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Wednesday, May 22, 2024

This small ranching town, surrounded by towering tree-topped mountains and a valley of rolling grass fields, sits tucked into the northeast corner of the state " both out of the way and right in the middle of a contentious debate. At a meeting late last month, 25 people packed into a stuffy conference room in the Wallowa County Courthouse " 35 miles west of the Idaho state line and 260 miles east of Portland " to hear county commissioners debate a single agenda item: leaving Oregon.

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The Greater Idaho movement, which wants to secede from the Beaver State and become a part of its neighbor to the east, had sputtered along for years, gaining little traction. But then, the coronavirus hit in the spring of 2020. The global pandemic was "a blessing" for the movement, according to Mike McCarter, who took up the movement's mantle in 2019. Quarantines and remote learning inflamed residents' anger with the state government for shutting down schools and businesses. This tension invigorated the effort to join Idaho, a state whose government reacted wholly differently to COVID-19 than Oregon did.

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And what's funny, when liberals ------ their state enough, they will start trying to move to the conservatives one..

Liberalism is a mental disease.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2024-05-22 03:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Meanwhile, back in reality: Top tier workers are moving away from Red states, and refusing to even consider jobs in Red states, because of the GOP War on Women.

But I have no doubt Red states still appeal to bottom tier workers like Boaz, who would rather live where women are oppressed anyway.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-22 03:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Top tier workers are moving away from Red states, and refusing to even consider jobs in Red states, because of the GOP War on Women.

LOL. Keep telling yourself that skippy..

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2024-05-22 04:16 PM | Reply

Did you know there was a time when the people living in the Florida panhandle wanted to join Alabama. They even voted for it.

Bottom line being.

Who fkkking cares.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-22 04:21 PM | Reply

Who fkkking cares.

As a progressive, you can say that. Our founding fathers didnt think anyone would want to leave the union, but then again, they didnt think of progressives. Now that common sense people want to get away from progressives, progressives wont let them leave because they need the tax dollars.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2024-05-22 04:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

As a progressive, you can say that. Our founding fathers didnt think anyone would want to leave the union, but then again, they didnt think of progressives. Now that common sense people want to get away from progressives, progressives wont let them leave because they need the tax dollars.

#5 | POSTED BY BOAZ

What world do you live in?

www.brookings.edu

Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America's economy.

How can one govern when the masses are so freaking ignorant.

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-22 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Top tier workers are moving away from Red states, and refusing to even consider jobs in Red states, because of the GOP War on Women.
LOL. Keep telling yourself that skippy..

#3 | POSTED BY BOAZ

www.nytimes.com
One by one, doctors who handle high-risk pregnancies are disappearing from Idaho " part of a wave of obstetricians fleeing restrictive abortion laws and a hostile state legislature.

www.opb.org'brain%20drain'&text=Indeed%2C%20states%20with%20abortion%20bans,Association%20of%20American%20Medical%20Colleges.

An early indication of that impending medical "brain drain" came in February, when 76% of respondents in a survey of more than 2,000 current and future physicians say they would not even apply to work or train in states with abortion restrictions.

Truthhurts "As an aside, even medical STUDENTS won't want to train in -------- states. Abortion is a necessary medical skill that will not be taught in those states."

www.latimes.com

As professionals flee antiabortion policies, red states face a brain drain

Republicans and reality, never the ----- shall meet.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-22 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And what's funny, when liberals ------ their state enough, they will start trying to move to the conservatives one..
Liberalism is a mental disease.

#1 | POSTED BY BOAZ

What's actually funny is that you don't understand that the founding fathers were revolutionary progressives.

This nation was established as a direct refutation of conservative values.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-22 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"red states face a brain drain"

Deplorables like it that way.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-22 04:39 PM | Reply

"Our founding fathers didnt think anyone would want to leave"

Hey Boaz.
Your Founding Father is Jefferson Davis.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-22 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That's a shallow pond to drain... shouldn't take long.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-22 04:41 PM | Reply

Pity Boaz never checked out The Federalist Papers, but, as they say, there you go.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-22 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Comrade Boazo still posting anti-American crap.
The scenario he posted has exactly zero chance of happening.

#13 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-05-22 05:49 PM | Reply

Apparently boazy, and the 12 or so people in that meeting of 25, just mouth the words of the pledge without really knowing what those words mean

Their "pledge" to America is like their lives, empty and meaningless

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-05-22 10:22 PM | Reply

Who cares about the reason.

I don't see why if border counties vote to leave the State they aren't allowed to.

Also the state accepting them must vote to admit them

That's how democracy works in a republic, isn't it?

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-23 01:28 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, back in reality: Top tier workers are moving away from Red states, and refusing to even consider jobs in Red states, because of the GOP War on Women.
- snoofy

I have seen data on this.

That would mean Texas is losing top tier professionals?

Is that the claim?

I doubt red states or blue states are losing or gaining people of any significance based upon abortion policies.

But purely economic.

If people had the luxury of picking and choosing them this might be true.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-23 01:33 PM | Reply

You give idiots a bad name.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-23 02:36 PM | Reply

Boaz drank the bad water at Camp Lejeune.

It's rotted his brain.

#18 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-05-23 10:39 PM | Reply

Liberalism is a mental disease.

#1 | Posted by boaz

Says the idiot who reads tabloids...

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-23 11:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now that common sense people want to get away from progressives, progressives wont let them leave because they need the tax dollars.

#5 | Posted by boaz

I can't believe the level of idiocy that ------ from that empty head of yours.

Guess what else goes away with tax money becoming less available? Your tax payer funded pension, mooch.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-23 11:05 PM | Reply

Says the idiot who reads tabloids...

More like bumper stickers.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-23 11:16 PM | Reply

@#5 ... Now that common sense people want to get away from progressives,

Do you think they are "common sense people" merely because you agree with them?



#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-23 11:26 PM | Reply

#16

Boise is one of the fastest growing cities in the US.

Almost exclusively, the fastest growing cities in the US are in red states. Maybe some could be argued as purple states.

Alternatively, the cities in decline are almost exclusively in blue states.

You can draw from this what you want, but it is a fact.

#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-24 05:44 AM | Reply

This is how repugs entice folks to move to red state ---------.

There is a large difference in expected life spans for people living in certain states, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data.

For instance, people born in New York and California " two of the richest states in the country, which largely vote Democratic " have a life expectancy of 77.7 and 79 years, respectively. But people in Mississippi and Louisiana " two of the poorest states, which tend to vote Republican " live, on average, until they are 71.9 and 73.1 years old.

People who live in Republican-leaning states tend to have less money, worse health conditions, higher rates of gun-related deaths and lower levels of education than people living in Democratic states.

kentuckylantern.com

#24 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-05-24 06:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Urban Liberals' tax dollars propping up rural Conservatives' property

#25 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-05-24 06:59 AM | Reply

My gut reaction to this was, if Republicans want to concentrate themselves in one red state and diminish their federal political power, i say let them.

Then i checked the map and this is like two thirds of Oregon's land mass. I'd be surprised if the state would just give that away.

#26 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-24 08:14 AM | Reply

Almost exclusively, the fastest growing cities in the US are in red states.

Red states are mostly undesirable ---------, so real estate is cheap.

Everyone wants to be in NY/SF, so nobody can afford it, which makes red state dumps ripe for gentrification and growth.

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-24 08:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

...Our founding fathers didnt think anyone would want to leave the union...common sense people want to get away from progressives...
#5 | Posted by boaz

Yes, those horrible progressives pushing abolition really offended those conservatives who just wanted to do things the old fashioned way.

#28 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-05-24 08:49 AM | Reply

"Almost exclusively, the fastest growing cities in the US are in red states."

Is the growth almost exclusively unwanted babies?

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-24 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Then i checked the map and this is like two thirds of Oregon's land mass. I'd be surprised if the state would just give that away."

It's district two. The only district that consistently elects Republicans.

If you want an example of Jerrymandering, Oregon might be your best example.

#30 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-24 10:29 AM | Reply

"Everyone wants to be in NY/SF, so nobody can afford it, which makes red state dumps ripe for gentrification and growth."

Uhh...what?

San Francisco is the fastest declining city in the United States. The population has dropped by more than 8% in the last five years.

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-24 10:32 AM | Reply

The population has dropped by more than 8% in the last five years.

It went up a bit last year.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-24 10:54 AM | Reply

This is pure stupidity.

Nobody is going to "secede".

#33 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-05-24 11:53 AM | Reply

"The population has dropped by more than 8% in the last five years."

In April 2024, San Francisco home prices were up 3.7% compared to last year, selling for a median price of $1.4M.

On average, homes in San Francisco sell after 22 days on the market compared to 27 days last year.

There were 489 homes sold in April this year, up from 409 last year.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-24 11:54 AM | Reply

It's Oregon. (Where they keep Portland)

I think they just misspelled "succeed".

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-24 11:55 AM | Reply

#34 SFO homes aren't keeping up with inflation.

#36 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-24 12:10 PM | Reply

San Francisco is the fastest declining city in the United States. The population has dropped by more than 8% in the last five years.

#31 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

I believe it's hit bottom, or at least a local low.

As Redial stated it had a influx as startups are on the up swing with AI.

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-24 12:12 PM | Reply

"It's Oregon. (Where they keep Portland)"

Portland is also in the top ten of declining cities, 3% over the last five years.

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-24 12:17 PM | Reply

Boise is one of the fastest growing cities in the US.

Was due to the explosion of remote work during the pandemic.

Its not even in the top 20 anymore and its one of the current worst housing markets.

realestate.usnews.com

www.deseret.com

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-24 12:41 PM | Reply

Pesky facts.

#40 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-24 01:16 PM | Reply

#39

It's not just Boise, it's much of Idaho.

There is an Air Force Base not too far from Boise, Mountain Home. Most of the dudes I work with are fighter pilots. One of them was looking for a house in outskirts of Boise. One of them went up by $100k between the time he started looking in May, and the time he moved in October. Another buddy was trying to buy in Mountain Home proper, but it's more common than not for a mobile home to be in the $300k price range.

But you're not wrong about remote work. Why live in an expensive shoebox in Manhattan or SF when you can plant a flag in an area with lots to do at a price where you can still afford to travel while you work? Especially if you don't have a family to take care of.

I'm diamond with Hilton, which gets you access to the executive lounge. A couple years ago I was staying at the Hilton Dubrovnik, which is a few hundred feet away from the castle most people would know as King's Landing from Game of Thrones. During the day the lounge was full of younger people on laptops, chatting away in their ear buds. I can't prove it, but I suspect that most were remote workers taking advantage of the fact that they were no longer tethered to some ------ office in some ------ major Metropolitain area.

If you're into outdoor mountain activities, Idaho is a pretty good choice. It would be at the top of my list of places to move, were it not for the fact that most of my family is there;)

So I'll take Albania.

#41 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-24 01:38 PM | Reply

I totally understand the allure.

I went to a conference once in Coeur d'Alene and it was gorgeous. Nice skiing, although a bit hair raising at times for someone used to skiing east coast "mountains."

I made a shift in my career objectives recently to make remote work more possible and likely for that exact reason. I'd love to live outside of a major metro again and give my family the life I had growing up.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-24 02:47 PM | Reply

San Francisco is the fastest declining city in the United States. The population has dropped by more than 8% in the last five years.

And it's still one of the most expensive places in the world to live. I love how rightwingers believe in supply and demand until it interrupts their baseless priors.

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-25 02:54 PM | Reply

And it's still one of the most expensive places in the world to live. I love how rightwingers believe in supply and demand until it interrupts their baseless priors.
#43 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2024-05-25

This isn't true, even San Jose is more expensive than SFO.

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-25 03:15 PM | Reply

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