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Tuesday, November 25, 2025

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt says "all orders" from President Trump are "lawful orders," and troops have no right to question him.

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This administration lies so much they're now doing pre-crime PR for illegal orders that haven't even happened yet.

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Fuhrerbefehl in the original German.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-25 06:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Killing unarmed American civilians?

I imagine that has to be at the top of the list.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-25 07:49 AM | Reply

Just wow.

#3 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-11-25 08:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

So a Marine can't refuse an order from Trump to shoot me for blogging with RCADE?

Detrimental to military discipline?

Productive of chaos?

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-25 10:16 AM | Reply

Hiring fanatic cult loyalists who never question orders... is a contagious disease.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-25 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-25 10:43 AM | Reply

Trumpy is not into governing ... he is into RULING.

He will never understand that his job is to serve the public (as a public servant), not RULE the public.

THIS is why this episode won't end well and he will likely go down in history as the worst President ever.

Pro tip: Americans don't like to be RULED.

A soldier is obligated to refuse orders that are "manifestly unlawful""that is, orders that any person of ordinary sense would know are wrong or violate the Constitution, international law, or the Geneva Conventions. Following an illegal order can lead to prosecution for the service member.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-25 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

... White House: All Trump Orders 'Legal,' Cannot Be Questioned ...

Let's parse this statement.

First ...

... All Trump Orders 'Legal,' ...

Yeah, The Roberts SCOTUS has said that Pres Trump (and I paraphrase) can do no wrong.

... Cannot Be Questioned ...

Ah, here's the nub.

The Roberts SCOTUS may have given a blanket immunity to Pres Trump (again, I paraphrase), but has the Roberts SCOTUS given any such manner of immunity to those on the receiving end of his dicta?

So, while Pres Trump seems to have immunity if he performs illegal acts, do those who he commands have similar immunity?

And, if not, how do they protect themselves from facing a fate similar to the Nuremberg trials, (i.e., the ~I was just following orders~ defense)?






#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-25 11:52 PM | Reply

This sounds just like when Nixon claimed that when the president does something, then it wasn't breaking the law.

OCU

#9 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-11-26 12:24 AM | Reply

@#9 ... mhis sounds just like when Nixon claimed that when the president does something, then it wasn't breaking the law. ...

That aside,what about those who have sworn to follow that "something."

If that "something" is illegal, they may be held responsible.



#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-26 02:31 AM | Reply

@#9

I will also note that fmr Pres Nixon resigned when Congress turned against him.

If I may ask, what was the vote in Congress upon releasing the Epstein files?


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-26 02:34 AM | Reply

Unfortunately, related:

Befehlsnotstand (English: Necessity to obey orders) is a German legal term that refers to a situation in which a certain action is ordered that violates law, but where the refusal to carry out such an order would lead to drastic consequences, specifically danger to life or body, for the person refusing to carry out the order.

The concept of Befehlsnotstand was successfully used as a defense in World War II-related war crimes trials in Germany in the 1950s and 1960s[2] but research into the subject since has proven that Befehlsnotstand as such did not exist, meaning German soldiers of the Wehrmacht or Schutzstaffel did not actually face drastic consequences if refusing such an order during the war.
en.wikipedia.org

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-26 07:02 AM | Reply

#12: Sidenote about the Third Reich and their laws:

British author P.G. Wodehouse did not heed the advice of his friends and didn't evacuate France before the Second World War. Consequently France surrendered and P.G. Wodehouse was arrested and interred by occupying German forces as an enemy alien. During his arrest, one of the German officers said to the famous author: "Thank you for Jeeves" and gave him a few minutes to pack his bags.

By German law, P.G. Wodehouse was allowed to collect royalties from his previous writing while in detention and he was released from internment a few months before his sixtieth birthday, the age at which civilian internees were released by the Nazis.

How's that for the law-and-order Third Reich?

The First World War had one or two interesting German legal stories too which I'll leave for another time.

"Thank you for Jeeves."




#13 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-26 07:25 AM | Reply

Morning, Coriolanus ... Thanks for that early bit for the day.

"It was one of those cases where you approve the broad, general principle of an idea but can't help being in a bit of a twitter at the prospect of putting it into practical effect. I explained this to Jeeves, and he said much the same thing had bothered Hamlet."

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-26 07:54 AM | Reply

So it is the WH's perspective that military members are utter robots, and apparently the WH doesn't believe in the Uniform Code of Military Justice ...which is pretty damn nuts. Incompetence runs our country...

#15 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-11-26 07:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14: Hah! Now I have to remember which story that brilliant line emanated from.

Believe it or not, I came across two fellows recently where one never heard of P.G. Wodehouse (so I lent him one of mine) and the other never heard of Damon Runyan. So now I have two books MIA and my Umberto Eco staring at me with longful eyes and a dust toupee.

#16 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-26 08:14 AM | Reply

Incompetence runs our country..

And at the top of the heap is a convicted felon and adjudicated sexual abuser.
Land of the free, home of the brave.

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-26 08:26 AM | Reply

"White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt says "all orders" from President Trump are "lawful orders," and troops have no right to question him."

I call BS.

#18 | Posted by bat4255 at 2025-11-26 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I used to volunteer years back belonging to The Jaycees and Lions.

Jayce Creed
We Believe:

That faith in God gives meaning and purpose to human life;

That the brotherhood of man transcends the sovereignty of nations;

That economic justice can best be won by free men through free enterprise;

That government should be of laws rather than of men;

That earth's great treasure lies in human personality;

And that service to humanity is the best work of life.

Lions
The core values of the Lions Club are Service, Excellence, Diversity, Collaboration, Integrity, and Innovation.
These values guide the club's actions, which include responding to community needs, striving for high quality, embracing diverse perspectives, working together, acting with integrity, and constantly seeking new ways to serve.

Service: Being responsive to the needs of their communities and the world.

Excellence: A dedication to doing the best possible job in all their endeavors.

Diversity: An appreciation for different backgrounds, cultures, and perspectives among members and the people they serve.

Collaboration: Working together with a spirit of partnership to achieve common goals.

Integrity: Upholding a high standard of personal and professional ethics.

Innovation: A spirit of innovation in finding new and better ways to serve others.

I guess These values are outdated.

#19 | Posted by bat4255 at 2025-11-26 01:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

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