I tried having a discussion with Boaz last week.

I could not get him to admit even one simple fact-that the former president is a rapist.

I posted links about the case, I posted links to quotes from the trial judge, I posted facts about the incident, I posted the logic of how defining someone as such can be based on a court's decision.

No matter the facts, he refused to admit that the former president was a rapist. He denied the judge said what he said, he denied the results of the lawsuit, he denied the authority of the court.

The fact is simply true that the former president was found liable for sexual assault in an American court that the judge overseeing the case characterized as rape as understood in common vernacular.

So, go ahead and explain to me how democrats failed. How electing a rapist as president isn't the triumph of toxic masculinity.

Go ahead and present a path forward to get people so devoid of morals that they voted for a rapist to change

Explain how it is possible to change the minds of people so stubbornly ignorant.

I'll wait for an answer.

LMAO... You've been a completely unmitigated dumpster fire as well as mentally unhinged since the election. Saying you "tried" to have a conversation with anyone who didn't vote for Harris is ridiculous.

#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds a

Are you arguing that Boaz would admit that the former president is a rapist if my rhetoric was kinder?

Do you agree he is a rapist?

I like how you can see into the future and tell everyone what is going to happen but you're blind to what's been happening for the last 4 years. Isn't that something...

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds

It doesn't take Nostradamus to know that putting massive tariffs on things people buy will raise the cost of the things people buy.

Unless he is lying about putting tariffs on stuff.

Do you think he is lying?

No

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds

See, even when I ask calmly you still chose willful ignorance.

No

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds

See, even when I ask calmly you still chose willful ignorance.

You should take a break from posting in general. You aren't well.

Other than that, you have four long years to keep notes so that you can tell me who wrong I was. Keep good notes..

#29 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I am quite well, I will do quite well over the next 4 years, my loved ones will do quite well, rest assured.

Unless that is, the incoming president chooses to target me for harassment. A long shot but distinctly not a zero chance outcome.

People who voted for him, will not be doing well, it is as predictable as the disaster that occurs during every republican presidency for the last many years.

I, of course, am intelligent enough to see what he is doing and what that portends.

If the man does what he says he will do.

If he lied, then his voters might do ok.

You don't try crimes in a civil court. You also shouldn't have to change the statutes of limitations just to make a case.

His accuser couldn't remember much about it including when it happened. One thing she will remember - not getting paid.

#34 | Posted by lfthndthrds

No one mentioned criminality.

He was found liable for what the judge stated was rape, as understood colloquially.

So, we have you denying the fact.

We have you attempting to insert irrelevant facts.

You attempt to distract with a timing issue-as if that changes the facts.

You attempt to denigrate the accuser to imply she wasn't raped.

Then you insult her.

See, these are all examples of what I mean, stubborn ignorance.

He was found liable in an American court for raping a woman. All of your distractions, lies and misstatements do not change that simple fact.

You cannot admit that.

And I freely admit that that is a common issue.

But, that is a YOU issue, not a democratic party issue.

You voted for a rapist. You deny you voted for a rapist. I ask again

How electing a rapist as president isn't the triumph of toxic masculinity.

Go ahead and present a path forward to get people so devoid of morals that they voted for a rapist to change

Explain how it is possible to change the minds of people so stubbornly ignorant.

Clownshack's morals are as gone as that payment E Jean was waiting on.

#43 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Is it moral to not pay your legally obligated debts?

Shoot, is it moral to not pay your contractually obligated debts?

Another reminder, the former president's company was found guilty of fraud and fined nearly 1/2 billion dollars.

People will be along to deny this happened.

-No one mentioned criminality.

is rape a crime it not?

#49 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yes

Can one be a rapist and not convicted of rape?

Careful now, that is a trick question.

I just want to point out that I demonstrated the problem facing America and the democratic party yet again.

We live in separate realities.

When faced with simple irrefutable facts, the ex-president's supporters stubbornly deny reality. A simple irrefutable fact that SHOULD have been automatically disqualifying for a presidential candidate (a fact among many that should have disqualified him).

When shown this reality, they deny, deny, deny and then simply run away. (and yes, I recognize that the person I am debating in this thread is a troll, the problem is it is often impossible to distinguish between trolls and people who voted for the ex-president)

That is the crux of the problem.

It is not the message, or the messenger or the messaging, it is not the candidate, it is not left wingness, or centristness, or policies, or demographics.

The problem is people who will simply not accept reality.

As a result, the elected a rapist, a conman, an insurrectionist, a thief, the-by far most corrupt person to ever hold high office.

It is moral bankruptcy of the highest order.

Until this can be solved I don't know of any action that the democratic party can do to change things.

Fortunately, disaster has a way of breaking through such stubbornness for reality does not come lubed.