Clown,

"The sooner you and people like you die off."

You're making a pretty strong argument for bringing back asylums.

Redial,

No...you aren't getting it at all.

They died for a cause.

I don't approve of their actions. That is what got them in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But, their deaths were not in vain, like so many are every day.

Dan,

"They hide their faces and their badges"

Be honest with yourself for a moment.

You know good and well why they feel they must protect their identities.

If you can't show any compassion for them and their families, I'm really sorry.

Dan,

I won't discuss the specifics of those 2 deaths.

Who I believe is responsible and how they could have been prevented.

I will say I believe they died for their cause and their deaths were not in vain.

They both pushed the envelope and actually accomplished what they wanted to do.

Fiend,

"entirely convinced they are winning people over"

No...you have me all wrong about what I believe.

I appreciate people like you and Dan and Laura and others.

I frame my thoughts here that I use in the rest of my life.

Dan,

"Instead, ICE has gone after the easiest of the easy."

How do you know that?

Have you been traveling embedded with them?

You have any earthly idea how dangerous their jobs are?

You're talking as though every ICE operation is simple and risk-free when you really don't know what they deal with.

Every day they go into situations most people would never willingly walk into, and they never know exactly what they're about to face.

Laura,

"No actually it isn't racist. Oopsie Daisy"

I believe it is.

Saying "that's mighty white of you" sounds like an implication of racial superiority or moral superiority tied to being white.

Fiend,

I knew what it meant.

It's still racist.

Dan,

"No need to clutch pearls; we all know you're going to vote to further enable them in November."

I might even convince someone here to vote with me, too.

Fiend,

"#11 Mighty white of you, bj boi."

Isn't that literally considered racist?

Who still says that?

Dan,

I heard about the bonuses.

Didn't I already agree ICE is in need of reform.

Dan,

"Where were you when Trump promised to go after the worst of the worst?"

I thought that was what was going on in the beginning.

Did Trump say "only"?

Dan,

"When will they start arresting gang members?"

I didn't know they haven't been.

Are you claiming ICE has only been arresting janitors and grandmothers?

ICE is out of control, or has been.

However, we don't need criminals being out of control, either.

ICE exists for a legitimate reason.

I would never support the idea of eliminating ICE, just reforming its tactics and objectives.