Saturday, October 26, 2024

Why are the Democrats losing? Hubris.

The Democratic political class cannot believe they might lose again to Donald Trump. "How could anyone vote for that man?" they complain. "He is just so gauche!" In a way, they have a point. Trump is gauche. His recent perambulations about Arnold Palmer are the latest in a long line of baffling utterances and improvisations. But mixed in with the weirdness is some smart campaigning. Trump's McDonald's stunt was a very sharp move (not genius, but pretty good for a standard political stunt). And of course, it sent Democrats on tilt at how undignified and cheap Trump was (again). The Democratic elites are so appalled by Trump they cannot bring themselves to give him any credit for anything. But the fact is, the former president has good instincts at self-promotion, unlike Kamala Harris or Joe Biden. Trump's delay, delay, delay legal strategy worked. Trump has the issue environment on his side. And Trump is currently the favorite to win.

Comments

... The Democratic political class cannot believe they might lose again to Donald Trump. ...

OK, for starters, the cited OpEd does not describe the Democratic political class.

Quite the contrary, it seems to go quickly into the "Democratic Elite" euphemism.

But, fwiw, I do not necessarily disagree with the overall view of the article, i.e., that the Democrats have blown their stance big time.

I mean.blasting it out of the ocean.

Once VP Harris' campaign transferred from ~happiness~ and ~the future~ to ~we are doomed if the other person wins,~ I knew there was a messaging issue.

Will that messaging issue be costly?

Well, November 5 is less than two weeks away.

And, with a rollback of Daylight Saving Time thrown into the mix for good measure. :)


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 01:56 AM

The one part of this op ed that rang true to me is that Democrats aren't focused on issues that are most important to voters, they are focused on issues that are important to themselves.

My gut is telling me Trump and the GOP will win by more than the polls are showing. My mind is telling me that Harris will eke this out and the down ballot races will be mostly a push.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-26 02:01 AM

@#2 ... The one part of this op ed that rang true to me is that Democrats aren't focused on issues that are most important to voters, they are focused on issues that are important to themselves. ...

I'm not yet convinced of that.

For starters, I think there is a distinction between national and state elections.

Nationally, yeah, I'd tend to agree with your comment at this point. The Democrats (a.k.a. the Harris campaign) seems to have blown it. But, how badly have they blown it? Nov 5 will tell. ...

But in state elections?

I'm not convinced of that opinion yet.

The issues are too local for me to understand each and every one of them.

I mean, my preference is just listening to music and occasionally reading news articles.

e.g.

Meat Puppets - Backwater (1994)
www.youtube.com

Cool vid, but it sounds different than the version I have in my music pool.

But to the point of your comment...

This Is Why You Don't Recognize Your State Government
www.bloomberg.com

... The impact on policy has been asymmetrical. For the past quarter-century, the public has become more progressive on many social issues, according to Gallup.

Blue trifecta states have moved with it, namely on abortion, gender identity, climate change, guns, immigration and voting rights.

Red trifectas, meanwhile, have hewed to their base and to policies that receive majority support only half the time -- rejecting Medicaid expansion, relaxing gun laws and cutting unemployment insurance. To many voters in the 23 Republican trifecta states, representative government is not representing them. ...


So the governing politicians in the Red trifecta states seem to dictate what they want to see in the behavior of their supporters, even when a majority of those supporters disagree with their enactments.

While the governing politicians in the Blue trifecta states seem to enact what their supporters want to see.




#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 02:36 AM

4 Non Blondes - What's Up (1992)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt...

genius.com

...
25 years and my life is still
Tryin' to get up that great big hill of hope
For a destination
I realized quickly when I knew I should
That the world was made up of this brotherhood of man
For whatever that means

[Pre-Chorus]
And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed
Just to get it all out what's in my head
And I, I am feeling a little peculiar
And so I wake in the morning and I step outside
And I take a deep breath and I get real high
And I scream from the top of my lungs
"What's going on?"

[Chorus]
And I say, hey-ey-ey
Hey-ey-ey
I said "Hey, a-what's going on?"
And I say, hey-ey-ey
Hey-ey-ey
I said "Hey, a-what's going on?"
...


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 03:49 AM

I agree, how can anyone calling themselves an American vote for this loser? Not even counting the insurrectionist and dictatorial tendencies, but the guy is an outright loon. Why do you want someone so obviously out of touch with reality to be POTUS?

#5 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-10-26 06:58 AM

Why do you want someone so obviously out of touch with reality to be POTUS?
#5 | Posted by TFDNihilist

Trump's opponent is a woman. And Black/Indian. That lost about five percent of voters right off the bat, which is all it takes in our electoral college system.

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 08:30 AM

Trump's opponent is a woman. And Black/Indian.

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 08:30 AM | Reply | Flag

You should have kept going about all of her other lifetime achievements. Especially her biggest lifetime accomplishment of not being Donald Trump, and don't forget the other big one - growing up in a middle class family with a really nice lawn.

#7 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 10:02 AM

You should have kept going about all of her other lifetime achievements. #7 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yeah, she's thoroughly unaccomplished.

Probably never raped a woman in a dressing room, cheated on her pregnant wife with a corn star, walked in on teen girls while they were naked in a changing room, been convicted of 34 felonies, instigated an insurrection, or declared bankruptcy six times either.

Pathetic!

#8 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 10:47 AM

Why are the Dems losing? Inflation and all the illegals they let in. I don't even need to get into character flaws of Harris nor Trump.

#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-26 10:57 AM

Pathetic!

#8 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 10:47 AM | Reply | Flag

Yes that's exactly what I say about all those black men she incarcerated for weed, then cackled about smoking weed listing to TuPac when she was in college.

For the trifecta:

incarcerated blacks for weed
admittedly smokes weed
lies about when she was in college smoking weed listening to black people music

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 11:05 AM

LFTHNDTHRDS

She got smart and grew up. It happens that way sometimes.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-26 11:15 AM

incarcerated blacks for weed
admittedly smokes weed
lies about when she was in college smoking weed listening to black people music
#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds
Exactly!

Lies? You care about lies? And you're voting for Trump? OK.

Rape & Insurrection < smoking the Devil's Lettuce

#12 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 11:31 AM

Rape & Insurrection < smoking the Devil's Lettuce

#12 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

LMAO No rape occurred. Even E Jean admitted that. What were you saying about lies again?

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 11:39 AM

No insurrection happened... Prove me wrong once and for all. Show me guilty verdicts for an insurrection. I'll make it even easier, show me a someone charged for insurrection in connection with J6.

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 11:40 AM

Judge confirms the orange chomo is a rapist.

www.washingtonpost.com

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-26 11:43 AM

LMAO No rape occurred. Even E Jean admitted that. What were you saying about lies again?
#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll even though he was found liable only for 'sexual abuse,' judge rules
In an opinion issued on Wednesday, US District Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over the trial, wrote that the trial evidence demonstrated Trump "raped" Carroll in the plain sense of the word.

"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape,'" Kaplan wrote. "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that."
www.businessinsider.com

#16 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 11:48 AM

" Show me guilty verdicts for an insurrection."

Will seditious conspiracy work? Because that's what they call it in court.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-26 11:49 AM

lfthndthrds = moron

GOP Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell rebukes RNC, calls Jan. 6 violent insurrection'

"It was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election from one administration to the next."

There's no question - none - that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. No question about it," he said then, calling it "a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty."

Top Trump Campaign Official Shared Tweets Calling Jan. 6 An Insurrection' Stoked By Election Lies

Nine different federal judges have blamed Trump for January 6th

In fifteen cases overseen by nine different judges appointed by Republican and Democratic presidents, courts have not minced words in declaring that Trump was the central cause of the January 6, 2021 insurrection, echoing the findings of the bipartisan January 6th Select Committee. Time and again judges have found that Trump inflamed his supporters with the lie of a "stolen" election, urged them to "fight" to take back their country, and sent them to the Capitol to "stop the steal." Trump used violent rhetoric to whip his supporters into a frenzy and do illegally what he had tried and failed to do legally: stop certification of the election for Joe Biden.

Need any more?

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-26 12:04 PM

Why are the Democrats losing?

I wonder if we can find examples of this from the early voting returns.

Marshall: Early Hints of Roevember?

Something I noticed in the first days of early voting was that most of the swing states that surfaced gender breakdowns for early voting showed around a ten point spread between men (~45) and woman (~55). There are more women than men and women vote more than men. But we're also seeing a lot more Republican early voting. All things being equal that high rate of Republican early voting should be compressing that gender divide. But it's not.

There are two other swing states releasing gender breakdown data for the early votes. And the numbers are comparable and actually larger. In Georgia it's 11.2 percentage points and in Michigan it's 13.1 percentage points.

But it's the Dems showing hubris in the face of reality? Might wanna recalculate that if the above numbers hold close for the entire electorate.

#19 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-26 12:37 PM

And Trump is currently the favorite to win.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Oh Rigger please! Trumpy is not winning, yet, and "democrats" are not losing, yet.

This thread won't age well. America is about to decide which way it is going. To remain as democracy's most powerful advocate in the world or will it be the beginning of the end American democracy and we go the way of the Roman Empire.

Humpy Trumpy lost to Joe Biden last time because of his own hubris.

And when Trumpy loses again. What will we can it?

A momentary reprieve as democracy will always be threatened and be undermined by the totalitarians and wanna be dictators of the world seeking its power.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-26 02:05 PM

Trumpy is not winning, yet, and "democrats" are not losing, yet.
~ DonnerBot

Agreed

Trumpy wins popular vote, Harris will win the Election.

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-26 02:15 PM

Need any more?
#18 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

I was hoping you would provide one.

But you didn't, you deflected to what people "claim".

I guess he's right, I had hope but you came up short.

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-26 02:17 PM

#16 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 11:48 AM | Reply

Even the jurors said she wasn't raped. Now, about those inappropriate showers.

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 02:39 PM

#2

Thumb in his ass, and his mind in Pedoville.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-26 02:41 PM

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds (NSFW)

It wasn't rape, it was sexual assault
Yeah.

That's a winning argument.

#25 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 02:42 PM

" Show me guilty verdicts for an insurrection."

Will seditious conspiracy work? Because that's what they call it in court.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-26 11:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

You might want to look up the definitions of each of those, Homer... Also, prosecutors didn't proceed with charges of insurrection because they couldn't prove it by definition.

The question that begs for an answer is; why do you and the rest of the clown brigade keep calling J6 an insurrection?

#26 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 02:44 PM

Trump couldn't get it up.

#27 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-26 02:45 PM

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 02:39 PM | Reply | Flag: 100% oops

#28 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 02:45 PM

The question that begs for an answer is; why do you and the rest of the clown brigade keep calling J6 an insurrection?

#26 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because I saw it live on Television, and I believe my eyes and not your quibbling lies.

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-26 02:46 PM

"...why do you ... keep calling J6 an insurrection?" -

#26 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The people spending years - and decades - in prison certainly appreciate your sophistry.

No doubt.

#30 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 02:53 PM

ARTICLE Author is Keith Naughton.... Keith Naughton is a Republican political consultant.

It's just shocking, shocking I tells ya, that he doesn't like Dems.

But thanks to Bullbringer, we get to see idiot articles like this posted as if they were unbiased news.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-26 02:55 PM

Even the jurors said she wasn't raped.
#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds
But somehow the judge found that she was raped. In the very quote from the judicial opinion that I copy/pasted. As the article notes "US District Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over the trial, wrote that the trial evidence demonstrated Trump "raped" Carroll in the plain sense of the word."

But I guess we can rely upon Trump's testimony in court to refute that. Oh, what's that? He refused to testify at that trial, like he always refuses to testify at his trials? That's weird. I heard something about people who do that, but I can't remember ...

Donald Trump Pleads the Fifth After Saying Only Guilty People Do
www.newsweek.com
If you don't think what Trump did to E. Jean Carroll was rape, that's fine. Would be terrible if you or someone you care about is ever "not raped" the same way.

#32 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-26 03:20 PM

Oh lookie what just turned up.

Trumpy gets caught lying again. Yawn, ... it is a day ending in Y, right?

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-26 04:04 PM

#33

Scratch that. It's a photoshop fake by the Russians to discredit Harris supporters.

#34 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-26 04:06 PM

#33 | Posted by TonyRoma at 2024-10-26 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag: Funny and very, very Newsworthy

#35 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 04:07 PM

The question that begs for an answer is; why do you and the rest of the clown brigade keep calling J6 an insurrection?

#26 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-26 02:44 PM | Reply

Because the dictionary says it is. Ever heard of a Dictionary??

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-26 04:09 PM

"Would be terrible if you or someone you care about is ever "not raped" the same way."

#32 | Posted by censored

#37 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 04:09 PM

Even the jurors said she wasn't raped.
#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds
But somehow the judge found that she was raped. In the very quote from the judicial opinion that I copy/pasted. As the article notes "US District Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over the trial, wrote that the trial evidence demonstrated Trump "raped" Carroll in the plain sense of the word."
But I guess we can rely upon Trump's testimony in court to refute that. Oh, what's that? He refused to testify at that trial, like he always refuses to testify at his trials? That's weird. I heard something about people who do that, but I can't remember ...
If you don't think what Trump did to E. Jean Carroll was rape, that's fine. Would be terrible if you or someone you care about is ever "not raped" the same way.
#32 | Posted by censored

Let's clear this up once and for all. The reason the jurors didn't find that Trump raped her is because at the time of Trump's trial rape was defined as being sexual intercourse. That law in NY state has since been changed partly as a result of Trump's case:

New York expands the legal definition of rape to include many forms of nonconsensual sexual contact
Jan 30, 2024

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) New York will expand its legal definition of rape to include various forms of nonconsensual sexual contact, under a bill signed into law by Gov. Kathy Hochul on Tuesday.

The state's current limited definition was a factor in writer E. Jean Carroll's sexual abuse and defamation case against former President Donald Trump. The jury in the federal civil trial rejected the writer's claim last May that Trump had raped her in the 1990s, instead finding the former president responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse.

The current law defines rape as ------- penetration by a penis. The new law broadens the definition to include nonconsensual ----, oral, and ------- sexual contact. Highlighting Carroll's case at a bill signing ceremony in Albany, the Democratic governor said the new definition will make it easier for rape victims to bring cases forward to prosecute perpetrators. The law will apply to sexual assaults committed on or after Sept. 1.

"The problem is, rape is very difficult to prosecute," Hochul said. "Physical technicalities confuse jurors and humiliate survivors and create a legal gray area that defendants exploit."

In Carroll's case against Trump, which stemmed from an encounter at a Manhattan luxury department store, the judge later said that the jury's decision was based on "the narrow, technical meaning" of rape in New York penal law and that, in his ----ysis, the verdict did not mean that Carroll "failed to prove that Mr. Trump raped' her as many people commonly understand the word rape.'"

While various states define rape in different ways, every state criminalizes oral, ----, and ------- sexual contact that is nonconsensual, according to Sandi Johnson, a senior legislative policy counsel at Rape, Abuse, & ------ National Network. Prior to its new law, New York defined penetration of the vagina or other bodily orifices with anything other than a penis as "sexual abuse" rather than "rape."

Many other states continue to place unwanted oral or ---- sexual contact in a category other than rape.

www.pbs.org

I hope that clears up the issue.

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-26 04:38 PM

It would appear that reluctance germinates as Biden 2.0 is revealing itself.

Not one single issue is discussed on this thread, just character flaws - no policy.

WWIII, for instance.

#39 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-27 09:39 AM

My gut is telling me Trump and the GOP will win by more than the polls are showing

Of course, you do, Trumper.

#40 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-27 11:24 AM

The question that begs for an answer is; why do you and the rest of the clown brigade keep calling J6 an insurrection?

#26 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yup.

It's the stupids, stupid.

It's been answered a thousand times.

insurrection- an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt."

Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio gets record 22 years in prison for Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy.

Tarrio is the final Proud Boys leader convicted of seditious conspiracy to receive his punishment. Three fellow Proud Boys found guilty by a Washington jury of the rarely used sedition charge were sentenced to prison terms ranging from 15 to 18 years.

The Justice Department is appealing the 18-year prison sentence of Rhodes, the Oath Keepers founder, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy in a separate case, as well as the sentences of other members of his antigovernment militia group that were lighter than what prosecutors had sought. Prosecutors had requested 25 years in prison for Rhodes.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-27 12:54 PM

Wow, rather than the laughs from intellectualizing legal definitions of "legitimate" does anyone have ideas about what might be the issues at stake?

Swing states are the only ones not "in the bag", right? I wonder why? Does that impact the national view?

Electoral college is theft of democracy.

Defending Israel is unconscionable.

Or, it's because "Orange man bad" and "black woman at the gates!"

#42 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-27 03:56 PM

Why are the Democrats losing? Hubris.

Democrats aren't losing.

But there's an effort to make it appear as such.

He who controls the narrative controls the nation.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-27 04:10 PM

#14

There are 6 convictions for seditious conspiracy ... . The ACT OF INCITING AN INSURRECTION ... ..

Their was no one charged with insurrection because the ones they incited into said insurrection were unwitting participants.

All better?

#44 | Posted by ABH at 2024-10-27 06:30 PM

Left:

www.law.cornell.edu

Your attempt to claim "happy" and "glad" are unrelated terms, is noted. An excellent effort at obfuscation, but ultimately, unsuccessful.

#45 | Posted by ABH at 2024-10-27 06:36 PM

@#14 ... No insurrection happened... Prove me wrong once and for all. ...

What is there to prove your current alias wrong about.

It is correct that no insurrection happened.

What did seem to occur, however, was an insurrection attempt that did not succeed.


#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-27 06:37 PM

An attempted insurrection IS an insurrection. It does not need to succeed to be one.

#47 | Posted by ABH at 2024-10-27 06:50 PM

" You might want to look up the definitions of each of those"

I did. Did you?

Seditious Conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or government.
Looks like folks who incite an attempted insurrection are guilty of seditious conspiracy.

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-27 06:54 PM

It's fascinating reading anyone trying to have a discussion with posters like Lfthndturds who so thoroughly reject reality in order to maintain their beliefs.

You can't discuss anything with people like him.

It's what has turned the Republican Party into a cult.

They readily reject facts and reality in order to maintain their delusions.

You want to know how the ayatollahs stay in power? You're witnessing it now with the MAGA cult. A rejection of reality and a blind devolution to the their cult.

Should Trump win in two weeks, what will befall this nation will be nothing short of tragic.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-27 07:04 PM

I feel the same way, ClownShack. The Republican nominee is an absolute fraud of a human with zero integrity, who refused to accept the fact that he lost in 2020 and is already refusing to accept his likely loss in 2024. The Democrat has the normal level of baggage that any candidate from either party has, but again, the Republican is a vengeful and dishonest madman whose unsuitability for office is unparalleled in the nation's history.

Trying to reason with anyone who still supports the Republican is a waste of time.

#50 | Posted by cbob at 2024-10-27 08:07 PM

Democrats are losing because there is nothing they do that clearly represents competence, ethics and policy that puts USA citizens first. Then Dems install a pair of losers ( or three depending ) as candidates. His decision to use MSG as venue today in NYC was brilliant. Always America First by Trump and America last by Dems.

#51 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-27 08:48 PM

"Democrats are losing because..." -

#51 | robson | Flag: A proud Russian bot since 2006 (perhaps)

#52 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 08:52 PM

The panic is palpable as the 538 and RCP averages slowly shift towards Trump.

#53 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-28 10:08 AM

Just handing Republicans the Presidency, House, & Senate, over grocery store prices.

#54 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-28 10:10 AM

Magats will be surprised how grocery store prices will skyrocket under a second ------- administration.

They will find a way to blame marxists.

Cause they are stupid.

#55 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-28 10:14 AM

The panic is palpable as the 538 and RCP averages slowly shift towards Trump.

#53 | Posted by sitzkrieg a

One wonders why you aren't panicking over the election of a fascist.

#56 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-28 10:15 AM

Because there will be another election in 4 years.

#57 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-28 10:23 AM

There's a nonzero chance that you are wrong.

Why are you willing to take that chance?

#58 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-28 10:36 AM

I already voted.

But lets go down that road. There's no election in four years. What are you doing about it? How good with an AR are you?

#59 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-28 10:46 AM

So, you've cast your vote for the man who hates America. Not surprising.

That is a good question.

Me being an avowed pacifist, I won't be taking the way of the gun.

I am thinking more along the way of the White Rose.

The written word will be important combatting the nihilism of the magat movement.

I am actually optimistic that a substantial number of Magats will have a conscience. That type denies their support of the war on Iraq-thus demonstrating a modicum of shame.

I am somewhat optimistic that when images akin to Elian Gonzalez in a closet being terrorized by a jackbooted thug become common place that even people like you will say "too much"

I have a seed of hope that seeing ------- decide elections are no longer needed or safe and the 25th Amendment no longer applies, that many magats will realize that democracy is important.

I am a dreamer that magats will be harmed by -------'s dictatorship and come to the realization that they themselves are responsible for him.

Hope will find a way.

And not that I would ever advocate for violence, I will just put it out there that if Georg Elser set his clock 15 minutes earlier, the world would be a better place.

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-28 11:26 AM

lol I voted for Harris.

So if Fascism overtakes America, you'll do absolutely nothing. Cool story bro.

#61 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-28 12:30 PM

It's a Secret Ballot.

We'll have to take your word on whom you Voted for?

????

#62 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-10-28 02:48 PM

Democrats are losing because there is nothing they do that clearly represents competence, ethics and policy that puts USA citizens first.

If there is a God and He really wants to Bless America then Trumpy the Twice Impeached Convicted Felon and wannabe Dictator will lose and you and he will slink away back under the rocks you came from never to be heard from again.

#63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-28 06:45 PM

Re 63

Correction.

... .Will Lose AGAIN ... .

#64 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-28 06:48 PM

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