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Aaron Blake: President Donald Trump has justified his ramped up threats against the American political left by citing its supposed unusually violent nature.

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"A theologian of another generation once said, dehumanization precedes genocide. And the last thing a great country like the United States wants to do is to continue to demonize the other person," the Rev. Gary Mason said in a story that aired late last month. https://to.pbs.org/4mGMpfa [image or embed]

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First Link to the Progressive article

Second link to the Conservative Article

Problem in our nation today, one opinion sounds correct to one of the ideologies and one opinion sounds incorrect to only one of the ideologies.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 07:56 AM | Reply

CNN is touted as or thought of as being Middle of the road by Leftists when it is an obviously seriously far left leaning source.

DailyMail often gets the article right, I have yet to see an article give bad information. But the information usually leans to the right. It gives an opinion that the main stream media does not give. Some of the articles Not of the news cycle also are done in tabloid fashion depending on the target. But when reporting news cycle "breaking news", I have found DailyMail to be spot on.

I didn't necessarily want to argue about individual sources. I wanted to point out how differently media can see things, while both skewing facts to make their point.

I surmise, this is why media isn't trusted today.

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 08:01 AM | Reply

And I think I should have had a different headline.

It should be why media cant be trusted.

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 08:02 AM | Reply

Humans are violent. Like all animals. We'll never move past that as long as we keep indulging in tribalism like this Left-Right nonsense.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-09-20 08:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One time when I was playing a guitar when I was teenager, I was electrocuted by an amplifier after I played a chord with the volume off and then turned it up.

I blamed "the media" for that.

#5 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-09-20 08:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#3 | Posted by boaz

The more I read, the more it seems that the fellow who killed Kirk was sympathetic with the far Right.

But the more accurate description of him may be "confused".

You don't help anything, BOAZ.

You have an itch to scratch.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-20 08:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Daily Mail is a right wing screed and not to be trusted. Just sayin

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-20 08:35 AM | Reply

Progressive article presents studies of actual incidents
Conservative article MOSTLY presents polls

IOW apples to oranges.

Polls will necessarily be flawed due to the subject matter

TL:DR
Boaz is an idiot

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-20 08:55 AM | Reply

Daily Mail is a right wing screed and not to be trusted.

While I do admit Dailymail sometimes has a right leaning bias, there are plenty of times that Dailymail takes the left side of things. They will see the hypocrisy in Trump or anyone on the right many times and report on things that the mainstream media wont. They are usually on top of the story and give the conversational point of view. They are good at pointing out hypocrisy on both sides.

CNN is just a far left progressive rag, which the progressives want to be mainstream news.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 10:39 AM | Reply

CNN is just a far left progressive rag, which the progressives want to be mainstream news.
Posted by boaz

Nah. CNN is not a progressive rag, let alone a far left one.

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-20 10:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The data echo a study from the National Institute of Justice " the DOJ's research agency " last year. It found that since 1990, far-right extremists killed more than six times as many people in ideologically motivated attacks (520 people) as far-left extremists (78). The Department of Justice appeared to remove the NIJ study from its website this week.

That says it all.

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-20 10:54 AM | Reply

Nah. CNN is not a progressive rag, let alone a far left one.

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

See? CNN is about as far left as you can get while posing as an actual news source. Only MSNBC is worse.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 11:34 AM | Reply

Boaz has been so far right, CNN looks like far left to him.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-20 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Boaz has been so far right, CNN looks like far left to him.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-20 11:41 AM | Reply

This so much this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-20 11:48 AM | Reply

Only a leftist would think CNN is centrist.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 11:56 AM | Reply

CNN's content is 90% progressive. Everything they write sounds like a progressive wrote it.

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 12:00 PM | Reply

Only a leftist would think CNN is centrist.

Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 11:56 AM | Reply

You're so delusional it's not even funny.

#17 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-20 12:07 PM | Reply

Sound like the basic rule is that if you agree with the content, it's "spot on". If you don't agree with it, it's "biased".

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-20 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18,

Agreed.

#19 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 12:18 PM | Reply

But I posted this to show how two ideologies could use numbers to push their narratives.

#20 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 12:19 PM | Reply

two ideologies could use numbers to push their narratives.

This is not exactly a new concept.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-20 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Conservatives are ------- whiny -----

Grow the ---- up loser, not everyone is a hateful bigot

People who go into journalism tend to have ------- empathy which is a 4 letter word to magat scum

So, don't be surprised when they call out your hateful ideology for what it is

But rest assured you have a powerful soulless propaganda machine on your side

Which makes all the ------- whining so much ---- deplorable.

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-20 12:29 PM | Reply

Boaz,

You're the typical Trump supporter.

You're dumb.

Low IQ.

Stupid.

A moron.

With every thread and post you eliminate all doubt.

You're an idiot.

Poorly educated.

Pathetic.

Most of all, you're angry.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 12:35 PM | Reply

I have a genuine question for RCADE and I hope you answer it Rogers.

Is this what you intended for the Retort to be? A place for progressive left leaning posters to be able to insult conservatives? Do you see how truthhurts and clownshack and Zed contribute absolutely nothing to the conversation except insults? How is this good?

Redial and Laura and for one post Gal have actually talked about what my thread is about. This is why civility has broken down in our nation. People like them.

And notice, it wasn't me who started insulting. It's always THEM.

Me and Redial were actually having a conversation. But your trolls kick in. Do you actually approve of this Rogers? Is this what you want the Retort to be?

#24 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 12:41 PM | Reply

Is this what you intended for the Retort to be?

A place for idiots like you to post threads and comments all you want.

Or. I see. You're crying because you're getting mocked and ridiculed for your stupidity.

Quick! Run to a safe space and hide before you learn anything!

What happened to Boaz's Konservative Kry Klub?

You can always go back there.

Run away and cry it off.

Stupid.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 12:45 PM | Reply

Redial and Laura and for one post Gal have actually talked about what my thread is about.

What about Sentinel?

He's got good comments on here.

Why are you ignoring him?

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 12:47 PM | Reply

See? CNN is about as far left as you can get while posing as an actual news source. Only MSNBC is worse.

#12 | POSTED BY BOAZ

STFU idiot.

You're so far out there you have zero ability to judge center, let alone left.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-20 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Article titled: "the left is violent".

Boaz: "why won't anyone take me seriously!"

You're using tabloid garbage to push a bullshht narrative.

That's why.

Facts matter. Statistics matter. Math matters. The rights is extremely violent.

Conservatives all across the world are extremely violent people.

Domestic violence in every country is carried out by conservatives.

The Taliban, conservative, Al Qaeda, conservative. The KKK, conservative.

Putin, the ayatollahs, JongUn, Xi all conservatives.

The more conservative a population, the dumber they are.

Educated people lose their ignorance and realize their fears and hate are unfounded.

Liberals aren't violent.

Violence is the root of rightwing ideology.

It's how you get things done.

Because most conservatives ideas are appalling to the majority of people.

Currently the right is attacking transgender people for being themselves.

Because conservatives are ignorant, stupid people.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 12:58 PM | Reply

But I posted this to show how two ideologies could use numbers to push their narratives.

#20 | Posted by boaz a

HERE ARE A COUPLE OF ------- FACTS

THE CNN ARTICLE PRESENTS STUDIES COMPARING LEFT AND RIGHT WING VIOLENCE

THE DAILY MAIL ARTICLE PRESENTS POLLS ON OPINIONS ABOUT POLITICAL VIOLENCE

THEY ARE NOT EVEN DISCUSSING THE SAME ------- THING.

THAT YOU PRESENT THEM AS A COMPARISON MAKES YOU A LIAR

SINCE THEY ARE NOT DISCUSSING THE SAME THING

YOU RIGHT WING TROLLS DO THIS ALL THE ------- TIME

I, FOR ONE, AM BOTH BORED AND TIRED OF THIS -------- GAME

IT IS INCREDIBLY DESTRUCTIVE

ALL CONSERVATIVES HAVE NOWADAYS ARE LIES AND A HATEFUL IDEOLOGY

PROVE ME WRONG ON THAT

UNTIL THEN YOU SHOULD AND WILL BE TREATED THE HATEFUL, LYING PIECE OF MAGAT SCUM THAT YOU ARE

YOU WANT TO BE TREATED BETTER? STOP BEHAVING LIKE AN -------

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-20 01:52 PM | Reply

See? CNN is about as far left as you can get while posing as an actual news source. Only MSNBC is worse.

#12 | Posted by boaz

Again, this is a lie

www.google.com

Major independent analyses consistently rate CNN as leaning left, though the specific degree of bias can depend on the content and the viewer's own perspective. Perceptions of CNN's bias are also significantly polarized along partisan lines.

Lean left is not as far left as you can get

Now do OAN

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-20 01:54 PM | Reply

www.google.com

Daily Mail
The Daily Mail is widely considered to have a right-wing, conservative, and populist political bias. The newspaper is known for its strong opinions and use of sensationalist language, and it has a history of publishing inaccurate and misleading information.

Right wing, inaccurate and misleading

See the difference?

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-20 01:56 PM | Reply

Dopey McGee steps in it again.

#32 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-20 02:15 PM | Reply

I knew you idiots would attack the source and poster rather than speak to the thread.

#33 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-20 05:15 PM | Reply

You're a buffoon. Opinions aren't facts, Dumbass.

#34 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-20 06:08 PM | Reply

18,

Agreed.

#19 | POSTED BY BOAZ

lol he was talking about you *face palm*

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-21 10:21 AM | Reply

I knew you idiots would attack the source and poster rather than speak to the thread.
#33 | POSTED BY BOAZ

The thread was spoken to.

The rest was a dog pile because you stepped on a rake again.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-21 10:35 AM | Reply

How about look at every mass shooting over the past ten years and then tell us how many were done by a conservative/Republican/anyone onvthe Right.

#37 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-21 12:35 PM | Reply

If you falsely reclassify 98% of left wing violence as "right wing" or "indeterminate" I can see how you might get the impression that the right is more violent. You just have to ignore the last 60 years, including the BLM riots.

#38 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-21 12:41 PM | Reply

"How about look at every mass shooting over the past ten years"

How about you dealing with the facts as reported, instead of barfing an obvious deflection?

But feel free to link to a reputable source for your theory.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-21 12:45 PM | Reply

Politically Motivated Violence Is Rare in the United States
www.cato.org

... A total of 3,597 people have been murdered in politically motivated terrorist attacks in the United States from January 1, 1975, through September 10, 2025.

Murders committed in terrorist attacks account for about 0.35 percent of all murders since 1975. Only 79 happened since 2020, accounting for 0.07 percent of all murders during that time, or 7 out of 10,000. Terrorism is the broadest reasonable definition of a politically motivated murder because it is the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by a nonstate actor to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through coercion, fear, or intimidation. That excludes individual hate crimes, which are frequently difficult to distinguish from terrorism but are often more personal and spontaneous.

Eighty-three percent of those murdered since 1975 were killed by the 9/11 terrorists (Figure 1). The Oklahoma City Bombing accounts for about another 5 percent.

Those murdered since 2020 account for just 2 percent.

Terrorists inspired by Islamist ideology are responsible for 87 percent of those murdered in attacks on US soil since 1975 (Table 1).

Right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11 percent of the total. The definition here of right-wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies.

Left-wing terrorists murdered 65 people, or about 2 percent of the total. Left-wing terrorists include those motivated by black nationalism, anti-police sentiment, communism, socialism, animal rights, environmentalism, anti-white ideologies, and other left-wing ideologies.

Those murders that are politically motivated by unknown or other ideologies are a vanishingly small percentage, which is unsurprising because terrorists typically want attention for their causes. ...


#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-21 01:12 PM | Reply

Correcting inaccurate metaperceptions reduces Americans' support for partisan violence (2022)
www.pnas.org

... Prominent events, such as the 2021 US Capitol attack, have brought politically motivated violence to the forefront of Americans' minds. Yet, the causes of support for partisan violence remain poorly understood.

Across four studies, we found evidence that exaggerated perceptions of rival partisans' support for violence are a major cause of partisans' own support for partisan violence. Further, correcting these false beliefs reduces partisans' support for and willingness to engage in violence, especially among those with the largest misperceptions, and this effect endured for 1 mo. These findings suggest that a simple correction of partisans' misperceptions could be a practical and scalable way to durably reduce Americans' support for, and intentions to engage in, partisan violence.

Here, we propose that support for partisan violence is based in part on greatly exaggerated perceptions of rival partisans' support for violence. ...



#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-21 01:16 PM | Reply

how many were done by a conservative/Republican/anyone onvthe Right.

Does the MAGA-hat wearing shitstain who killed 17 at a Florida high school count!

therealnews.com

#42 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-21 01:20 PM | Reply

How about the degenerate who killed 23 in Texas who believed he was fulfilling the orange rapist's wishes?

elpasomatters.org

#43 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-21 01:27 PM | Reply

"The data, save for a few polls cherry-picked by the right", what? this article just "cherry picked" and only included murders....Trump meant all violence including burning Teslas, cities, beating people up, etc...

Plus the article stated the study was over the past 50 years, again I'm sure Trump meant the past few years.........current violence

#44 | Posted by Maverick at 2025-09-21 02:15 PM | Reply

The decomposing orange child rapist deleted the study that detailed classrooms shot up by right wing filth.

#45 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-21 02:18 PM | Reply

again I'm sure Trump meant the past few years.........current violence

#44 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

We're well aware what Trump meant.

Which is why we know it's BS.

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-21 02:20 PM | Reply

US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit far more' violence
www.theguardian.com

#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-21 02:21 PM | Reply

Plus the article stated the study was over the past 50 years, again I'm sure Trump meant the past few years.........current violence

#44 | Posted by Maverick

Oh you really don't want to talk about the last few years...

The righties have really been upping those kill counts...

#48 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-21 02:36 PM | Reply

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