Tuesday, August 19, 2025

Trump Wants to Stop Mail in Voting and Voting Machines

President Trump announced Monday on his social media site, Truth Social, that he plans to "lead a movement" to get rid of mail-in ballots and voting machines in the country ahead of next year's midterm elections.

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One step away from if you end elections you're not going to have any Democrats get elected Giving the whole vote suppression game away

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-- Michael McDonald (@electproject.bsky.social) Aug 18, 2025 at 1:52 PM

I don't mean to dunk on people but when you say "The illegality of a voting-related EO issued by this Admin hasn't stopped him yet" you are literally, factually wrong www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ana ...

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-- Kevin Morris (@kevintmorris.bsky.social) Aug 18, 2025 at 3:33 PM

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And, btw, I told you so.

------- is setting up to steal the 2026 and 2028 elections-Texas Gerrymandering, disinformation about voting, mobilization of NG to blue cities.

Wake the ---- up people!

Thanks Magat Scum

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-08-18 07:46 PM

"Part of his plan includes signing an executive order that bars states from using mail ballots"

So uh,
Setting aside how illegal that is,
How's the military supposed to vote?

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-18 08:50 PM

PEDO DONNIE is panicking.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-18 09:27 PM

How are old people supposed to vote?

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-18 09:50 PM

#2
More of snoofy not understanding something.

Absentee ballots have chain of custody

Mail in ballots like those in CA don't.

It's pretty simple, but clearly beyond your education level.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-18 09:57 PM

How are old people supposed to vote?

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-18 09:50 PM | Reply

They obviously don't care. It's how to rig the system in order to stay in power. They don't have a good policy so they cheat to win.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-18 09:57 PM

Absentee ballots have chain of custody
Mail in ballots like those in CA don't.
It's pretty simple, but clearly beyond your education level.

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-18 09:57 PM | Reply

Absentee ballots go through the same mail service that mail in ballots do. There's no difference between the two.

OOPSIE DAISY

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-18 09:59 PM

"How are old people supposed to vote?"
"That's the neat part, you don't."
knowyourmeme.com

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-18 10:07 PM

www.lwv.org

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-18 10:11 PM

He doesn't have the power to change or eliminate how people vote. The Constitution says states have the authority to decide how their people vote NOT the federal government. He's just trying to usurp powers he doesn't have yet again.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-18 10:11 PM

"get rid of mail-in ballots and voting machines"

David Frum saw this coming seven years ago. David Frum, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, stated in 2018 that
If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.

We are seeing Republicans reject democracy before our very eyes.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-18 10:18 PM

Jeff is a lying little ----, and a pathetic ------- coward.

#12 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-18 10:34 PM

What's with making sure everyone that wants to vote can vote? Mail-in ballots go to registered voters. Jeff is a pathetic ----------.

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-18 10:36 PM

" He doesn't have the power to change or eliminate how people vote. The Constitution says states have the authority to decide how their people vote NOT the federal government. He's just trying to usurp powers he doesn't have yet again.

#10 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-08-18 10:11 PM | FLAG: "

You are correct. It's why I also opposed the national voting law Dems tried to pass during Biden's term.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-18 10:59 PM

Of course, he does. It's all about control.

This will be yet another usurpation of Constitutional power that will get nary a peep from our "patriotic constitutional conservatives."

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2025-08-18 11:14 PM

You are correct. It's why I also opposed the national voting law Dems tried to pass during Biden's term.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

Which ones specifically did you oppose?

#16 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-08-18 11:27 PM

"national voting law"

Uh huh.

Republicans will demand voters produce ID, but won't ever support a national voter ID.

Because that would let the people bypass State ID restrictions by getting the Federal ID.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-18 11:42 PM

Ballwasher the Russian ----------- ---- can't go ---- his cowardly ass.

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-19 12:12 AM

One,

"Absentee ballots have chain of custody
Mail in ballots like those in CA don't.
It's pretty simple, but clearly beyond your education level."

Correct.

Absentee ballots have always carried some inherent risks, but because they are limited in scale, those risks have never been large enough to alter an election outcome.

Mass mail-in voting is a different story. Expanding that system to millions of ballots magnifies every weak spot such as lack of chain of custody , lost ballots, and the potential for mishandling due to human error or even fraud.

Moving millions of uncounted ballots without tight custody controls is an open invitation for disaster. Suppose a truck or an airliner carrying hundreds of thousands of uncounted ballots crashed and burned.

Presidential elections demand the highest level of trust and reliability. The only method that provides both is in person early voting, where custody and verification are built in.

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 10:57 AM

"Mass mail-in voting is a different story. Expanding that system to millions of ballots magnifies every weak spot such as lack of chain of custody , lost ballots, and the potential for mishandling due to human error or even fraud."

It's been five years. Why has NO ONE come forward with your scenario?

If your theory was correct, they'd be coming out of the woodwork, ESPECIALLY after a close election.

Why has NO ONE come forward, when they'd have every reason to speak up? There are only two options: they're complicit, or you're making bullschitt claims without a scintilla of proof.

Neither of us believe they were complicit.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-19 11:04 AM

Regarding voting machines, some are still in use that lack a verifiable paper trail.

Those machines should be banned outright.

Most states are moving away from them and adopting systems where voters mark a paper ballot, feed it into a scanner, and can watch their vote being recorded.

When combined with early voting, this system solves most of the logistical problems of getting people to the polls on time, while also improving accessibility and strengthening public trust thus preventing the kind of doubt and chaos that fueled January 6.

#21 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 11:07 AM

""Absentee ballots have chain of custody. Mail in ballots like those in CA don't."

Bald-faced lie. Absentee Ballots ARE mail-in ballots. Same chain of custody, for both.

You're pretending an absentee ballot isn't subject to what you assume mail-in ballots are subject. That's either hubris, or ignorance.

Oregon has had mail-in ballots for 30 years; never a whiff of fraud. Military has been doing it for over a century and a half.

Where are the fraud cases from these long-standing systems? Or, more to the point, if this is so rampant, WHY CAN'T YOU FIND ONE CASE?

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-19 11:08 AM

Dan,

Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean you're right.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 11:09 AM

Danforth is murdering you, bill.

You've got NOTHING.

#24 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-19 11:13 AM

Dan,

Last response in this thread.

It's a matter of scale.

What is tolerable in small numbers breaks down when you expand it to millions.

#25 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 11:13 AM

Last response in this thread.

Run. Chicken ----.

#26 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-19 11:15 AM

"Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean you're right."

What I get it, it's been five years, and STILL no one agrees with you enough to come forward and say it happened to them.

ZERO.

Just like your proof.

And being a math guy, I know with odds like that, where TENS OF THOUSANDS WERE DEFRAUDED, BUT NO ONE SPOKE UP, the only conclusion is: the fraud didn't happen on any scale but the usual garden-variety of someone voting for their dead mother-in-law.

Just because YOU don't get it, doesn't mean you're right.

If the fact NO ONE has come forward doesn't ----- you, you're too stupid for self-analysis.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-19 11:15 AM

"It's a matter of scale."

And the scale had to be so large (tens of thousands of votes), the victims would've identified themselves by now.

How many stories you can link do you have so far?

If that number is zero, please have the human dignity to admit it.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-19 11:18 AM

Run. Chicken ----.

#26 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Isn't that the theme song for Trumpy's new and improved Presidential Youth Fitness Program?

I think it's called, "Run you chicken ----, run!"

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 11:22 AM

Bill is expressing theory without any evidence.

real evidence.

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 11:27 AM

"What is tolerable in small numbers breaks down when you expand it to millions."

Tens of thousands isn't a small number.

And the story would be a simple one: I got a mail-in ballot, and my (roommate/sibling/parent) took it, and voted for Biden.

After a close election, folks would've come out of the woodwork in droves, all telling the same story. Even if 99% of the victims never made a peep, that'd be HUNDREDS of victims coming forward.

Instead, after five years, we've seen ZERO voters make your claim.

Statistics and human nature teach us at least SOME of the tens of thousands would speak up. The fact NO ONE has come forward, 5 years later, and you're still clinging to an impossible scenario, just makes you look clueless.

Or worse: like you're purposely bearing false witness, for a political purpose.

Jesus wept.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-19 11:29 AM

Run. Chicken ----.
#26 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

I think Bill is dead wrong but he's posting on topic and not attacking anybody.

You're throwing spitwads while Danforth is actually posting on topic.

Show some dignity for a change......

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 11:30 AM

"Bill is expressing theory without any evidence. real evidence."

Bill is expressing theory with LOTS of evidence against it, chief being NOT A SINGLE EXAMPLE.

Statistics, human nature, and lack of evidence actually DISPROVES the theory, especially by the 5yr mark.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-19 11:33 AM

This is highly discriminatory to dead Democrats and made up voters that elected Joe Biden in 2020.

#34 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-08-19 11:36 AM

Absentee ballots have chain of custody
Mail in ballots like those in CA don't.
It's pretty simple, but clearly beyond your education level.

Dear Hostile Foreign Agitator,

Thanks for your advice on our democratic processes. We will file it appropriately in the circular file.

FYI - absentee ballots are exactly the same as mail-in ballots. The only difference is the justification.

Absentee ballots are granted for reasons.

Mail-in like those in CA don't require any reasons.

Otherwise they are handled via the post office with bar codes and signature verification exactly the same.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 11:36 AM

Re 34

Not releasing the Epstein Files is highly discriminatory to the victims of Twice Impeached Convicted Felon Trumpy and his pedo butt buddies.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 11:40 AM

Bill Barr's testimony puts the Trump/Epstein connection Democrat lie to bed once and for all.

#37 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-08-19 11:47 AM

Six million fewer democrat voters in 2024. They just disappeared as if they never existed.

#38 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-08-19 11:52 AM

This is a topic everyone should be ignoring completely. No matter what any argument is, the simple fact is that both parties will love this system when it works for them and then fight against it when it isn't. This is one of those topics that shouldn't live in anyone's mind. Once an election happens where a large portion of mail-in voters vote Republican and Dems lose because of it, Dems will do everything they can to eliminate/regulate it.

#39 | Posted by humtake at 2025-08-19 11:56 AM

Show some dignity for a change......
#32 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Like Trumpy does?

Like Shady JD does?

Like the yokels in Congress do?

You mean like everyone in Trumpy's cabinet does?

Like Kristi Norm does?

Like ICE Barbi does?

Like the maga morons who post here do?

Like YOU do?

Seriously Beverly ?

I'd say it's way past time for the "gloves" to come off.

GFY with your hypocritical calls for "dignity".

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:00 PM

Bill Barr's testimony puts the Trump/Epstein connection Democrat lie to bed once and for all.

#37 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Bill Barr lied about the outcome of the Mueller Report in order to protect Trumpy.

Why would now be any different?

Why would a tiger change its stripes?

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:03 PM

The-------------------'s name is all over the Epstein Files.

#42 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-08-19 12:04 PM

I didn't even bother to ask Donner to act with any dignity.

look at his posting.

Clearly it's miles beyond what he's capable of....

just let it be......between his lack of intellect and his lack of morals....what's the point?

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 12:06 PM

There's no legit evidence that mailed ballots or voting machines have ever been tampered with and changed the results of an election in this country, and such attempts have amounted to a tiny fraction of one percent of votes.

Fortunately for Trump, 'evidense' isn't required by his cult.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 12:16 PM

"I didn't even bother to ask Donner to act with any dignity."

Good. I'm not interested in your wishy washy mamby pamby BS right now.

Thanks.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:21 PM

The GOP spent millions supporting mail ballots. Now Trump's attacking them again.
www.politico.com

... Republicans poured tens of millions of dollars last year into convincing their voters that casting ballots by mail was safe after Trump spent years bashing the practice and baselessly insisting it was rife with fraud. And it worked, with GOP voters closing or even reversing the mail voting gap with Democrats in several states.

But now Trump is attacking mail voting again as he ratchets up his push to protect Republicans' House majority in the midterms, scrambling a strategy Republicans effectively used to bank millions of votes in 2024. ...

Republicans made significant strides in 2024 toward closing what had been a Democratic advantage in mail voting four years prior, even as the overall share of voters casting ballots by mail fell 13 percentage points from 2020, when the pandemic changed voting habits.

In North Carolina, Republicans narrowly outpaced Democrats in mail ballots cast in 2024, a reversal from four years prior, when Democrats banked a more than 250,000-voter advantage among mail ballots. (Trump won the state both times.) Republicans similarly returned to their advantage among mail-in votes in Arizona, which has allowed any voter to request a mail ballot since the early 1990s.

And in Pennsylvania, state data shows GOP voters accounted for 32 percent of mail ballots in 2024, when Trump won the state, up from 25 percent in 2020, when he narrowly lost to Joe Biden. ...


#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-19 12:21 PM

-I'm not interested in your wishy washy mamby pamby BS right now.

You forgot to address me as Beverly.....Oh, you're not into the "wishy washy mamby pamby BS" anymore?

You graduated?

LOL.......we all know better. You're perpetually stuck at the bottom of the class.

No doubt you got used to that a long time ago.

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 12:24 PM

Show some dignity for a change......
#32 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Like the dignity this administration is showing to women. Like the dignity being shown to CA residents and citizens of this country?

Like the dignity being shown to our allies?

Seriously. GFY Beverly.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:25 PM

Trump wants to stop all voting.

He's king now.

What's the point of voting?

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-19 12:25 PM

-Seriously. GFY Beverly.

there he is. I was worried you grew up a little.

should have known better.

go join reinshit and legallytard where you belong.......seriously

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 12:27 PM

"You're perpetually stuck at the bottom of the class."

But spoken with such "dignity".

lol

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:30 PM

go join reinshit and legallytard where you belong.......seriously

#50 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Call 1800 whaaa!

I used to think legally rein and truth hurts had gone way overboard.

Now I think differently.

Maga maroons only think with their lizard brains and we have to learn to talk their talk. Speak their language.

And Gavin Newsom is absolutely right. We unfortunately have to fight fire with fire. The gloves have to come off.

And honestly being unbound by the Liberals Conundrum IS indeed liberating.

#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:38 PM

Dan,

Great...we may not have experienced a major problem yet....

However, moving around uncounted ballots is a disaster waiting to happen.

Building in labor intensive checks and balances to accommodate large scale mailed in ballots makes little sense.

You still couldn't be as reliable as in person voting and you could vote early.

Filling out a ballot that is read on the stop is the only voting method that should be used for something as serious as deciding the President of a country as powerful as the United States.

Sorry if you can't accept this.

#53 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 12:38 PM

-I used to think legally rein and truth hurts had gone way overboard.

Liar

you've been licking their cracks forever.

#54 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 12:39 PM

Felcherly can't get enough of HumTrig's shitpipe.

#55 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-08-19 12:41 PM

Hum,

"the simple fact is that both parties will love this system when it works for them"

So far all I read from liberals is made up strawmen.

"Everything was fine...its purely political..."

Recall I was talking about the risks of large scale mailed in ballots a month before the 2020 election.

#56 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 12:52 PM

Hum,
"the simple fact is that both parties will love this system when it works for them"
So far all I read from liberals is made up strawmen.
"Everything was fine...its purely political..."
Recall I was talking about the risks of large scale mailed in ballots a month before the 2020 election.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 12:52 PM | Reply

Do STFU. I mean seriously STFU. You have yet produced sintilla of proof to bolster your hypothesis. You have bupkiss.

#57 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-19 12:58 PM

"the risks of large scale mailed in ballots"

You never quantified that risk.
That's what makes this a fraud.
There's no data to support your claims.
There's decades worth of election data to dismiss your claims.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 01:01 PM

The disappearance of six million Democrat votes in 2024 is prima facie evidence that 2020 was stolen.

#59 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-08-19 01:17 PM

There's no legit evidence that mailed ballots or voting machines have ever been tampered with and changed the results of an election in this country, and such attempts have amounted to a tiny fraction of one percent of votes.
#44 | POSTED BY CORKY

I don't know, Corky.

I've always wanted clarification on Trump thanking Musk for helping him win in Pennsylvania.

- . -

U.S. President Donald Trump said his adviser, tech mogul Elon Musk, "knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania, like, in a landslide."

www.yahoo.com

#60 | Posted by Clownshack at 2025-08-19 01:20 PM

The orange rapist got curb-stomped in 2020.

#61 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-08-19 01:21 PM

- The disappearance of six million Democrat votes in 2024 is prima facie evidence that 2020 was stolen.

#59 | Posted by visitor_

Another day, another LIE.

www.politifact.com

#62 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 01:30 PM

The disappearance of six million Democrat votes in 2024 is prima facie evidence that 2020 was stolen.

#59 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-08-19 01:17 PM | Reply

Why are you always a victim? Why can't trump just have LOST in 2020?

#63 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-19 01:33 PM

Recall I was talking about the risks of large scale mailed in ballots a month before the 2020 election.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-08-19 12:52 PM | Reply

You've provided no evidence of this claim in 5 years.

5 years of getting hammered on this subject by danforth, and everyone else. 5 years of running away.

#64 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-19 01:36 PM

Bill johnson- So your thesis is that Biden stole the 2020 election when trump was in charge of the government?
Then neglected to do so again in 2024 when HIS administration was in power?

That doesn't even pass the smell test.

#65 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-19 01:40 PM

Recall I was talking about the risks of large scale mailed in ballots a month before the 2020 election.
#56 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

So Dear Leader can use mail in ballots but they are suddenly not "safe" for us?

WTF is wrong with you maga maroons? Are you daft?

And did you know that the largest case of election fraud in recent U.S. history took place during the 2018 midterm elections and involved third-party ballot collection. A GOP operative illegally collected and potentially tampered with ballots in a U.S. House race in North Carolina, eventually leading state authorities to overturn the election results.

Where is your constant fauxrage for that?

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 01:47 PM

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