Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, April 05, 2026

At a closed-door meeting in 2021, ACLU attorney Chase Strangio declared, "If we take away these health care options, kids are going to die." The scrappy litigator uttered this dire proclamation in an address at the biennial conference of USPATH, the US branch of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, or WPATH. Strangio has played a pivotal role in the transgender movement's general refusal to offer concessions on the chief principles animating its cause. Most central, and controversial, has been the demand that minors identifying as transgender have access to gender-transition treatments, including puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and surgeries. Speaking to USPATH, Strangio entreated attendees to infuse legal and political advocacy into their work as doctors and mental-health providers. This battle cry was tempered with a foreboding vision

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Given that Donald Trump is setting the stage for another coup in a few months, I find these sorts of discussions trivial. You are offensive because you are shallow.

In this next coup, unless we are all incredibly blessed, a lot more than five people will die.

Hey, one or two of them might be transgender. That should make you happy.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-05 08:27 AM | Reply

Why do right-wingers hate transgender people?

What have these people done to be so hated and persecuted?

Whatever happened to the American concept of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

Canada has it.

Ottawa is helping transgender people with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Source: www.canada.ca

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-05 08:34 AM | Reply

Whatever happened to the American concept of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

People like BELL fancy themselves post-American. There's a new age out there somewhere, and by God they are going to wade through their own emotional filth to find it at the expense of as many people as they can.

As for school shooters, it's the number of kills that measures success.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-05 08:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All of a sudden the sex-obsessed rightwing is, "Oh, the children."

What percentage of American children and families is affected by this issue?

Want to care about something? Get off the BoazLola kick and do poverty, war, education, environment, and preventive health for all Americans.

"Transgender" or "two-spirit persons" have been around a lot longer than US liberals have. Or the US for that matter. Or Christianity.

Two-spirit persons appear in cultures that white Europeans/Americans have tried to demolish for centuries.

America would be a better place if everyone regardless of party was involved in lifting people up regardless of who they are, rather than demeaning them for what they are.

#4 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-05 08:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

More garbage pile nonsense from the usual suspect Jeff. Why am I NOT surprised??

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-04-05 09:04 AM | Reply

According to the drudge.com stats page when you click BELLRINGER, the name of this offender appears to be Tim Marcio.

Why is this hatemonger referred to as "Jeff?"

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-05 09:14 AM | Reply

He used the screen name JeffJ before he was banned for denying global warming.

As these misanthropes do, he came back with a new name.

He used to talk about a few things like a normal person does -- his family, his hobbies, especially smoking meat.

Now he only ever talks about how great life is in the Trump Cult.

It's a sad, self inflicted, slow motion suicide that we all get to watch.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 10:02 AM | Reply

Hi Snoofy:

So, his handle was "JeffJ" but his real name is Tim Marcio.

As you could see, all of this mishegoss transpired B.C.E.

("Before Coriolanus Emerged")

#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-05 10:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Not a single on topic comment. I know none of you read the article. It's very long and is about the trans medical profession not transgenderism itself.

And of course, Zed immediately talks about Trump because it's a singular term session for him.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 11:54 AM | Reply

Whhhaaaaa no one will play with me!

-jeff the lying piece of ----

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 12:01 PM | Reply

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 12:02 PM | Reply

Made it to third paragraph, second sentence

"Today, bans of gender-transition interventions for minors blanket more than half of US states."

Not gender TRANSITION- Gender AFFIRMING

Not interventions- HEALTH CARE

When you have to lie to make an argument you lose

How come a transgender minor cannot receive the EXACT SAME HEALTHCARE as a cis-gender individual?

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 12:05 PM | Reply

"Why do right-wingers hate transgender people?"

Without a group of people to hate, they can't feel good about themselves.

Morality is a zero sum game for them. There must always be an Evil force threatening is all with Impending Doom. They don't have any other way of understanding the world we live in.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12. I guarantee you didn't read more than a couple of paragraphs. It's because you are a close minded bigot.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 12:08 PM | Reply

Thank Gawd! Another trans thread! It's been hours!

69!!!

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-04-05 12:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

"Another trans thread!"

They are utterly obsessed with men's penises.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 12:16 PM | Reply

#15

You think maybe JeffyBelle is secretly trans?

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." - JC speaking in Matt 7, 1

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-05 12:17 PM | Reply

You think maybe JeffyBelle is secretly trans?

Just a troll. Trans, guns, Jeebus... works every time.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-04-05 12:23 PM | Reply

You think maybe JeffyBelle is secretly trans?

No. I think he hates himself for not having the courage to be trans. So he attacks trans people every time he thinks about it. Which is all the time, as we see here.

#19 | Posted by horstngraben at 2026-04-05 12:25 PM | Reply

"You think maybe JeffyBelle is secretly trans?"

Secretly?
He's openly sexually aroused by trans women.
He just doesn't realize it.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 12:26 PM | Reply

No jeff is a lying piece of ---- troll. He posts trans threads because he is a piece of ---- troll. He lacks basic human decency because he is a piece of ---- troll

No further analysis need be done.

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 12:30 PM | Reply

#12. I guarantee you didn't read more than a couple of paragraphs. It's because you are a close minded bigot.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

I can always tell when my insults hit home with jeff, because he tries to respond with something reminiscent of what I say about him.

Pathetic actually

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 12:31 PM | Reply

From the article:
"Dr. Natasha Johnson, a pediatrician at McMaster University in Ontario, reported at the 2022 conference that her team found no regret among 174 Canadian youth after two years of care at youth gender clinics. Any parent's objection to gender-transition treatment, the researchers concluded, was not tied to their children's own perspectives; and parental attitudes generally improved over time. "This suggests that parents' feelings should not be prioritized over the youth's experience," Johnson flatly said."

What is boils down to is self-determination among children.

Putting the patient first, putting the child first, is contrary to Republican beliefs that children must obey their parents and ought to grow up in a mold of the parents choosing.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 12:41 PM | Reply

I guarantee you didn't read more than a couple of paragraphs. It's because you are a close minded bigot.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

I guarantee you didn't read the Sermon on the Mount. It's because you are a close minded bigot.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-04-05 01:00 PM | Reply

Loving a child unconditionally is bad for the child.
--Republicans

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 01:02 PM | Reply

The lefties on this site are ridiculous.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 01:10 PM | Reply

Patricide Jeff's use of ivermectin ended in disaster.

#27 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-04-05 01:12 PM | Reply

No worries DingaLing.

Keep trolling em. Trollin Trollin Trollin, keep those trolls a comin!

That will fix em for sure!

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-04-05 01:17 PM | Reply

-Secretly?
He's openly sexually aroused by trans women.
He just doesn't realize it.
#20 | Posted by snoofy

"Watch your goodies, Laura! Jeffy is a trans sex maniac!".

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-05 01:31 PM | Reply

"You think maybe JeffyBelle is secretly trans?"

Personally I think he is still fuming about being "fooled" by one in a bar. There must have been a witness and they still rib him about it at Super Bowl Parties.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-04-05 01:50 PM | Reply

None of you even know what this thread is about.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 01:57 PM | Reply

No one cares, BullBringer.

Leave kids alone.

You ------- pedophile protector.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 02:03 PM | Reply

None of you even know what this thread is about.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger

it's about you trolling'

Cause you're a ----

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 02:11 PM | Reply

The country is burning down around us and pedoringer is still like "let's talk about trans kids..."

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2026-04-05 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" 34 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2026-04-05 02:18 PM | REPLY"

I'm able to talk about more than one topic.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 02:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'm able to talk about more than one topic.

You're able to suck Trump's dick while spreading hate?

Bravo.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 02:34 PM | Reply

The lefties on this site are ridiculous.
#26 | Posted by BellRinger

Say why.

The lefties on this site are ridiculous for acknowledging the existence of trans kids.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 02:36 PM | Reply

"Any parent's objection to gender-transition treatment, the researchers concluded, was not tied to their children's own perspectives"

JeffJ, is your objection to gender-transition treatment based on children's perspectives?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 02:41 PM | Reply

Clownshack,

Please explain how this thread topic spreads hate.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 03:04 PM | Reply

Please explain how this thread topic spreads hate.
#39 | Posted by BellRinger

It's hateful to tell the children they're sick and they're lying for expressing their beliefs about who they are.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 03:06 PM | Reply

BullBringer,

Donald Trump raped children and you don't care.

Your opinions are worthless.

You are worthless.

I don't respect pedophiles and their protectors.

---- off.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I see you can't answer my question.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 03:08 PM | Reply

Donald Trump raped children.

Transgender kids exist.

Which bothers you more?

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 03:09 PM | Reply

You still didn't answer my question.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 03:27 PM | Reply

You still didn't answer my question.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger

It spreads hate by once again drawing attention to trans people in a trolling manner

Face it you're a ------ human being

Nothing you post about trans people will be considered anything but an attack against them

Because you're a troll

It really is that simple

I'll point out that the DR's one known (and courageous) trans person called you out, so obviously a trans person views this (and every trans thread you post) as hateful

A good person would reflect on that

You will choose to do otherwise

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 03:37 PM | Reply

But you know all of this

You are a troll

in other words a ------ human being

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 03:38 PM | Reply

" It spreads hate by once again drawing attention to trans people in a trolling manner"

No, it doesn't. Nothing negative about trans people in the embedded article of this thread.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 03:43 PM | Reply

Notice BullBringer couldn't condemn pedophilia.

He's okay with raping children.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 03:44 PM | Reply

" It spreads hate by once again drawing attention to trans people in a trolling manner"
No, it doesn't. Nothing negative about trans people in the embedded article of this thread.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger a

That's not the point you insufferable bore

When YOU post about trans people YOU are a troll

NO ONE gives 2 ----- about YOU or YOUR threads

Because you are a troll

And because you are a troll what you post is hateful

That is why are spreading hate

As evident by the fact that the DR's lone courageous trans person reacts the way she does

Again, a good person would reflect on that

You choose otherwise

Now go and lie and deflect

Like a bitch

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 03:48 PM | Reply

Like I said. Because you are such a close minded bigot you have no clue what this is actually about.

You have to sign intent to me that I haven't taken simply due to your blind hatred and bigotry.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 03:51 PM | Reply

Like I said you are incapable of self reflection

#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 03:57 PM | Reply

I think Bell may have made more posts about this topic than the number of trans youth who receive hormone therapy in the US.

#52 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-04-05 04:04 PM | Reply

Nothing negative about trans people in the embedded article of this thread.
#47 | Posted by BellRinger

Is there something wrong with trans people?

If you weren't a coward, you'd simply answer "yes."

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 04:18 PM | Reply

I'm able to talk about more than one topic.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger

Just not the eroding economy, multiple illegal wars, illegal drone strikes on fishing boats, runaway ICE agents, dozens (hundreds?) of blatantly unconstitutional actions, a current attempt to subvert elections with unconstitutional federal intrusion...

Sure. Let's worry about the trans issue some more. Top of the list.

Or you could just admit you're an idiot and STFU.

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2026-04-05 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Problems" stem more from ignorant mf'ers thinking they can make Biology illegal.
Just because something is beyond your understanding isn't a reason to be scared of it.

#55 | Posted by morris at 2026-04-05 04:47 PM | Reply

JPW is grumpy because his last client roughed him up in the center stall.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 05:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" I think Bell may have made more posts about this topic than the number of trans youth who receive hormone therapy in the US.

#52 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2026-04-05 04:04 PM | FLAG: "

From AI

" There are over 35 significant LGBTQ+ pride and awareness days, weeks, and months observed annually ... "

But yeah, iv posted 3 or 4 threads on the general topic in the last 6 months. You can't constantly "celebrate" this stuff and then act like it's a verboten topic of discussion.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 05:17 PM | Reply

I'll point out that the DR's one known (and courageous) trans person called you out, so obviously a trans person views this (and every trans thread you post) as hateful

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 03:37 PM | Reply

The DR's tranny is a moron. Of course, that nut case thinks cutting off Mr. Winki is normal.

#58 | Posted by fortfisher at 2026-04-05 05:39 PM | Reply

There are over 35 significant LGBTQ+ pride and awareness days, weeks, and months observed annually ... "

"35 significant LGBTQ+ pride days weeks and Months"?

Weeks and Months???

Are we talking worldwide?

Are we counting the days during the month of June as separate?

There's never been a "gay pride week" that I'm aware of.

Your AI search is garbage.

Meanwhile.

Heterosexuality is celebrated 356 days a year and you're still acting like a victim.

Plus you still can't condemn pedophiles and the Republican Party which does nothing but defend and protect pedophiles.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 05:48 PM | Reply

Fuck off Ballwasher you pathetic MAGAT coward.

#60 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-04-05 05:50 PM | Reply

#58

At least she had one, Gumby.

#61 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-04-05 05:51 PM | Reply

" Heterosexuality is celebrated 356 days a year and you're still acting like a victim."

Which month is heterosexual pride month?

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 05:51 PM | Reply

And I'm quite sure you've had more than one.

#63 | Posted by fortfisher at 2026-04-05 05:52 PM | Reply

They need their pride time to make themselves feel better about being freaks.

#64 | Posted by fortfisher at 2026-04-05 05:54 PM | Reply

" And I'm quite sure you've had more than one.

#63 | POSTED BY FORTFISHER AT 2026-04-05 05:52 PM | FLAG: "

He gets called LegallyGivesHead for a reason.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 05:55 PM | Reply

" There are over 35 significant LGBTQ+ pride and awareness days, weeks, and months observed annually ... "

You're just jealous there is only 1 stupid lying cunt's day aka Piggy's birthday

#66 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 06:38 PM | Reply

My point flew over your bigoted head.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 06:40 PM | Reply

Trans people can't get the exact same healthcare that cis people get

Maybe we need more LGBTQ+ days

#68 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 06:40 PM | Reply

My point flew over your bigoted head.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger a

Your point, as always is to troll with hateful shit you pathetic weasel

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 06:41 PM | Reply


"35 significant LGBTQ+ pride days weeks and Months"?
Weeks and Months???
Are we talking worldwide?

I found it a high number as well, so I searched...

It seems even higher...

Months: June (Pride Month), October (LGBTQ+ History Month), November (Trans Awareness Month).
Significant Days:
March 31: International Transgender Day of Visibility.
April 10: Day of Silence.
May 17: International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia, and Biphobia (IDAHOTB).
May 22: Harvey Milk Day.
June 12: Pulse Remembrance Day.
June 28: Stonewall Riots Anniversary.
October 11: National Coming Out Day.
October 26: Intersex Awareness Day.
November 20: Transgender Day of Remembrance.

Which one is your favorite?

#70 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 06:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Heterosexuality is celebrated 356 days a year and you're still acting like a victim.

How? What is a straight parade these days?

Every celebration has a "gay pride" contingent.


What exactly does St Patricks day have to do with gay pride?

#71 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 06:51 PM | Reply

" Trans people can't get the exact same healthcare that cis people get"

Statement has no basis in reality.

#72 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 06:54 PM | Reply

Wow... 1Nut is famous!

www.reuters.com

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-05 06:55 PM | Reply


Plus you still can't condemn pedophiles and the Republican Party which does nothing but defend and protect pedophiles.

#59 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

You kinda lose the argument when Lumpers still haven't acknowledge the 300,000 missing kids transported across the country under BidenBorderBonanza.

This doesn't even begin to include the incredible number of rapes that were committed by migrant men against migrant women.

Its enough to make you scream out with enthusiasm, like you did of the Oct7th rape and killings

#74 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 06:55 PM | Reply

#73 | POSTED BY CORKYFromDumFukOcala FLAG: NeedsAttentionDuringEaster.

#75 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 06:56 PM | Reply

My point flew over your bigoted head.
#67 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Nah, pretty sure we all understand you're pro pedophile.

And completely obsessed with Transgenders.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 06:56 PM | Reply

Looks like jeff is lying again

As of early 2026, access to gender-affirming care (GAC) for transgender youth is heavily restricted in the United States, with over 25 states having passed bans on best-practice medication and surgical care for minors. These bans often make it a felony to provide such care.

Cisgender people rarely face systemic denial of routine care, such as hormone therapy, surgeries (breast augmentation, gynecomastia removal), or reproductive services, which are often classified as "medically necessary" for them but deemed "elective" or restricted for transgender people. Transgender individuals frequently face discrimination, lack of provider knowledge, and insurance exclusions for the same treatments

It is a felony to provide GAC for trans youth but the same procedures are regularly provided to cis youth

You were caught lying

Again

#77 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 06:59 PM | Reply

POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

You're so irrelevant.

Plus you suck at trolling.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 07:03 PM | Reply

Looks like jeff is lying again

It's how he gets his threads up in post counts.

Which I'm sure RCade appreciates.

#79 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-05 07:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" passed bans on best-practice medication and surgical care for minors. These bans often make it a felony to provide such care."

That applies to ALL minors and there is nothing "routine" about puberty blockers, chemical castration and surgical mutilation of minors.

#80 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 07:22 PM | Reply

But, at least you are finally talking about medical practices which just so happens to be on topic.

#81 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 07:25 PM | Reply

" passed bans on best-practice medication and surgical care for minors. These bans often make it a felony to provide such care."
That applies to ALL minors and there is nothing "routine" about puberty blockers, chemical castration and surgical mutilation of minors.

#80 | Posted by BellRinger a

Wrong lying piece of shit

Yes, a cisgender minor can get breast reduction surgery (sometimes called reduction mammaplasty), and it is a common procedure for teenagers experiencing pain or discomfort. While often associated with gender-affirming care, the vast majority of breast reductions in minors are performed on cisgender adolescents, frequently starting at ages 12"16.

You're just a liar

This has been pointed out to you numerous times

Yet you lie

Poorly

cause you are a lying piece of shit that no one respects

you are a bitch

#82 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 07:38 PM | Reply

If a gender confused it l has a huge rack which is causing pain and back issues they can get the same procedure. Also, breast reduction is not the same thing as a mastectomy, which is medically prescribed to prevent breast cancer, not as cosmetic surgery for a minor.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 07:44 PM | Reply

We are talking about minors who are not capable of informed consent being given permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 07:46 PM | Reply

Yes, a cisgender minor can get breast reduction surgery (sometimes called reduction mammaplasty), and it is a common procedure for teenagers experiencing pain or discomfort. While often associated with gender-affirming care, the vast majority of breast reductions in minors are performed on cisgender adolescents, frequently starting at ages 12"16.

Again, a cis gender minor can get this surgery for backpain. A transgender minor cannot get this for gender identity

Again, you are a liar.

#85 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 07:49 PM | Reply

We are talking about minors who are not capable of informed consent being given permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger

The exact same procedure is provided to cis yet you don't see that as "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

the only one barbaric and cruel is the lying piece of shit

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 07:50 PM | Reply

Yes, a cisgender (cis) minor can receive hormone replacement therapy (HRT), but it is used to treat specific medical conditions, not for gender transition. While "hormone replacement therapy" is often associated with gender-affirming care for trans youth, the same medications are used for cisgender children with hormonal imbalances or conditions like precocious puberty

Why can a cis minor receive HRT but a trans minor cannot?

The exact same procedure is provided to cis yet you don't see that as "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 07:52 PM | Reply

" Again, a cis gender minor can get this surgery for backpain"

So can a gender confused minor.

#88 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 07:54 PM | Reply

Why can a cis minor receive HRT but a trans minor cannot?

This is the reality people like JeffJ just don't care about.

Should minors be allowed to get breast reduction surgery?

Does your answer change when you learn that it's almost entirely boys that are getting breast reduction surgery?

Rogaine is gender affirming care for men, can we agree on that?

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 07:55 PM | Reply

" Yes, a cisgender (cis) minor can receive hormone replacement therapy (HRT), but it is used to treat specific medical conditions"

A gender confused minor can receive the same treatment for specific medical conditions.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 07:56 PM | Reply

HRT is typically used for women dealing with menopause issues. You know, adults.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 07:57 PM | Reply

"We are talking about minors who are not capable of informed consent being given permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures."

Sure sounds like you're saying those boys shouldn't be allowed to get breast reduction surgery to me.

What business is it of yours what other people do with their bodies?

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 07:57 PM | Reply

A trans minor needs the procedure for a different purpose

Why is the exact same procedure when provided to cis minors you don't see that as "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

#93 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 07:57 PM | Reply

HRT is typically used for women dealing with menopause issues. You know, adults.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger

Wrong

HRT can be used to delay puberty or to supply estrogen or testosterone for minors with low levels

#94 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 07:58 PM | Reply

"This is barbaric and cruel."

Tell me what's barbatic and cruel about removing large breasts from boys who don't want large breasts.

You can't.

You don't think it's wrong.

You only think trans people are wrong.

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 07:59 PM | Reply

Rogaine is gender affirming care for men, can we agree on that?

#89 | Posted by snoofy

So are nose jobs

#96 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 07:59 PM | Reply

Which medical conditions does a minor have that would necessitate the use of HRT?

#97 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 08:01 PM | Reply

Key aspects of body alterations in cis minors include:
Cosmetic Surgery & Aesthetic Procedures: There is an increasing interest and prevalence in cosmetic surgery among cisgender participants aged 12"21. In the U.S., over 260,000 cosmetic procedures were performed on individuals 19 and under in 2023, representing a 7% increase from 2022.

Common Procedures:
Breast Reduction: This is a common procedure for cisgender male teens dealing with gynecomastia (enlarged breast tissue).
Breast Augmentation: Performed on cisgender females.
Rhinoplasty (Nose jobs) and other aesthetic procedures.

Seems to me a cis minor can get all of the gender affirming care they want, permanently altering the bodies in all sorts of ways

#98 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:02 PM | Reply

" HRT can be used to delay puberty or to supply estrogen or testosterone for minors with low levels

#94 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2026-04-05 07:58 PM | FLAG: "

Those are distinct physical conditions.

#99 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 08:02 PM | Reply

Yes, a cisgender minor can receive hormone replacement therapy (HRT) or similar hormone-related medical treatments, but it is highly specialized and dependent on the medical necessity, such as treating conditions like precocious puberty (early puberty) or hormone deficiencies.

#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:03 PM | Reply

Breast reduction to alleviate health problems that come with an excessively sized rack is completely different than lopping them off.

#101 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 08:04 PM | Reply

Those are distinct physical conditions.

#99 | Posted by BellRinger

So, you are saying a trans minor cannot receive THE EXACT SAME PROCEDURE because..."...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

#102 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:05 PM | Reply

Breast reduction to alleviate health problems that come with an excessively sized rack is completely different than lopping them off.

#101 | Posted by BellRinger

So if a trans minor would like breast reduction and not a total mastectomy, you would be ok with that?

WHere is the line when breast reduction becomes "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."?

#103 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:06 PM | Reply

One thing is clear allowing jeff to further discuss this issue once again proves how much of a hateful bigot he is.

#104 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:07 PM | Reply

I'm not a barbarian.

Children shouldn't be allowed to butcher and ethnically cleanse their faces like Laura Loomer and Kristi Noem do.

But children should be allowed to choose their own gender, and if that involves hormones or surgery, those options shouldn't be taken off the table simply because some people find it offensive. All the medical literature I've seen indicates transgender greatly people benefit from these things.

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 08:07 PM | Reply

Of course Rogaine is not medically recommended for minors and we are talking about minors.

#106 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 08:07 PM | Reply

Breast reduction to alleviate health problems that come with an excessively sized rack is completely different than lopping them off.
#101 | Posted by BellRinger

What about boys.
Boys don't have breasts.
Boys can't lop them off?
???

#107 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 08:08 PM | Reply

Where is all of your outrage for the 260,000 cosmetic procedures done on minors with NO MEDICAL NECESSITY?

But to alleviate the pain of a trans minor those procedures are "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."?

#108 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

we are talking about minors.
#106 | Posted by BellRinger

We are also talking about gender affirming care.
Is Rogaine gender affirming care?

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 08:10 PM | Reply

to be clear breast augmentation to win a teen beauty contest is fine and dandy

breast augmentation to make a trans girl feel like her body matches her identify is .."...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

#110 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:10 PM | Reply

" So, you are saying a trans minor cannot receive THE EXACT SAME PROCEDURE because"

Nope. I'm saying if a gender confused boy's body is producing extremely low levels of testosterone which is impairing physical development a supplement is treated no different than for a non gender confused boy.

#111 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 08:10 PM | Reply

You are talking about mitigating the healthy bodies of minors.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 08:11 PM | Reply

Of course Rogaine is not medically recommended for minors and we are talking about minors.

#106 | Posted by BellRinger

Once again,

WRONG

Off-Label Medical Use: In rare cases, dermatologists may prescribe minoxidil "off-label" to treat pediatric hair disorders like alopecia areata. This must be done under strict professional supervision to monitor for side effects.

#113 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:12 PM | Reply

Nope. I'm saying if a gender confused boy's body is producing extremely low levels of testosterone which is impairing physical development a supplement is treated no different than for a non gender confused boy.

#111 | Posted by BellRinger

I am clear on what you are saying

the EXACT SAME PROCEDURE cannot be performed on a trans minor that can be performed on a trans minor. the underlying condition warranting that procedure is immaterial.

#114 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You are talking about mitigating the healthy bodies of minors.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger a

You're babbling incoherent hate

#115 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:14 PM | Reply

Again

Breast augmentation to win a teen beauty contest is fine and dandy

Breast augmentation to make a trans girl feel like her body matches her identify is .."...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

Seems far more likely that the generic teen beauty contest performer was pressured into that life by their parents while a trans minor has to fight all sorts of societal obstacles to get that care

#116 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:15 PM | Reply

Yes, some child beauty pageant contestants undergo cosmetic procedures, although this is generally rare and often involves non-surgical enhancements rather than permanent surgical operations.

#117 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:17 PM | Reply

Jeff is ok with sticking botox in some pre teen's forehead so she can win a beauty contest, but has major ethical problems with a teen receiving hormone therapy to allow them to feel like their bodies match their identity.

Of course, jeff is a pedo so there is that

#118 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-05 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Breast augmentation to win a teen beauty contest is fine and dandy

Are you saying their little speeches on global unity and the future of mankind don't matter?

#119 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-04-05 08:27 PM | Reply

Ballwasher rapes little boys

#120 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-04-05 08:35 PM | Reply

Twoothy has to equate beast augmentation with mastectomy of healthy breasts in order to try and make a point.

#121 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 09:15 PM | Reply

#121 You're the one diagnosing from afar, bell boi.

In order to try to make a point.

Not TH.

#122 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-05 09:18 PM | Reply

From AI:

" possible with parental consent. However, the FDA has not approved breast implants for cosmetic augmentation in patients under 18, and silicone implants are restricted to those 22"

#123 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 09:33 PM | Reply

#123 Flag: News that harshes bell boi's buzz

#124 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-05 09:35 PM | Reply

Which month is heterosexual pride month?

#62 | Posted by BellRinger

Which month is white History Month?

#125 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-05 09:35 PM | Reply


" possible with parental consent. However, the FDA has not approved breast implants for cosmetic augmentation in patients under 18, and silicone implants are restricted to those 22"

#123 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Otherwise known as OneIronauts rule against physically abusing children.


Which month is white History Month?
#125 | POSTED BY DBT2

Which months is Asian history month?

#126 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 09:41 PM | Reply


We are also talking about gender affirming care.
Is Rogaine gender affirming care?
#109 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No its male affirming care.

#127 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 09:43 PM | Reply

Which month is heterosexual pride month? - #62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-05 05:51 PM
Why, it is bell boi, it is just around the corner, this Summer...
You see, JeffJ bell boi, if you successfully traverse that gauntlet unscathed and are still committed to heterosexuality well, then, bravo ...

You survived Heterosexual Pride Month

#128 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-05 09:45 PM | Reply

Here you go Snooy, just because you don't know the difference between gender and sex.

Gender-affirming care is a range of social, psychological, behavioral, and medical interventions designed to support and affirm an individual's gender identity when it conflicts with their assigned sex.

#129 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 09:45 PM | Reply

" Trans people can't get the exact same healthcare that cis people get"
Statement has no basis in reality.

#72 | Posted by BellRinger"

Really?

American Journal of Preventive Medicine
"Disparities in Preventive Health Services Between Transgender and Cisgender Adults by State-Level Policy Environments"
Volume 69, Issue 4107954
October 2025

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"A Comparison of Chronic Conditions between Transgender and Cisgender Individuals with Recent Incarceration and in the Community in a United States County"
International Journal for Transgender Health. 2023 Nov 14;25(2):187-198.

doi: 10.1080/26895269.2023.2280175

"Study Reveals Significant Barriers for TGNC Adults Accessing Healthcare in the U.S."

A recent study by Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Health Policy and Management assistant professor Ellesse-Roselee Akre, PhD, MA, published in Health Services Research on July 10, 2024, examines the substantial barriers transgender and gender non-conforming (TGNC) adults face when accessing healthcare in the United States, underscoring systemic challenges that contribute to healthcare disparities within this population.

#130 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-05 09:46 PM | Reply

Which months is Asian history month? - #126 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-05 09:41 PM
Apparently, the months where basic English is not taught.

#131 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-05 09:49 PM | Reply

Which month is heterosexual pride month

Every month of the year, mr. oblivious privilege. It was your every day constant bleating of your privilege and demand that everyone act and do as you or else that resulted in Pride month.

You don't seem to have learned a thing.

#132 | Posted by YAV at 2026-04-05 09:49 PM | Reply

We are also talking about gender affirming care.
Is Rogaine gender affirming care?
#109 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No its male affirming care.
#127 | Posted by oneironaut

Which is a subset of gender affirming care.

What is gender-affirmative health care?
Gender-affirmative health care can include any single or combination of a number of social, psychological, behavioural or medical (including hormonal treatment or surgery) interventions designed to support and affirm an individual's gender identity.
www.who.int's%20gender%20identity

#133 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-05 09:59 PM | Reply

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