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Wednesday, May 29, 2024

A senior Israeli official has said he expects the war against Hamas in Gaza to continue for at least the rest of this year.

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"Never think that war, no matter how necessary nor how justified, is not a crime. Ask the infantry and ask the dead."

Ernest Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-29 01:32 PM | Reply

Basically, until the absurdly amorphous and unreachable/unattainable "goal" is achieved?

You'd almost think Hamas had somehow arranged for payments to Netanyahu rather than the other way around.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-29 02:13 PM | Reply

Netanyahu, doing everything he can to help Trump win in November.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 02:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bibi Adviser: Gaza War Will Continue At Least Thru 2024

This is good news for ... Jill Stein 2024!

#4 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-29 02:46 PM | Reply

Biden supporting Netanyahu is going to give us Trump.

Just what blood thirsty warmongers, like Censored, want.

Happy extinction.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

By the way. While America stands in support of the genocide.

There's this:

Anti-Israel Protesters Clash with Police, Fires Break Out at Israeli Embassy in Mexico City

www.nationalreview.com

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 05:34 PM | Reply

Israel is creating the conditions that will destroy their enterprise if they don't relent.

Eventually even the US will tire of them. They are making enemies faster than they can deal with them.

Isolated, Israel has no Future. If they are too stupid to see that they will continue as they are.

WW3 is more likely to come out of Israel than Ukraine.

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-29 05:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7

You're not convincing, Chicken Little.

Give it a rest.

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-05-29 05:39 PM | Reply

You think you Are convincing?.. Convince Me.

It's not chicken little to see how stupid things are getting.

Wars everywhere. Mostly about "Territorial integrity". The US pushing for more war everywhere, China,Russia,Iran, anywhere that doesn't do what we tell them to.

Except Israel, them we "support" even when they commit crimes against humanity and shout openly for the Annihilation and ethnic cleansing of occupied people they have tormented relentlessly since the inception of the Israeli State.

Israel is Loved and supported no matter what horrors they commit with shameless open delight.

Nothing chicken little about that.

It will cause Blowback. Israel isn't invulnerable.

Even the US has limits to what it will tolerate.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-29 06:04 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Nothing will convince you that WWIII is NOT imminent. That's the ONLY thing you HAVE convinced me of.

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-05-29 06:15 PM | Reply

imo, PM Netanyahu is actively creating the future rebels he seems to be trying to eliminate.


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-29 08:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Bibi wants/needs ------- to win

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-29 08:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

PM Netanyahu is actively creating the future rebels he seems to be trying to eliminate.

Not if he kills them all.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 08:11 PM | Reply

@#13 ... Not if he kills them all. ...

"Them all"

Needs further definition.

Please define.

thx.

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-29 08:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Please define.

Every last living thing in Gaza?

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-29 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Didn't realize I was being so cryptic.

Thanks for lending a hand, Redial.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 08:28 PM | Reply

@#15 ... Every last living thing in Gaza? ...

If that is the goal, will it really solve the problem Israel faces?

Or amplify that problem?


That is my concern with PM Netanyahu's current strategy.

Stated differently: What is his end-game?


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-29 08:30 PM | Reply

will it really solve the problem Israel faces?

Or amplify that problem?

Don't know if Netanyahu has thought it that far through.

What is his end-game?

An immediate victory.

He's 74 years old. Not sure he'll live long enough for there to be long term goals.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 08:34 PM | Reply

If that is the goal, will it really solve the problem Israel faces?

If he gets every last cat, gnat, and old gnu. In Gaza and Lebanon.

Stated differently: What is his end-game?

Kill as many Palestinians as he can.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-29 08:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#18 ... What is his end-game?

An immediate victory.

He's 74 years old. Not sure he'll live long enough for there to be long term goals. ...

Yeah. Maybe.

But PM Netanyahu has other issues...

For example...

What is the latest on Netanyahu's corruption trial? (2023)
apnews.com

... Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's corruption trial has resumed after a month-long break, refocusing the spotlight on the long-serving leader's legal woes after a wave of protests over his government's plan to overhaul the country's judiciary.

Netanyahu is charged with fraud, breach of trust and accepting bribes in three separate scandals involving powerful media moguls and wealthy associates. He denies wrongdoing.

Critics say that Netanyahu is driven to weaken the courts and change the judicial system as a way to open an escape route from his trial, claims he dismisses as untrue.

The corruption charges also have been at the center of a protracted political crisis that sent Israelis to the polls five times in less than four years "--each vote essentially a referendum on Netanyahu's fitness to rule. After losing power in 2021 to a coalition of opponents, Netanyahu returned as prime minister late last year, despite his legal problems. Under Israeli law, the prime minister has no obligation to step aside while on trial.

Here is a look at the ongoing trial: ...


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-29 08:44 PM | Reply

Netanyahu Asks to Postpone Testimonies in Corruption Trial Until After War (March 2024)
www.haaretz.com

... Netanyahu's lawyers' motion to the court asked to postpone testimonies 'as long as there is no substantial change in the security situation in the country,' citing difficulties in communication between the PM and his legal team due to the war in Gaza ...

So.... PM Netanyahu seems to have a personal benefit for extending the war for as long as he possibly can get away with doing.


Just an observation ....


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-29 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Also. Not saying 74 is old.

But. Netanyahu has a goal. It's to take over Gaza and then the West Bank.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 09:30 PM | Reply

@#22 ... But. Netanyahu has a goal. ...

I disagree with that goal.

My current opinion is that he is extending the war to avoid prosecution.


#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-29 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There is a significant faction in Israel that seeks an extended Israel without Palestinians. Look up "hilltop youth" who want the entire West Bank cleared of Palestinians.

#24 | Posted by TenMile at 2024-05-29 10:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"From the River to the Sea Palestine/Israel will be Free".

Both sides love that one. Just pick which and chant away.

They both call it a hate slogan.

#25 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-30 01:46 AM | Reply

Israel will occupy the strip as long as we occupied Iraq. The end game is the destruction of Hamas as an entity capable of governing Gaza.

Grow up twits, you will bitch but you will vote Biden.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One thing Nobody saw it coming, Hamas killing off DEI in the US. It's disappeared from earnings calls and the staff for it are being let go in many places, and Harvard will no longer make political statements.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 08:38 AM | Reply

Maybe next time throw less gays off of buildings in your fight for ethnic justice

#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 08:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Hamas killing off DEI in the US."

Hamas succeeded where Republicans failed.

Naturally, Republicans are looking to Hamas for more leadership guidance.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-30 08:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The end game is the destruction of Hamas as an entity capable of governing Gaza."

Thats also the beginning game and the middle game.

Netanyahu doesn't have an end game. He just has endless destruction.

It's a move right out if the Hamas playbook: Israel will be wiped from the face of the earth and removed from the pages of history. Except it's Gaza.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-30 08:46 AM | Reply

"One thing Nobody saw it coming, Hamas killing off DEI in the US."

Now that's the kind of thing which can really help people understand how Netanyahu can find a power-sharing partner in Hamas: A common enemy.

Netanyahu signs Israel coalition deal with anti-LGBT Noam party
www.bbc.com

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-30 08:54 AM | Reply

Netanyahu doesn't have an end game. He just has endless destruction.

#30 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-05-30 08:46 AM | FLAG:

They kind of do. Rafah refugee camp borders the Egyptian side of the wall and there's probably at least 50 tunnels between Egypt and that camp. It's the source of Hamas logistics.

They're going to bulldoze everything along the wall, create a new buffer zone between Rafah and the wall, then put up a second wall. It's similar to Caesar at Alesia, except they'll use this buffer zone to drill downward and attack new smuggling tunnels, and seed the entire area with vibration sensors and microphones in boreholes. There will be another buffer zone on the Palestinian side of the new wall where anybody that goes near it gets shot.

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe next time throw less gays off of buildings in your fight for ethnic justice
#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Fewer.

Oh no! SitzKrieg (#32) has described an actual strategy that Israel has for conducting this war and defending itself from future terrorist attacks (and is not committing GENOCIDE!).

That must put the Pro-Hamasers panties in a bunch. Since they think that the Platonic ideal of warfare is raping and murdering 1,200 civilian men, women, and children at music festivals.

#33 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-30 11:50 AM | Reply

"WW3 is more likely to come out of Israel than Ukraine."

No, pretty sure the nukes will be launched from Russia. Ukraine has not made a single threat of the use of nuclear weapons; Pitin has threatened several times.

#34 | Posted by danni at 2024-05-30 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The idea that Israel is the first country to start a nuclear exchange is one of the most plausible nuclear scenarios. It's the only nuclear armed power that's gone to war with all of its neighbors at once and may one day do that again.

#35 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 01:48 PM | Reply

but thankfully a massive technology gap, and the current dependence of those neighbors on US hegemony, make it a far fetched notion.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 01:49 PM | Reply

Oh no! SitzKrieg (#32) has described an actual strategy that Israel has for conducting this war and defending itself from future terrorist attacks (and is not committing GENOCIDE!).

#33 | POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2024-05-30 11:50 AM | FLAG:

I did pick Caesar at Aleisa for a reason. Once Celtic leadership was captured and mostly murdered, the Celtic Holocaust began and an estimated 2 million people died as their civilization fell apart and was exploited by the Romans.

#37 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 01:55 PM | Reply

"The idea that Israel is the first country to start a nuclear exchange is one of the most plausible nuclear scenarios."

Has everyone already forgotten about North Korea?

Don't worry. Kim hasn't forgotten about you.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un believes that US policy is making nuclear war inevitable because he believes that his country is under an existential threat by America.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-30 02:17 PM | Reply

Uh huh. NK is a rational actor. Their artillery wall went obsolete so nukes were the only option to ensure their security. They're a crime family that runs a company as a slave empire.

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-30 03:00 PM | Reply

"Biden supporting Netanyahu is going to give us Trump."

Nope again, princess.

"Months into the Israel-Hamas war, roughly six-in-ten Americans (58%) say Israel's reasons for fighting Hamas are valid. But how Israel is carrying out its response to Hamas' Oct. 7 attack receives a more mixed evaluation. About four-in-ten U.S. adults (38%) say Israel's conduct of the war has been acceptable, and 34% say it has been unacceptable. The remaining 26% are unsure."

www.pewresearch.org

You don't seem to venture out much, but generally USans seem to have a vastly different view of the ground truth than you do. But maybe you're Muslim. Almost half of American Muslims polled say that Hamas should fight Israel, and 21% say that 10/7 was acceptable.

Anyways, I don't think that is going to play well with the center. Which is why people like you need to find a way to subjugate and control the population if you ever want to be in charge.

#40 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-30 03:14 PM | Reply

Dude, you're Hallucinatin'. Find some common ground with reality please.

It's embarrassing to read.

#41 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-30 03:43 PM | Reply

#41

I'm not sure who you're referring to, but it appears that many USans don't view the Islamic Resistance as being markedly different than the Islamic State. And I would tend to agree with them.

Our personal opinions are immaterial, however. Come voting time, the preference of the majority will be made known.

#42 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-30 03:51 PM | Reply

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#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 02:27 PM
Netanyahu, doing everything he can to help Trump win in November.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-29 03:13 PM
Biden supporting Netanyahu is going to give us Trump.

Nah, the Islamist agitators and know-nothing university students in masks and keffiyehs (new fashion statement of the "Resistance" - Che's beret is so old) may just do unto Biden in 2024 what BLM did unto Hillary in 2016. White Privilege Matters, bitches! While most non-involved LatinX, BlackX, AsianX and WhiteX are busy with their own actual problems like increased COL and disappearing / thin job market.

And wait till some of these financially illiterate find out what the "D" in the BDS really means for their education cost (same old playbook, but Israel is not South Africa of 30-40 years ago), or what "From the River to the Sea" really means - most can't point out which river or the sea on the map, especially one that says "Palestine" / "Palestinian Territory" without "Israel" on it.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-29 02:13 PM
Basically, until the absurdly amorphous and unreachable/unattainable "goal" is achieved?

You are paying too much attention to politicians, "neutral / both sides" reporting by Western media and Effeteposer scripts, and aren't paying enough attention to what has been happening on the ground.

Israel is moving Gazans to "safe zones" to seal / destroy / "sanitize" the tunnels in the opened areas and in the process occasionally kill the Hamas HVTs. Rafah is about [near] the last stop, with Hamas having ~3.5 battalions there and massive net of tunnels, but IDF is going slowly because of civilian casualties and other "red lines" and distribution of food/aid which is uncoordinated, incompetent and being stolen by Hamas, for their own use and to sell at skyrocketing prices.

Arabic countries in and around the region (except for Algeria) want "Palestinian problem" instigated by Iran to go away and have long refused to contribute to "Palestina Gaza" and "Palestina West Bank" and are only happy that Israel is one taking the flack for doing "something" about it.

Gazans themselves have increasingly started blaming Hamas for their misfortunes since about December 2023:

www.wsj.com - Gazans are starting to blame Hamas for the suffering and those voices are getting louder - 2023 December 21

www.latimes.com - Rage in Gaza isn't directed only at Israel. Some are angry with Hamas too - 2024 Jan 31

www.washingtonpost.com - In war-battered Gaza, residents grow angry with Hamas - 2024-04-27

|------- "It's a silent and gradual revolution that is spreading and brewing among displaced and suffering civilians in Gaza who hold Hamas, the nihilistic criminal enterprise that has governed Gaza since 2007, responsible for their annihilation, suffering, misery and displacement," Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, an American political analyst originally from Gaza...

"[Hamas] destroyed us " we must get rid of them." Yousef Mahmoud Hamad Al-Mansi, a former Hamas minister, who was arrested by Israel on Dec. 5, was referring to Hamas and its current leader, Yahya Sinwar...

Palestinian woman angrily tells a journalist from the Qatari-owned Al Jazeera network that the people in Gaza are starving. When the reporter answers that it's because no aid is coming in, the woman responds boldly that it is "all going to the tunnels underground... . Hamas takes everything to their homes." ...
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And so on and so on...
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#43 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-05-31 08:00 AM | Reply

10/7 was acceptable.

#40 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER AT

Not only acceptable, but legal according to international law.

#44 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-05-31 03:09 PM | Reply

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