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Thursday, October 02, 2025

25 states were unable to cover all their financial obligations at the end of fiscal year 2024, which for most states ended 30 June, per the annual State of the States report. While every state but Vermont mandates a balanced budget, elected officials often exclude certain costs such as future pension obligations and deferred maintenance from their budget calculations. "This practice essentially shifts these financial responsibilities onto future taxpayers, leaving them to cover the expenses that should have been accounted for in the current budget," the Truth in Accounting report states. In total, calculated states hold $2.2 trillion in assets and $2.9 trillion in debts. At $832 billion, unfunded pension obligations are the largest driver of state debts. The top "sinkhole states" are New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, and California. The top surplus states are North Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming, Utah, and Tennessee.

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Rather than funding promises of pension payouts and retiree health care, some elected officials in those states have used those funds to keep taxes low and pay for politically popular programs. That can make a state budget appear balanced, though its debt continues to increase " the equivalent of charging "a credit card without having the money to pay off the debt." The report grades the finances of each state, including a look at its total assets, unfunded liabilities and debts. It also calculates the overall costs to each resident: Kentucky, for example, would need $11,500 from each of its taxpayers to pay all of its outstanding bills. In 2026 after the BBB' takes effect, individual states will be making up for federal shortfalls in order to fund SNAP, food banks, or homeless shelters. Rural hospitals will be closing thanks to cuts in Medicaid. Americans will be paying more for drugs thanks to Dummkopf Trumpf's tariffs, as well as their health insurance. Inexplicably, 2026 might be a year of painful austerity for many Americans, even though the US is one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
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Don't click this link it's a PDF and likely contains malware.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-09-30 08:38 AM | Reply

They're probably all red states with low taxes and cost of living that's trumpeted as a benefit.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-30 10:12 AM | Reply

CT headed for second-largest surplus in state history
ctmirror.org

... Surging income and business tax receipts will leave Connecticut with its second-largest surplus in state history, analysts reported Wednesday, even as officials remained divided whether to use any of the $2.3 billion windfall to mitigate big cuts in federal aid.

And while the consensus revenue report from Gov. Ned Lamont's administration and the legislature's nonpartisan Office of Fiscal Analysis showed a modest softening of revenues in the future, analysts still anticipate Connecticut will save an average of almost $1.3 billion in each of the next two fiscal years. ...


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-30 12:41 PM | Reply



Trying to turn italics off ...

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-30 12:42 PM | Reply

They're probably all red states with low taxes and cost of living that's trumpeted as a benefit.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-30 10:12 AM | Reply | Flag:
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"The top "sinkhole states" are New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, and California. The top surplus states are North Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming, Utah, and Tennessee."

Sometimes reading can be beneficial.

#5 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-02 12:53 PM | Reply

"The top "sinkhole states" are New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, and California. The top surplus states are North Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming, Utah, and Tennessee."

Sometimes reading can be beneficial.

#5 | Posted by fishpaw

Oh you mean the states that trump is targeting for economic punishment because they had the brains not to vote for him?

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-02 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The top "sinkhole states" are New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, and California. The top surplus states are North Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming, Utah, and Tennessee."
Sometimes reading can be beneficial.
#5 | Posted by fishpaw
Oh you mean the states that trump is targeting for economic punishment because they had the brains not to vote for him?

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-02 01:09 PM | Reply | Flag:
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No, I mean the states that have always been the sinkholes. But if you want to blame Trump, along with the bunion on your toe go for it, it's expected.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-02 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You're being robbed blind. The swamp is only getting deeper. Well, at least you got a shotgun.

#8 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-10-02 01:52 PM | Reply

Consider the source, i.e all violence is leftwing violence etc.

#9 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-10-02 02:01 PM | Reply

No, I mean the states that have always been the sinkholes. But if you want to blame Trump, along with the bunion on your toe go for it, it's expected.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw

If the world's 4th largest economy is a sinkhole, what is Mississippi?

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-02 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#5 ... Sometimes reading can be beneficial. ...

I agree.

So, e.g., how does Connecticut seem to be unable to "pay its bills?"

CT headed for second-largest surplus in state history
ctmirror.org

Yeah, reading is indeed beneficial.

Yer up.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-02 11:57 PM | Reply

@10 ... If the world's 4th largest economy is a sinkhole, what is Mississippi? ...

The cited article seems to look at debt, vs meeting the payments of the debt.

Stated differently...

OK, I have a $100,000 mortgage on my house.

I am quite able to pay the monthly payments for that mortgage.

Does that mean I am insolvent because I have that mortgage, even though I am quite able to meet the monthly payments?

That seems to be the crux of the article.



#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-03 12:46 AM | Reply

Unfunded pension liability.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-03 01:57 AM | Reply

What happens to services when pension and debt take up an increasing percentage of revenue?

#14 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-03 02:00 AM | Reply

@#13, 14

Ya got any details for the questions?

Or is it the usual vacuous trolling posts of your current alias?


Yer up ...


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-03 02:09 AM | Reply

#7 "sinkholes" that fund the red state s%^*holes.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-03 12:10 PM | Reply

I read some of the attached pdf. I don't known if the criteria to grade these states is fair and accurate or not.

It appears to call out states for using tactics to make themselves appear more financially stable. But I don't know.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-03 12:41 PM | Reply

Then these states need to 'DOGE' their administrations and remove wasteful expenditures. The US Government should not bail out states who spend more than they take in. Fiscal discipline needed IMO.

#18 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-10-03 01:45 PM | Reply

these states need to 'DOGE' their administrations

Meaningless statement.

DOGE has done nothing but collect information on American citizens and waste taxpayer money.

Go back to your Facebook memes, stupid.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-03 01:49 PM | Reply

What happens to services when pension and debt take up an increasing percentage of revenue?

#14 | Posted by visitor_

What happens to an economy when the rich buy the politicians to write policies in favor of the rich which results in the rich sucking all the wealth out of the working class?

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-03 03:15 PM | Reply

#20 Hasn't that always been the case?

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-03 09:44 PM | Reply

Hasn't that always been the case?

No.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-03 09:58 PM | Reply

#21

NO... that wasn't the case for FDR, who was elected 4 times with the New Deal, or even JFK and LBJ with Civil Rights and the Great Society.

It took Nixon and Reagan and Bush to put the Billionaires back into power... and now your Orange Hero to make it stick.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-03 10:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

They're probably all red states with low taxes and cost of living that's trumpeted as a benefit.
#2 | Posted by jpw

This didn't age well.

@10 ... If the world's 4th largest economy is a sinkhole, what is Mississippi? ...

It would appear their children are better educated than the "4th largest economy".

The Annie E. Casey Foundation recently released its 2025 KIDS COUNT Data Book and Mississippi received its highest education ranking ever, ranking 16th in the nation for education.
www.mpe.org

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-03 11:35 PM | Reply


What happens to an economy when the rich buy the politicians to write policies in favor of the rich which results in the rich sucking all the wealth out of the working class?
#20 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

California?

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-03 11:36 PM | Reply

California's state and local government debt is over $500 billion
reason.org

Seems like a large economy isn't good for the Government.

Mississippi had a budget surplus of $750 million for the 2024-25 fiscal year and faced a $6.6 billion financial hole,

What a strange comparison, Speaks.. Is the better State the one that owes money and poorly educated or has a surplus and better educated?

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-03 11:40 PM | Reply

DOGE was a catastrophic sham, part of the ongoing right wing coup on America

#27 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-10-03 11:48 PM | Reply

ranking 16th in the nation for education.

Balanced by 50th in Health, 48th in Family and Community, and 47th in Economic Well-being.

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-04 12:11 AM | Reply

" What a strange comparison, Speaks.. Is the better State the one that owes money and poorly educated or has a surplus and better educated?

#26 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2025-10-03 11:40 PM | FLAG: "

His response will be a mish-mash of: billionaires, cult, catastrophic man made global warming and fascism.

None of it will be comprehensible but he will layer in all of his favorite buzzwords.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-10-04 12:19 AM | Reply

#20 Hasn't that always been the case?
#21 | Posted by visitor_

There was a time before you were born; before 1975.
"Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."
What happened before 1975?
You don't know and you don't care, you're already deciding this comment isn't one you can respond to.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-04 01:45 PM | Reply

"California's state and local government debt is over $500 billion"

California's state and local government debt has been reported to exceed $510 billion, with the state government alone holding approximately $273 billion in long-term debt and local entities contributing an additional $238 billion. -- AI
California's gross domestic product (GDP) was $4.103 trillion in 2024
Debt is 12.4% of GDP.

"Mississippi had a budget surplus of $750 million for the 2024-25 fiscal year and faced a $6.6 billion financial hole"

In the fiscal year 2024, the state of Mississippi had state debt totaling 8.19 billion U.S. dollars, while local government debt was slightly lower at 7.84 billion U.S. dollars. -- AI
Mississippi's real gross domestic product (GDP) was $122.4 billion in 2024.
Debt is 13.1% of GDP.

I don't know why you think it benefits you to lie.
But you must get some kind of emotional reward for lying, because you make it your life's work here.
Maybe it's knowing your Social Credit Score is going up with Palantir.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-04 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I don't know why you think it benefits you to lie.

He's been lying since he showed up as an Open Borders, Liberal.

Not one thing he's ever posted has been the truth. Ever.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-04 03:02 PM | Reply

#30 What remember from 1975 is that we elected an incompetent peanut farmer as president ushering in 50 years of conflict with Islam.

#33 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-05 10:47 AM | Reply

It was also about that time 1960s terrorists and radicals, funded by the Soviet Communist Party, began their take over of the Universities.

#34 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-05 10:50 AM | Reply

"50 years of conflict with Islam."

The conflict with Islam started twenty two years before that, when the United States and the United Kingdom overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a puppet regime. en.wikipedia.org

That's just one example. You could point to the US support for Israel as another example of the United States initiating a conflict with Islam.

If you really want to blame Islam, you'll have to go back to the Barbary Pirates.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 10:59 AM | Reply

It was also about that time 1960s terrorists and radicals, funded by the Soviet Communist Party, began their take over of the Universities.
#34 | Posted by visitor_

Is that why you didn't go? The commies scared you too much?

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:00 AM | Reply

If you go back that far, to Barbary Pirates, Islam started the conflict with the US. But it was the Incompetent Peanut Farmer that allowed the tide to turn and we've been losing the conflict since. We're to the point Muslim Invaders have colonized cities in Minnesota and Michigan, creating no-go zones for Christians and Jews. We even had a Muslim born and bred President.

#37 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-05 11:13 AM | Reply

These you go again liar. Another day another hateful lie from vistard.

There are no "no-go zones" for Christians in the United States.

Christians are free to live and practice their faith in any part of the country.

While no areas are "no-go zones," the social and cultural environment for religious practice does vary by region. For example there is the Bible Belt. Where I would imagine Muslims would also likely need to keep a "low profile". But they also can and do still go there.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-05 11:19 AM | Reply

"But it was the Incompetent Peanut Farmer that allowed the tide to turn"

Give us some examples.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It was Reagan who Cut And Run after watching 241 Marines get blown up in Beirut.

That's Jimmy Carter's family too, right?

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We even had a Muslim born and bred President.

#37 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

And Obama was not "bred" like a race horse. And he was born in Hawaii.

GFY with your hateful nazi lies.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-05 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We even had a Muslim born and bred President.
#37 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

The one who took out Osama Bin Laden?
I can see why you hated that.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:25 AM | Reply

The------------------- gave sweet Trump Tower deals to the Bin Ladens.

#43 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-10-05 11:26 AM | Reply

"We're to the point Muslim Invaders have colonized cities in Minnesota and Michigan"

We're a nation of colonists.
They're doing what your ancestors did.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:26 AM | Reply

Unless you're black. But you're too ignorant of social issues to be black.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:27 AM | Reply

It was Reagan who Cut And Run after watching 241 Marines get blown up in Beirut.

To maintain their status as peacekeepers, Marines on guard duty were ordered to keep a loaded magazine in their weapon, but the rifle's chamber was kept empty. This meant an armed sentry would have to manually chamber a round before firing, costing precious time.

Don't get me going. I am still pissed about this. .

In the early morning attack, the suicide bomber's truck drove through flimsy barriers, including a concertina wire fence. Marines at the guard post saw the truck coming, but were unable to chamber a round and fire in time to stop the vehicle before it detonated inside the building.

#46 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-05 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I am still pissed about this."

But are you pissed at Jimmy Farmer for it, because, you know, it's always the Democrat's Fault! (TM)

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:35 AM | Reply

It's like the Incompetent Peanut Farmer's Iran debacle never happened.

#48 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-05 11:39 AM | Reply

"Stupid, stupid Islam! Argh! Muslims invading North America and killing millions and millions of Americans, Canadians, and Mexicans! Blargh!'

#49 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-05 11:40 AM | Reply

"Argh! Stupid Muslim invaders! How dare they make up 1.34% of the US population? Blargh!"

#50 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-05 11:41 AM | Reply

"Stupid Obama! Argh! How come he was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize and Dummkopf Trumpf wasn't? Gargh! The Norwegians and Swedes must be Muslims like Obama! Argh!"

#51 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-05 11:44 AM | Reply

The original racist dotard Ronnie Reagan was ------------ repeatedly by Hezbollah.

#52 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-10-05 11:46 AM | Reply

It's like the Incompetent Peanut Farmer's Iran debacle never happened.
#48 | Posted by visitor_

You are not honest enough to acknowledge the "Iran Debacle" started in 1953 with the CIA coup.
That's also why you can't begin to say what Carter should have done differently.
Because you don't know.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:51 AM | Reply

It's like the Incompetent Hollywood Actor's Beirut Boom! never happened.
#48 | Posted by visitor_

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 11:52 AM | Reply

It's like the Incompetent Peanut Farmer's Iran debacle never happened.

#48 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

It's foolish to try and fly in a Haboob.

I wasn't happy to hear that either but as I recall Jimmy was not the pilot on that mission and while he may have approved of the mission as CIC he did not make them go into hostile territory essentially unarmed. To me whomever planned and commanded that mission and didn't take into account the weather (a haboob) and make adjustments (adapt and overcome) was the reason it failed. And he failed the president and America and the hostages.

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-05 12:12 PM | Reply

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