I don't like either the murderer or his victim. Karmelo doesn't have kids, right? Perhaps this is a twofer for Darwin.

What's the non-racist outcome when when person stabs and kills another?
#8 | Posted by visitor_

We will probably never know.

2023 Demographic Differences in Federal Sentencing

Key Findings
Sentencing differences continued to exist across demographic groups when examining all sentences imposed during the five-year study period (fiscal years 2017-2021). These disparities were observed across demographic groups"both among males and females.

"As will all left wing statistics intended to race bait"

Those are government statistics.

I guess simply keeping statistics is race baiting, when you're a racist.

Shooting the messenger isn't a valid argument, not that you care about making valid arguments.

The issue is the "others" who get off tend to exhibit a lighter lighter skin tone than Karmelo.

#14. I dont know of anyone people getting off easy for murder.
#16 | Posted by BellRinger

Open your metaphorical eyes.

Karmelo got 35 years, vs the 20 years that the post above me indicates is an appropriate sanction.

The questions...
They're just so hard.
#22 | Posted by THEBULL

Fair point.
The questions are easy for normal people.
They're hard for Deplorables.

So far the measurable deplorable responses are:
1. Do you have a link?
2. The statistics are liberal.
3. I'm not aware.

"why not give white rich people the same"

That would hurt White conservative feelings.
We Whites aren't as criminal as the Blacks.
That's why Whites don't need to be punished as much.

"Convicting a black man of murder is racist."

Sometimes it is.
You didn't know that?
You still don't know that.

So Snoofy is claiming that stabbing another person through the heart thus killing them isn't murder?
#41 | Posted by BellRinger

So JeffJ is desperate for anyone to notice him?

Maybe pick an instance where it's not justice. Where it's overly harsh or make a direct comparison to a similar crime where the white perp received a lighter sentence.
#42 | Posted by eberly

Like this?

Racial disparities in the justice system are well-documented, with the United States Sentencing Commission confirming that Black male offenders receive sentences roughly 13% to 20% longer than similarly situated white offenders for the same crimes.

"Snoofy, if you correct for whether or not they had a lawyer, racial discrepancy's go away."

Okay, so you're saying the racial inequality blacks face is real, and it extends to blacks having lesser access to effective legal counsel.

"It turns out to be class, not race."

Does it also happen to be that the black race... is also the lower class?

So it turns out to be both class and race.

"Look, in the 1920's during the Black renaissance, Blacks had the same poverty rate and the same crime rate as whites. What changed?"

Black Wall Street got burned down by jealous Whites is what changed.

"I just told you all he needed was lawyer"

That's like saying black poverty goes away once you correct for blacks not having as much money as whites.

Race and just about everything else are of course closely correlated with class.

But they're not interchangeable.

in the 1920's during the Black renaissance, Blacks had the same poverty rate and the same crime rate as whites. What changed?
#48 | Posted by HeliumRat

Where do you get this White Nativist propaganda from?
Please share the link.

"Snoofy, there is no White Savior."

Who ended slavery, was it Whites?

The problem is the destruction of the Black family.
#54 | Posted by HeliumRat

Golly, who spent two hundred years doing that through racial slavery and Jim Crow and more recently targeting black Federal government workers for mass layoffs?

Have you read John Birch?
#56 | Posted by HeliumRat

The guy Charlie Daniels sings about?

"I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church"

"The Black family did fine until about the 1950's"

"Did fine."
They went to segregated schools, drank from segregated water fountains.
They avoided Sundown Towns after dark.
They did fine!

By the early 2020s, multiple commentators and academics argued that the John Birch Society and its beliefs had successfully taken over the Republican Party and the broader conservative movement.[28][27][67][64][29][68] Efforts of Moms for Liberty in the 2020s to influence public education in the United States via school board elections and book bans have been compared to JBS's efforts in the 1960s.[69][70] When introducing legislation to withdraw the U.S. from the UN, Senator Mike Lee used "some of the same arguments to support the bill" that the JBS "first employed."[71] By the 2020s, some national Republican and conservative figures openly associated with the JBS.[65]
same link as above

"I'd like to hear a suggestion as to how to turn that around."

Turn what around?

I'd like to hear a suggestion as to how to turn that around.
#63 | Posted by HeliumRat

The destruction of the Black family.
#65 | Posted by HeliumRat

You already have your answer:

there is no White Savior. Only Blacks can help themselves
#54 | Posted by HeliumRat

It's interesting how Whites can harm blacks through slavery and Jim Crown and mass layoffs ordered by White Elon Musk.

But for some reason, yet to be explained, Whites somehow just aren't able to help Blacks.

"We abolished slavery, passed voting rights, civil rights, affirmative action."

Did we try giving them lawyers?

"if you correct for whether or not they had a lawyer, racial discrepancy's go away."

We didn't try making that go away.

in 1901 the Black bastardy rate was 3%, sane as for whites.
#77 | Posted by HeliumRat

Anything else happen in 1901 that might affect blacks?

"The gap between the Negro and most other groups in American society is widening. The fundamental problem, in which this is most clearly the case, is that of family structure. The evidence"not final, but powerfully persuasive"is that the Negro family in the urban ghettos is crumbling. A middle-class group has managed to save itself, but for vast numbers of the unskilled, poorly educated city working class the fabric of conventional social relationships has all but disintegrated."
Moynihan report, March 1965

"open borders, globalism, and race-communism"
So, Capitalism, Capitalism, and right-wing leetspeak.

race communism
(Internet slang, derogatory, politics)
Communism based on a racial rather than economic system, perceived to favour non-Whites against White people.

Usage notes
Typically from a right-wing perspective targeted at those they consider to be "anti-white".

Blacks are poor because of Capitalism.

Well, who can argue with that!

"You don't think we're imploding now?"

Let's see, Trump just put every American on the hook to give $1,000 to Iran.

Why lie about the Iran deal?
#88 | Posted by visitor_

There's an Iran deal?
Do tell!

We're celebrating 250 years.
#85 | Posted by Dbt2

Our President is celebrating being President in our 250th year.
Not so sure the country is really "celebrating 250 years."
It's a pale shadow of when our country celebrated 200 years.

So who's gonna stick it out for the long haul? I'm not saying whose approach is better. Who is making international friends of any stripe now? Who seems stable now?
#98 | Posted by Dbt2

As a Kenyan official once put it: "Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture."

(and further down the page on Reddit) :

Random Western dude: well how are you going to pay for the hospitals? They don't come for free you know.

Random other poster: Here comes the lecture!