy. It's bad enough that the unpopular things that have been done in congress, have resulted in the republican party telling their congress critters not to hold town meetings because the animosity from their actions are coming home to roost with the populace. Sooner or later they must face the voters for a re-election.

The word "compromise" has totally been forgotten. In that viewpoint, nothing gets done. It's been 25 years since last a budget has been passed, as just such an example. Now, people angry at the lack of progress, are taking matters into their own hands to try and force it done. For the moment, it's just the nutcases doing this. How long before it seeps down the regular populace? Already the few congress critters that have held town halls have gotten their ears full from highly dissatisfied voters they represent; doesn't matter the party holding it.

Trump has been the final straw to start really bringing these events to a head. Displaying the "you are the enemy" for his opposition, for all to see. Even before the shooter was caught, with no information, he was right in there claiming the Dems were the cause and who had to be dealt with. Stacking the voter rolls through gerrymandering won't make this go away. While they may or may not stay in power, the anger under the surface by the voters who the congress critters are supposed to represent, will continue to simmer until things start being taken care of again. It's not going to get better until congress finally figures out it's about the people, not the party.

#14 | Posted by BBQ at 2025-09-12 01:09 PM | Reply

I'm fibe with expectations from others that I express alarm over violence against politicians without criticising the views expressed by the victims of politically motivated assaatins but that is a temporary choice, on my part, which will change back to more normal comments, for me, about those who express philosophies which I detest and I will return to my normal obnoxious self.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2025-09-12 01:10 PM | Reply

And I'm assuming you are talking about the guy that killed the white republican male who wrote on the shell casing "catch this facist".

#6 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Go to the thread on the topic you stupid pile of s^*%, instead of inserting your own terarded interpretations.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-12 02:45 PM | Reply

And I'm assuming you are talking about the guy that killed the white republican male who wrote on the shell casing "catch this facist".
#6 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Are you telling us that republicans do not oppose fascism?

#17 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-12 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Re: #4...best post I've read on this site in a very long time.

#18 | Posted by dutch46 at 2025-09-12 06:33 PM | Reply

Re:# 14...my bad.

#19 | Posted by dutch46 at 2025-09-12 06:34 PM | Reply

You left out that he's also an emotional narcissistic -------.

#20 | Posted by path at 2025-09-12 08:14 PM | Reply

trump is garbage.

www.huffpost.com

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-12 08:28 PM | Reply

Hey --------, look up Groyper you pile of dog ---- mother ------.

#22 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-12 11:27 PM | Reply

MAGATS are too stupid to live

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-12 11:28 PM | Reply

Oops, time to change the lies:

MAGA Makes Dramatic Shift After Identity of Killer Surfaces

When the facts didn't match their narrative, Trump and his allies scrambled to rewrite the story.

Congresswoman Nancy Mace, who just yesterday was on TV ranting about a supposed "Democrat leftist tranny plot," suddenly struck a different tone. Now she tells us that we need to pray for the killer. She says Kirk would have wanted us to extend forgiveness. Really? That's a remarkable change of heart, considering that before the facts came out, Mace was smearing entire communities with grotesque slurs.

Fox News also scrambled. When it became undeniable that Robinson wasn't the boogeyman they wished for, they reached for the next scapegoat: college. Yes, the same Fox News whose hosts rant nightly about "Marxist professors" tried to pin Robinson's violence on one semester at Utah State. Never mind that he spent the last few years in an electrical apprenticeship program at Dixie Technical College, not exactly a hub of left-wing radicalization. They needed a villain, and higher education was the easiest straw man.


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#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-12 11:47 PM | Reply

When asked, "how do we fix this country? how do we come back together?"

Trump responded, "i couldn't care less."

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-13 12:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How Republicans have reacted to comments about Kirk is the height of hypocrisy.

Remember their outcry at comments made by MAGAts when the MN congressman and his wife were murdered in their home?

Me neither.

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-09-13 09:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What a disgusting POS. I shake my head in amazement at the DAILY pathologically sociopath and narcissistic things he says and does, but by now I have to admit his voters must also be sociopaths and narcissists...because they continue to cheer him on.

#27 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-09-13 09:38 AM | Reply

Charlie Kirk called for an 'amazing patriot' to bail out Paul Pelosi's attacker in 2022
www.snopes.com

#28 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-09-13 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We must not allow the right to force us to tolerate their intolerance. January 6th, the Supreme Court, the president is a pedo, a rapist, and a fraud. These are all facts that are lied about or ignored daily by our bought and paid for media

#29 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-09-13 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Has anybody seen the widow of this Kirk? Wow! The woman is making public statements like some evil villainess out for world domination. I can see what her husband saw in her; She is just like him but with a skirt and makeup.

#30 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-09-13 10:20 AM | Reply

What I hate seeing right now are reels and reels of youngsters being interviewed and being asked about this event and they're openly saying Kirk deserved it.

Just fuel for more hate and division

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-13 10:37 AM | Reply

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Go look at a few hundred hours of the shit Kirk actually said.

Salmon Rushdie wrote a book and got his eye stabbed out.

You keep quacking about stoning gays, imprisoning your political rivals, and advocate for a police state don't expect a lot of sympathy.

The funniest thing about all this is the shooter killed him because he wasn't being as much of a fascist piece of shit as Nick Fuentes. Again, ho look it up.

#32 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-13 11:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just fuel for more hate and division

#31 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Don't panic! It's just our chickens coming home to roost.

THIS IS WHAT YOU VOTED FOR AMERICA.

Stop complaining and enjoy the FAFO.

Might as well relax sit back and enjoy it (as republicans like to say).

You have 3 more years of the Great FAFO ahead of you.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-13 12:10 PM | Reply

-Don't panic!

I'll try to keep my anxiety in check.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-13 12:18 PM | Reply

What anxiety?

I would think you're down with everything happening.

Concern troll.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-13 12:52 PM | Reply

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