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Wednesday, February 21, 2024

Alexander Smirnov, a former FBI informant who accused President Joe Biden of accepting a $5 million bribe, now faces charges for providing false information to the FBI. Smirnov's allegations included claims that "officials linked to Russian intelligence" played a role in disseminating the bribery story.

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Comer and the GOP really stepped in it this time.

#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 07:14 PM | Reply

Translation: the Republican effort to impeach Joe Biden is, in actuality, a Russian intelligence operation.

#2 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Well, this actually predates the GOP's impeach Biden push and goes all the way back to the Hunter Biden op:

Denver Riggleman
@RepRiggleman

Looks like 51 intel folks might have had a point.
Rudy also regularly hung out with sanctioned individuals in his "in search of" episode surrounding Hunter's laptop.

Alan Feuer
@alanfeuer
JUST IN: Alexander Smirnov told the feds during an interview after is arrest that "officials associated with Russian intelligence" were involved in passing a story about Hunter Biden.
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#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-20 07:24 PM | Reply

Well well well...who would've thunk it

#4 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 07:28 PM | Reply

And this, dear trunts, is why 51 intelligence professionals said that the "Hunter's laptop" story had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 07:30 PM | Reply

Here's why MAGAts will never admit their error:

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."

--Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 07:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Looks like 51 intel folks might have had a point.
- ftt

Lol yeah sure.

All a ruse, like all the DOJ doings these days.

I think America understands the federal government is all in on lying out it's ass.

#7 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-20 07:40 PM | Reply

The RussiaGate Hoax again?
--JeffJ

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-20 07:48 PM | Reply

Fun fact ...

Smirnov told the FBI on June 6th 2020. that a Burisma executive referred to Joe Biden as "The Big Guy" either before Trump took office or after the 2016 election.

The FBI has already established that Smirnov never had that phone call, as Smirnov had not yet met any actual Burisma employees at that point in time.

The NY Post story, first stating "The Big Guy" fantasy didn't come out until until October 2020

Gee ... I wonder how Smirnov knew the term "The Big Guy" before the NY Post story ...

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 07:50 PM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

I think you're a wilfully ignorant ----.

Whoops!

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 07:52 PM | Reply

"I think America understands ... "

I think you have no clue what "America understands".

I think you are a joke Comrade. Just not a very funny one.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-20 08:04 PM | Reply

More evidence that Russia intends to interfere in this election as well:

Ryan Goodman
@rgoodlaw

"Indicted ex-FBI informant told investigators he got Hunter Biden dirt from Russian intelligence"

DOJ filing:

"These contacts are extensive and extremely recent"

"He is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections."

DOJ filing: "Smirnov admitted that officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing a story about Businessperson 1" ( Hunter Biden).

Indicted ex-FBI informant told investigators he got Hunter Biden dirt from Russian intelligence officials
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3. DOJ filing.

"Smirnov's efforts to spread misinformation about a candidate of one of the two major parties in the United States continues. ... . He is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections after meeting with Russian intelligence officials in November" 2023.

4. Implications for election integrity in 2024 presidential elections.

Implications for impeachment proceedings.

And more.

5. Smirnov said Kremlin "intercepted cell phone calls made by guests at the hotel. The Russian Intelligence Service intercepted several calls placed by prominent US persons the Russian government may use as 'kompromat' in the 2024 election, depending on who the candidates will be"


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#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-20 09:27 PM | Reply

Gal Tuesday to the rescue once again. Why she repeatedly refuses my attempts at proposal is confounding.

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-20 09:39 PM | Reply

Here's the problem. Polling shows that an overwhelming number of Americans think Biden is too 9pm for a second term.

The Hur report conclusions also have hurt Biden.

I think if they retread his 2020 basement strategy voters will see it as proof he's not up to the rigors of the job. If they have him actually campaign I believe he will fail for obvious reasons. So Democrats are stuck. I don't think he can Ditch Harris after making her race and s3x the reason he chose her in the first place.

Democrats are very fortunate that Trump is likely going to be the nominee. With Trump Biden has a chance. I think he'd get destroyed if Haley were the nominee.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 10:05 PM | Reply

Sorry about #14. That was intended for a different thread.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 10:06 PM | Reply

"According to the new court filing, Smirnov told investigators he was in contact with "four different Russian officials," all of whom are "top officials" and two of whom "are the heads of the entities they represent."

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"Thus, Smirnov's efforts to spread misinformation about a candidate of one of the two major parties in the United States continues," prosecutors wrote.

And, prosecutors wrote, Smirnov claims to have met with Russian intelligence officials as recently as November and December 2023.

"What this shows is that the misinformation he is spreading is not confined to 2020," they wrote. "He is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections after meeting with Russian intelligence officials in November. In light of that fact there is a serious risk he will flee in order to avoid accountability for his actions."

This story has been updated with additional details."

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#16 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-21 12:07 AM | Reply

To sum up: RUS/Putin have invaded their neighbor, assassinated the biggest domestic political threat, coopted one of the right's biggest media stars, and seeded a fabricated story about the US President that was echoed by GOP congressional leadership & rightwing media en masse.

Tim Miller
@Timodc

#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-02-21 12:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What's sad is that Comer Pyle and Gym Jordan and the rest of the GQP Russia caucus don't care if it's a Russian disinfo op, they will still push it out to the MAGAt cult to hurt President Biden and help Dementia Donald their orange Jesus. We've seen here where certain MAGAts are claiming Smirnoff's arrest proves that POTUS, the FBI, and the DOJ are working in cahoots to hurt Addled Orange Adolf.

#18 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2024-02-21 01:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Comer and the GOP really stepped in it this time.

Doesn't matter to them.

They are convinced that this is just the deep state protecting Biden.

You can't ever convince them of what is really happening, they are too far up dementia don's -------- for the truth to reach them.

#19 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-21 07:39 AM | Reply

I think

No, you don't.

America understands the federal government is all in on lying out its ass.

#7 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

This message is brought to you by Xi Jinping.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2024-02-21 08:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They (GOP) are convinced that this is just the deep state protecting Biden.

#19 | POSTED BY NIXON

Not true at all. They understand perfectly there is no "Deep State". The concept is just another convenient lie. Just like they close their eyes to being fed disinformation by Russian Intelligence.

The GOP is interested in OUTCOMES. How they get to those outcomes is less than a detail. Truth, logic, common decency? Not useful concepts. Tossed in the trash along with personal pride and honest patriotism.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-21 08:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oops.

Guess the righty morons got duped again.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2024-02-21 09:57 AM | Reply

Sorry about #14. That was intended for a different thread.
#15 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Cool story. Now how about this article?
Does the GOP's willingness to fully embrace this obvious from the start deception impact your support of the fascist wannabe party?
Are you willing to acknowledge that you have been lied to by the GOP and fooled into personally spreading Russian propaganda about the Biden family? Then again you did just say the other day that propaganda is easy to recognize. Was that your preemptive confession to being a knowing and willing participant in a Russian propaganda campaign?

#23 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-21 09:57 AM | Reply

Why are the MAGAts so eager to slurp up the Russian lies?

#24 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-02-21 10:02 AM | Reply

Why are the MAGAts so eager to slurp up the Russian lies?

#2 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE: It's what they want to hear. It's helpful that they don't have the sense God gave a turnip.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-21 10:35 AM | Reply

@#2 ... Why are the MAGAts so eager to slurp up the Russian lies? ...

A related question...

How far has Pres Putin penetrated into the Republican Party?


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-21 10:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2 they're entirely beholden to confirmation bias.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2024-02-21 10:58 AM | Reply

Honestly it was a rhetorical question. It doesn't even have to be that believable. They are so eager to gobble it up they just need to hear/see it somewhere for it to be fact. I think it goes beyond confirmation bias to something more sinister they have been groomed for the last 30+ years.

#28 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-02-21 11:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"How far has Pres Putin penetrated into the Republican Party?"-----The question is already being posed as to whether Comer and Jordan are themselves Russian assets or agents. This theory makes perfect since given what they've been doing.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-21 11:16 AM | Reply

Democrats are very fortunate that Trump is likely going to be the nominee. With Trump Biden has a chance. I think he'd get destroyed if Haley were the nominee.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

There's no luck involved. Republicans are too stupid and hateful to nominate anyone else.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-21 12:50 PM | Reply

Related...

Hunter Biden Says Indicted Ex-FBI Informant's Claims Tainted Cases Against Him
www.usnews.com

... The legal team for Hunter Biden, U.S. President Joe Biden's son, said on Tuesday that an indicted former FBI informant's claims had raised legal troubles for him.

In separate court filings, the legal team argued that the claims by the FBI informant -- accused of lying about a bribery scheme involving Hunter Biden and his father -- threw an earlier plea deal into jeopardy and led to two indictments against Hunter Biden on tax evasion and gun charges.

In a Tuesday court filing, Abbe Lowell, a lawyer for Hunter Biden, called Smirnov's claims "ridiculous," adding: "It now seems clear that the Smirnov allegations infected this case." ...



#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-21 01:09 PM | Reply

Why are the MAGAts so eager to slurp up the Russian lies?

#24 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

They wouldn't be MAGATS if they weren't already predisposed to believing the lies. Trump's entire career is based upon lies.

#32 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-21 01:51 PM | Reply

Shocking Filing Says Busted Anti-Biden FBI Informant Had Contact With Leader Of An Assassination Squad

"In a new and stunning 28-page filing Tuesday, Weiss and his team laid out shocking details of Smirnov's alleged crimes and the reasons he should be imprisoned pending trial.

One of those reasons is Smirnov's extensive foreign contacts, which include someone in charge of a group whose job it is to carry out foreign assassinations " and whom Smirnov implicated in a lie about Hunter Biden:

Of particular note, Smirnov has reported numerous contacts with Russian Official 1, who has been described by Smirnov in a number of ways, including as the son of a former high-ranking Russian government official, someone who purportedly controls two groups of individuals tasked with carrying out assassination efforts in a third-party country, a Russian representative to another country, and as someone with ties to a particular Russian intelligence service. This latter fact was reported by Smirnov in October, 2023.

In December 2023, Smirnov reported to his Handler about a recent overseas trip, where Smirnov attended a meeting with Russian Official 2, who Smirnov has described as a high-ranking member of a specific Russian foreign intelligence service. According to Smirnov, the purpose of the meeting was to discuss a potential resolution to Russia's war against Ukraine. During this same trip, Smirnov apparently attended a separate meeting with Russian Official 1, the individual who controls groups that are engaged in overseas assassination efforts.

During this meeting with Russian Official 1, Russian Official 1 claimed that another individual, Russian Official 4, the head of a particular unit of a Russian Intelligence Service, ran an intelligence operation at a "club" located at a particular hotel. Smirnov told the FBI Handler that the Russian Intelligence Service intercepted cell phone calls made by guests at the hotel. The Russian Intelligence Service intercepted several calls placed by prominent U.S. persons the Russian government may use as "kompromat" in the 2024 election, depending on who the candidates will be. As described below, this story, which again was relayed by Smirnov to his Handler in/about December, 2023, appears to mirror the story that Smirnov was pushing on investigators and prosecutors during their meeting with him in September, 2023 (in which Smirnov pushed investigators to look into whether Businessperson 1 had been recorded in a foreign hotel).


"Businessperson 1" is the name by which Hunter Biden is referred in the filing.

www.mediaite.com

#33 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-21 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

House Republican Makes EXPLOSIVE Accusation Against Comer and Jordan, Says They Were Warned' Ex-Informant's Claim Was Uncorroborated " But Touted It Anyway

Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) made a serious allegation on Wednesday night, telling CNN that Rep. James Comer (R-KY) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) were warned that a former FBI informant whose claims they publicly repeated could not be corroborated. ... Appearing on CNN's The Source, Buck, who serves on the House Judiciary Committee that Jordan chairs, said Jordan and Comer " the House Oversight Committee chair " were warned about the ex- informant's claim being incorroborated. Comer's committee has been the primary driver behind the impeachment efforts against Biden and the chairman has appeared on Fox News hundreds of times where he has made increasingly incendiary charges, up to and including the claim that Biden engaged in bribery as vice president.
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#34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-22 12:10 AM | Reply

COLLINS: Looking at what you said last September, you were condemning your own party's impeachment efforts, saying that "Republicans in the House who are itching for an impeachment are relying on an imagined history." Did you ever think that it would collapse and this spectacular of a fashion

BUCK: Well, Kaitlan, it's even more of an imagined history now. Obviously, this witness " and we were warned at the time that we received the document outlining this witness's testimony " we were warned that the credibility of this statement was not known.

And yet people, my colleagues went out and talk to the public about how this was credible and how it was damning and how it proved President Biden's " at the time Vice President Biden's " complicity in receiving bribes. It appears to absolutely be false and to really undercut the nature of the charges. We've always been looking for a link between what Hunter Biden received in terms of money and Joe Biden's activities or Joe Biden receiving money. This clearly is not a credible link at this point.

COLLINS: So, James Comer and Jim Jordan " they knew that this was not corroborated information, yet they still went public with it, talked about it on television, used it to fuel these investigations regardless?

BUCK: That's what it appears. I certainly didn't have any evidence outside the statement itself that it was credible. And as a prosecutor for 25 years, Kaitlan, I never went to the public until I could prove the reliability of a statement. And even then, the only one public statement a prosecutor makes is the charging document. Let's see what the evidence is in this impeachment, if there is more evidence before going forward.

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-22 12:10 AM | Reply

Mark ----- said something like "It's easier to dupe someone than it is to convince that they've been duped." That's a fundamental problem with MAGAbillies.

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-22 12:15 AM | Reply

"Democrats are very fortunate that Trump is likely going to be the nominee."

Luck has nothing to do with it.

It's a Taylor Swift psyop!

Remember?

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-22 12:05 PM | Reply

Luck has nothing to do with it.

True. Simple fact is Lewzer is all Republicans have got.

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-02-22 12:10 PM | Reply

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