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Saturday, July 27, 2024

The polls are in after a chaotic few weeks in the 2024 presidential election, and they point to a newly hyper-competitive race. Vice President Kamala Harris' elevation has jolted the race and blunted the momentum former President Donald Trump could have seen coming out of the Republican convention and the assassination attempt that preceded it.

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I want a Harris-Cheney ticket.

why vote for a bit of chaos when pure pandemonium can be had?

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-27 07:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

TOR

"I want a Harris-Cheney ticket."

Bad idea.

Liz Cheney is only anti-Trump, not anti-Republican.

But I do agree that Liz would be a heavy hitter on the campaign trail.

#2 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-27 08:23 PM | Reply

I can't think of any more beautiful way to cause pure political anarchy in this country than those two.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-27 08:33 PM | Reply

My opinion... the VP pick needs to be a straight white man. Electing a non-white woman as POTUS is enough of a challenge.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-27 08:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#3

So.... no Harris/BillJohnson '24?

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-27 09:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

My opinion... the VP pick needs to be a straight white man. Electing a non-white woman as POTUS is enough of a challenge.

#4 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-07-27 08:37 PM | REPLY | FLAG:RIGHT

I couldn't agree more.

#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-27 09:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

REDIAL @ #4

Also, agreed.

But as we all know, a presidential race is all about reaching that coveted #270

No doubt a team of number crunchers are working on that 24/7.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-27 10:55 PM | Reply

No doubt a team of number crunchers are working on that 24/7.

Two teams are working in it.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-27 11:02 PM | Reply

------- racist old ----- can ---- the hell right off. Fat Donnie Felon is a dementia addled geriatric ---- that thinks movie characters are real.

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-07-27 11:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If the number crunchers can come up with a V.P. choice that helps Harris and, at the same time, also deprives Trump of reaching #270, all the better.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-27 11:53 PM | Reply

If the number crunchers can come up with a V.P. choice that helps Harris and, at the same time, also deprives Trump of reaching #270, all the better.

My money is on the decorated Navy combat pilot and astronaut. On paper. No idea what kind of campaigner he would be.

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-28 12:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

REDIAL

I'm leaning against Kelly because both he and his wife have vendetta that could be used against Harris in the general. But then money talks and his wife's gun control group just donated $15,000 to Harris which could also be used as a negative by the Trump campaign.

And I don't know if Kelly has the political juice to carry all of Arizona's 124 delegates.

Fron a practical standpoint, Pennsylvania's Gov. Josh Shapiro would seem like a better choice. #1 Pennsylvania is Joe Biden's home state and #2 Pennsylvania has 274 delegates.

I'm just thinking that Pennsylvania would have a more dependable electoral college vote than Arizona, a state that always seems to be involved in cutting throats.


#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-28 12:45 AM | Reply

" I'm just thinking that Pennsylvania would have a more dependable electoral college vote than Arizona"

Arizona has Reuben Gallego, who will crush Kari Lake. Most importantly, women's health on the ballot. That should push turnout enough to carry AZ.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-28 01:00 AM | Reply

I'm leaning against Kelly because both he and his wife have vendetta that could be used against Harris in the general.

Fair enough. That said, no VP candidate is is not going to have something they can slime Harris with.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-28 01:02 AM | Reply

I like Kelly. He takes a few of Trump's talking points away, his accomplishments tower over Vance, and he'll bring AZ. They can win the rest.
L

#15 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-07-28 01:40 AM | Reply

L as in L for typo.

#16 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-07-28 01:43 AM | Reply

I don't dislike Kelly. I think he's earned every accolade this country has to offer.
But he does have a bone to pick with the Republican Party and I wouldn't want that (and his wife's $15,000 contribution) be misinterpreted as a quid-pro-quo.

Harris' nomination and election to Office is going to be an enormous upheaval in American politics. Trump et al are already stroking out and digging deep for talking points. I see no reason to offer them any fuel for their fire.

Harris' nomination is a given. Unless the dynamic duo of Trump and Speaker Johnson push a campaign finance case against Harris that they'll take all the way to the Supreme Court to get Harris disqualified.

I'm just sayin' ~ Under all that exuberance, Harris has to tread carefully.

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-28 06:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Unless the dynamic duo of Trump and Speaker Johnson push a campaign finance case against Harris that they'll take all the way to the Supreme Court to get Harris disqualified.

There is no finance case to be made. Harris was on the ticket with Biden so she's entitled to replace him without penalty. Why do we have VP's in the first place? They're supposed to be ready at a moment's notice to constitutionally take over from the President should something happen to them - either intentionally or unintentionally. That whole line of garbage by Trump and Johnson are a non-starter, period.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-07-28 07:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TONY

Under normal circumstances, you'd be right. I seem to recall that the FEC rarely enforces a rule that requires a candidate to return donations if he is no longer a candidate. It could be argued that the Biden/HARRIS campaign entitled Harris to use the $91 Million remaining in the re-election coffers for her own campaign.

(Providing proof, of course, that she did use those funds. It's possible that she didn't)

At the same time, the dynamic duo of Trump/Johnson could argue that Harris received an unfair (and illegal per FEC rules) advantage over her opponent and therefore should be disqualified.

In your opinion, all things considered, which way do you think the U.S. Supreme Court would swing?

#19 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-28 08:08 AM | Reply

There is no legal mechanism to "disqualify" Kamala Harris from running for the presidency. The political parties set their rules for nomination, not the law. There is no Democratic nominee for President yet until the party has its convention vote in the coming days.

The only thing the FEC can rule on would be whether the money donated to Biden/Harris can be used by Harris to continue the campaign, now with her on top, instead of Biden. And that $91 million may be a moot point anyway. Over this last week Harris' ascension has brought HER campaign $200 million as of this morning, most from people making their first donations of this cycle. So she has the possibility of dwarfing the amount of money left over by soliciting new donations beyond that amount regardless of how the FEC sees the situation.

The argument over $91 million left over is nothing but another shiny object - there, but not really of earth-shattering importance - signifying not very much.

#20 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-07-28 08:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TONY

"The only thing the FEC can rule on would be whether the money donated to Biden/Harris can be used by Harris to continue the campaign, now with her on top, instead of Biden."

That's the basis of Johnson's threatened lawsuit. And, as I stipulated "with proof."

I'm just curious what you think the U.S. Supreme Court would do if or when faced with that kind of decision.

I know what I think they'd do but you're better informed ~ which is why I ask.


#21 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-28 09:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

No doubt a team of number crunchers are working on that 24/7.
#7 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

Wont mean a thing if the team is composed of the usual Dems. They'll go the complete wrong direction and convince themselves more progressivism is needed to win.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-28 11:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#22

IF they conclude that, they will be correct. I'm afraid they'll screw up and convince themselves that going with another center-right loser would be a good idea.

AOC would be a great choice.

#23 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-07-28 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

AOC would be a great choice.

#23 | Posted by DarkVader

She isn't old enough at 34. 35's the minimum age for a POTUS.

#24 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-07-28 02:09 PM | Reply

She isn't old enough at 34.

Her birthday is in October.

Two non-white women on the ticket would certainly bring out the torches and pitchforks.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-28 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Two non-white women

Unless the other one was.... Michelle!! lol

Trumper red capped hats would pop like pimples all over the country.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-28 02:42 PM | Reply

IF they conclude that, they will be correct. I'm afraid they'll screw up and convince themselves that going with another center-right loser would be a good idea.
AOC would be a great choice.

#23 | POSTED BY DARKVADER

I never pegged you as a parody account.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-28 03:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh he's been pegged alright.

#28 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-07-28 06:59 PM | Reply

Well just as Biden said..."you get knocked down you get back up".

He just kicked them in the knees on his way back up and surprisingly to them... he elevated his status by handing it to one better able to take on Trumpanzee's bluster. Actually what he did is as important to the democracy of this country as what George Washington did to start it.

People are living longer than ever in the last century alone. It's a test of the times.

Joe is leaving office a hero... Trumanzee left office in disgrace.

the most merciful thing we can do for Trump is not let him leave office in disgrace another time. The republic0wns need another 8 years to regroup and pull their collective heads out of their @$$e$.

#29 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-29 07:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

It's 100% common sense. Dems have been on the DEI train for so long now and done everything they can to convince all of America that the person better for every job is based off of their physical characteristics and not their knowledge and accomplishments, so it's absolutely common sense that those with weak minds who fall for Dem sheep herding are going to base their votes on the same criteria...which means the dichotomy of voters is going to switch when someone who checks all the DEI boxes becomes a candidate.

While it's not surprising, it is very, VERY disturbing that people actually do want to base who the leader of the free world is on physical characteristics. I mean, we've spent over 100 years to get rid of that mentality and Dems...much like when they were fighting for slavery...just can't move past it.

To be fair and a counter the Dems could and should use, the people who aren't part of the DEI topic (old, white men) haven't done a very good leadership job at all for many decades now so mixing it up isn't unwarranted. If we keep trying the same thing and getting the same results, it's our fault for giving up without trying something new. It's just unfortunate that Kamala is the one who is representing that when she is wholly unfit for the job. There are some other DEI Dems I'd choose over Kamala.

#30 | Posted by humtake at 2024-07-29 12:02 PM | Reply

"Joe is leaving office a hero... Trumanzee left office in disgrace."

And that's the problem with everything in America. You actually think Joe is a hero. He did worse, in some cases much worse, than Trump on all issues not related to internal social problems to label him a hero means you are ignoring everything bad and only focusing on the good. So, I guess every person in the world who is a serial killer just for fun can be a hero if they help an old lady across the street.

For anyone to call Biden or Trump a hero is a sign of how bad things have truly gotten.

#31 | Posted by humtake at 2024-07-29 12:05 PM | Reply

For anyone to call Biden or Trump a hero is a sign of how bad things have truly gotten.

#31 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

OK.

But everyone knows which one you'll vote for.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2024-07-29 12:48 PM | Reply

And that's the problem with everything in America. You actually think Joe is a hero. He did worse, in some cases much worse, than Trump on all issues not related to internal social problems to label him a hero means you are ignoring everything bad and only focusing on the good. So, I guess every person in the world who is a serial killer just for fun can be a hero if they help an old lady across the street.
For anyone to call Biden or Trump a hero is a sign of how bad things have truly gotten.

#31 | Posted by humtake

Trump inherits booming economy: "Trump is awesome!"

Biden inherits a recession and pandemic: "Biden sucks because he didn't immediately fix everything!"

#33 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-07-29 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The election hasn't been "upended" Trump is still ahead in polls. It's his to lose.

#34 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-07-29 01:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump is still ahead in polls.

#34 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Nope.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2024-07-29 01:52 PM | Reply

#30 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

This was supposed to be yet another election between three old white guys(including RFK Jr), but throw a woman of color into the mix and BOOM she must be a DEI hire according to Humtake.

God forbid any presidential election would be anything less than 100% older white male.

#36 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2024-07-29 01:55 PM | Reply

but throw a woman of color into the mix and BOOM she must be a DEI hire

You know what will be a DEI Hire? The straight white man that will inevitably be the VP choice.

#37 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-29 02:06 PM | Reply

"You actually think Joe is a hero. "

Because he is. Walking away from power for the good of America is George Washington level heroism.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-07-29 02:38 PM | Reply

Trump is still ahead in polls.

#34 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Yeah. Actually that's a true statement. Some polls. But not the majority of polls anymore. And there are still 3 months to go. Things are just not going your way anymore. Are we planning another insurrection yet? You better get on it. Before the gap widens too much and dementia sets in on your candidate.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-07-29 02:46 PM | Reply

www.realclearpolling.com

No. Trump is not ahead in the battle States. Except Wisconsin where he is up by one point, and fading.

And Harris just is getting stronger and stronger. Personally, I think Trump is going down in flames from the look of it. Trump may soon be wishing that bullet had given him an excuse to also drop out of the race. He hates losing, and every honest observer seems to agree that he is plunging.

#40 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-07-29 03:09 PM | Reply

For anyone to call Biden or Trump a hero is a sign of how bad things have truly gotten.

#31 | Posted by humtake at 2024-07-29 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag:PPFFTTTT

Oh please... George Washington was a slave owner and god knows what else in those days... you can be two things simultaneously.

get over yourself HUMP.

#41 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-29 04:23 PM | Reply

Y'all wouldn't be having this problem if Trumpanzee hadn't turned his people into political eunuchs and for the good of the country turned it over to someone younger and more vital. He's thinks he's it... the only one who can do it... and since he is who you're running... and you admired his style... apparently you think you need only one guy...

Seriously name one guy he didn't publicly denugget on your team. Every one of them bent over.

He's all you got... and you went for his okey doke.

#42 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-29 04:37 PM | Reply

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