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Tuesday, March 04, 2025

The recent actions at the U.S. Social Security Administration by Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency are putting monthly benefit checks for more than 72.5 million Americans at risk, former commissioner and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley told CNBC.com.

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Elon Musk called Social Security a "ponzi scheme." This is absolute rubbish. Social Security has paid every benefit owed to every eligible American for 85 years. Perhaps the bigger "ponzi scheme" is the $38 billion spent by taxpayers to prop up his corporations?

-- Robert Reich (@rbreich.bsky.social) March 2, 2025 at 4:01 PM

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'Ahead of any interruption in benefits "people should start saving now"'

Truly, a Trump Golden Age.

Hey, ROBSON---The recipe for Depression Meat Loaf is:

One can dog food

One bottle ketchup

Three ounces styrofoam.

Hope that dog food isn't already out of your reach.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-03 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Hope that dog food isn't already out of your reach.

POSTED BY ZED

Just the good Top Shelf stuff.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 02:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Musk and Bezos need the cash for their intergalactic penis ships so at least it's for a good cause.

#3 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-03 03:03 PM | Reply

re: #3 Censored

Or to correct their botched penis implants? bsky.app

#4 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-03 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh I missed thread.

Just posted another one because it's a pretty significant change in what was "promised".

But in the other hand falls right in line with what was proposed by project 2025. Tho most of the Plan was hidden from the public.

Leadership fails to propose any solutions for Social Security and says, on page 710, that its proposals for the program could not be "covered here in depth." Notably, that line was co-authored by economist Stephen Moore, who has advocated to slash and privatize Social Security, once calling it a "Ponzi scheme" and encouraging students to burn their Social Security cards. Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation, has also gone on record to say the Mandate for Leadership manifesto is just the basis of their plan and "there are parts of the plan that we will not share with the left." Last month, his organization called for raising the retirement age, and the author of that analysis, Rachel Greszler, is listed as a Project 2025 contributor.

Now they are comfortable enough to release the rest of their plan which is to send Elmo in to destroy and push what's left of SS (and grandma) off the cliff.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

- (and grandma) off the cliff.

Nothing much has changed... they just never had a proper Cult Leader before.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 03:43 PM | Reply

My choice of headline was:

SS could collapse in 30-90 days under Trump assault

Because that is what governor Martin O'Mallley has said already.

"Ultimately, you're going to see the system collapse and an interruption of benefits," O'Malley said. "I believe you will see that within the next 30 to 90 days." Ahead of any interruption in benefits, "people should start saving now," O'Malley said.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People that survive only on social security cannot save money
and they depend on social security because they couldn't save in the first place. So now they are supposed to magically start being able to somehow save money in their old age?

Yup. We are doomed.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Not to worry, Herr Musk is building a place in Texas for all the Seniors who can't afford to live without the SS they paid into their whole working lives.

It's called the Senior's Soylent Green Acres Retirement Community.

Tasty!

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 03:58 PM | Reply

The first SS check doesn't come for grandma and people will be rioting in the streets.

---- you, elon.

#10 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-03 03:59 PM | Reply

Herr Musk

Herr Pluggs.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-03 03:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

"there are parts of the plan that we will not share with the left."

No, there were parts of the plan that they wouldn't share with the American people, because they knew if they did, Trump wouldn't have won re-election.

"People that survive only on social security cannot save money"

They will have to cut back on nonessentials as much as possible (no new clothes, e.g.) and cut down on essentials as much as possible (lots of rice and beans, etc.).

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 04:03 PM | Reply

This all part of the GOP's plan to make people turn against government services like Social Security and Medicare that folks have relied on for decades:

"The American public needs to understand that one of their major social safety nets is in dire jeopardy," said Jill Hornick, a union official at the American Federation of Government Employees Local 1395, which primarily represents Social Security offices in Illinois.

"It'll take a while for the effects to be felt, but they're coming," Hornick said, predicting what will happen to Social Security is going to be "far worse" than the planned cuts to Medicaid.

For people who are already receiving Social Security benefits, most of that is automated and may not be affected, she said. However, processing new claims " whether it be for retirement or disability benefits --may take longer since those cannot be processed without Social Security employees, Hornick said.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 04:07 PM | Reply

------- magat scum! You happy now?!?

I told you so.

The one small silver lining to this pile of ---- is that magat scum seniors who receive social security will starve to death. Let's all point and laugh at the emaciated magat scum!

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-03 04:14 PM | Reply

FWIW reality will start hitting this friday when the first real ------- 2.0 unemployment numbers hit.

What do you think will be the impact on unemployment with the firing of 10s of thousands of federal workers and the cancelling of countless contracts?

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-03 04:17 PM | Reply

not just a hoax.....but a ------- lie.

#16 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-03-03 04:23 PM | Reply

care tactic to scare little old ladies..

and a ------- lie.

#17 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-03-03 04:24 PM | Reply

As the ramifications of Trump's actions on the economy through DOGE cuts, the GOP budget, Trump's tariffs, etc. are felt by voters throughout the country, it will be harder for Trump, Musk and the Republicans in Congress to lie about what they are doing and about the pain and havoc they are causing. If you lose your Medicaid benefit, the price of cars goes up thousand of dollars, you can't get your Social Security processed or the IRS to answer your tax questions, the price of groceries continues to rise, etc., people will know it.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

If the Social Security office in your area closes, you will know it:

5 Social Security offices in Georgia to close | What we know
www.11alive.com

Elon Musk's DOGE website lists Nashville Social Security office among cuts
www.newschannel5.com

The Tennessee Holler
@thetnholler.bsky.social
Trump, Musk and Doge shuttering Social Security offices means longer lines and some not getting their benefits.

A fact-sheet: bsky.app

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 04:32 PM | Reply

Trump, Musk and Doge shuttering Social Security offices means longer lines and some not getting their benefits.

A fact-sheet: bsky.app

POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

If you haven't gotten any SS benefits yet it's quite possible now that you never will.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 04:37 PM | Reply

DOGE v. Safety Net UPDATE: February 28, 2025

The Trump administration, through Elon Musk's DOGE, is moving to slash up to 50% of the Social Security Administration's (SSA) workforce"a move that could bring the agency's ability to process benefits to a standstill. This is a direct assault on Social Security, targeting the very infrastructure that ensures payments reach 72.5 million retirees, disabled individuals, and survivors each month.

Key Developments:

Mass Layoffs Imminent--Acting SSA Commissioner Leland Dudek has ordered agency managers to prepare for mass workforce reductions, with up to 30,000 employees set to be fired.

Offices Set to Close Nationwide--With fewer staff, hundreds of SSA field offices are expected to shut down, making it harder for Americans to apply for or manage their benefits.

Deliberate Chaos as a Strategy--DOGE's goal is not to streamline' Social Security--it's to cripple it, creating delays and dysfunction so that Republicans can later argue the program is broken and push for privatization.

Federal Judge Blocks Some Firings--A recent court ruling temporarily halted the mass firing of probationary federal employees, citing concerns over due process and legality. However, this does not stop broader agency downsizing.

Consequences:

Longer Wait Times for Benefits--SSA is already struggling with backlogs. With half its workforce gone, waiting months--or even years"for Social Security benefits could become the norm.

Massive Economic Disruption--Social Security pumps $1.4 trillion into the economy each year. If processing slows or payments are delayed, millions of seniors, disabled individuals, and families could face financial ruin.

Gutting SSA to Justify Privatization--This is a calculated sabotage of one of the most popular government programs in U.S. history. By crippling its ability to function, Trump and Musk's endgame is to push for privatization"handing Social Security over to Wall Street.

The Bottom Line: This isn't about efficiencyit's about dismantling Social Security from the inside. By making the program unworkable, Trump's administration is laying the groundwork to gut it entirely. Millions of Americans who paid into Social Security their entire lives now stand to lose the benefits they earned.


#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 04:41 PM | Reply

people will know it.

#18 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Unfortunately by the time the "people" finally really "know it" then it will be too late.

It may take decades (if ever) to undo the damage King Trumpy is doing to the country.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 04:47 PM | Reply

This is Trump treating Americans like they are Zelensky.... Americans are not giving him enough respect and gratitude.

Which is what the Mob Boss always demands.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 04:48 PM | Reply

Deliberate Chaos as a Strategy--DOGE's goal is not to streamline' Social Security--it's to cripple it, creating delays and dysfunction so that Republicans can later argue the program is broken and push for privatization.

And then they will say "see? we told you it was broken and would fail!"

The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 04:50 PM | Reply

"Social Security pumps $1.4 trillion into the economy each year"

I'm no economist, but, ummm, wouldn't messing with that have a big impact on the economy?

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-03 04:51 PM | Reply

If you haven't gotten any SS benefits yet it's quite possible now that you never will.
Posted by donnerboy

People need to speak up, protest, push back NOW:

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar.com
Mike Lawler: "I've been very clear: I will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid."

(Bookmark this one.)

bsky.app

Mike Lawler in a NY Republican in one of those swing districts that gave Republicans the House in 2022. He knows damn well he will lose re-election if he goes along with the GOP's plans to cut those programs, and he is not alone. There are other vulnerable Republicans in swing districts who will lose their seats in 2025 if they continue to support the DOGE hatchet cuts and the House GOP's proposed budget.

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 04:52 PM | Reply

#24 | Posted by donnerboy

Yes, they are breaking the federal government, and then they are going to say, "See, we told you it was broken." Precisely.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But more rich people tax cuts, no problem.

#28 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-03-03 04:59 PM | Reply

2 years from now will be way too late!!!!

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-03 05:00 PM | Reply

Yes, they are breaking the federal government, and then they are going to say, "See, we told you it was broken." Precisely.

#27 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Yup. That's obviously The Plan.

The Plan

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 05:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yes, time is of the essence. Get this information out there to every senior you know, everyone who will soon be a senior and everyone who has a parent who follows into one of those two groups and who will have to support their parents if social security is disrupted:

Elon Musk is Dismantling Social Security
(Washington, DC) " The following is a statement from Nancy Altman, President of Social Security Works:

"Elon Musk slandered Social Security over the weekend by calling the vital and beloved program a criminal Ponzi scheme, the same lie Donald Trump used before he decided to run for president. Musk's comment is no surprise, given his recent actions to begin the wholesale dismantling of our Social Security system.

socialsecurityworks.org

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The public is going to suffer terribly as a result of this," the source wrote to NPR. "Local field offices will close, hold times will increase, and people will be sicker, hungry, or die when checks don't arrive or a disability hearing is delayed just one month too late."

Repug filth did this.

#32 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-03 05:11 PM | Reply

The Social Security Administration is cutting 7,000 jobs and closing half of its regional offices. It's no coincidence that Elon Musk called Social Security a "ponzi scheme." They're gutting the program to make room for more billionaire tax cuts. It's time to speak up.

~ Robert Reich

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 05:12 PM | Reply

Remember magat scum this is what you voted for

This is what we warned you about

You magat scum refused to listen

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-03 05:13 PM | Reply

It's time to speak up.

~ Robert Reich

The time to "speak up" was Tuesday, November 5th 2024.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 05:18 PM | Reply

"there are parts of the plan that we will not share with the left."

Let me guess: THE MATH PARTS!

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-03 05:52 PM | Reply

The time to "speak up" was Tuesday, November 5th 2024.
#35 | Posted by donnerboy

You're preaching to the choir.

#37 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-03 05:55 PM | Reply

not just a hoax.....but a ------- lie.

#16 | Posted by shrimptacodan

STFU idiot.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-03 05:55 PM | Reply

Then we'll be in for an avalanche of 'but I didn't think his policies would affect meeeeeee' type stories.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-03 05:56 PM | Reply

#39

Yeah, hopefully one day Trump voters will be as scarce as GW voters became during his Recession.

Which was the greatest disappearing act in political voter history. Although similar to their idols, the original America Firsters, aka Fascists. (look up the definition of that word, Trumpers)

Trump's Recession may be even worse than his. And Covids.

(Unless he's the AC; then things will go merrily for him and us for a few years. Then not so much.)

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 06:02 PM | Reply

Every good Republican plan needs a Pearl Harbor Level Event!

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-03 06:50 PM | Reply

Inflation is here and tariffs and other policies will increase inflation
Slowing GDP
Some version of austerity by reducing government employees (though not spending interesting enough), so it is just downstream effects
Increasing unemployment

Playing with fire, asking for recession.

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-03 07:05 PM | Reply

- a Pearl Harbor Level Event!

Or a Reichstag fire.

www.google.com

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 07:08 PM | Reply

It is a ponzi scheme after all.

Had to happen one day.

Sucks if you paid into it and are getting hosed.
But it's wonderful if you're a government employee, avoiding the tax retiring earl, and joining a lobbyist.

Let the good times roll!

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-03 07:40 PM | Reply

How long before the bank runs start thanks to the-------------?

#45 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-03 07:43 PM | Reply

--------------?

He's busy making sure we are the Ponzi Scheme, erm, I mean, Cryptocurrency Capitol of the World.

Which means the taxpayer is now going to basically insure it's losses.

You can do it at places like this already:

koinly.io

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 08:01 PM | Reply

It is a ponzi scheme after all.

#44 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

No, it's not, dips%^*.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-03 08:26 PM | Reply

I'm pretty sure he doesn't know what "Ponzi scheme" means.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-03 08:37 PM | Reply

" It is a ponzi scheme after all."

Tell me you don't understand actual math, without using those specific words.

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-03 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#49

W' b d'ng shj de shxu.

www.google.com

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 09:22 PM | Reply

hoax....A hoax (plural: hoaxes) is a widely publicised falsehood created to deceive its audience with false and often astonishing information, with the either malicious or humorous intent of causing shock and interest in as many people as possible. "

some areas of normalcy and rational people know it as a lie.

#51 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-03-04 10:10 AM | Reply

hoax

#51 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

The Social Security office in my city was closed.

Want me to show it to you?

This whole thing is so utterly beyond your ability to give a flying f----.

#52 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-04 10:35 AM | Reply

"The Social Security office in my city was closed."

So was the one in mine.

#53 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-04 10:47 AM | Reply

#53 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

What's the point of a mass closing of Social Security offices except the deliberate terrorization of old and sick people?

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-04 11:00 AM | Reply

Here is a list of Social Secruty office closings:

A glut of cuts have taken already place across the country. Alabama has been hit especially hard, which officials are calling "devastating." Offices inAnniston, Cullman, Gadsden, and Jasper, Alabamaare alreadyconfirmedto have closed. Five Georgia offices are set for closure inBrunswick, Columbus, Gainesville, Thomasville, and Vidalia.The Grenada, Greenwood, and Meridian, Mississippi SSA offices are also scheduled to close. The Franklin, North Carolina office has been closed, while the Roanoke Rapids, North Carolina is scheduled to close, along with the Greenwood, South Carolina office. The Nashville, Tennessee,Rockford, Illinois, andMelbourne, Florida offices have all also been closed.

The Columbus, Ohio office moved to a different federal space, although many of the city's federal buildings are currently in DOGE's sights. Meanwhile,service reductions are planned for the Poughkeepsieand White Plains, New York offices, which has been met with backlash by local officials. DOGE also lists a variety of Arkansas offices as "agency approved lease termination" targets: Forrest City, Jonesboro, and Texarkana. Similar language is used on the DOGE site to describe SSA offices in Houma, Louisiana, Elizabeth City and Greenville, North Carolina, Lawton, Oklahoma, Abilene, Texas and Victoria, Texas. The Nacogdoches, Texas office is closing, however local news outlets say that has less to do with DOGE and more to do with a planned move spanning 15 years.

Per the DOGE website, the following Social Security office closures are currently being negotiated: Grand Junction, Colorado; Kalispell and Missoula, Montana; Minot, North Dakota; Rock Springs, Wyoming; and Horseheads, New York.


Read More:
www.moneydigest.com

#55 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-04 11:27 AM | Reply

"Here is a list of Social Secruty office closings:"

Let's not forget: ALL OF THIS is being done to justify MASSIVE NEW BORROWING to give away in tax cuts to the world's wealthiest one-tenth of one percent.

Basically, they want to renew the equation that GIVES 60% OF THE COST OF THE TAX CUTS to billionaires. Whatever they're trying to cut? Their plan is to borrow MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH as they're cutting
.
In the big equation, they're giving away MORE than ALL THE CUTS, COMBINED AND DOUBLED.

And keep in mind: they've "saved" less than $10 Billion, out of (at least) $1 Trillion.

ACCORDING TO MATH, THEY'RE ONLY 1% THROUGH WITH THEIR DESTRUCTION.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-04 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What's the point of a mass closing of Social Security offices except the deliberate terrorization of old and sick people?
#54 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-04 11:

Here's how the Social Security Office being closed will affect people in this area:

NY AG on Social Security closure: 'It is simply unconscionable'

In a letter to the SSA acting commissioner, James said, "Recent reports show that currently, without the devastating impact of this reported closure, the White Plains office has a roughly 2,000-case backlog and that redetermination hearings come with an eight-month wait. It is simply unconscionable to strip away the services altogether rather than trying to fix an already challenging situation."

www.poughkeepsiejournal.com

#57 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-04 11:42 AM | Reply

- simply unconscionable

An apt description of this entire Presidency so far... and for the foreseeable future.

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-04 11:45 AM | Reply

"Let's not forget: ALL OF THIS is being done to justify MASSIVE NEW BORROWING to give away in tax cuts to the world's wealthiest one-tenth of one percent."

Check out this cartoon's depiction of the situation:

bsky.app

#59 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-04 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#59

Oh my God.

Frightening, and true.

#60 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-04 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The time to "speak up" was Tuesday, November 5th 2024.
#35 | Posted by donnerboy

You're preaching to the choir.

#37 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Yeah I know. But elections matter. And they seem to matter more and more as our technology gets turned against us.

I bet most of the Dems who show up here knew exactly what was happening and spoke out and voted against Trump.

But most of American voters obviously did not. Especially low info voters who really don't follow politics.

However, Democrats did try to warn Americans. You can argue that it was not forceful enough or maybe too over the top.

Beverly called it hyperventilating or hysteria. But regardless the Democrats did warn us. And apparently they were not exaggerating.

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-04 01:26 PM | Reply

When our elected officials voted to raid the SS trust fund, SS became a literal ponzi scheme, that is the recipients are paid out with deposits of the new investors.

#62 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-04 01:57 PM | Reply

#62 | Posted by itchypossum

You and Elon don't know what the ---- you're talking about.

Swallow it.

#63 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-03-04 01:59 PM | Reply

The Social Security Trust Fund has been operating the same way since it was created in 1939. The idea that the government has raided the Trust Fund is based on a misunderstanding (Trump and Republican and maga lies) of how the program is financed.

The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

www.ssa.gov

But if you want the truth you better be quick about it though as this information could disappear at any second.

#64 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-04 02:07 PM | Reply

"When our elected officials voted to raid the SS trust fund, SS became a literal ponzi scheme"

Just admit you don't understand the definition, and call it a day.

Adding one point to both the employer's side and employee's side for payroll taxes puts SS into balance for 75 years. That IS NOT a Ponzi scheme. It's an equilibrium equation, out of balance.

It was actually a surplus after Reagan changed the rates. But we knew back then the system would go underwater somewhere around 2010, due to the baby boomers' retirement...something we literally saw coming a half-century in advance.

#65 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-04 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"When our elected officials voted to raid the SS trust fund, SS became a literal ponzi scheme"

Which political party took Social Security from the independent trust fund and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

The social security revenue and expenses were included in the "unified budget" beginning in 1968 until they were removed from the unified budget in 1990.

#66 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-04 03:01 PM | Reply

ACCORDING TO MATH, THEY'RE ONLY 1% THROUGH WITH THEIR DESTRUCTION.

Gutting medicaid will get it.

All them rural -------- that rely on it will find out that BILLIONAIRES DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES.

#67 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-04 03:03 PM | Reply

Kill the rich! Kill em all! Between the ignorance of the gullible Trumpets and the greed of the oligarchs, the sky IS falling and the prosperous American we know is being usurped by the 0.1 percent.

#68 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-03-04 04:43 PM | Reply

And now we know why they are closing so many Social Security offices: it's the first step toward outsourcing/priviatizing the operations:

Sam Stein
@samsteindc.bsky.social

NEW: In an email obtained by The Bulwark, the acting Social Security administrator made clear they're going to outsource-privatize operations. The expectation is it will be the call centers that seniors depend on.

Elon Is Coming for Your Social Security

www.thebulwark.com

#69 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-04 05:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How many does it take to push the button to start the direct deposit processing job?

#70 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-04 05:59 PM | Reply

#70

Several, as they are already starved of tech by greedy rwing Congress critters who would rather cut the Peoples programs than tell their Billionaire Bosses they can't have yet another big tax cut.

That's why Oligarchs own Congress and the Pres.... and now the SC... because they have bought them outright with campaign dollars that are designated Free Speech.

Which used to be a Federal Crime. Several Federal Crimes.

So Thanks again, Trumpers, you did this.

#71 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-04 06:16 PM | Reply

That's a lot in only three weeks.

#72 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-04 07:07 PM | Reply

You must be proud....

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-04 07:13 PM | Reply

"How many does it take to push the button to start the direct deposit processing job?"

When you go asking questions like that, you should have a right amount to spend, to support and maintain it.

Social Security paid out $1.23 trillion dollars to Americans in 2022.
$1.35 trillion in 2023.
Roughly one in five Americans gets a Social Security check.

How much should it cost to run all that?
You can't say.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-04 07:38 PM | Reply

Almost no one gets a check. It's almost totally direct deposit. Just push a button. A keyboard macro could replace whole floors of workers.

#75 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 01:50 AM | Reply

It seems I've commited the unforgivable crime of becoming old in a society that no longer cares about maintaining the safety net created for the elderly almost a century ago. Cessation of my monthly SS disbursement would be way more than a inconvenience for me, as well as untold millions of other recipients, many of whom believed TrumpCo's pie-in-the-sky horse manure enough to vote for him. "A keyboard macro could replace whole floors of workers." Soulless.

#76 | Posted by dutch46 at 2025-03-05 05:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do they really face disruption, or just more dem fear-mongering...

#77 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-03-05 11:46 AM | Reply

Less money wasted means more money is available for Social Security's intended purpose.

#78 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 11:47 AM | Reply

Less money wasted means more money is available for Social Security's intended purpose DOGE's Vunderkind's six figure salaries. .

#79 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 11:53 AM | Reply

Do they really face disruption

I guarantee it. Which, of course, is the Plan. If you are not getting SS now you may never get it. You know all that money you were forced to pay into SS? Well.. Kiss it goodbye.

Already, the Social Security Administration (SSA) has a backlog of claims on track to exceed 2 million beneficiaries, even if current staffing levels remain flat. Shortages in trained staff in recent years have increased the number of pending claims, increasing wait times. On average, applicants for SSDI and SSI disability benefits currently wait seven months for an initial eligibility determination, twice the prepandemic wait time.

#80 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 12:00 PM | Reply

I wonder what the results will be when 20 million people stop receiving their Social Security payments.

Looks like we're going to find out.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-05 12:06 PM | Reply

20 million? Sorry. Not sure where I got that number from.

In February 2024, about 67 million people in the United States received Social Security benefits, which is about 1 in every 5 residents. This includes: Retired workers and their dependents, Disabled workers and their dependents, and Survivors.

Additional Social Security statistics:

In 2023, 71.6 million people received Social Security benefits.

In 2023, 5.8 million people were newly awarded Social Security benefits.

In 2023, 55% of adult Social Security beneficiaries were women.

Social Security is the largest federal program in the United States.

Social Security benefits account for about half of all income for households headed by adults ages 62 and older.

Social Security also provides life insurance and disability insurance protection.

Social Security is more than just a retirement program. It also provides important financial support to people with disabilities, and their spouses, dependents, and survivors

-google ai

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-05 12:09 PM | Reply

There is waste fraud and abuse in government spending. The vast sums that have been added to spending in the last several years are rife with it. Rooting out the corruption will be a messy process. Biden/Harris never spoke about it and were not planning to do anything about it. Should we continue to waste money we don't have?

#83 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 12:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There is waste fraud and abuse in government spending.

#83 | POSTED BY VISITOR

As a slogan to justify Trump's reign of terror on old and sick people---

That really sucks.

#84 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:23 PM | Reply

"There is waste fraud and abuse in government spending."

It's "Trumpy's America" now and co-president Elon has grabbed America by the you-know-what ... so I would guarangodamntee it.

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 12:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rooting out the corruption will be a messy process.

#83 | POSTED BY VISITOR

You mean to say destructive process.

Ever wonder why people like you can't do anything without destroying it?

#86 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:24 PM | Reply

Visitor_

Go learn some facts. Provide some citation to your claims.

Do you know anyone who collects social security. Because they're gonna be hurting if they stop receiving them.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-05 12:24 PM | Reply

#83

NO!

We should hire an interest-conflicted Gov Contractor who happens to have given the Pres $300 million dollars, who has gotten $40 billion in Contracts, Loans, and tax breaks from the Gov... and who is now in a position superior to his competitors (like Verizon) to take over their Contracts (like the FAA).

Not to mention that he salutes Nazis in Germany while being the the Main Speaker at their biggest meeting. But hey, that's a Big Plus for Trumpublicans these days.

#88 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-05 12:25 PM | Reply

Should we continue to waste money we don't have?

#83 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

I dunno.

What money do your and your family get from the government?

Tell us and we'll see.

#89 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:27 PM | Reply

It takes a special type of stupid to believe billionaires care about your family.

#90 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-05 12:30 PM | Reply

What money do your and your family get from the government?

#89 | POSTED BY ZED

That includes pensions, VA services, tax breaks, and subsidies, you sly dog.

I don't know any reason why you, personally, should not be a victim of your "messy process".

#91 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:33 PM | Reply

"Should we continue to waste money we don't have?"

Duuuuude. We're borrowing MORE so we can waste it on tax cuts for billionaires.

Whatever "waste" they're pimping...multiply that by 5, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO BORROW.

But I get it: you're not for wasting money we don't have.

How are you about GIVING AWAY MONEY we don't have?

#92 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-05 12:33 PM | Reply

#83 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

I'm waiting for an account of all the monies you get directly and indirectly from the US government.

You don't want to be a dishonest participant in this discussion, do you?

#93 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#83 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Come on. No need to be shy.

If you have ever and always lifted yourself up by bootstraps, be loud and proud.

Just say that.

#94 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:43 PM | Reply

You don't want to be a dishonest participant in this discussion, do you?

#93 | POSTED BY ZED

I wouldn't call his trolling "participating".

#95 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 12:46 PM | Reply

I wouldn't call his trolling "participating".

#95 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I just think it's interesting that he's too ashamed to even lie to me about it.

#96 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Directly nothing. Indirectly, roads, schools, police etc.

#97 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 12:52 PM | Reply

"Almost no one gets a check. It's almost totally direct deposit. Just push a button. A keyboard macro could replace whole floors of workers."

So you think they have whole floors of workers that are writing checks by hand or something?

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 12:57 PM | Reply

Directly nothing.

#97 | POSTED BY VISITOR

There you go.

Not hard to lie, is it?

#99 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 12:58 PM | Reply

"Rooting out the corruption will be a messy process."

Always nice to hear from the voice of experience.
Tell us about the times you've rooted out corruption, and why it had to be so messy.

Fact is, you never did anything with your life, except be sad and angry.

#100 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 12:58 PM | Reply

#98 No I don't. But you'd get that impression by the end of the world rhetoric over laying off a few dozen workers.

#101 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 12:59 PM | Reply

#97 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT

You planning to forgo that whole Social Security and ACA thing, my man?

#102 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 01:00 PM | Reply

"laying off a few dozen workers."

Meanwhile, back in reality:
"The Social Security Administration says it plans to cut some 7,000 jobs"
www.npr.org

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:02 PM | Reply

No response?

Good. Let's keep it that way.

#104 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:06 PM | Reply

the end of the world rhetoric over laying off a few dozen workers.

#101 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Gotta love that republican math!

Trumpy's "plan" calls for more than a "few dozen" you lying POS.

Trump administration plans to cut 80,000 employees from Veterans Affairs, according to AP report

That's just one agency.

And btw. If you had a family and a mortgage and a car payment and healthcare costs and you suddenly lost your income for no reason and due to no fault of your own and completely with no warning it would be the end of your world as you previously knew it.

So you can GFY with your republican math. you traitorous hateful uncaring unAmerican POS.

#105 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 01:09 PM | Reply

A 10-12% reduction in SS workforce doesn't seem to be too drastic given all the advances in technology over the last 75 years.

#106 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 01:11 PM | Reply

"A 10-12% reduction in SS workforce doesn't seem to be too drastic given all the advances in technology over the last 75 years."

Based on what? Because a guy who has done nothing with his life says so?

#107 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:12 PM | Reply

No response?

Good. Let's keep it that way.

#104 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No worries. He will respond. With another lie generated by GROK or the Internet Research Agency.

#108 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 01:13 PM | Reply

Tell us about the times you downsized a workforce ten or twelve percent, and the challenges it presented.

You haven't done jack, Jack.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:13 PM | Reply

Veteran affairs had to staff up to take of the needs of the WWII generation as they aged. They're all gone along with the Korean and many of the Vietnam era veterans. It's reasonable in most industries to staff up and then staff back down with demand. No reason keep these people idle waiting for the Gulf War I and II generations to need additional aid.

#110 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 01:15 PM | Reply

"A 10-12% reduction in SS workforce"

That's the very bottom of the range.

But you're okay if they fire 50% of the workforce too.

WASHINGTON (AP) " The Social Security Administration is preparing to lay off at least 7,000 people from its workforce of 60,000, according to a person familiar with the agency's plans who is not authorized to speak publicly. The workforce reduction, according to a second person who also spoke on the condition of anonymity, could be as high as 50%. apnews.com

#111 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:16 PM | Reply

A 10-12% reduction in SS workforce doesn't seem to be too drastic given all the advances in technology over the last 75 years.

#106 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

So your plan is to replace American workers with AI?

Because our technology is more important than people in your mind? Our technology is not going to save us from ourselves.

Anyway. Great plan. The Singularity just got nearer.

#112 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 01:16 PM | Reply

Do you realize you are arguing for your own taxes to be wasted?

#113 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 01:18 PM | Reply

"It's reasonable in most industries to staff up and then staff back down with demand."

Is demand for Social Security increased, or decreased these days?

"More Americans are expected to turn 65 through 2027 than in any time in history."
www.cnbc.com

You're an incredibly stupid person.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So your plan is to replace American workers with AI?

Learn to code!


Do you realize you are arguing for your own taxes to be wasted?
#113 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

They aren't his taxes, the money wasted are his grand children's problem, if he/she has any.

#115 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-05 01:20 PM | Reply

Congress f**** with Social Security there's no gated community in the country with a Force sufficient to hold back the mob it will tear apart the homes of the jerks who did this.

#116 | Posted by Tor at 2025-03-05 01:22 PM | Reply

Is demand for Social Security increased, or decreased these days?

Demand for what? The increase users, could be ameliorated by an increase spending in technology.

Which I believe the poster mentioned, and you ignored.


You're an incredibly stupid person.
#114 | POSTED BY SNOOFY A

You aren't so bright either skippy.

#117 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-05 01:22 PM | Reply

As of June 2024, the VA claims backlog was around 249,587 cases. This is a decrease from the backlog's peak of 417,855 in January 2024. The VA is working to reduce the backlog and process claims in a timely manner.

How is the backlog managed? Hiring more claims processing employees, Processing some parts of claims faster than others, and Granting benefits at higher rates.

How does vistard think we should manage that backlog?

Fire 80,000 VA employees. Because many them Suckers and Losers are old now and dying so they don't need it.

There really is no sense discussing important issues like this with idiots.

We are gonna just have to let them FAFO.

#118 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 01:23 PM | Reply


Congress f**** with Social Security there's no gated community in the country with a Force sufficient to hold back the mob it will tear apart the homes of the jerks who did this.
#116 | POSTED BY TOR

What did they "do"? Did it affect those lazy Boomers ?

#119 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-05 01:23 PM | Reply

The VA is working to reduce the backlog and process claims in a timely manner.

Seems reasonable.

I am not sure, I really like the VA idea, but you aren't painting a good picture for socialized medicine.

#120 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-05 01:25 PM | Reply

"Fire 80,000 VA employees"

We shouldn't be spending any money on veterans. They're like women after menopause. They have outlived their usefulness to the State.
Cut the dead weight.

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:27 PM | Reply

Snoof you're an evil genius LOL

That last post of yours I'm going to have to replicate just to piss off all the right people LOL

#122 | Posted by Tor at 2025-03-05 01:32 PM | Reply

- all the advances in technology over the last 75 years.

Civil Servants are typically among the last to get new tech in their offices, as that would cost money that is better served as Tax Cuts to people who don't need them... plus it would make them more efficient... thereby removing Rwing Talking Points about how poorly they function.

It's like Visitor is playing one dimensional checkers. Poorly.

#123 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-05 01:33 PM | Reply

Thanks Tor! You have to speak to these people in the kind of language they understand.

That's why I routinely tell them they're stupid. They understand that.

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 01:35 PM | Reply

What did they "do"? Did it affect those lazy Boomers ?

#119 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Those "lazy boomers" ended the cold war for you with the Soviet Union (without firing a shot) and helped bring about the collapse of the entire Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall. You morons are giving away for free any advances those "lazy boomers" accomplished and now we have sided with an international war criminal against a democratic ally.

Good werk "morans".

#125 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-05 02:34 PM | Reply

You've convinced yourselves that nothing can be cut from a 6.8 trillion dollar budget without causing catastrophe. Not one employee out of 3 million is redundant. That's epic.

#126 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 02:59 PM | Reply

You've convinced yourselves that nothing can be cut from a 6.8 trillion dollar budget without causing catastrophe.

#126 | POSTED BY VISITOR

You know better than that. That's why you're MAGA.

There are so many layers of stupid to your attitude. Again, that's why you're MAGA.

Trump could cut money from the budget safely.

He's not.

That's why there will be a catastrophe.

You Mr. Bootstraps you.

#127 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 03:06 PM | Reply

Given the high degree of certainty that you all have that the Federal Government has no waste worth spending effort to eliminate, I'm sure there's no reason to look at defense spending and privatization contracts either.

#128 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 03:51 PM | Reply

#128 | POSTED BY VISITOR

I have incredulity about your concern for money given that Trump and Musk, at this very moment, are stealing you blind.

As someone put it----Elon Musk is about to swallow, personally steal, FAA funding.

He is threatening FAA people who get in his way.

Now, I may be old-fashioned, but it's the job and the duty of Donald Trump to stop that.

You sometimes pretend to be old-fashioned, too.

So ight the villain at hand, not the one you imagine.

#129 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 03:58 PM | Reply

Post the details.

#130 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 04:03 PM | Reply

"Given the high degree of certainty that you all have that the Federal Government has no waste worth spending effort to eliminate"

That is a straw man.

Beyond that, your definition for Government Waste is "anything DOGE cuts."

You have the intellectual fortitude of someone who quotes The Bible to prove The Bible.

#131 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-05 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So much this:

Randi Mayem Singer @rmayemsinger.bsky.social

"They'll never cut Social Security" is the new "they'll never overturn Roe v Wade."

#132 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-05 04:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Post the details.

#130 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

The details are everywhere in the news today.

Go get 'em, Tiger.

#133 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 04:56 PM | Reply

So Zed, you wrote: "Elon Musk is about to swallow, personally steal, FAA funding." and got nothing to back it up?

#134 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 05:23 PM | Reply

#134 | POSTED BY VISITOR

I wrote that if you burned twenty seconds you could read all about it.

Interesting---

So you actually think that's nothing real if you don't read it here---

And if you do read it here, and it's inconvenient---

It's not real anyway?

#135 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-05 05:29 PM | Reply

Lawmakers question Musk influence over Verizon FAA contract

www.reuters.com

#136 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-05 05:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Starlink gets the contract and doesn't adequately provide the service and save the government money, you may have a point.

#137 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-05 05:58 PM | Reply

If you ever have a point it will be the first time.

The point is we have a conflicted self-interested President-owning Oligarch making changes to HIS ----- BANK... which is the US Gov.

#138 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-05 07:59 PM | Reply

" a few dozen..."

"... some 7,000..."

"So, pretty much the same."
~Republican Math

#139 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-05 10:54 PM | Reply

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