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BREAKING: The president made the announcement on social media, but officials in Israel and Iran have yet to announce it for themselves. His post came hours after Iran launched on attack on a U.S. base in Qatar.[image or embed]

— NPR (@npr.org) Jun 23, 2025 at 6:48 PM

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"In a post on social media the US president claimed that the agreement had been made, hours after Iran launched an attack on a US base in Qatar."

Trump said it, so it must be true.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 06:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

We'll find the enriched uranium in two weeks.

~ Taco Donnie ~

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 06:26 PM | Reply

I wonder if he just posts stuff like this to watch and see if either side takes the bait; finds it an easier out just to say, 'Yeah we did that!'.

Really, what are the consequences for Trump? His Base doesn't hold him responsible for what he says and does, and other nations know he's a dangerous joke and a useful idiot.

Ask Vlad.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 06:38 PM | Reply

Trump was trying to negotiate peace before dropping bombs.

So.

Who knows what he'll be doing in an hour from now.

Especially if Netanyahu tells him the continue attacking Iran.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-23 06:45 PM | Reply

- Who knows what he'll be doing in an hour from now.

Certainly not Melania! Or who he'll be doing, either. He's not keeping JD and Pete around for nothing!

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 06:47 PM | Reply

Democrat clown show isn't going to like this.

#6 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-06-23 07:04 PM | Reply

Iran's Uranium stockpile is missing.

Am I supposed to cheer for that? You moron.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-06-23 07:07 PM | Reply

Thread already up here:

drudge.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 07:36 PM | Reply

lol you're gonna piss off the hall mom.

#9 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-06-23 07:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Iran's denial:

A senior Iranian official told CNN that Iran has not received any ceasefire proposal and sees no reason for one. The official stated Iran would continue to fight until it achieves lasting peace and views such claims as "a deception"."

www.google.com

Trump lied, no Trumper cared.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 07:44 PM | Reply

"House Speaker Mike Johnson reacted to President Donald Trump's announcement of a ceasefire between Israel and Iran by praising the president's leadership, saying that "this is what peace through strength looks like."

"It's a really remarkable achievement. President Trump deserves all the credit. This is what peace through strength looks like. We haven't seen this in a while, and it's really a big sigh of relief here on Capitol Hill," Johnson told reporters at the US Capitol on Monday, shortly after Trump announced the ceasefire on Truth Social."

www.cnn.com

Poor Mikey... when will he ever learn?

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 07:49 PM | Reply

"#6 | Posted by Corky"

Don't worry - I am sure a liberal activist judge will run along shortly and rule that Trump cannot declare a ceasefire so the war must continue.

#12 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-23 07:50 PM | Reply

Qatari Prime Minister Secured Iran's Agreement to US Ceasefire Proposal After Call With Trump, Official Says www.usnews.com

It's difficult to find articles outside of this one that Iran has agreed to the ceasefire. So who knows...

#13 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2025-06-23 07:59 PM | Reply

lol you're gonna piss off the hall mom.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 08:09 PM | Reply

Mark my words:

Something very strange is going on.

Both Israel and Iran are being very quiet. Trump says there is a ceasefire but Iran says there isn't one at first. Qatar has to confirm the ceasefire and negotiated it with Iran. Israel can keep bombing for a period of time. Trump says the ceasefire is permanent. No statements from any high ranking officials in Iran. Also Baghdad has been hit. The 60% enriched Uranium is still in Iran.

Something has happened that isn't hitting the news yet.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 08:10 PM | Reply

#15 | Posted by Sycophant

LOL Your innate sense couldn't smell BS.

You're the same guy that defended Biden's senility, called them "deep fakes".

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-23 08:11 PM | Reply

This is a huge L for Israel.

They wanted regime change: Big L
They wanted to set back Iran's nuclear ambitions 5 years: Big L
They wanted to prove they could protect themselves while hitting Iran: Big L

It's also a big L for Iran.

They wanted to prove it could defend itself: Big L
They lost a lot of top military leaders and scientists: Big L
They wanted to prove they could control their airspace: Big L

The biggest L is for Israel though. Israeli citizens understand they aren't safe if they attack Iran. Israel depleted it's Iron Dome missiles and even when it was working, it couldn't stop many of the Iranian missiles. And this is WITH help from the US and surrounding nations.

But it's yet to be seen if something else happened making it a bigger L for Iran as well.

In truth, this might just be Israel ageeing to a ceasefire so it can restock their defense missiles so they can restart the attacks.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 08:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You're the same guy that defended Biden's senility, called them "deep fakes".

#16 | Posted by oneironaut

No, I didn't.

Get off your knees for Israel and wipe the ---- off your chin.

#18 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 08:19 PM | Reply

#15 Something else that is....interesting...

According to NBC:

As Iran comes under attack, its Arab neighbors are largely AWOL
The American strikes are likely to be accepted " and even privately praised " by a Middle East officialdom that has long seen Iran as the primary threat to regional stability.

www.nbcnews.com

The article says that many Arab nations may publicly criticize the bombing of Iran but privately praise it because of a "cold war" between many Arab countries and Iran...

Caught me of guard that is for sure! If it were from FOX I'd definitely doubt it...but NBC?

#19 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2025-06-23 08:20 PM | Reply

Israel is clearly still bombing Tehran right now, and MAY decide to let that end this phase IF Iran doesn't respond... seems to be the newest reporting.

Which is fine. There's got to be an Abraham Accords 2.0 for a few years before this starts up again, if the old story is correct.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 08:21 PM | Reply

Iron dome missiles are very expensive compared to the missiles they try to intercept.Israel has to pick targets cause they can't shoot them all down as they don't have enough.They protect based on value of targeted area now.

#21 | Posted by Scotty at 2025-06-23 08:29 PM | Reply

Some Iranian forces are now denying there is a ceasefire.

There is also a report that Chinese planes have landed in Iran.

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 08:32 PM | Reply

"#19 | Posted by Idependant97"

This has been the case since the Iranian revolution. Iran is ----- and the rest of the Gulf nations are majority Sunni including Qatar and Saudi. In the case of Saudi, they have a significant ----- majority and those -----s live on top of their oil - which is why they fear Iran causing an uprising as without the oil, Saudi has nothing. You see this in the Yemen Houthis as well - they are ----- fighting against Sunni which is why Saudi is so afraid of them. This is also why Israel would rather than Al Queda and ISIS linked groups , which are all Sunni, running Syria and Iraq vs. the -----/Shia linked groups because they fear Iran.

#23 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-23 08:36 PM | Reply

"#21 | Posted by Scotty"

That is their talking point - but the reality is that Iron Dome was built to defend against homemade rockets from Gaza with very slow speeds and no ability to fly in anything but a straight line. They are useless vs. Iranian and even Yemeni missiles - especially ballistic missiles. Iran can hit them at will. The much more expensive part of their defense, including THAAD systems, have been equally inept. It is a story as old as time - it is much easier to develop a stronger weapon than stronger armor. We are at the end point of this now with ballistic missiles.

#24 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-23 08:40 PM | Reply

#21

True, and one could fit something like 400 Israels in the US, so imagine what the Orange Dome would cost to operate.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 08:42 PM | Reply

There is also a report that Chinese planes have landed in Iran.

They are just there to tell Iran not to close Hormuz like Lewzer told them to.

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 08:49 PM | Reply

Iran has officially announced there is no ceasefire.

This is per Seyed Abbas Araghchi, Foreign Minister, Islamic Republic of Iran.

However, they said if Israel stops by 4 a.m. their time, they will stop.

Israel has not however stopped by the deadline.

#27 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 08:54 PM | Reply

x.com

#28 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 08:55 PM | Reply

Trump: 'Ceasefire' Between Israel-Iran

Booo! Hiss!

Need more liberal/MAGAt freakouts over the well-being of an Islamist theocracy that murders Christians/gays/women. I require more time to enjoy the horseshoe theory in action.

#29 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-23 09:11 PM | Reply

Need more liberal/MAGAt freakouts over the well-being of an Islamist theocracy that murders Christians/gays/women. I require more time to enjoy the horseshoe theory in action.

#29 | Posted by censored

Except for the word Islamic, I thought you were talking about Israel.

It looks like you don't know anything about Iran.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 09:16 PM | Reply

However, they said if Israel stops by 4 a.m. their time, they will stop.

So if Bibi stops attacking, they will stop defending? They had that deal before Bibi attacked in the first place.

#31 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 09:28 PM | Reply

Putin is terrified of what could happen in Iran

www.youtube.com

Interesting perspective from Ukraine.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 09:33 PM | Reply

NY Times reporting ceasefire agreement...

Qatar Intervened to Persuade Iran to Accept Cease-Fire Deal, Diplomats Say www.nytimes.com

The BBC reports:

Iran's foreign minister says if Israel stops its attacks, Iran has "no intention to continue our response" www.bbc.com

#33 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2025-06-23 09:39 PM | Reply

Trump: "I am the president who won't ---- on the floor!"
MAGAts: "Trump won't ---- on the floor! Isn't he the greatest?!"
Trump: *----s on floor*
MAGAts: "-------- on the floor was necessary! Isn't he the greatest?!"
Trump: *cleans up most of ---- on the floor*
MAGAts: "He cleaned up some of the ---- on the floor! Isn't he the greatest?!"

#34 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 09:46 PM | Reply

#32 Corky, thank you for that youtube link...Very interesting hearing the perspective from Ukraine and that Putin is fearful of what might happen in iran...and the footage of Iranians cheering the bombing against their government. Great find! I'm learning quite a bit about stuff over there these last few days....

#35 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2025-06-23 09:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Interesting perspective from Ukraine.

Like the bit how the US could have stopped Russia in its tracks any time it wanted to, but chose not to.

#36 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-23 09:50 PM | Reply

It looks like you don't know anything about Iran.
#30 | Posted by Sycophant

Iran doesn't murder apostates, gays, and women who exercise their human rights as part of their criminal justice system? But Israel does?

Thanks for sharing how out of touch the pro-Hamas contingent is with the evil that Muslims commit in the name of their god. And how brainwashed they are against Israel, the closest thing to a modern and civilized nation that exists in that part of the world.

#37 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-23 10:06 PM | Reply

"pro-Hamas contingent is with the evil that Muslims commit in the name of their god.
#37 | Posted by censored"

The Muslims, by and large, are little more than stone-age thinkers but now equipped with modern weapons. However, their morality is literally no different than the Israelis. The Jewish Supremacy of Israel is used to justify any barbaric act they do - killing women and children? - no problem. A non-Jewish life is worth less than a Jewish fingernail.

We need to take a lesson from War Games - the only winning move is not to play. Let Iran and Israel fight to to the death as they will never peacefully coexist. We just need to remove the NEOCON/AIPAC influence within the US government.

#38 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-23 10:31 PM | Reply

Strange to me that Lumpers are furious that Iran declared a ceasefire and no American service members died.

#39 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-23 10:50 PM | Reply

Iran doesn't murder apostates, gays, and women who exercise their human rights as part of their criminal justice system? But Israel does?

#37 | Posted by censored

Not generally no.

And they kind of ditched the morality squad.

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 10:50 PM | Reply


Like the bit how the US could have stopped Russia in its tracks any time it wanted to, but chose not to.
#36 | POSTED BY REDIAL

This was PreAutoPen!

#41 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-23 10:50 PM | Reply

The Muslims, by and large, are little more than stone-age thinkers but now equipped with modern weapons. However, their morality is literally no different than the Israelis. The Jewish Supremacy of Israel is used to justify any barbaric act they do - killing women and children? - no problem. A non-Jewish life is worth less than a Jewish fingernail.
We need to take a lesson from War Games - the only winning move is not to play. Let Iran and Israel fight to to the death as they will never peacefully coexist. We just need to remove the NEOCON/AIPAC influence within the US government.

#38 | Posted by ScottS

Look at the racist trotting out his same old KKK takes.

#42 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-23 10:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#40 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Iran's legal system explicitly criminalizes same-sex sexual relations, with the death penalty as a maximum punishment.

#43 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-23 10:52 PM | Reply


Look at the racist trotting out his same old KKK takes.
#42 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Look someone without any argument.

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-23 10:53 PM | Reply

#44

Look at the --------- who doesn't know Los Angeles is in California.

#45 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 10:55 PM | Reply

The healthcare systems of Iran and the United States differ significantly in structure, financing, and access to care. Iran's system is largely centralized with a focus on universal health coverage, while the US system is predominantly privately-funded, with a mix of public and private insurance, and a higher cost per capita.
Iran's Healthcare System:
Centralized and Publicly Focused:
Iran's system is primarily government-managed and aims for universal health coverage, with the Ministry of Health and Medical Education (MoHME) playing a central role in policy and regulation.
Primary Health Care Network:
Iran has a well-established primary health care network, particularly in rural areas, that provides essential services like vaccinations, disease prevention, and health education.
Health Insurance Coverage:
While the majority of Iranians have health insurance, some individuals, especially those in low-income brackets, may still be uninsured.
Cost:
Iran spends significantly less per capita on healthcare than the US, and out-of-pocket expenses can still be a burden for some citizens.
Efficiency:
While Iran has made strides in improving healthcare access and outcomes, it faces challenges like financial constraints, staffing shortages, and inequalities in access between urban and rural areas.
United States Healthcare System:
Privately-Dominated:
The US healthcare system is largely driven by private insurance companies and healthcare providers.
Public Programs:
The US also has public programs like Medicare and Medicaid, but a significant portion of the population relies on private insurance.
High Cost:
The US system is characterized by high healthcare costs, with the highest per capita spending globally, despite not always achieving the best health outcomes.
Access:
While the US has made progress in expanding health insurance coverage, a notable percentage of the population remains uninsured, and access to care can be a challenge for some, particularly those with limited financial resources.
Outcomes:
Despite high spending, the US system lags behind other developed nations in some key health indicators like life expectancy and infant mortality.
Comparison:
Financing:
Iran relies more on government funding and insurance plans, while the US relies heavily on private insurance and out-of-pocket payments.
Access:
Iran has made strides in providing universal health coverage, while access to care in the US can be uneven and influenced by insurance status and income.
Outcomes:
The US spends significantly more on healthcare than Iran, but its health outcomes are not necessarily better and in some areas, like life expectancy, it lags behind other developed nations.
In summary, Iran's system prioritizes universal access and public health, while the US system is characterized by higher costs and a more fragmented, private-sector driven approa

#46 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-23 11:09 PM | Reply

"Look at the racist trotting out his same old KKK takes.
#42 | Posted by Sycophant"

The only KKK take is the Jewish Supremacy of Israel. I don't know if you are Jewish - if you are not, you are seen as 'less than human' to them. This is same exact ideology of the Nazis. We have no business supporting a country like this. Their supremacist views are the reason for the continual wars (to reclaim their lands from 2500 years ago that never even existed outside of Jewish myths) and they will justify any barbaric act to accomplish it. The world would be a better place today with Israel turned into a giant sheet of glass by Iranian nukes.

#47 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-23 11:12 PM | Reply

How many of you morons were screaming this was going to be WW3? Where's that ---- Zed???

#48 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-23 11:30 PM | Reply

#46 If you think Iranian health care is so good you should have went there to get your dick cut off.

#49 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-06-23 11:32 PM | Reply

---------- believed the------------- was going to end the Russia/Ukraine war on day one.

#50 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 11:35 PM | Reply

Nice ceasefire, stinky.

bsky.app

#51 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 11:37 PM | Reply

"#51 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

Someone links to BlueSky - which is known as Pedophile Twitter. Then, I notice it was you. Yep, checks out.

#52 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-23 11:56 PM | Reply

Scatberg, are you still infecting your toddler rape victims with TB?

#53 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 11:58 PM | Reply

Iran doesn't murder apostates, gays, and women who exercise their human rights as part of their criminal justice system? But Israel does?
#37 | Posted by censored

Not generally no. And they kind of ditched the morality squad.
#40 | Posted by Sycophant

As I said, showing the world how out of touch the pro-hamasers are with the true nature of Muslim extremists they defend. And how brainwashed they are against Israel, the only relatively civilized and modern nation in that region.

#54 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 01:48 AM | Reply

#38 | Posted by ScottS

That! That's the horseshoe theory I'm talking about!

I love it! You're on the same side as Coriolanus, Ilhann Omar, and AOC.

Pure entertainment!

#55 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 01:56 AM | Reply

As I said, showing the world how out of touch the pro-hamasers are with the true nature of Muslim extremists they defend. And how brainwashed they are against Israel, the only relatively civilized and modern nation in that region.

#54 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 01:48 AM | Reply | Flag: MEH

For me

When I hear people accuse the left of supporting Hamas... it reminds me of when I hear white people justify slavery by saying "well it was just Africans selling other Africans off to slavers"... so they did it to themselves...

The actions of Hamas do not justify the sadistic cruelty and slaughter perpetrated by us... the good guys... because the way the good guys see it... the women raped and children they hack to pieces are future enemies "neutralized"... the mutilated cripples they leave behind are reminders of not to mess with us... because we have the moral high ground... and you were just born to a bunch of terrorists... in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The protests aren't Pro-Hamas they are anti-US becoming another Hamas... doing what we accuse Hamas of doing... like throwing people off buildings... which is what we do when WE go after them... we throw them off buildings... fill their bodies full of bullets... burn them... dump toxic chemicals on them... perform sick sexual acts on them...

The US and Israel are doing to them right now... what we accuse Hamas of wanting to do to us...

SOSDD

the whole "fog of war" thing

You're the ones with the shallow ambitions not us... jus saying...

so
GFY

#56 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-24 03:20 AM | Reply

The actions of Hamas do not justify the [...] slaughter perpetrated by us.

Actually, it does, although not in the way you misleadingly claim. Since, by committing the war crime of hiding amongst civilians, the Palestinians make that into a legitimate military target.

The Palestinians commit atrocities against civilian men, women, and children, and then hide the perpetrators amongst their own civilians (like when they stuck their leadership under a hospital parking lot, which they now do their best to avoid mentioning since Israel released tons of photos and videos substantiating that fact) for the express purpose of spiking the numbers when the hand of Allah comes to strike them down in retribution. And then they feign shock and indignation, and the westerners fall for it.

Despite the Palestinian's war crimes of hiding amongst civilians, Israel kills fewer Palestinian civilians than any other nation has killed while at war, including our own which killed 100,000 civilians in one night of firebombing Tokyo. Because Israel bends over backwards to avoid it, like sending dud missiles to "knock" on the roofs of buildings where terrorists base their operations before they send an armed missile a few minutes later.

And the Palestinian casualty numbers come from Hamas, which identifies as a civilian every Palestinian who is hurt or killed.

The fact that westerners are so easily conned by Palestinian ISIS shows why Israel needs to exist. Because the westerners hate the Jews just like they always have, and grab ahold of anything they can to vilify them, even if it requires defending the very same Muslim extremists who would murder the westerners and the Chickens for KFC Queers for Palestine that the westerners hold dear.

Even now, Sycophant is claiming that Iran, a nation that persecutes every woman in that nation with their draconian systems, and murders gays and apostates as a matter of law, is somehow better than Israel.

so GFY
#56 | Posted by RightisTrite

Hug a terrorist. I'm sure they'll whisper "Aloha, snackbar!" more tenderly into the ears of you and your loved ones as they gently slice your throats from ear to ear.

#57 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 06:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Israel kills fewer Palestinian civilians than any other nation has killed while at war"

Setting aside that you're lying, and Israel has killed at least 67,651 Palestinians, and 2,916 Israelis have been killed by someone from the other side since 2000: israelpalestinetimeline.org

Israel can not be at war with Palestine. Because there is no nation called Palestine. The primary reason Israel continues to kill Palestinians is to prevent a Palestinian state from existing. This has been Israeli policy since the Jewish Zionist Assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Rabin in 1995.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well most of your scree is hyperbolic BS... but serious question...

Why does Israel NEED to exist?

What would happen if it didn't?

#59 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-24 07:13 AM | Reply

"Why does Israel NEED to exist?"

Irony is that Israel is needed less and less every day, with Trump dismantling the post-war hegemony.

I would not be surprised if Israel has a closer friend in Russia in fifty years.

That would be a sort of homecoming, because most Ashkenazi Jews have European ancestry.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:32 AM | Reply

Nuttywahoo and Putz are buds...

Both are playing Trumpanzee for all its worth.

#61 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-24 07:37 AM | Reply

"Even now, Sycophant is claiming that Iran, a nation that persecutes every woman in that nation with their draconian systems, and murders gays and apostates as a matter of law, is somehow better than Israel."

Replace every woman with Palestinians, gays and apostates with Palestinians, and you've got Israel.

Like this:

Even now, Censored is claiming that Israel, a nation that persecutes every Palestinian from the river to the sea with their draconian systems, and murders Palestinians as a matter of law, is somehow better than Iran.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:39 AM | Reply

Why does Israel NEED to exist? What would happen if it didn't?
#59 | Posted by RightisTrite

I'll assume that you are serious and not just trolling. You seem more intelligent than most, so I'll also assume that you are young and a living testament to the quality of our educational system.

Persecution of Jews
en.wikipedia.org
Maybe start at Nazi Germany and then read the rest of the article, if you care.

Long story short, they've been chased out of every nation they were part of, including the nations of the Middle East after the Muslims conquered those lands by force, stealing their land, and hacking the heads off non-believers as they pleased. Even the ones who assimilated and gave up pretty much every outward aspect of their religion.

Of course, it's not just Jews the Muslims wantonly murdered. You can read this article about how the Muslim conquerors used to make it a point to murder 100,000 Hindus every single year, whether they needed it or not. Which would explain some of the antagonism in that region.

Mughal India ~ The Biggest Holocaust in World History
www.sikhnet.com
(My favorite part in that article was one occasion where they executed another 100,000 Hindu prisoners of war because they couldn't be trusted to be left alone with the baggage. LOL!)

Which is why a two state solution is the most reasonable answer. But the Palestinians, who have never had a nation in the history of the world, refuse because they want all the land they want to steal from others and refuse to share.

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past
lawandsocietymagazine.com

#63 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 07:45 AM | Reply

"Maybe start at Nazi Germany"

Nazi Germany stopped existing before Israel was born, so the two things aren't even contempraneous.

Do you know what contemporaneous means?

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:51 AM | Reply

"Which is why a two state solution is the most reasonable answer."

You lie.

The two state solution is a completely unreasonable answer to Zionists.

The two state solution is why Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by a Zionist Jew.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:55 AM | Reply

"How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past"

And? After five times are they required to accept or something?

The so called "offer" never really mattered. Israel went ahead and created Israel without any agreement -- without any "offer" being accepted. The narrative that Israel "offered" Palestine a state is propaganda for children. It's like saying Putin offered Ukraine the chance to become part of Russia, which of course is true.

It's what happened when the offer wasn't accepted that matters.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 08:04 AM | Reply

It's almost as if he has just discovered this.

Trumpanzee is in over his head... I wonder if when he accepted that gold-plated jet from Qatar... he knew the abyss he stepped into... playing around with the Islamic movers and shakers. Bushturd2 shoulda warned him.

Bushturd2 and Trumpanzee families both have Nazi and ties... Trumpanzee by blood... about the time Bushturd's family got into laundering Nazi money they got in good with the Arabs... all of them... trying to work out the "Jewish situation"... true story ... historical fact...

Ya see it's not only the Jews and Muslims... It's also the Trumpanzee's and Bushturds and their ilk keeping this $#!t in play... and why they should never be elected to office... they are too accustomed to inheriting their power.

Trumpanzee made himself beholding to these people right there in plain sight... He couldn't resist...

Republicl0wns here thought it was a good idea and wished it were them.

#67 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-24 08:40 AM | Reply

"they are too accustomed to inheriting their power."

No surprise Trump cozies up with those who were born into power. Leaders like MBS and Lil Kim.

It really is a repudiation of democratic ideals. By the Party that reminds us daily "We are not a democracy!"

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 08:52 AM | Reply

There's no ceasefire. There's still war. Trump is flipping his bean over Israel and Iran disobeying him.

#69 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-24 08:58 AM | Reply

Imagine dropping a billion dollars worth of bombs, and still managing to turn your "Show of Force" into a show of feckless incompetence.

Anyway, which company makes those huge bunker buster bombs, that we just depleted 60% of our stockpile bombing a third world country? Good money making opportunity there.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 09:02 AM | Reply

It's almost as if he has just discovered this.
#67 | Posted by RightisTrite

Sorry, I'm not sure if you're responding to me. You presented what I thought was a trolling or naive question, but one that appeared to be asked in good faith, since you prefaced it with "but serious question..."

So I gave you the benefit of the doubt and answered, presenting the historical and ongoing justification for a homeland for Jews. Since Jews have been slaughtered and chased out of every nation, including those where they originated over 3,000 years ago.

Apologies if I misunderstood the nature of your comment. I'll be sure to be more circumspect regarding those in the future.

#71 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 09:08 AM | Reply

"Since Jews have been slaughtered and chased out of every nation, including those where they originated over 3,000 years ago."

^
So I guess turnabout is fair play.
It was okay when Jews chased the Non-Jews out of Israel, because the opposite happened starting 3,000 years ago.
Jews are no different than anyone else.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 09:12 AM | Reply

"historical and ongoing justification for a homeland for Jews."

Please present the historical and ongoing justification for expelling the non-Jews from the Jewish homeland.

As well as the historical and ongoing justification for continuing to increase the size of the Jewish homeland, by expelling even more non-Jews from their homes in the non-Jewish territory of West Bank and Gaza. Or is that Jewish territory too?

Thanks.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 09:15 AM | Reply

Mark my words:
Something very strange is going on.
Both Israel and Iran are being very quiet. Trump says there is a ceasefire but Iran says there isn't one at first. Qatar has to confirm the ceasefire and negotiated it with Iran. Israel can keep bombing for a period of time. Trump says the ceasefire is permanent. No statements from any high ranking officials in Iran. Also Baghdad has been hit. The 60% enriched Uranium is still in Iran.
Something has happened that isn't hitting the news yet.
#15 | Posted by Sycophant

LOL Your innate sense couldn't smell BS.
#16 | Posted by oneironaut

Apparently my innate sense of BS is right.

There was no ceasefire.

#74 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-24 10:15 AM | Reply

Don't worry - I am sure a liberal activist judge will run along shortly and rule that Trump cannot declare a ceasefire so the war must continue.

#12 | Posted by ScottS

The Israelis did that for him.

HA HA HA HA HA

#75 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-24 10:16 AM | Reply

As I said, showing the world how out of touch the pro-hamasers are with the true nature of Muslim extremists they defend. And how brainwashed they are against Israel, the only relatively civilized and modern nation in that region.

#54 | Posted by censored

This guy confuses Afghanistan with Iran and expects us all to take him seriously.

#76 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-24 10:18 AM | Reply

#71 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 09:08 AM | Reply | Flag: NAH

Sorry... Mr. C... I think I was unclear... I was referring to Trumpanzee's assessment of the Iran-Israel long-term relationships, both fictional, legendary and real relative to his cease-fire theatrics. playing with the joke sorta...

All that... "doing what no one has ever accomplished" legend in his own mind is hard for him to track...
Dude thinks he's smarter than anyone who's ever lived...

That being said... if one actually reads the Bible and embraces it as having some value as a historical witness... then you know the Jews have done more than their fair share of underhanded slaughter and chasing people out of ancestral territories... creating holidays n stuff. Zionism isn't all that new.

I don't think all Jews are Zionists... but it's hard to know because the Zionists tend to use civilians as human shields.

#77 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-24 10:22 AM | Reply

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past
lawandsocietymagazine.com
#63 | Posted by censored

This shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

The first 2 "offers" in 1948 and before were "Give up a bunch of your land so we can create a state called Israel and we'll let you keep some of the rest of your land." They weren't real offers and occurred before Israel was even created.

The third offer in 1967 was rejected by surrounding states. Palestine again was not offered actual control of the land, just some level of self-governance of some land.

The 4th "offer" wasn't even an offer at Camp David in 2000. There was no talk about Statehood. The word "state" isn't even in the text. It was merely some self governance but all the Israeli settlements get to stay and the land offered for "self governance" was based on Israeli definitions of what Palestine got. Palestine got 96% of the land Israel said was Palestinian. That meant really giving up 10% of Palestinian land to Israel because Israel claimed it was their land. This of course was the fertile farmland. And Israel got permanent military bases in the West Bank. Israel would also control all water in the Palestinian land. And for the agreement, Israel would still have ultimate control. No state was to be created from this agreement.

The 5th "offer" was again no offer at all. It was the same demands as the 4th offer but at least the term State was finally used.

You shouldn't talk about Israel or Palestine, or even Iran for that matter, until you actually know what you are talking about.

#78 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-24 10:39 AM | Reply

That being said... if one actually reads the Bible and embraces it as having some value as a historical witness... then you know the Jews have done more than their fair share of underhanded slaughter and chasing people out of ancestral territories... creating holidays n stuff. Zionism isn't all that new.

Yes, everyone has killed everyone else. Would be nice to reach a compromise, like everyone staying in their corner, which is what the Palestinians have refused to accept every time. Even though they never even had a corner to begin with.

it's hard to know because the Zionists tend to use civilians as human shields.
#77 | Posted by RightisTrite

The Jews use civilians as human shields? By going to a music festival? And the Palestinians don't, by building terrorist bunkers under hospital parking lots and launching missiles from schools?

The Origin of Hamas's Human Shields Strategy in Gaza
In November 2006, months after Hamas won parliamentary elections and after the group began entrenching its rule in Gaza, Nizar Rayan, a political leaders and liaison with Hamas' armed wing, introduced a novel strategy to protect the houses of Hamas militants from IDF bombardment. Rayan, a fiery religious clerk within Hamas and a rising militant star, marshaled hundreds of civilians into a house that had received IDF warnings of an impending strike. Instead of fleeing, Rayan called on people to swarm the house and cover its rooftop with as many civilians as possible to force the Israeli military into a choice: Either commit a massacre, or call off the airstrike. Israel called off the strike, and the incident received widespread international attention.
www.newsweek.com

#79 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 10:44 AM | Reply

This shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

Yes, all the offers involved Palestinians giving up claims. And now they have nothing. That's the way it works when they start wars that they lose.

You shouldn't talk about Israel or Palestine, or even Iran for that matter, until you actually know what you are talking about.
#78 | Posted by Sycophant

Yes, tell us more about how Iran is the land of peace and harmony for gays, Christians, and women.

I get where you're coming from though:

The world hates a Jew who hits back. The world loves us only when we are to be pitied.
- Golda Meir

#80 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 10:49 AM | Reply

Anyway, which company makes those huge bunker buster bombs

Boeing.

#81 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-24 11:04 AM | Reply

"That being said... if one actually reads the Bible and embraces it as having some value as a historical witness... then you know the Jews have done more than their fair share of underhanded slaughter and chasing people out of ancestral territories... creating holidays n stuff. Zionism isn't all that new."

The problem is, the world evolved, ME countries have not. The world evolved to remove religion from governance, ME countries have not. The world evolved by ensuring everyone has basic human rights, ME countries have not. Some in America have evolved to not support terrorists even when it hurts their narrative, liberals have not. The constant support liberals have for rapists, murderers, terrorists, dictators in other countries, etc. is mind boggling.

#82 | Posted by humtake at 2025-06-24 01:07 PM | Reply

The world evolved by ensuring everyone has basic human rights

#82 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Therefore Trump is de-evolving.

#83 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-24 01:28 PM | Reply

The constant support liberals have for rapists, murderers, terrorists, dictators in other countries, etc. is mind boggling.

#82 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

I'd love to read your rap sheet.

#84 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-24 01:28 PM | Reply

The world evolved to remove religion from governance

#82 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

So MAGA is de-evolving.

#85 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-24 01:29 PM | Reply

| POSTED BY HUMTAKE

What do you do for a living? Whatever it is, they pay you too much.

#86 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-24 01:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The constant support liberals have for rapists, murderers, terrorists, dictators in other countries, etc. is mind boggling.

#82 | POSTED BY HUMTRIG

HumTrig voted for the serial rapist who's snuffed out 1.2 million Americans.

#87 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-24 01:33 PM | Reply

The constant support liberals have for rapists, murderers, terrorists, dictators in other countries, etc. is mind boggling.
#82 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

It shouldn't be.

Thomas Jefferson, American hero, raped his slave girl until she was an old slave woman.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 01:50 PM | Reply

"The problem is, the world evolved, ME countries have not."

And why is this the world's problem, and not the Middle East's problem?

Because the world "evolved" to need Middle East oil, you stupid idiot.

One could try to hope someone you love died in a war for Middle East oil, but you never learned how to love.

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 01:53 PM | Reply

| POSTED BY HUMTAKE

What do you do for a living? Whatever it is, they pay you too much.
#86 | Posted by Zed

This is it! Russian troll kopeks earned by the word!

#90 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 03:07 PM | Reply

America protects Israel because Christ couldn't return as prophesized to the state of Israel until the Balfour declaration led to the recreation of Israel.Now Jesus can come back home.

#91 | Posted by Scotty at 2025-06-24 04:04 PM | Reply

America protects Israel because Christ couldn't return as prophesized to the state of Israel until the Balfour declaration led to the recreation of Israel. Now Jesus can come back home.
#91 | Posted by Scotty

Black-Jesus-Smiling

#92 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-24 05:59 PM | Reply

@#82 ... The world evolved to remove religion from governance, ME countries have not. ...

Now do the United States.

Texas will require public school classrooms to display Ten Commandments under bill signed by governor
www.texastribune.org

... Gov. Greg Abbott signed Senate Bill 10, even though a similar Louisiana law was deemed unconstitutional. ...


#93 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-24 06:49 PM | Reply

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