Jesus is not God. He prayed to the Father God. The Christ is God, the only child of God is the Christ. Jesus was the Christ of the Piscean Age. The Christian Churches deliberately confuse people. Jesus was a man who became the Christ at the age of 30, when he was baptized and the dove landed on his head, and God spoke from the heavens and proclaimed that Jesus had been christed. His ministry lasted 3 years as the Christ. Christ is his title, which is a Greek word Kristos meaning the anointed one, or the Messiah. Other Christs in the Bible were Enoch, the Initiate and Melchezedich, also known as the Prince of Peace. The Christ manifests at the beginning of each age, we are now entering the Aquarian Age. @aquarianthunderproductions. Peace to all; good will to all. If you see the Son you will see the Father and the Mother God (The Holy Spirit) because they are One " The Trinity or the Triune God. But most people judge with their carnal eyes and do not know how to see with the eyes of soul and they are thus blind even though they can see. Et voila. He who has ears to hear and eyes to see and an understanding heart will understand the words that I speak.

Jehovah is Almighty God (The Father God).

John 1:45
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son ofJoseph.

Jehovah wrote upon the heavens and Moses read, I am Almighty God and you shall have no God but me.

Jesus is God...? Source please...? That is a lie.

God is not a man. Yes, we are all manifestations of God, we are all gods, but the devil also lurks inside man. There is only one Father God and that is Jehovah and Jehovah is the source of all and he is the judge not like men who are a mixed bag, man can do evil or good and will be judged for his words and deeds. Man is a thought of God. We are all individuals who must pass the 7 tests. You are trying to tell me that God is a man. That is not true. God is all. But I am not God, you are not God. Jehovah is Almighty God. You make big statements without a source. I believe in Jesus as he taught and he never said "I am God" or "you are God". That is blasphemy.

You said: "Then because you and everyone in the universe are manifestations of the Universe so you are also God and Jesus is also God."

That statement is something you came up with but where is your source for such a grand statement? Yes we are all manifestations of God but that does not mean that I am God or you are God. I think that is quite a stretch, and I do not have to agree with your statement even it makes sense to you in your understanding.

I need a real source, which you don't really have for the statement "Jesus is God", that is a made up Christian lie that Jesus himself never said.

So, I ask you to back up that one specific statement from a source so that I can decide if I want to agree with you on that. But as far as I can tell that statement is a lie and the other one (above quote) you just made up off the top of your head. If you are going to put words in God or Jesus's mouth, you better back them up or I will assume that you are simply repeating some Christian dogma or making up your own dogma.

You mix some truth in and then stretch it out according to your own understanding but in the end that is called dogma and not truth. Peace out..

"The problem starts when people force others to abide by their favorite volume of the mythology." I agree, but hidden amongst all the mythology is the truth which you cannot force people to believe. Jesus never tried to force anyone to believe his teachings.

But, if you believe that he was telling the truth, which I do, remember he was killed for expressing the truth, and then the Christian Churches (started by Paul who never walked with Jesus btw) twisted Jesus' truth into dogma and to this day continue to try to force people to accept their dogma as do most dogmatic religions.

But that does not mean that the truth does not exist and that you should throw the baby out with the bathwater. I think it means you have to dig deep into the teachings of the masters until you can finally discern the actual truth that you really need to know about when the great day of judgment comes.

Personally, it doesn't really matter to me one way or another if you believe the ministry of Jesus or Mohammed or whatever floats your boat. But on the judgment day if you don't know the language of the court (the truth) you will be lost and the judge will say "what is the truth about that?" and I would prefer to have the answer to whatever questions might be posed at that moment right on the tip of my tongue.

#20 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

That is interesting, but I have not read Alan Watts.

And I think the Vedas and Hindu and Buddhism and even Alan Watts all carry parts of the truth, again, I think you have to seek the truth by studying the masters, that is my personal belief, so, I am the source for that.

But, DONNERBOY, I had a specific question for you and only one and you did not answer it.

And that is the "Jesus is God" statement. I was asking you for the source for that specific statement, because I do not believe that is a true statement. Who told you that lie and why do you repeat it as if it is truth?

One question, one answer with one source, that is all I want to know... If you would be so kind as to indulge me on that one specific point. Thank you.

#22 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I call it blasphemy. Jesus never said that. No source. Jesus was the Christ, the Love of God made manifest. Jehovah is Almighty God. That is not math or my interpretation that is what is written in The Book.

Anyway, have a great Christmas...

First: I believe YAV is correct in his assessment of where the blasphemous statement that "Jesus is God" came from. I believe that statement to be a Christian lie. In fact the Christian Church itself was created by Paul in order to bring down the true followers of Jesus and those who understood Jesus' message. Paul (a Roman who changed his name from Saul) never walked with Jesus and disputed with Peter, James and John (Jesus' inner circle). Paul/Saul consented to the stoning of Stephen (a fervent believer in the philosophy of Christ) unto his death in front of the court house in Jerusalem for blasphemy. After that, the people turned away from Saul. And then Saul decided that in order to turn the people back on his side he needed a plan, so, he left Jerusalem and he said that he saw Jesus on the way to Damascus and that Jesus told him to stop fighting against him. That is when Saul changed his name to Paul and founded the Christian Church a bit later in Antioch around 37 AD. But he did not found the Christian Church with Peter, James and John who remained in Jerusalem and had already founded the Christine Church on the day of the Pentecost " which Saul was not a part of. Jesus told Peter to start the Church " not Paul. Anyway, the bottom line is that the Christian Church was the Roman solution to confusing the people about the true message Jesus had brought. The Romans ruthlessly persecuted anyone who understood the true message (especially if they proclaimed it in public) and allowed the alternative to prosper and grow under the new Pope and the Catholic Church. The greatest deception of all time " twisting the words of Jesus the Christ of Nazareth into a fairy tale and embarking on crusades to force people everywhere to convert to the newfound Roman religion. They started calling him Jesus Christ and used that name to convince the people to join but then quickly substituted Jesus' teachings with those of Paul " who wrote most of the New Testament starting around Chapter 3 of Acts or so. He even found a new Peter and... Well it's a long story and one that takes quite some insight to understand. For more information about how Jesus has already returned in the form of a book, you can check this out: @aquarianthunderproductions

Or: https://theaquariangospel.yolasite.com

Second: The contrast I see between Jesus and Mohammed is that Jesus came as a teacher and never tried to force anyone to believe his teachings " in fact he gave his life freely and allowed himself to be persecuted " but never turned to violence. Unfortunately, the Christian Church came along and used Jesus as a prop in order to carry out their fantasy of ruling the world through any means necessary " a very sad reality of the last 2000 years. My understanding about Mohammed is that he became sick and tired of this constant persecution of his Arabic brothers and sisters and decided to fight back. He stood up for his race and tried to give them a standing in a world dominated by ruthless warriors " including but not limited to the crusaders. He gave the Arabia a voice. He called Jesus a brother from a different mother (paraphrase). But by the time Mohammed came on the scene around 4-500 years after Jesus, the teachings of Jesus had already been extremely corrupted and back then it was much harder to sift through all the noise to get to the bottom of it all. There was no internet and the ruthless vultures were always circling around, so it is hard to judge " and it is not my job to judge the characters. You can be assured that all will be judged according to their character. I hope you all find the universal truths that Jesus portrayed especially on the Sermon on the Mount " for by these words shall we all be judged.

BTW, I am not sure why there are random quote marks that I did not add to my comments... Peace out.

Oh, I think were intended as dashes :)

#29 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Contrast Jesus and Mohammed if you would.

Just to be clear: The biggest contrast that I see is that Jesus did not even attempt to resort to violence whereas Mohammed did. But in the context of the times I think Mohammed felt that that was his only possibility to counter the other big actors who were ruthless in their persecutions.

I personally believe that violence is never justified even in dire circumstances - and I believe that was Jesus' main message. But that is a hard philosophy to live by and it requires humility.

I think most people in this world live by the philosophy of an eye for an eye, but as Gandhi said, that leaves the whole world blind.

I believe the biggest test of faith is to not seek revenge. For it is written that revenge belongs to God alone and in the end if you abstain from seeking revenge God will carry out the necessary revenge.

People are quick to judge and seek revenge because they lack faith in the end game - which is God's alone.

Jehovah is Almighty God and you shall have no God but Jehovah, that is written as the first Commandment. Those who seek the truth will not deviate from that truth - and will not teach otherwise.

My assessment is: The Christian Church is as fake as a rubber snake. It looks real on the outside but there is only deception on the inside.

There is no such person as Jesus Christ. Jesus the Christ is the man and his title (Jesus the Messiah), you would not call him Jesus Messiah.

It is like Edward the King (a specific person, the King of England at a certain point in history), but who is Edward King? Probably thousands of Edward Kings in any given phone book, but there is only one King Edward.

Jesus Christ is a way to lesson the power of his name and title. When you say Jesus the Christ, you give the name its power back. May God bless all truth seekers.

#35 | POSTED BY CALIFORNIASTEVE

"Probably thousands of Edward Kings in any given phone book, but there is only one King Edward."

Sorry, probably not thousands, but... several, or most likely more than one... Point is I am a truth seeker, I am willing to admit when I am wrong... But are you willing to admit when you know I'm right?

"So ... Are all the folks born before Christ languishing in hell for all eternity?"

There is no such thing as before Christ. Christ is infinite from the never ending past to the never ending future.

Christ is a Greek word Kristos which existed before Jesus. Christ is the God of Love. Jesus became the Christ at the age of 30 when he was christed.

But Jesus was not the only Christ to have lived. Jesus is the Christ of the Piscean Age.

Enoch was a Christ. Melchezedich was a Christ, known as the King of Salem, the King of peace.

Christ (The only son of God) manifests around every 2000 years or so.

The Christ is within you, that is what Jesus the Christ was trying to tell us. But first you must purify your heart with faith (the understanding of the words that Jesus spoke) then you will see the face of God and live.

Enoch spoke similar to Jesus.

Anyway, I know you guys don't understand what I am saying right now but you will eventually.

Jesus = Man; Christ = God of Love.

Jesus the Christ, the God/Man of the last age - the piscean age (the Age of Pisces).

We are now entering the Age of Aquarius, thus Christ will return, but no one knows the day or hour.

In order to understand how it works you need to separate Jesus from the Christ. Let's substitute Christ with King or Messiah, a title not a name.

So Almighty God (Jehovah) declares a new King (Christ/Messiah) every 2000-2600 years or so at the beginning of each new age. Jesus was the Christ/King of the last age which is now ending.

And at some point (no one knows the day or hour) Jehovah will declare a new Christ/King for the new age Aquarius (You know the song... This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius...? Right?)

Jesus said he would return, which he has already in the form of a book (The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ by Levi H. Dowling). That book is the story of the life of Jesus and how he was anointed by God (Jehovah) as the Christ/King of the age of Pisces.

But the new Christ/King of the new age of Aquarius has not yet been revealed. Many will try to claim that they are the new Christ, but don't pay them any mind because when the Christ/King of the new age arrives the whole world will know. That is something only God himself can proclaim - that is the day Jesus said we must be prepared for.

Peace to all, be prepared every moment of the day and night to receive the King. The wise will understand. The foolish will not understand and will not make it to the great feast.

Let's take a more familiar example.

President. We will go with Trump. Donald Trump was not president when he was born. He was just Donald John Trump. Then, at a certain time he was elected president by the people and became The President of The United States. After that he can always be referred to as Mr. President, even after his mandate is up. But you would not call him Donald President - that wouldn't make any sense - no such person exists.

Then, a new president is elected and he/she becomes the new president and will carry that title the rest of his/her life.

Jesus was born and known as Jesus of Nazareth because in those days they didn't have a last name or family name. He became the Christ at the age of 30 and then performed his 3-year ministry as the Christ on earth, he will never lose that title.

The Christ title will always belong to Jesus in the same way as the president title will always belong to any given president of the United States, but there is no such person as Jesus Christ, you can call him Christ Jesus or Jesus the Christ, just like you can say President Trump or Trump the 45th President of the United States - he will carry that title forever - no one can take it away.

Jesus is the Christ of the Age of Pisces and no one can change that. But now as we enter a new age, God will declare a new Christ for the new age who will expand on the teachings of Jesus the Christ of the previous age because humanity has grown and humanity needs a new Christ/President to carry it into the future.

I hope that clarifies my point. Love you all.

EVERYONE on Earth is going to hell, according to SOMEBODY's religion.

And those claiming no one gets to heaven but through Christ aren't referring to your generic messiah.

#56 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Yo, DANFORTH, calm down please with the hellfire and brimstone stuff...

Fulfilling the law of God is about treating others with respect as you yourself wish to be treated, because what goes around comes around.

If you sow confusion and hellfire, so shall you reap the same.

That is why I am not a Christian because the Christian Church is a brainwashing machine. It is the old bait and switch trick, they draw you in with the name Jesus Christ (a fake name) and then teach Paul (a Roman agent).

You pay for this but they give you that. Jesus was not a Christian, neither were his true followers. The Christian Church is a fake church.

#59 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Cal,

Do you believe Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead as stated in the Bible? Yes

Bill,

Just because I say the Christian Churches are false does not mean that I don't believe Jesus is the Messiah... Jesus is The Christ.

I am trying to tell you that Jesus is real and The Christ is real, but not as it is taught by the Christian Church.

Jesus rose from the dead.

The Christian Church is a product of Rome, so they deliberately confuse the message. I am not a Christian because I do not accept the teachings of Paul over Jesus, some of the things Paul said are true and some are not.

Christians follow the teachings of Paul not Jesus in general.

Bill,

Because of you I have had a big revelation about the difference between Jesus and Mohammed. But I won't explain it unless you want me to.

I believe in Jesus brother. Peace to you.

None of you all seem to be following my points so I will shut up about it. For now.

I guess y'all just think I'm a crazy nut.

But I have been studying religion and spirituality most of my life and I am sure about certain things
and I am willing to accept that I am not necessarily able to explain my points clearly enough for any of you to understand.

I don't mean any harm to anyone. I send you all forever blessings in the name of Jesus the Christ, and I hope none of you go to hell forever or anything like that.