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Migrants thought they were in court for a routine hearing. Instead, it was a deportation trap

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Migrants thought they were in court for a routine hearing. Instead, it was a deportation trap

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-- The Independent (@the-independent.com) Nov 19, 2025 at 8:05 AM

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FTA: This year, Associated Press reporters observed immigration court proceedings in 21 cities. Hearings repeatedly ended with cases dismissed by the government, allowing agents to arrest immigrants in courthouse hallways. AP reporters also reviewed internal records and spoke to judges, clerks and lawyers for the departments of Justice and Homeland Security to gain insight about the scope of the administration's effort.

#1 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-19 06:23 PM | Reply

... "Hopefully we meet again in a better situation." ...

a.k.a., ~just following orders~

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-19 06:53 PM | Reply

... The man was doing what the law required, and brought along his wife, a legal resident, and their 7-month-old infant. ...

Yet the Trump administration continues to ascribe the "violent criminal" attribute to such immigrants.

Maybe the Trump admin should be deported for all their lies?


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-19 07:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

None of this would be happening if these people had not come in this country without an invite.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-20 12:27 PM | Reply

This is clever.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-20 12:41 PM | Reply

This is clever.

#5 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Like it was "clever" to suddenly start an Epstein investigation after years of saying there is no need for an Epstein investigation because there is no there there.

This is short sighted and stupid and will do nothing but increase the distrust of the People in our government.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-20 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think unlimited immigration is far less harmful than what the Trump administration is doing.

Most immigrants work and contribute.

ICE is a Racist and Un American pack of Thugs.

The Brownshirts of the 21st century.

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-11-20 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

None of this would be happening if these people had not come in this country without an invite.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds

One of the reasons these people came to this country was to avoid authoritarian regimes and banana republics.

I guess Trump's a master of the bait and switch, too.

So much winning.

#8 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-20 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So Republicans kept saying that immigrants need go through the legal process and now they're being told they'll be deported for it.

#9 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-11-20 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

For all of you Trumpers who bleated: "We want them out because they aren't doing it the "right" way," wtf can you defend when those who ARE going to court to "do it the right way" are also targeted?

#10 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-11-20 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Every lawyer and judge associated with this should be disbarred and/or removed.

#11 | Posted by qcp at 2025-11-20 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is clever.
#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-20 12:41 PM

Anti-American.

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-11-20 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

None of this would be happening if these people had not come in this country without an invite.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-20 12:27 PM | Reply

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"[12]

There's the invite. Oopsie daisy.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-20 02:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#4 | Posted by Native Americans as they watched the European ships headed their way for the very first time

#14 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 02:20 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by Native Americans as they watched the European ships headed their way for the very first time

#14 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

On a continent without laws. The Native American was still stuck in a stone age when the rest of the world was entering an industrial revolution, and they would still be hammering rocks into tools if it weren't for Europeans.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-20 02:27 PM | Reply

#15 As usual, Left Hind Turds, the point completely flew over your pointy head.

Not at all unexpected.

#16 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 02:30 PM | Reply

and they would still be hammering rocks into tools if it weren't for Europeans.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

And instead of hammering rocks, they're now mostly extinct. What an improvement.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-11-20 02:49 PM | Reply

The Native American was still stuck in a stone age when the rest of the world was entering an industrial revolution, and they would still be hammering rocks into tools if it weren't for Europeans.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

"If it weren't for Europeans" . . . Oh my God, the list of horrors has filled myriad volumes and is only growing larger.

The Native Americans had a self-sustaining economy and a culture that lasted tens of thousands of years.

Yeah, boy, capital and development really improved the long-term outlook for the Americas.

#18 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-20 03:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#18 Thank you for that excellent retort. You hit the nail on the head with it.

#19 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 03:05 PM | Reply

The Native Americans had a self-sustaining economy and a culture that lasted tens of thousands of years.

LOL idiotic post, North Americane were 574 indian tribe, and was divided in Cultures of savagery. Culture of human sacrifice even in what is now America.

Human Sacrifice and Ritualised Violence in the Americas before the European Conquest
www.cambridge.org

FFS even the Anasazi people grew and collapsed their "culture"

What happened to teh Anasazi people ...
www.ancient-code.com

Yeah, boy, capital and development really improved the long-term outlook for the Americas.

From a %M to close to 400M I would say the US is much better than the cultures of old.

How do Americans not know their own Native Tribal history?

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-20 03:25 PM | Reply


#18 Thank you for that excellent retort. You hit the nail on the head with it.

#19 | Posted by A_Friend

Here's another moron ... oops.

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-20 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21 Ah, another meaningless post that references nothing and retorts even less.

Congratulations on continuing your (apparently) unending streak of nonsense.

You're most welcome, onemustbereallyfuckeduptochooseahandlelikethis.

#22 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 03:29 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by Native Americans as they watched the European ships headed their way for the very first time
#14 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:
On a continent without laws. The Native American was still stuck in a stone age when the rest of the world was entering an industrial revolution, and they would still be hammering rocks into tools if it weren't for Europeans.
#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-20 02:27 PM

The colonists brought technology, education and law - HAHAHAHA!!! Seriously, re-read how they required being taught how to survive by the indigenous.

Do you know why legislation passed to have only ONE day of Thanksgiving instead of hundreds?

#23 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-11-20 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jefferson wanted to preserve the Native American language but kill all the people.

You can look it up.

#24 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-20 03:46 PM | Reply

"The Native American was still stuck in a stone age when the rest of the world was entering an industrial revolution, and they would still be hammering rocks into tools if it weren't for Europeans."

Native Americans were easily conquered and were screwed over very very badly.

but your statement still rings true.

When Europeans were building cities, writing literature, music, developing medicine, building ships, developing maps, advances in transportation, etc.......the native Americans were wandering around dragging their stuff behind them. They hadn't figured out how to build a structure that could protect them from winter, nor had they figured out the wheel.

The last time I was in a local museum of a specific tribe, there was a display showing the teepee, the rocks they used to grind corn, some buffalo hides, and a campfire.

no chair, though. I asked the person who was speaking on behalf of the display..."where are the chairs? Didn't want to avoid sitting on dirt?". Her response, "I guess not" LOL

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-20 04:56 PM | Reply

25.

"Developing medicine." Many medicines these days have natural substances at their root. Think Europeans came up with that?

"Music"? Fine, for an opinion. How much indigenous music do you listen to, from cultures around the world? I happen to listen to a good bit. Matter of taste, I guess. How much NA music survives in its original form. Sorry if percussion doesn't grab you.

"Developing maps." Gee, they didn't need them. Nor private property.

"The native Americans were wandering around dragging their stuff behind them." Sorry if their functional way of life didn't suit contemporary Eberlian standards.

#26 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-20 05:15 PM | Reply

By "medicine" I was referring to a broad use of the term. surgery, hospitals, etc....not just "medicine".

"Sorry if percussion doesn't grab you." I was referring to Mozart, Beethoven, orchestras, and the masterpieces that came from that era.

"Didn't need maps". I guess nobody needs them. LOL

"Sorry if their functional way of life didn't suit contemporary Eberlian standards." Sorry if it sounds all so judgemental...which I guess it is.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-20 05:21 PM | Reply

"where are the chairs? Didn't want to avoid sitting on dirt?". Her response, "I guess not" LOL
#25 | Posted by eberly

Sitting in chairs is pretty much a Western thing, and unhealthy. The healthy way to do nothing is to cop a squat. Most Americans can't.

Haven't you heard the refrain "Sitting is the new smoking?". Don't they have stand up desks in Kansas? Sheesh.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-20 05:27 PM | Reply

"On a continent without laws."

Native Americans... didn't have laws?

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-20 05:29 PM | Reply

"Native Americans were easily conquered"

It took about 400 years.
That was easy?
You're an idiot.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-20 05:30 PM | Reply

"On a continent without laws."

Native Americans... didn't have laws?
#29 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The US Constitution was influenced by Native American governance, particularly the Iroquois Confederacy's Great Law of Peace, in its concepts of federalism, checks and balances, and a representative democracy. This influence is evident in the division of powers, the balance between individual states and a central government, and principles like free speech.

Federalism: The Iroquois Confederacy's system of uniting several nations under one confederacy served as a model for the union of the original Thirteen Colonies into a single republic.

Bicameral system: The structure of the Iroquois Grand Council, where chiefs are divided into two groups ("Elder Brothers" and "Younger Brothers"), is seen as a parallel to the US bicameral Congress.

Representative democracy: The Iroquois system included a representative body for decision-making, which influenced the idea of delegates representing their people at a national level.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-20 05:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Native Americans are where Ben Franklin got some of his ideas about democracy; from the Iroquois Confederacy in particular.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-20 05:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Isn't it something how the two Republicans can't help but spread their mythology that Whites civilized the natives?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-20 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Ben Franklin got some of his ideas about democracy; from the Iroquois Confederacy in particular."

I guarantee none of these dumbfuck Republicans knows what a Chautauqua is.

They peddle white nationalism; perhaps unknowingly, perhaps on purpose. But they were taught it on purpose.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-20 05:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

31-32

Semi-great minds think alike, lol.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-20 05:49 PM | Reply

I semi agree!

Yours came right out of your head tho ... AI did most of my work.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-20 05:52 PM | Reply

-Native Americans are where Ben Franklin got some of his ideas about democracy; from the Iroquois Confederacy in particular.

Good point. Facts are facts. Let's not pretend they don't exist.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-20 05:57 PM | Reply

But they were taught it on purpose.

#34 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Just watched The American Revolution, by Ken Burns.

www.pbs.org

Yes. Even I learned a few things I did not know.

For instance I always thought Betsy Ross made the first American flag.

Turns out ... Actually no one knows who made the first flag and it was never even flown in battle during the revolutionary war. (Which was actually a civil war.) Apparently the Ross family just started that as a rumor and then it was taught as a fact in our public schools.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-20 06:00 PM | Reply

-Apparently the Ross family just started that as a rumor and then it was taught as a fact in our public schools.

I would think the private schools taught it the same way.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-20 06:03 PM | Reply

Eberly: By "medicine" I was referring to a broad use of the term. surgery, hospitals, etc....not just "medicine".

For surgery, I refer you to pre-Columbian trepanation. European "doctors" were centuries later in mastering it.

academic.oup.com

(I worked on this book.)

Maps. Let's go back to those rampant numbskulls in Central Asia, who Boaz was helping to (...?). Didn't need maps in the 10th century. Let's consider

academic.oup.com

The Genius of their Age provides an overview of the life and works of Ibn Sina and Biruni from Central Asia. Both thinkers achieved stunning breakthroughs in various fields, such as medicine, astronomy, mathematics, philosophy, geography, and physics. Moreover, Biruni and Ibn Sina referenced the works of ancient Greeks and earlier Muslim thinkers to improve their respective canons. While Biruni produced precise measurements of the world, Ibn Sina's grand thesis of medical knowledge became the standard in Europe, the Middle East, and India for the next six centuries. The Genius of their Age also paints a picture of the Arab enlightenment by considering the age when Muslim scientists and philosophers from Central Asia anticipated the Western renaissance of science by half a millennium.

(I worked on this book too).

Biruni, who had never seen an ocean, predicted the existence of North America.

Cristobal Colon? Poser.

#40 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-20 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Yours came right out of your head tho

- The American Revolution, by Ken Burns.

Actually, I saw the first 10 mins of that last night on yt which is what reminded me of his admiration of the Iroquois Confederacy.

I posted that link this AM.

drudge.com

thanks for the PBS link with the Episodes

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-20 06:28 PM | Reply

I would think the private schools taught it the same way.

#39 | POSTED BY EBERLY

That's what they teach today. Hopefully.

It's not what they used to teach.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-20 06:38 PM | Reply

'Tis both amazing and reassuring to read the posts here. Bravo. You can be proud.

#43 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 06:47 PM | Reply

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