Monday, December 29, 2025

What Is the Minnesota Social Aid Fraud Scandal About?

The federal government is investigating a potential social-services aid fraud scheme in which hundreds of millions of dollars intended for a federally funded nutrition program was allegedly used instead for lavish purchases.

Posted by lamplighter at 07:32 PM | 235 COMMENTS | permalink

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Charges first surfaced in 2022, when U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland called the $250 million fraud scheme "an egregious plot to steal public funds meant to care for children in need."

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... Minnesota fraud: Which groups are involved?

At the center of the allegations is the Feeding Our Future nonprofit.

Founded in 2016, the organization opened more than 200 federal child nutrition program sites across Minnesota and claimed to serve meals to thousands of children each day during the COVID-19 pandemic.

But court documents argue that, rather than feeding children, money was instead pocketed by fraudsters or sent elsewhere, to places including Somalia, Kenya and China.

Charges first surfaced in 2022, when U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland called the $250 million fraud scheme "an egregious plot to steal public funds meant to care for children in need." ...

Where did Minnesota fraud money end up?

Funds raised by Feeding Our Future were spent on island vacations, luxury vehicles, waterfront properties, jewelry and other lavish items, according to court documents.

Federal trial exhibits show accused fraudsters celebrating a honeymoon in the Maldives with champagne and purchasing entire buildings in Kenya.

"They used this money that was supposed to be used for feeding children to buy houses in Minnesota, resort property and real estate in Kenya and Turkey, luxury cars, commercial property, jewelry and much more," former U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger said when announcing the indictments in September 2022. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 12:47 PM

It's a distraction fro Trump's mega-universe of frauds and theft.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-29 12:49 PM

It's about desperately trying to make a story out of nothing.

You'd think Somalis were more of the threat to the fabric of the Univerese than transgenders.

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-29 12:58 PM

www.youtube.com

Watch this for an answer to the question in the heading.

#4 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 01:03 PM

#4 Oh, look: BJ boi is here with his 2 inches cents.

#5 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 01:04 PM

Could you imagine if Harris/Walz had won?

What a disaster that would have been for America.

Trump's win gets framed as some sweeping mandate, but that's nonsense. We're talking about a margin of only a few million votes separating the country from putting that train wreck in the White House.

Think about it. Nearly half of the voters were prepared to elevate Walz to second in line to the presidency.

This election wasn't a triumph.

It was a dodge.

#6 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 01:19 PM

#6 How cute: BJ boi doesn't think we're in an economic disaster now.

#7 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 01:21 PM

Bathhouse Bill voted for 15% unemployment.

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 01:27 PM

@#3 ... It's about desperately trying to make a story out of nothing. ...

I wouldn't go as far as to say, "out of nothing" because there does seem to be something there.

What interests me is the apparent sudden and targeted PR blitz about this fraud investigation.

An investigation that has been ongoing since before 2022, and has already had convictions and sentences issued.


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 01:34 PM

#9 Racism sells.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 01:37 PM

www.qasimrashid.com

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 01:41 PM

What interests me is the apparent sudden and targeted PR blitz about this fraud investigation.

It's all they got with which to smear Tim Walz.

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-29 01:49 PM

@#11

From that link ...

... Right wing provocateur Nick Shirley has published a video claiming he has proof of fraud in Somali daycare centers. I watched the video so you don't have to. The entire video is, in a word, propaganda. Despite this complete lack of substantiation, Vice President JD Vance praised Shirley and suggested he deserves a Pulitzer Prize. MAGA media has since moved immediately to demonize the Somali community in Minnesota as a whole"facts be damned.

That framing is not just reckless"it is intentionally racist. And it obscures the real issue entirely. Here are the critical facts they leave out, and hope Americans don't see. Let's Address This. ....

A Propagandized Claim With Zero Evidence

Shirley begins his interview with a man named "David," who apparently investigated this alleged fraud for years. Shirley provides no explanation of who David is, what qualifications he has, or what actual evidence of fraud he's uncovered. Instead, while waving around documents that he never bothers to validate, David makes the following bombastic and factless claims:

- - - "Compared to worldwide, the fraud is worse here in the Twin Cities than anywhere else ever, in history, anywhere."

- - - "The allegedly stolen funds are being sent to terrorist organizations."

- - - "We have to be careful because these [Somali] people are very violent, they're exceptionally violent."

- - - "Tim Walz is guilty of misconduct with a public employee."

Note"the above are actual quotes from David. At no point in the video does David or Shirley provide any actual evidence for the above claims.


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 01:50 PM

Redial,

"all they got"

Walz's state, while he was Governor, has been funneling tax dollars to what may be fraud in the multi-billions. Who has been getting this money? Who is the US funding?

That's all.

If Walz didn't have knowledge of this, I wonder which makes him look the worst.

He had knowledge and turned a blind eye or he was an incompetent governor.

Take your pick.

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 02:08 PM

Bathhouse Bill, your child-raping idol pissed away $40 billion propping up the psycho from Argentina.

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 02:10 PM

@#14

My guess is that he knew of it because the fraud was being investigated by the DoJ since before 2022.

I doubt if he turned a blind eye to it, as it was a Federal investigation, under the auspices of AG Merrick Garland.

Do you have any evidence that he tried to block that Federal investigation?

Or are your comments like the video you liked to ... apparently full of lots of unsubstantiated pasture pastries?


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 02:16 PM

" or he was an incompetent governor."

You're a moron if you think any governor also serves as the comptroller.

How about blaming the fraudsters?

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 02:25 PM

Rein,

All you've offered here is whataboutism and insults.

You gave me nothing to respond to.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 02:25 PM

Bathhouse Bill, it's a given that you support the decomposing-------------------'s 15% unemployment rate.

#19 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 02:28 PM

Dan,

"You're a moron if you think any governor also serves as the comptroller."

That's a straw man.

Governors don't act as comptrollers. They oversee them.

By your logic, no one could manage healthcare without being a doctor.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 02:31 PM

" You gave me nothing to respond to."

You need to read more carefully.

His point was you're (rightfully) upset at this one-quarter of a billion dollar crime.

Meanwhile, you're silent while Trump blows $40 billion of our tax money so Scott Bessent and his buddies can get their Argentine investments made whole.

160 times the grift.

Enough to respond to?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 02:34 PM

"Governors don't act as comptrollers. They oversee them."

And if the comptroller doesn't do their job properly, do you somehow believe it's the governors responsibility to find out if every single person is telling them the truth or not?

If Walz knew, and did nothing, the blame is on him. But there's ZERO evidence that happened.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 02:37 PM

Rein,

So you are saying you supported the Harris Walz ticket?

It was that or Trump.

Not everyone who voted for Trump likes everything about him. I don't.

But Harris and Walz both came across as over their head.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 02:37 PM

"But Harris and Walz both came across as over their head."

You've said this many times.
You've never told us:
How did Trump come across?

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 02:39 PM

It's no surprise that Bathhouse Bill is a fan of 15% unemployment and----------.

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 02:40 PM

"That's a straw man."

Nonsense. Governor and Comptroller are two different jobs. Just like the Doctor probably isn't doing the billing.

If the biller in the doctor's office is committing embezzlement, is that the doctor's fault?

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 02:40 PM

Trump is over his head. He's a ------- Moron.

So are you if you think he's remotely Competent.

Trump has damaged this country more than any single person in living memory.

Over his head is an understatement.

He has single handedly changed a flawed republic into an Authoritarian Satrapy.

#27 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-29 02:43 PM

If Walz knew, and did nothing, the blame is on him. But there's ZERO evidence that happened.
#22 | Posted by Danforth

Wink wink nudge nudge say no more...

In the US it's easier to steal than be proven guilty. That where the US is, it's one big rent seeking grift, then expect a 10 year investigation only to be thrown out by the judge, or pardoned by the President.

This won't turn out well.

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 02:46 PM

Dan,

"If Walz knew, and did nothing, the blame is on him. But there's ZERO evidence that happened."

Given that Walz is a liberal, I doubt his motto is "the buck stops here" as used by Truman who was an old school Democrat and still believed in personal accountability.

It's in the nature of liberals today to blame their problems on someone else.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 02:47 PM

Trump has damaged this country more than any single person in living memory.
- footposer

Idk I have a feeling the distributed fraud occuring across the nation will be it's undoing.

Blame that on Trump if it makes you feel better, but that's not the reality.

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 02:48 PM

@#29 ... It's in the nature of liberals today to blame their problems on someone else. ...

Pres Trump's modus operandi is to blame others for the problems he has and causes.


#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 02:49 PM

Imagine how much of the US debt is fraud.

Now imagine being a 20yo looking at the federal debt.

The kids are just going to checkout once they see the $1.8trillion in debt servicing they need to pay.

But yeah Billionaires are going to cover it

Lol good luck with that.

#32 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 02:49 PM

Pres Trump's modus operandi is to blame others for the problems he has and causes.

#31 | Posted by LampLighter

Well he was a Democrat, maybe he learned it from them?

#33 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 02:50 PM

RUNT, the------------------- accepts bribes from drug lords.

www.wsj.com

#34 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 02:52 PM

You can run around playing the partisan game and gotchas.

But this is the moment you should take a serious look at how the taxpayers are looking at this. Large amounts of Fraud and grift is being uncovered in every state.

They are questioning the viability of their governments ability to spend their hard earned tax dollars. It's not going to help the citizens.

Bumper sticker slogans, fundraiser emails and tweets, aren't going to get the US out of this. They want some scalps.

#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 02:55 PM

Large amounts of Fraud and grift is being uncovered in every state.

Enough about Trump U, MAGAt.

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 02:58 PM

Danforth,

Walz knows as much as Rick Scott about the fraud going on in their organizations.

You can play you "he knows nothing" game.

Florida was stupid enough to elect a senator that was the CEO of a company that swindled $10billion from the US government.

He claims he had no idea, no one proved he did.

Do you believe him?

Kamala want childcare to go nationwide, you think she had no idea fraud was taking place and how to make it beneficial to Democrat politicians?

Wink wink nudge nudge...

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 03:00 PM

" Large amounts of Fraud and grift is being uncovered in every state."

Define "large" and "every".

Small amounts of fraud can be found in every system, in every state.

Large fraud? Let's see your definition that fits for "every" state.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 03:03 PM

MN resident here. This is the same story that has been reported on for weeks. I presented a timeline of events. Suspected fraud was reported in 2021. The state stopped paying some of the entities making claims. A judge (appointed by former (R) Governor Tim Pawlenty) ruled there wasn't enough evidence of fraud yet and to resume payments. The FBI was brought in late 2021 and people were arrested and charges were filed in early 2022.

The organizer of this fraud scheme was Aimee Bock (a white woman) who recruited the Somalians to participate. Aimee Bock (the white woman) was one of the first to be tried (and convicted) in March of this year. Did I mention she is white? I just want to make sure everyone gets the story straight, the organizer of this fraud scheme was a white woman named Aimee Bock, as this is the 4th time I have corrected this story on this site.

So please free free to copy and paste the above when the next foolish person starts yet another post of this event.

#39 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 03:04 PM

" Walz knows as much as Rick Scott about the fraud going on in their organizations."

You're literally conflating a governor with a CFO. The fraud victim, with the fraud architect.

Are you trying to look stupid?

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 03:06 PM

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#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 03:08 PM

#37 Aimee Bock, the white woman who organized this fraud scheme, was not an employee of the state of MN, so how would Gov Walz know what she was up to? She had a charitable organization that she used to commit the fraud. She originally had a partner, but they split. The old partner was the person who originally reported the suspected fraud. Geez, you really need to work on your critical thinking skills, or at least learn how to use Google.

BTW, All the info in the above paragraph was in the timeline I posted when this story first landed here, which is available on line if you use "MN fraud timeline" in your search engine.

NOW YOU KNOW

#42 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 03:21 PM

Chan,

Seeing this unfold firsthand, could you share more info?

I have yet to read who ultimately was the recipient(s) of these billions.

Sure, billions are squandered by the government but this is actual fraud.

Where did it go?

Will the truth ever come out?

#43 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 03:41 PM

In this comment December 3, 2025 , drudge.com

you posted this link ...

Timeline: How feeding underprivileged children turned into a sweeping federal investigation.
sahanjournal.com



#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 03:42 PM

#44 Yes, that is the timeline post I was referring to. I was going off memory on the dates in my comment (#39), seems I was off by about a year. I just remember the investigation has been going on for a long time.

So I ask of Oneironaut, BillJohnson and any other R poster looking to score points against MN Gov Walz to clink on the link in Lamplighter's post #44 and educate yourself so you don't look so foolish in the future. I know it is a lot to ask, as you folks must really enjoy that "Poorly Educated" moniker that Trump has attached to you.

PS If Gov Walz was involved in this scheme in any way, I am sure the FBI would have uncovered it and he would have been charged accordingly.

#45 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 04:44 PM

#43 Well Bill, I suggest you go to the timeline link that Lamplighter has so generously re-posted for me in his #44 post so that you can learn about what happened here. Are you brave enough to do that and acknowledge the truth here?

#46 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 05:13 PM

"So I ask of Oneironaut, BillJohnson and any other R poster looking to score points..."

You completely misunderestimate these morons.

#47 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-12-29 06:23 PM

@#44 ... Yes, that is the timeline post I was referring to. ...

thx for referring to it again.

I missed it the first time around here.

thx.

#48 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 06:54 PM

The Donnerboy rule:

I need two (2) independent sources** from any Trump sycophant for any 'proof' they offer before it is even considered, much less replied to.
**Any source that contains "Trump's FBI said...", or "The DOJ announced..." or "The White House proclaimed..." - or any iteration thereof - will immediately be considered not an independent source. - Try again.

#49 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 06:56 PM

Lamplighter, that timeline post was from 2022. So much more has happened in this case. I think the numbers of indicted individuals in now over 90. It started in 2020 in the middle of the pandemic. It has been reported on endlessly here in MN. I get frustrated by people reporting on this like it is new.

#50 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 07:07 PM

@#50 ... I get frustrated by people reporting on this like it is new. ...

Welcome to drudge.com. :)

More seriously, though, the regional-to-Minnesota issue has taken a higher prominence (i.e., national-level, as opposed to state-level news) because Pres Trump seems to want to endeavor to exploit his imagined racial view of Somalians in Minnesota.

Remember when candidate Vance said that immigrants were eating pets in Springfield, Ohio?


I mean, really, this is the depth that the Trump admin has sunk to.

But, stay tuned, strap on your seat belt, it is quite likely to go even lower ...



#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 07:24 PM

#51 There are not enough Newsworthy flags for this excellent comment, LampLighter. (the link was where we spent the weekend before a wonderful Christmas* with family)

Thank you... and Happy New Year.

* - As a liberal, I am a brave person for saying "Merry Christmas"

Right, Perry "bell boi" Mason ? ? ? ?

#52 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 07:32 PM

#51 More seriously, though, the regional-to-Minnesota issue has taken a higher prominence

Yeah, I know. Get ready for the new story to hit national news. Some right wing You Tuber has posted a video about daycare fraud in MN (committed by Somalis, of course.) Trouble is that daycare fraud has also been reported on for years by MPR. He posted a video of going to these daycare facilities and showing there are no kids, but no time stamp on the video. He likely went outside their hours of operation, and several of them closed 2 years ago.

But he got the attention of Vance and Kash Patel, so coming soon to the nation.

#53 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 07:56 PM

Chan,

Ok..I looked at it.

Not so sure what bravery had to do with it.

I asked about it.

Thanks for the insight.

#54 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 08:15 PM

"What Is the Minnesota Social Aid Fraud Scandal About?"

It's about Republicans ginning up the base with racism.
It's the Southern Strategy, just being applied in Minnesota.

This crime happened years ago and is already being punished:
"The owner right now is currently in jail, federal jail."
www.newsnationnow.com

Here is the IRS Press Release from Jan 28 of this year:
Former Minneapolis mayoral aide and Safari Restaurant co-owner both plead guilty in $250 million feeding our future fraud scheme
www.irs.gov

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:22 PM

This is a Psy-Op.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:22 PM

#54 Not so sure what bravery had to do with it.

Well Bill, you still cannot/will not, are not brave enough to admit that wide spread fraud does not occur with mail in voting. People have pointed out facts to you and posted links that are contrary to your beliefs, yet still you persist with the fraud accusations, facts be damned.

#57 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 08:27 PM

@#54 ... Not so sure what bravery had to do with it. ...

Where is the prior citation of bravery as it applies in your alias' comment?

You alias' comment is the only mention I see of that word on this thread.

(but after I post this, there will be another citation ....) :)

So, apparently your alias sees to be making up things yet again?




#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 08:30 PM

#57 Of course BJ boi is not brave enough.

He/she/it isn't brave at all.

To wit: he/she/it publicly announced that he/she/it "blocked" me.

Cowardice, through and through.

#59 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 08:33 PM

Chan,

Walz has been governor since 2019.

All of this occurred after he was elected.

It's still a legitimate news story for people who missed it the first time.

What's different now is the framing.

It's being discussed as a pattern and a failure of oversight from the governor on down, rather than a series of isolated incidents.

That makes it political whether people like it or not.

#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 08:35 PM

#60 Of course BJ boi is not brave enough.

He/she/it isn't brave at all.

To wit: he/she/it publicly announced that he/she/it "blocked" me.

Cowardice, through and through.

#61 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 08:35 PM

@#54 ... Thanks for the insight. ...

I remain to be convinced that your current alias even knows the meaning of "insight."

Stated differently, your current alias posted a video in #4 from right wing provocateur Nick Shirley, saying, "Watch this for an answer to the question in the heading."

As shown in comments #11 and #13, that video seems to be baseless (I'm being kind here).


So, what's your current alias' current view of the #4 video it posted?


Has that opinion changed because of the insight it seems to be thankful for?

#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 08:40 PM

"It's still a legitimate news story for people who missed it the first time."

You lied to Uncle Sam, and you think it makes you a victim. But all it makes you is a liar.

It's still a legitimate insight into who you are as a man, for people who missed it the first time.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:41 PM

"It's being discussed as a pattern and a failure of oversight from the governor on down, rather than a series of isolated incidents."

Hahahaha!

Critical Theory has entered the chat, and you don't even realize you invited the vampire into your house, BillJohnson.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:42 PM

#60 Do tell us, BJ boi:

Did the Trump grab you by your "unmentionables", and now you're flummoxed?

Jump, BJ boi... Jump.

#65 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 08:42 PM

Chan,

"admit that wide spread fraud does not occur with mail in voting"

Sounds like you don't really read my posts and just listen to the numbskulls who post here.

"Fraud" has never been my primary motivation for questioning the usage of mail-in ballots for a presidential election.

I am sure it goes on but it still isn't my main concern about risk associated with voting. Especially when there are other incredibly simple methods of holding an election that is fair.

Try reading my posts.

#66 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 08:44 PM

Snoofy wont suck a #ick but he'll hold one in his mouth until a gay gets there.

#67 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:45 PM

@#66 ... Sounds like you don't really read my posts and just listen to the numbskulls who post here. ...

Am I the only person who seems a possible contradiction in that comment?



#68 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 08:46 PM

This is a Psy-Op.
#56 | Posted by snoofy

It's still a legitimate news story for people who missed it the first time.
What's different now is the framing.
It's being discussed as a pattern and a failure of oversight from the governor on down, rather than a series of isolated incidents.
That makes it political whether people like it or not.
#60 | Posted by BillJohnson

Wow.!
I could not have asked for a better explanation had written:
"BillJohnson, explain how this "news" story is a carefully planned Psychological Operation, a Propaganda Event, intended solely to sway public opinion."

You're an interesting one, BillJohnson.
You can perfectly describe how the propaganda is working, but you can't call it propaganda.

You have the kind of brain it would be interesting to study.
You ever take LSD? I would imagine you would have a "bad trip" since you wouldn't be able to hide from all the truths you hide from on a daily basis.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:46 PM

Luvsorangeturds was never happier than when he sucked his sister's blood from his old man's wang.

#70 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 08:47 PM

Luvsorangeturds was never happier than when he sucked his sister's blood from his old man's wang.

#70 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds like your daddy had a big tool

#71 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:48 PM

Snoofy wont suck a #ick but he'll hold one in his mouth until a gay gets there.
#67 | Posted by lfthndthrds

And look who just arrived in the thread!

Hey LftHndThrds,
Every accusation from you is a confession.

I've never seen a grown man
struggle so hard
to walk though an open door.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:48 PM

#60 So the suspected fraud was reported to the FBI in May of 2021. Do you think the Governor should have inserted himself and maintained oversight into an FBI investigation? Yeah, that is not how it works.

#73 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 08:49 PM

#70 | Newsworthy or Funny?

Funny or Newsworthy?

The Retort Conundrum continues unabated.

#74 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 08:49 PM

I've never seen a grown man
struggle so hard
to walk though an open door.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Unless you had an open mouth... And ad an anonymous room at the bath house.

#75 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:50 PM

Snoofy is an invitation for you losers to hook up in a bath house.

#76 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:51 PM

he's one condom from joining Magic Johnson.

#77 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:52 PM

" Especially when there are other incredibly simple methods of holding an election that is fair."

You mean "fair" for people like you, and difficult for "certain others" who you wish wouldn't vote.

That's what upset you most about the 2020 election. More people voted, but they didn't vote the way you wanted them to.

There are folks who believe in-person voting is the safest. If it is, it's also the easiest to manipulate: construction, altered bus lines, speed traps, long lines, too few precincts. More votes get suppressed in this manner, than all the voter fraud you'll ever experience.

People should be allowed to participate in the voting process the way they deem best for themselves.

Their decision, not yours.

#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 08:53 PM

Luvsorangeturds is cranky because his burly sister hasn't wrung the pus from his pink sock yet this week.

#79 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-29 08:54 PM

Left Hind Turds seems to resent comparisons to his familiar *ahem* ...

... short"comings"

Happy New Year!

#80 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 08:56 PM

@#75

Looks like the troll farm has called in the second-string ....


#81 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 08:56 PM

""Fraud" has never been my primary motivation for questioning the usage of mail-in ballots for a presidential election."
#66 | Posted by BillJohnson

Then what is your motivation?
I don't think you even know.

Wouldn't it be great to prove me wrong, you little ----------?

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 08:59 PM

Unless you had an open mouth... And ad an anonymous room at the bath house.
#75 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I don't need my sex to be anonymous.
Unlike you, I'm not out here claiming to be straight, while having sex with men.
I'm not part of your lifestyle, where keeping it anonymous keeps it safe for me and all the other straight men having sex with other straight men.
Though, since you do the anonymous thing, I guess some part of you is always going to be wondering if it really is me...

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:02 PM

Unless you had an open mouth... And ad an anonymous room at the bath house.

#75 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

Snoofy is an invitation for you losers to hook up in a bath house.

#76 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

he's one condom from joining Magic Johnson.

#77 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 08:52 PM


Oh, do tell us, Left Hind Turds ...

Is there something you'd like to share with the class ... ? . ? . ? . ?

#84 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:05 PM

Chan,

"Do you think the governor should have inserted himself and maintained oversight into an FBI investigation?"

No.

The existence of such large scale fraud in his state points to a failure of oversight. That is what leads to FBI investigations.

With Trump in office, I suspect we're going to hear more about it, than we did under Biden.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:05 PM

Is there something you'd like to share with the class ... ? . ? . ? . ?

#84 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, I'd put money on you not being able to make an audible noise when you fart.

#86 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 09:06 PM

#86 Thanks for the opportunity to post this again:

Left Hind Turds seems to resent comparisons to his familiar *ahem* ...

... short"comings"

Happy New Year!

#87 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:08 PM

"Fraud" has never been my primary motivation for questioning the usage of mail-in ballots for a presidential election."

Folks stealing ballots from house mates has been your primary motivation. Trouble with that, is tens of thousands of people would've had to have their ballots taken. After a close election, especially one so emotional, anyone who had their ballot taken, especially if they believed someone else in their household had taken it and voted in a way they didn't want, would've come forward.. We would've had dozens, if not hundreds of folks coming out of the woodwork, claiming your theory.

The fact it's been five years, and not a single person has come forward with that tale, proves it didn't happen, and definitely not at scale.

#88 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 09:10 PM

Happy New Year, loser.

#89 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 09:11 PM

Sorry folks, I'm trying to catch up on the comments here, but evidently BJ posted in #4 the video I mentioned about the You Tuber. Too funny. Bill, there may be a kernal of truth in that video, but definitely a lot of fearmongering. The story was on the local news tonight when I mentioned it coming soon to national news. No time stamp on when he visited those places. Were they in the hours of operations, who knows? Bill do you know?

#90 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 09:12 PM

Dan,

"You mean "fair" for people like you, and difficult for "certain others" who you wish wouldn't vote."

Early in-person voting where your ballot is read by a scanner right then and there is fair and more efficient.

Early voting gives anyone who actually wants to vote time to get to the polls.

Or stay home. No one says you have to vote.

But you do need to put out just a little bit of effort so that we have fair, accurate, lower risk elections.

#91 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:13 PM

@#85 ... With Trump in office, I suspect we're going to hear more about it, ...

I agree.

Pres Trump seems to want to exploit the racial aspect of the problem, ignoring the root cause of the problem.

So, what else yer current alias got?

#92 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 09:14 PM

Chan,

"Were they in the hours of operations, who knows? Bill do you know?"

People were answering the door and not once did anyone say, "we're closed".

It looked pretty well the middle of the day to me.

Plus the man who had watching the places for years said he never sees children.

How about this? Maybe it was all an AI video? Tell yourself that. That would be more believable than they're actually closed.

It was AI...

#93 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:18 PM

Early in-person voting where your ballot is read by a scanner right then and there is fair and more efficient.
#91 | Posted by BillJohnson

Not a chance.
Voting by mail is a million times more efficient.

Imagine millions of people mailing a letter.
Imagine millions of people driving to the church or the school or wherever they vote.

Which costs more, in time and money and fuel costs?
Which requires getting dressed leaving the house vs you can do it sitting on the couch in your pajamas?

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:19 PM

"Early voting gives anyone who actually wants to vote time to get to the polls."

And the disabled?

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:20 PM

"Early voting gives anyone who actually wants to vote time to get to the polls."

How about people who are working two jobs and also have to raise the kids?

#96 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:20 PM

#89 You, too, my dear friend, Left Hind Turds.

Happy New Year.

And may all your New Years wishes ... come true.

#97 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:21 PM

The existence of such large scale fraud in his state points to a failure of oversight. That is what leads to FBI investigations.
#85 | Posted by BillJohnson

The FBI already investigated it.
The fraudsters already plead guilty in January.
They're in jail, right now.

With Trump in office, I suspect we're going to hear more about it
#85 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yes, but not because it's news. It's because they know you think it makes Trump look smart and Democrats look weak.
You're this close to understanding that.
But you refuse.

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:23 PM

BJ, sure Bill, whatever it takes for you to believe. I'll believe an actual news organization as a source above a You Tuber.

#99 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 09:23 PM

Lamp,

"Pres Trump seems to want to exploit the racial aspect of the problem".

I don't think Trump is trying to exploit race here.

He's targeting Walz himself. His incompetence, his oversight failures, and his record as governor.

He's after liberals, not race.

#100 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:23 PM

I don't know enough about this story to comment intelligently. I do know that Trump is the all-time leader in political scandals and nothing the Democrats could ever do could possibly compete. So excuse me if I don't get too worked up.

#101 | Posted by cbob at 2025-12-29 09:25 PM

I wouldn't stop mail in voting because I agree the lack of fraud is a good enough reason to keep it going.

But ... ... the day I'm too unmotivated to get off my butt to go vote is a day I might believe I'm not deserving of the right.

Not if I'm sick or disabled, etc. but just too ------ lazy.

#102 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-29 09:27 PM

Snoofy,

"How about people who are working two jobs and also have to raise the kids?"

When I was teaching at college, I had students who were paid for by their parents, didn't work and got bad grades.

And I had students who worked jobs, had kids, some where women who had to take care of a home and a husband and got good grades.

It's all a matter of motivation.

If you want to vote, you'll figure it out without making excuses.

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:27 PM

www.youtube.com
Watch this for an answer to the question in the heading.
#4 | Posted by BillJohnson

The guy whose video from six months ago is called
"Los Angeles Has Fallen ... Anti-ICE Protesters Takeover the City"
And you think this is like insightful, unbiased investigative journalism!
Wow. You really do enjoy that Kool-Aid.

I'll tell you what, BillJohnson, and this goes for all you Deplorables.
It's a shame the thing that finally made you feel like a human being, is being awful to other human beings.

#104 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:27 PM

#108 Not trying to exploit race here? Have any of the posters here heard about Aimee Bock, the mastermind of the fraud, you know, the white woman? Have any of you heard of her before I posted about her here?

#105 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 09:30 PM

@#100 ... He's targeting Walz himself. ...

I agree with that assessment. Pres Trump seems to be targeting Gov Walz.

So, why then, disparage the Somali community as Pres trump has been doing?

But my concern and question has been, not the target, but the means.

How is Pres Trump targeting Gov Walz?

Via unsubstantiated racial degradation of the Minnesota Somali community.


#106 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 09:30 PM

#86 Reminds me of this...

Are you the kind of person who, when entering a crowded elevator, waits until the doors close and the lets loose a silent but deadly one...

...and then says, out loud, "Is that popcorn I smell," guaranteeing that everyone in the elevator takes a deep sniff?

If so, you're my kind of people. :-)

#107 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:30 PM

103 not 108

#108 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 09:30 PM

"It's all a matter of motivation."

You sound like an overprivileged white Republican.

Motivation can't get you to the polls. You need time off of work to get to the polls.

Holler back if you think Voting Day should be a Federal Holiday.

Holler back if you are man enough to explain why Democrats think Election Day should be a Federal Holiday and Republicans think people should have to work on Election Day.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:31 PM

So, why then, disparage the Somali community as Pres trump has been doing?
- gaslighter

Name a state where there are Somalis that isn't in the midst of Somali fraud?

#110 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 09:33 PM

Snoofy,

Here's the truth.

People who live off the government and aren't doing something with their lives after awhile feel worthless and some are angry that society tells them they are worthless.

No...they feel worthless because of how they live and not how they are treated by society.

People with jobs or worthwhile activities know the truth. Those activities are what give them a feeling of accomplishment and personal self value. They don't need other people to praise them.

People are awful to themselves and blame their lack of self worth on others.

#111 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:34 PM

Holler back if you are man enough to explain why Democrats think Election Day should be a Federal Holiday and Republicans think people should have to work on Election Day.
#109 | Posted by snoofy

What a -------- request.

Who cares, the Treasury is being raided, and you want a holiday.

Lol moron

#112 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-29 09:34 PM

#110 Name a state where there are Americans that aren't in the midst of some kind of American fraud?

#113 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:36 PM

Happy New Year, loser.

#114 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-29 09:36 PM

#111 BJ boi remains oblivious to reality.

#115 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:37 PM

#114 Name a state where there are Americans that aren't in the midst of some kind of American fraud?

Your turn.

#116 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 09:38 PM

But ... ... the day I'm too unmotivated to get off my butt to go vote is a day I might believe I'm not deserving of the right.
Not if I'm sick or disabled, etc. but just too ------ lazy.
#102 | Posted by eberly

OK Boomer.

Imagine your time being so worthless and your home life so unrewarding that you'll leave the house to go stand in line at some random elementary school for a half hour to fill out a form. Because filling out a form and mailing it in from the ease and comfort of the dining room table is for "lazy people."

Eberly, you don't have to imagine, you're already living the dream.
Enjoy that Ovaltine before bedtime, you've earned it.

#117 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:39 PM

"People who live off the government and aren't doing something with their lives after awhile feel worthless and some are angry that society tells them they are worthless."

Yeah no ----.
I understand where MAGA comes from.

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:40 PM

Snoofy,

"You sound like an overprivileged white Republican."

At the age of 19 I was nearly living on the street no parents to fall back on after being booted from the Navy.

I took advantage of opportunities and made something of my life.

It must have been my "white privilege".

I should have said that at interviews...."I'm white so I'm here for my job".

They would have laughed.

#119 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:42 PM

"People with jobs or worthwhile activities know the truth"

Some of them. Not all jobs are worthwhile activities. A lot of them are ----.

"People with jobs or worthwhile activities know the truth. Those activities are what give them a feeling of accomplishment and personal self value. They don't need other people to praise them."

What they do need, -------, is time off from work to go vote.

You're such a nothing of a person you don't understand not everybody just gets time off work when they want it.

But even if you did understand it, you're enough of an ------- that you'd say, ---- 'em, they don't get to vote if they can't arrange for time off of work to get to the polls.

That sounds okay to you.

And the reason it sounds okay to you is because you're a mild-mannered little fascist ---- who would send people to camps if you had the power, just as you're pretty much okay with the people Trump is sending to camps for writing bad checks.

#120 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:43 PM

Still, will anybody address the fact that the mastermind of this fraud was a white woman? Come on, give Aimee Bock her due.

#121 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 09:44 PM

"At the age of 19 I was nearly living on the street no parents to fall back on after being booted from the Navy."

"nearly"

Why did your parents hate you so much?
Sounds like you made some really bad choices.
It doesn't make you a victim.

Some people learn from their mistakes.
What have you learned from yours?

#122 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:45 PM

Snoofy,

How convenient you left off the next line.

#123 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:48 PM

"I took advantage of opportunities and made something of my life."

Until Trump.
Anyone who jumped ship to join the Trump Train Is not having a better life now than they did ten years ago.
You are a bigger victim now, than you were ten years ago, in your own mind.

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:48 PM

@#105 ... Not trying to exploit race here? Have any of the posters here heard about Aimee Bock, the mastermind of the fraud, you know, the white woman? Have any of you heard of her before I posted about her here? ...

A great point.

And, no, I will say, I had not seen that name before you posted it.

I will also admit that I had not known about that aspect of this situation before you posted it on this thread.

Thank-you for that.

Your comment convinced me that my opinion that Pres trump is just trying to exploit race in this issue was likely correct.

I had not known the details you have posted, but I came to a similar conclusion based upon other aspects.

I learned things from your posts.



#125 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 09:50 PM

Snoofy,

"Some people learn from their mistakes.
What have you learned from yours?"

Some people who post are crazy as a loon and not worth the time.

#126 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:52 PM

What's this I see?
Looks like it's time to reset the Closeted Gay Safe Space Safety Calendar!

It has been
0 Days
Since LftHndThrds talked about men's anuses.

#127 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:53 PM

@#126 ... Some people who post are crazy as a loon and not worth the time. ...

Why might your current alias think they are "crazy as a loon?"

Why?

Serious question.

#128 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 09:55 PM

" I should have said that at interviews...."I'm white so I'm here for my job"."

What would the reaction have been if you were black?

Would they have even seen you?

#129 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 09:55 PM

Lamp,

Trump isn't going to exploit race.

He's after liberals and bringing them down.

Playing the race card is stupid.

Democrats play the race card and it's not doing them very well these days.

#130 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 09:56 PM

Dan,

"What would the reaction have been if you were black?"

Yea...it's hard on blacks...I'm well aware.

Once I was interviewing for a job and the waiting room there was a woman sitting in there.

We got to talking and we were both scheduled to interview for the same job.

They didn't know we had already talked.

A woman came to the room and called my name and at the same time told the woman Mr..such and such still isn't here. I'm sorry. So I guess she left and I went back to be interviewed.

Well..one look at me and not a "good ole boy", my interview was quick.

I know blacks have it hard. Well...if you come across as gay or a little effeminate, that isn't great either in some companies.

#131 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 10:01 PM

@#130 ... Trump isn't going to exploit race. ...

Really?

... He's after liberals and bringing them down. ...

I agree. And one of Pres Trump's main strengths among his supporters seems to be to race.

Has your current alias even seen what he has said about the Somali folk in Minnesota?


... Playing the race card is stupid. ...

So why does Pres Trump seem to have done it for so many years?




#132 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 10:02 PM

#125 Thanks for the acknowledgement.

#133 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 10:02 PM

@#131 ... I know blacks have it hard. Well...if you come across as gay or a little effeminate, that isn't great either in some companies. ...

So, your current alias admits there is discrimination present.

But that discrimination seems to be OK?

#134 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 10:04 PM

Lamp,

You can never really be sure who the crazy ones are.

I'd say far left and far right....both are unstable in my book.

#135 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 10:07 PM

#136 So says the impotent c*ck (and incel) who has me blocked.

#136 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 10:10 PM

Lamp,

"So, your current alias admits there is discrimination present.
But that discrimination seems to be OK?"

Those 2 lines qualify you for the "might be a loon" group.

How do you derive "discrimination is ok" from what I wrote?

#137 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 10:13 PM

#130 Bill Johnson re Democrats play the race card. I suggest you read the timeline posted on this thread. Look for the name Aimee Bock. Here's a frickin' clue since you haven't acknowledged it yet in this thread. Aimee Bock was the mastermind of this fraud scheme. She is NOT Somali, she is a WHITE woman. So who is playing a race card? Trump and his acolytes are totally ignoring the fact that the mastermind of this fraud is a white woman.

Were the Somalis she recruited guilty of fraud, yes. However, the mastermind of this fraud was a white woman. Deal with it!

#138 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 10:13 PM

It's late...time for other activities.

#139 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 10:14 PM

Welp, time for Bill to run away from the truth, yet again.

#140 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 10:16 PM

Chan,

"However, the mastermind of this fraud was a white woman. Deal with it!"

I'm not playing the race card...I have nothing to deal with.

Personally, I want to see Walz implicated....hell...let's add Biden and Harris while we're at it.

I don't care about race. You're barking up the wrong tree with me.

#141 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 10:19 PM

But (butt?) since it is the New Year, let me be the first to wish BJ boi and his dear beard wife a very Happy New Year!

(Will someone please let BJ boi know that I send him/her/it my best wishes ? ? ? ?. Thank you.)

#142 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 10:19 PM

" If you want to vote, you'll figure it out without making excuses."

Name one good reason why every legal voter shouldn't be able to cast their vote the way most convenient for them?

Who, exactly, are you, to tell others how to exercise their civic duties?

#143 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 10:25 PM

@#135 ... You can never really be sure who the crazy ones are. ...

Be sure? No.

Have a strong suspicion? Yes.

For example, look back at #4 on this thread ...

That post says ...

... Watch this for an answer to the question in the heading. ...

Yet that posted video seems to be quite absurd. (I'm being kind. See #11 and #13 for more details).

So, I ask your current alias, is #4 posted by one of the "crazy ones" it seems to despise?

#144 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 10:27 PM

Too bad for you that Walz was not involved in the fraud, nor were Biden or Harris. As my dad used to say, "Wish in one hand and poop in the other. See which one fills up first.

#145 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 10:28 PM

Dan,

"Name one good reason why every legal voter shouldn't be able to cast their vote in whatever way is most convenient for them?"

Because convenience is not unlimited. At some point, the risk to election integrity outweighs the marginal benefit of added convenience.

There is also a practical reality. Beyond a certain threshold, the number of voters who truly cannot vote in person is relatively small.

Those voters might already qualify for absentee mail-in ballots. Again, these absentee ballots would likely not be a large enough group to impact the election results negatively.

"Inconvenience" alone is not a sufficient justification for universally expanding voting methods indefinitely.

#146 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 10:52 PM

#146 Dedicated to BJ boi ..

Get the --- out of here...

#147 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-29 10:54 PM

OMFG Are we still talking about mail in ballots??? That's it someone shoot me and put me out of my misery. I'll even buy the gun and the bullets to. Jesus Christ.

#148 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-12-29 11:01 PM

@#146 ... Because convenience is not unlimited. At some point, the risk to election integrity outweighs the marginal benefit of added convenience. ...

Still on that off-thread unsubstantiated mail-in ballot fraud kick?

Yet, ignoring the on-thread question posed in #144.


Why?

#149 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 11:04 PM

Still on that off-thread unsubstantiated mail-in ballot fraud kick?
Yet, ignoring the on-thread question posed in #144.

Why?
Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 11:04 PM | Reply

Yes we are sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It's just like a reoccurring butt boil, Annoying as all get out.

#150 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-12-29 11:07 PM

" Yea...it's hard on blacks...I'm well aware."

So, not as hard as for folks like you. There's your white privilege.

" Well...if you come across as gay or a little effeminate, that isn't great either in some companies."

Except you were already trained to hide it. You certainly did when you joined the Navy.

Also, it's easy to tell, from a sizable distance, skin color. Not so much sexual preference.

#151 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 11:20 PM

@#150 ... It's just like a reoccurring butt boil, ...

That one's an image that is going to linger.

:(

#152 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-29 11:25 PM

Laura,

Read the thread...it's almost always someone else brings up ballots.

Far be it from me to waste a good opportunity.

#153 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-29 11:31 PM

This is abusive fraud that, by some reporting, is in the billions.

Can we ALL agree that this level of fraud is objectively bad?

Yes, of course we start with the fraudsters. We also have to look very closely at how they were enabled to commit this degree of fraud/theft. This is the part where DR lefties and lefties in general circle the wagons and deflect, gaslight and lie.

#154 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-29 11:52 PM

@#154 ... This is abusive fraud ...

I agree. he facts point to abusive fraud.

... by some reporting, is in the billions. ...

Got links of that "some reporting?"

Or has a new shift of the troll farm just checked in?


#155 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-30 12:10 AM

You don't understand! These Somalis are helpless and unable to take care of themselves thus requiring a multi-billion dollar fraud scheme to support them all!

their fraud is actually good!

#156 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-12-30 01:47 AM

@#156 ... You don't understand! These Somalis are helpless and unable to take care of themselves ...

Got any evidence to back up that assertion?

Or have I missed an inherent sarcasm in the post?


#157 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-30 01:53 AM

"We also have to look very closely at how they were enabled to commit this degree of fraud/theft."

How they were enabled? Covid. People needed a lot more help, and the fraudsters found co-conspirators, like restaurants, that would help them file the false claims.

Then they filled out all the paperwork correctly. In a giant work setting, that goes a long way. As far as follow up, if there are thousands of applications, and three people to investigate fraud, that's going to take a while.

Call me crazy, but I blame the fraudsters.

#158 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-30 02:49 AM

@#158 (wow, 158) ... I blame the fraudsters. ...

Agreed.

But, in this case, blaming the fraudsters does not seem to have the appropriate white Christian nationalism ~call to duty~ to it.

In this case, it's looks much better, or easier, to accuse the non-white victims of the fraud apparently perpetrated by white people.

Blame the victims.



#159 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-30 03:20 AM

"The white man did it to them again" excuse is always so convenient.

#160 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 09:38 AM

It has been
0 Days
Since LftHndThrds talked about men's anuses.

#127 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-29 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag

How many days since you called someone a ------?

I notice it's only been two days since JPW accused someone of blowing their dog.

#161 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 11:00 AM

" #158 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-12-30 02:49 AM | FLAG: | "

So, ZERO accountability for those administering and overseeing the funds?

#162 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-30 11:03 AM

Here is a followup to my post #4.

Watch the video I posted a link in #4 before reading this next link.

www.mediaite.com

Walz is in trouble.

#163 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-30 01:04 PM

Right wing loser *ahem* influencer peddled, oversold BS trying to make themselves the next hottest grifter to fleece the MAGA rubes?

#164 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-30 01:05 PM

I notice it's only been two days since JPW accused someone of blowing their dog.

#161 | Posted by lfthndthrds

It's creepy that you look for that kind of thing you sick f*&^.

#165 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-30 01:05 PM

" You gave me nothing to respond to."
You need to read more carefully.
His point was you're (rightfully) upset at this one-quarter of a billion dollar crime.
Meanwhile, you're silent while Trump blows $40 billion of our tax money so Scott Bessent and his buddies can get their Argentine investments made whole.
160 times the grift.
Enough to respond to?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-29 02:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"one quarter of a billion dollar crime"?

Actually up to over 9 billion. Try and pay attention.

#166 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-12-30 01:18 PM

Putin's butt ---- threw away $40 billion on Argentina.

#167 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-30 01:20 PM

#167 $20 Billion, the rest is from private funds. And this is an investment that will be paid back. Clinton did the same and we made a good amount of money. " This wasn't the first time that the United States has directly intervened in a Latin American economy. In 1995 Pres. Bill Clinton responded to the sharp devaluation of the Mexican peso (an event informally known as the "Tequila Crisis") with a loan that helped stabilize the currency and halt capital flight. Clinton's intervention, which was backed with additional funds pledged by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank for International Settlements, and the Bank of Canada, was an immediate success. Mexico's economy quickly turned around and went on to experience sustained growth. The government of Ernesto Zedillo repaid the $12.5 billion borrowed from the United States"with interest"three years early, and the United States ultimately made $580 million on the deal.

Here are a few factors driving the bailout talks:

#168 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-12-30 01:23 PM

40 billion, Trig.

#169 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-30 01:24 PM

Can we ALL agree that this level of fraud is objectively bad?
#154 | Posted by BellRinger

I dunno.
Can we all agree the fraudsters are in prison?

"Yes, of course we start with the fraudsters. We also have to look very closely at how they were enabled to commit this degree of fraud/theft."

I dunno.
Are you saying that hasn't happened?
If so, I'm saying you're a liar.

#170 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-30 01:51 PM

well that scan took a few minutes but it's strangely comforting that I knew what every reply would

contain.....deflection from eco-news....you're a racist....and you want to ignore it LIKE the dem

rump rubbing media are doing mostly.....and you know the rest because you

effing morons wrote it.

HEADLINE IS WRONG we know now......NINE BILLION>.....not just 100's of millions...

you defend the criminals and attack the whistle blower......in this case.....this guy NICK messed

up.....he should have said some of it could be traced to TRUMP instead of MORE THAN ONE CONVICTED

PERP IS TIED TO OHMAR.....and you whackerfied toadstool nitwitted suckers would be demanding

a complete investigation....

#171 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 02:43 PM

FYI !!!

racist...islamaphobe....fascist....all the other "ist" and "phobe" does not work anymore.

whether here in your left wing coven of dupes and dopes are on cnn panels or any other

nationwide gathering of freaks, fruits, fanatics and serial liars / lying mother lovers.

but you keep puking out.....I know it's all you know.....

AND governor closet tampon timmy..jazz hands freak is implicated......as soon as he said the other

day....these charges stem from.." white supremacy" to when he said he's been "fighting this corruption

for years".....and all NICK did was walk up to a building with a sign that said.....and I quote.

LEARING CENTER"....yes they misspelled learning.....AND FOUND IT IN AN HOUR ONE AFTERNOON

----and dems da facts ma'am......and nothing you puke out from morning joe will alter that.

#172 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 02:51 PM

MAGATS are only pretending to care fraud. How do they expect to be taken seriously when they elected a man who has granted clemency to dozens of convicted *illionaires who have collectively ripped off billions from the American public and who himself is a convicted fraudster 34 times over.

#173 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-30 05:34 PM

#171 | #172 Thank you for your in-kind contributions to the Democratic Party and its candidates.

No need to spend a single dime pointing out how stupid, illiterate, gullible, and naive you people are...

... when there are people like shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan" who willingly volunteer their efforts proving that objective reality.

Bravo, shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan"

Bravo.

Happy New Year

Postscript - Don't p!ss me off, shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan".

---, I'm the only one who responds to you here.

Love you some humiliation, eh?

Kisses ... And Happy New Year, Ralph Cramden (clean shaven) - and note (LOL) the musical (LOL) instrument :-)

#174 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 05:44 PM

It's creepy that you look for that kind of thing you sick f*&^.

#165 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-12-30 01:05 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

LMAO. I saw your comment on a thread, loser. I didn't have to look for anything. Just more proof you're the one obsessed with c* k sucking. Now it's bleeding over to the animal world.

#175 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 06:41 PM

#175
Are you saying he does truckers and their pets. Damn, the boy is expanding his clientele, must be due to Trumps booming economy.

#176 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-12-30 07:31 PM

It's a distraction fro Trump's mega-universe of frauds and theft.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-29 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's about desperately trying to make a story out of nothing
You'd think Somalis were more of the threat to the fabric of the Univerese than transgenders#3 | Posted by REDIAL

HOW STUPID...READ THE DAMN ARTICLE AND MAYBE YOU TWO BOZOS CAN POST SOMETHING OTHER THAN GD LIES....

...." Charges first surfaced in 2022, when U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland called the $250 million fraud scheme "an egregious plot to steal public funds meant to care for children in need." ..."

#177 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 07:46 PM

#9 Racism sells.

#10 | Posted by snoofy

WELL WELL LOOK AT THE ABOVE...........ANOTHER STUPID PUKE FROM A STUPID PUKE

here's how Elon Musk responds to your stupid F*&#^G S*&#T...

" Just stop caring whether they call you racist or not. They do that to scare away inquiries.

Doing that used to work but not any more. Fraud is fraud and it doesn't matter what race someone is.

It doesn't work anymore. We're done with it. "

#178 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 07:52 PM

Are you saying he does truckers and their pets. Damn, the boy is expanding his clientele, must be due to Trumps booming economy.

#176 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-12-30 07:31 PM | Reply | Flag

He's definitely moved to the dark side. Schits getting real.

#179 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 07:53 PM

Right wing loser *ahem* influencer peddled, oversold BS trying to make themselves the next hottest grifter to fleece the MAGA rubes?

#164 | Posted by jpw a

SAME GOES FOR YOU.....you ----- faced leftist dweeb..

from the article headline.....

..." Charges first surfaced in 2022, when U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland called the $250 million fraud scheme "an egregious plot to steal public funds meant to care for children in need." ..."

I'd say you can't be that dumb but you keep moving that bar with each post.

#180 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 07:55 PM

I'd say you can't be that dumb
#180 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 07:55 PM | Reply | Flag

Not me, this is DR, all bets are off.

#181 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 07:59 PM

#180 Thank you for your in-kind contributions to the Democratic Party and its candidates.

No need to spend a single dime pointing out how stupid, illiterate, gullible, and naive you people are...

... when there are people like shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan" who willingly volunteer their efforts proving that objective reality.

Bravo, shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan"

Bravo.

Happy New Year

#182 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:03 PM

Hans is fully retired - everyone can tell.

#183 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 08:04 PM

#180 Is the public library open later than usual, shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan" ? ? ? ?

#184 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:05 PM

#183 Apparently, Left Hind Turds is confirming that shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan"'s library is still open.

Thanks, Left Hind Turds.

You're a champ.

#185 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:07 PM

#183 Thank you for your in-kind contributions to the Democratic Party and its candidates.

No need to spend a single dime pointing out how stupid, illiterate, gullible, and naive you people are...

... when there are people like Left Hind Turds who willingly volunteer their efforts proving that objective reality.

Bravo, Left Hind Turds

Bravo.

Happy New Year

#186 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:08 PM

#125 Thanks for the acknowledgement.

#133 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-29 10:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

I see GalTuesday got a new handle and wouldn't stop protesting until she got the response she wanted...

Clownshack called her a ---- so she had to re-up.

#187 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 08:12 PM

You're a champ.

#185 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Much more than you are and thank you... but you're never going to surpass me.

#188 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 08:13 PM

#188 That's you in my rear-view mirror.

Life intrudes.

Happy New Year.

#189 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:15 PM

#188 That's you in my rear-view mirror.

#189 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Your rear view mirror is that rank bath house you left Snoofy at.

#190 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 08:20 PM

#188 Much more than this?

#183 Apparently, Left Hind Turds is confirming that shrimpsizedgenitalshiddenbyataco"Dan"'s library is still open.

Thanks, Left Hind Turds.

You're a champ.

#185 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:07 PM

Thank you for your in-kind contributions to the Democratic Party and its candidates.

No need to spend a single dime pointing out how stupid, illiterate, gullible, and naive you people are...

... when there are people like Left Hind Turds who willingly volunteer their efforts proving that objective reality.

Bravo, Left Hind Turds

Bravo.

Happy New Year

#191 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:21 PM

At least that Iranian anchor baby, Clownshack, was smart enough to know when to bail.

#192 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 08:21 PM

Him and his momma with two black eyes....

#193 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 08:23 PM

#190 You really like those gay bath house vibes, don't you Left Hind Turds?

You really suck at hiding your true nature, Left Hind Turds.

Not that's there anything wrong with that.

#194 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:25 PM

#190 You really like those gay bath house vibes, don't you Left Hind Turds?

You really suck at hiding your true nature, Left Hind Turds.

Not that's there anything wrong with that.

Your turn, Dorothy

#195 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:26 PM

#190 Just WTF is this supposed to mean

"Your rear view mirror is that rank bath house ..."

That's like saying your mother's womb is that jacked-up Chevy.

Well, okay, maybe that's what you meant.

My bad.

#196 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:31 PM

My bad.

#196 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-30 08:31 PM | Reply | Flag

It always is... You rank, ass bath house -------.

#197 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-30 08:44 PM

DANG IT... planning work tomorrow.......full day....with travel...

and now I find out all I had to do was open a somali day care center....

#198 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 08:57 PM

and now I find out all I had to do was open a somali day care center....

#198 | Posted by shrimptacodan a

and even if I got caught people like this jackwad yerkoff ....


Posted by A_Friend a HANS.....

AND its fellow pansy sash goobers would come to my defense....

#199 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 09:06 PM

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

start packing closet timmy.............

HHS freezes child care payments to Minnesota, requires photo evidence across country

#200 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-30 09:08 PM

" His point was you're (rightfully) upset at this one-quarter of a billion dollar crime.

#21 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-12-29 02:34 PM | REPLY |"

It's looking like the number is much higher than a quarter billion. 36 times higher.

" "I just got out of a press conference where First Assistant U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson, the lead prosecutor in all these federal fraud cases in Minnesota, said that the 14 Medicaid-waivered programs that are under scrutiny in Minnesota cost $18 billion since 2018.

Thompson said it's possible that half of that could be fraudulent"

hotair.com

#201 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-30 10:12 PM

Thompson said it's possible that half of that could be fraudulent"

It's just as possible that it's not.

#202 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-30 10:27 PM

" It's just as possible that it's not.

#202 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2025-12-30 10:27 PM | FLAG: "

If the lead prosecutor is making that comment it most certainly more than a quarter billion.

#203 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-30 10:38 PM

it most certainly more than a quarter billion.

I must just as certainly be less than nine billion.

#204 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-30 11:19 PM

" "I just got out of a press conference where First Assistant U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson, the lead prosecutor in all these federal fraud cases in Minnesota, said that the 14 Medicaid-waivered programs that are under scrutiny in Minnesota cost $18 billion since 2018.
Thompson said it's possible that half of that could be fraudulent"
hotair.com
#201 | Posted by BellRinger

If the lead prosecutor is making that comment it most certainly more than a quarter billion.
#203 | Posted by BellRinger

Proof Jeff will believe ANYTHING especially when there is no evidence provided.

Trump appointee: "Billions stolen!"
Jeff: "Yep, must be billions!"

Facts:
1. Feeding Our Future only got $300 million
2. Prosecutors have said Feeding Our Future was the largest scam...so where is the other $8,700,000,000 in fraud?
3. Minnesota denied them grant money only to be court ordered to provide it.
4. BIDEN's FBI did the raid in 2022
5. Feeding Our Future was run by a white woman
6. The convictions are over a year old
7. Why $9 billion? Because these are just organizations that have high fraud risk due to the nature of their services.
8. Prosecutor's evidence so far for $9 billion? "When I look at the claims data and the providers, I see more red flags than I see legitimate providers." That's it. That's all his evidence. ALL of it thus far. Literally that's it.

No wonder Jeff quotes a conspiracy theorist site called HotAir which mentions none of these as key facts.

This is blowing up because people like Jeff are too stupid to get the facts.

#205 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-12-30 11:40 PM

" No wonder Jeff quotes a conspiracy theorist site called HotAir"

One of his "varied" sources.

#206 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-31 12:00 AM

" 1. Feeding Our Future only got $300 million
2. Prosecutors have said Feeding Our Future was the largest scam...so where is the other $8,700,000,000 in fraud?"

From AI

" Federal prosecutors in Minnesota have described an "industrial-scale fraud" that may involve more than half of the roughly $18 billion in federal funds that supported 14 state-run programs since 2018, calling it one of the most staggering fraud cases they have seen.
This supersedes the previously identified largest COVID-19-related fraud in the country, the "Feeding Our Future" case, which involved around $250 million to $300 million in stolen funds"

Feeding our future was much earlier this year. These indictments are current. Like I've been saying, you pull crap out of your behind.

#207 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-31 12:43 AM

"Federal prosecutors"

So ... Trump's DOJ?

Sorry, we need more than just a claim from the Department of Lawfare.

#208 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-31 12:58 AM

" Sorry, we need more than just a claim from the Department of Lawfare.

#208 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-12-31 12:58 AM | FLAG: "

Prosecuting Medicaid fraud is lawfare?

#209 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-31 01:02 AM

Trump has lost the illegal immigrant and Somali vote. If he pushes harder against corruption he may lose the Democrat vote.

#210 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-12-31 01:46 AM

"Prosecuting Medicaid fraud is lawfare?"

Claiming it's more than half, without providing any evidence, other than "at first glance ... " isn't something LE is supposed to do until they've got actual evidence.

Before I answer any of the questions, please answer mine. You seem to be avoiding the difficult ones on purpose.

#211 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-31 02:07 AM

The daughter-boning------------------- should off himself for stealing from cancer charities.

#212 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-31 02:17 AM

#211. My guess is the amount of money involved in these indictments is around $9 billion. Now they have to prove in court that it was fraudulently obtained.

#213 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-31 02:18 AM

#187 | Posted by lfthndthrds I see GalTuesday got a new handle and wouldn't stop protesting until she got the response she wanted... hahahahahahaha but thanks!

Nope, I stated I live in MN, Gal lives in NY I believe. I have lurked at this site for many years, before Gracie and her banned friends showed up. There was even a post once to lure the lurkers out. But with other obligations, I preferred to lurk. Now I am retired, so I have more time to correct you fools who seriously lack critical thinking skills.

Gee, maybe all those other posters suspected of having had other handles share this with me. But then there are posters like JeffJ who just can hide who they really are.

#214 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 06:31 AM

"just can hide" should be "just can't hide."

#215 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 06:42 AM

New information has come to my attention regarding this "MN daycare scandal".

Seems Lisa Demuth (R), who is the MN House speaker (she previously shared this post with Melissa Hortmann, who was assassinated earlier this year) pointed this You Tuber in the direction of these Somali day care facilities. It should be noted that Lisa Demuth is trying to win the Republican nomination for Governor against Tim Walz for the next election.

Yeah, anybody else suspect a political agenda here?

#216 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 10:11 AM

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

REST EASY DOPES....THIS MATTER HAS BEEN RESOLVED...

Officials in Minnesota now tell us that every single piece of information and registration and reporting

on day care.......WAS RECENTLY STOLEN.......

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

RIIIIIIGHT...I posted this because I know how stupid you pukes are and how gullible you are.....

#217 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-31 03:18 PM

" The buck stops with me.

If you lcommit fraud in Minnesota, you will be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent

of the law.

Tampon closet pansy hands Walz.

December 12, 2025.

2:22 pm

--what a penis-less lying sack.....he's such a good liar he could post here as JPW / rien / truthsux /

legallysuxdix

#218 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-31 03:24 PM

WOW>.....a nation known for piracy scams the US...........who woulda thunk it ?

#219 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-31 03:28 PM

From Reddit:

truthwillout777
4h ago
There is fraud happening and the Minnesota State Legislature has had 10 hearings on it.

At the end of Nick Shirley's video (which I can't believe he left in) It explains that Republicans control the committee and refuse to allow the information needed to stop payments to fraudulent businesses. It's almost as if Republican higher ups are robbing the public funding and scapegoating Somalians.
x.com

#220 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-31 03:35 PM

From AI
" Federal prosecutors in Minnesota have described an "industrial-scale fraud" that may involve more than half of the roughly $18 billion in federal funds that supported 14 state-run programs since 2018, calling it one of the most staggering fraud cases they have seen.
This supersedes the previously identified largest COVID-19-related fraud in the country, the "Feeding Our Future" case, which involved around $250 million to $300 million in stolen funds"
Feeding our future was much earlier this year. These indictments are current. Like I've been saying, you pull crap out of your behind.

#207 | Posted by BellRinger

"Described"

I gave you the evidence the Prosecutor said he had: "Red Flags." That's it. No actual evidence of $9 billion in fraud. Just "Well there could be fraud. We don't know."

But what do you expect from a Trump appointee trying to help Trump give Trump a reason to attack his opponents?

And you fall for it.

But what do we expect from a Pedo Lover trying to protect his president?

#221 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-12-31 03:36 PM

But what do we expect from a Pedo Lover trying to protect his president?

#221 | Posted by Sycophant

REALLY ??? "you people are dishonest".....

FROM THIS VERY THREAD....

But court documents argue that, rather than feeding children, money was instead pocketed by fraudsters or sent elsewhere, to places including Somalia, Kenya and China.
Charges first surfaced in 2022, when U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland called the $250 million fraud scheme "an egregious plot to steal public funds meant to care for children in need." ...
Where did Minnesota fraud money end up?
Funds raised by Feeding Our Future were spent on island vacations, luxury vehicles, waterfront properties, jewelry and other lavish items, according to court documents.

------but what do you expect from a leftist freak, fruit, fanatic and zealot.

#222 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-31 04:07 PM

but let's close this issue out......once again as 2026 elections get closer more bullet points

for every campaign ad.

as in

DEMS DON'T GIVE A EFFING S/T ABOUT THE CRIMINALS STEALING BILLIONS IN FRAUD BUT ATTACK THE PEOPLE EXPOSING IT.

--we'll put that right below trump with young girl with face blacked out ( but it's his daughter )

and trump with several underage girls with faces blacked out...( but it' adult skin care models ).

dem media are lying whores..

HAPPY NEW YEAR......cause mine's gonna be the best in a long time..

#223 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-12-31 04:15 PM

#220 Snoofy, that tracks with my #216 post. Lisa Demuth is smarmy and power hungry. She tried to take the Speaker of the House title before the election was settled. It ended up being split 50-50 between Rs and Ds so she shared the Speaker title with Melissa Hortmann. Didn' know what committees she is on so did a Google search and surprise, surprise, surprise.

Rep. Lisa Demuth
(R-St. Cloud) serves on key finance and policy committees in the Minnesota House, including Education Finance, Early Childhood Finance and Policy, and Health Finance and Policy, while also leading House Republicans and establishing oversight committees like Fraud Prevention. In recent years, she's focused on budget cuts, tax relief, and public safety, working within different House leadership structures

#224 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 06:41 PM

@#220 ... At the end of Nick Shirley's video (which I can't believe he left in) It explains that Republicans control the committee and refuse to allow the information needed to stop payments to fraudulent businesses.

It's almost as if Republican higher ups are robbing the public funding and scapegoating Somalians. ...

I find it difficult to disagree with that opinion.

#225 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-31 06:47 PM

#220 I just watched that clip. Wow! The committee chairperson she is talking about is Lisa Demuth.

#226 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 06:47 PM

So a recap of recent postings to make it coherent:

Lisa Demuth (R) is the current Speaker of the House since the assassination of Melissa Hortmann (D)
Lisa Demuth (R) pointed Nick Shirley toward the Somali daycare centers to investigate/report for fraud
Lisa Demuth (R) is the head of the committee that is refusing to allow information needed to stop payment to fraudulent business.
Lisa Demuth (R) is trying to be the (R) candidate, she has to win the primary first, to challenge Tim Walz (D) for Governor next term

You following this -------------, Oneironaut, Bellringer? It appears Lisa Demuth has an agenda, and she has baited the hooks which you guys bit on.

#227 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 08:24 PM

@#227 ... It appears Lisa Demuth has an agenda ...

Ya think?

Then I see this ...

'We're serving the children' | A look inside a Minneapolis child care center accused of fraud in now-viral video
www.kare11.com

... Hasin shared surveillance video of Shirley's visit to the center, saying Shirley was there for only a few minutes. According to Hasin, Shirley arrived a little after noon and was accompanied by masked men driving a vehicle with no license plates.

"A lot of people are not feeling safe," Hasin said. "Some people believe him. The viral video was shared everywhere." ...

According to the state, ABC Learning Center has been open for about six years and is licensed to serve up to 40 children. Hasin said the center operates seven days a week and was open at the time of Shirley's visit two weeks ago.

"The center is running. There are children here. We're serving the children," Hasin said.

"DHS just came three months ago.

They also came yesterday, so this is a regular business that's running."

Hasin said he and other employees have been receiving threatening phone calls from people across the country since the video went viral. ...




#228 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-31 08:45 PM

@#228 ... Hasin said he and other employees have been receiving threatening phone calls from people across the country since the video went viral. ...

Yeah, that seems to be MAGA's modus operandi.

Fire up the Trump militia.


#229 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-31 08:47 PM

Absolute true story ...

shrimpedsizedgentaliadisguisedbyataco"Dan" (or ssgdbat"Dan") was driving his monster truck, with the $3,200 exhaust enhancement that makes the sound way above the acceptable decibel level.

Be that as it may, ssgdbat"Dan" was driving his monster truck down 221 when he came up to the stop at US17.

A 2017 Honda Ridgeline was next to ssgdbat"Dan", and made the universal sign of roll down your window.

ssgdbat"Dan" rolled down his passenger side window, and the driver in the 2017 Honda Ridgeline said to ssgdbat"Dan", "That's the loudest truck I've ever heard ! ! !.

"Thanks," replied ssgdbat"Dan", with a *wink* in his eye!

To which the the driver in the 2017 Honda Ridgeline replied, "Yeah! I got hard the moment I heard you come up behind me, and came all over myself when you pulled up next to me. Thanks!"

At that point, shrimpedsizedgentaliadisguisedbyataco"Dan" roared past the 2017 Honda Ridgeline, turned right on US-17 (towards Myrtle Beach, natch), and was never seen again!


Yep.

Absolute true story.

#230 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-31 09:11 PM

#228 Yep, a daycare center that was not in the You Tuber story was broken into, vandalized and documents were taken related to employees and children. Someone is going to get hurt with this.

Going back as far as 2015, Fox 9 has been investigating daycare fraud. They claimed 100MM in fraud but investigations could not get close to that amount. It most certainly is not in the billions as some here have claimed.

#231 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 10:47 PM

@#231 ... Yep, a daycare center that was not in the You Tuber story was broken into, vandalized and documents were taken related to employees and children. Someone is going to get hurt with this....

That seems to be what happens when Pres Trump enables his personal militia against someone or some entity.


MAGA seems to need to resort to violence (or threats thereof) to attain their end goals.

Why?

#232 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-31 11:03 PM

#232 MAGA seems to need to resort to violence (or threats thereof) to attain their end goals. This is a concern of mine, reminds me of the mafia. It appears to be getting worse.

#233 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-12-31 11:11 PM

@#233 ... This is a concern of mine ...

A concern of me also.

For example, how many members of Congress may be leaving Congress because of the threats that have been issued against them/


The worst good-paying job in America (November 2025)
www.axios.com

... Death threats and infighting are spurring House Republicans to contemplate whether they want to stay in Congress -- or even leave early. ...

Threats against lawmakers have surged, and after the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, members say the atmosphere feels even more volatile.

- - - Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) told Axios on Monday the threats have been a factor in members' decision to leave. "It takes a toll on people," he said.

- - - Retiring Rep. Jared Golden (D-Maine) and Greene both said the uptick in political violence was part of their decisions to leave Congress.

...


#234 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-31 11:20 PM

Well ----.

Those allegations and video didn't age well.

The videos shot by this youtuber turned out to be after hours or on holidays.

2 others were actually closed when he claimed they were open.

Other daycares he wasn't allowed in...because why would you allow a random stranger into a daycare to video tape kids?

The daycares apparently had already been checked and cleared by Minnesota officials and were operating properly.

Turns out he found literally NO fraud.

#235 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-01-01 07:28 PM

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