Trump is Underwater in 135 GOP House and Senate Seats

@#5 ... What WAS a surprise was the 25% drop in the winning margin. ...

Yup.

Another view ...

A wow moment': Democrats' election hot streak goes scorching
www.politico.com

... Democrats just had one of their best election nights since President Donald Trump returned to the White House. Again.

In Wisconsin's Supreme Court election, the Democratic-backed candidate sailed to a nearly 20-point landslide victory Tuesday in a battleground Trump carried less than two years ago. Meanwhile, a Georgia Democrat slashed Trump's margin of victory by two thirds in the state's reddest district despite losing the election " the most significant overperformance the party has seen across all seven House special elections so far this cycle. ...

Will the Democrats be able to maintain the momentum going into November?

Will the Democrats be able to maintain the momentum going into November?

#7 | Posted by LampLighter

Yes. The tariffs are still killing mom & pops and consumers. A temporary cessation of hostilities in the ME and temporary lowering of prices at the pump - which will take a long time to get back to where they were pre-war - won't help.

He was cratering before the war. Nothing else will have changed. ICE will keep shooting people, prices will remain high.

He should have never been allowed to run again after J6.

That is firmly on the shoulders of Mitch McChinless.

#3 | Posted by Nixon

That is firmly on the shoulders of joe biden, who hired a gutless conservative as attorney general.

#9 Yeah, bad Joe Biden, who hired a gutless conservative as attorney general.

Trump is such an improvement, having hired Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, Pam Bondi, and now (temporarily) his personal attorney, Blanche DuBois.

Amirite?

Together, all of those blackguards governed a 21st century American Weimar Republic that ushered in Trumpf 2.0.

I would hate to think USAG Merrick Garland didn't release the Epstein files from 21 Jan 2021 to 19 Jan 2025 to shield Israeli and Mossad influence and blackmail operations deep in the US political economy.

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#9 Yeah, bad Joe Biden, who hired a gutless conservative as attorney general.

Trump is such an improvement, having hired Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, Pam Bondi, and now (temporarily) his personal attorney, Blanche DuBois.

Amirite?

#10 | Posted by A_Friend

Yes of course its the fascist crooks fault that they are fascist crooks, but biden and garland were the only ones who could have stopped them (and took and oath to defend the country from them) yet refused to do so.

Every injury that trump creates for the USA is firmly on the shoulders of the delusional democrat moderates who refused to admit how treasonous and evil the republican party has become.

Just like a judge who lets a murderer out of jail is responsible for the additional murders they commit once they are out of jail.

#11 Coriolanus posits, "I would hate to think USAG Merrick Garland didn't release the Epstein files from 21 Jan 2021 to 19 Jan 2025...."

Of course, there was no call from Democrats for any such release.

The "Epstein Files" mania was a MAGA/QANON phenomenon.

Democrats in general, and the Biden administration, in particular, never once campaigned for/against the Epstein files.

Again, that was a MAGA/QANON phenomenon.

Care to list any sustained voices from the left/Democratic Party, calling for the release of the Epstein files from 21 Jan 2021 to 19 Jan 2025?

Why do you insist on playing Cassiodorus, proudly proclaiming that any Democratic Party loss as a clear repudiation of "AIPAC/AIPAC-Democratic official/Israel," while completely ignoring the multitude of inputs to the American political environment, any number of which would cause Democratic party victories and Republican Party losses.

Want to bolster your position? Present evidence that "AIPAC/AIPAC-Democratic official/Israel" was the absolute determining factor in Kamala Harris' loss. Or that it even contributed more than just some votes in some areas of Michigan.

But move the needle in every single swing state in the direction of Trump because of AIPAC/AIPAC-Democratic official/Israel? That's a unicorn.

As for me? I've posted, where the anti-Harris They/Them 2024 ads were clear cause to the defection of very specific voters in the seven (7) swing states,..

And that's what moved the needle in every single swing state in the direction of Trump in 2024.

#12 Speaks says, in part: "but biden and garland were the only ones who could have stopped them (and took and oath to defend the country from them) yet refused to do so."

Understand.

What you're saying is that Democrats suck, so clearly Trump is better.

What you're saying is that only Democrats need be pilloried because they "took and oath to defend the country from them) yet refused to do so.").

So clearly Trump and his team are better because they took and oath to defend the country from them) yet refused to do so." ... but they're Republicans, so they get a break... right? .

What you're saying, loud and clear, is that it doesn't matter who you vote for, Democrats or Republicans.

What you're saying, loud and clear, that it is better if Republicans (and Trump) have all the power because Democrats aren't perfect.

Is that about is, Speaks?

Understand.

What you're saying is that Democrats suck, so clearly Trump is better.

What you're saying is that only Democrats need be pilloried because they "took and oath to defend the country from them) yet refused to do so.").

#14 | Posted by A_Friend

Hell no. I'm saying we need to pick better democrats and accept that these moderates are simply doormats for fascism.

#15 Speaks says, "I'm saying we need to pick better democrats and accept that these moderates are simply doormats for fascism."

Disagree.

I want candidates with a "D" after their name, because in a two-party country, you're either in the majority or you're in the minority.

I prefer that Democrats gain (and retain) the majority.

A moderate Democrat in the US House, as an overall vote for a majority, produces Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA) as Chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability ... and not James Comer (R-KY).

A moderate Democrat in the US Senate, as an overall vote for a majority, produces Senator Christopher ----- (D-DE) as Chair of the Senate Defense Appropriations Committee ... and not Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Or does your pursuit for Democratic Party perfection come at the expense of the House and Senate majority for Democrats ...

... and keep Republicans firmly in charge?

#15 Speaks says, "I'm saying we need to pick better democrats and accept that these moderates are simply doormats for fascism."

I am not going to stomp around here and demand that every single Democratic candidate - from the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans, white with foam - be a clone of Hizzoner Zohran Mamdani. (BRAVO!).

In NYC the Democratic Party candidate won.

In Miami, the Democratic Party candidate won.

And on and on...

But they're NOT Mamdani clones, regardless of what others might claim.

No.

They were Democrats, members of the Democratic Party, who won.

They campaigned as they needed to campaign for their voters ...

...AND THOSE DEMOCRATS WON ! ! !

BRAVO.

Eye on the prize, my friends.

Eye on the prize.

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RCP Average 3/2 - 4/6
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Republicans: 41.7

Democrats +5.8
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@#17 ... But they're NOT Mamdani clones, regardless of what others might claim.

No.

They were Democrats, members of the Democratic Party, who won.

They campaigned as they needed to campaign for their voters ...

Exactly.

Democrats need to run on the issues that the voters, whose support they want to garner.

I want to talk about Mayor Mamdani once again, not because I support everything he espouses (quite the contrary), but because I support his campaign style.

During his campaign, he talked with the voters whose support he was hoping for. He did not talk at them, he talked with them.

He listened, he discussed, he heard what was on the minds of the voters in NYC.

Now, should Democratic candidates across the Great Country mimic his policies?

No, absolutely not.

Should Democratic candidates across the Great Country mimic his campaign style of talking with constituents?

Yes, absolutely.

#20 Thank you, Lamp.

Should Democratic candidates across the Great Country mimic his campaign style of talking with constituents?

Yes, absolutely.

Trumpy underwater?

Oh noes!

He is gonna ruin all his magnets!

I prefer that Democrats gain (and retain) the majority.

A moderate Democrat in the US House, as an overall vote for a majority, produces Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA) as Chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability ... and not James Comer (R-KY).

A moderate Democrat in the US Senate, as an overall vote for a majority, produces Senator Christopher ----- (D-DE) as Chair of the Senate Defense Appropriations Committee ... and not Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Or does your pursuit for Democratic Party perfection come at the expense of the House and Senate majority for Democrats ...

... and keep Republicans firmly in charge?

#16 | Posted by A_Friend

Democrats gained the majority in 2020. What did they do with it? Nothing. Anything they accomplished was erased by their failure to prosecute the fascist traitors.

Because of that, the fascists regained power and are now rigging the electoral system to stay there.

So electing moderate dems proved to be nothing but a step on the road to fascism.

#23 Speaks says, "Democrats gained the majority in 2020. What did they do with it? Nothing. Anything they accomplished was erased by their failure to prosecute the fascist traitors."

So, in the reality of the binary political country we live in, the absence of what you wanted to see from Democrats in 2020 means that all Democrats are worthless and therefore the USA must continue to elect Republicans.

Is that what you want, permanent GOP political dominance in the USA?

The Republican Party (and the conservative movement in general) has been operating in unison off of the plan put forth in the Powell Memorandum for 56 years.

And because Democrats aren't perfect, especially 6 years ago, they must be dammed, along with the rest of us.

"Electing moderate dems has condemned us all. Therefore, all hail the permanent Republican majority!" - Posted by SpeakSoftly

#23 Speaks says, "Democrats gained the majority in 2020. What did they do with it? Nothing."

Republicans don't need fancy political consultants to help get their candidates elected; disgruntled "left-of-centers" will do the work for us, making sure everyone forgets all about things like this:

Is that what you want, permanent GOP political dominance in the USA?
#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-09 02:34 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

Moderate dems who didn't prioritize defending the nation from fascists are worthless and they are the reason we may already have permanent GOP political dominance.

That doesn't mean all democrats are worthless.

It means the DNC tools like biden and hakeem jeffries are worthless.

If the dems have any hope of winning, it is kicking the DNC tools to the curb and calling out their failures.

-Moderate dems who didn't prioritize defending the nation from fascists are worthless

But they (moderate dems) are what many democratic party voters want.

It's why they vote for them over and over.

It's called democracy.

It's called democracy.
#28 | Posted by eberly

Not for long, if Republicans get their way!

It's called democracy.
#28 | Posted by eberly

Not for long, if Republicans get their way!

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-09 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

It must be girl day in your alt-gender world.

Speaks states, "...it is kicking the DNC tools to the curb and calling out their failures."

Okay.

There are over 400 official members of the Democratic National Committee. Generally speaking, they are people from all 50 states (and all the territories). In addition, there are thousands of Americans who work with and volunteer for the Democratic Party. at the (very) local level (voting precincts), county/parish level, state-level, regional level, and national. This group also includes elected Democratic officials, from Mayor Mamdani in the Big Apple to your very own precinct committeeperson in your neighborhood.

Again, generally speaking, they are people from all walks of life who share a commitment to the Democratic Party.

Please list which ones are "DNC tools" and which ones are not, so we know where to call out the failures.

Meanwhile, the DNC has been doing pretty good, as of late ...

-> Georgia voters ousted two Republican members of the state's Public Service Commission in favor of two Democrats - the first Democrats to win statewide nonfederal offices in decades.

-> Democrats in Mississippi Break the G.O.P.'s State House Supermajority

-> Every single county in Virginia - even deeply red counties - saw shifts TOWARDS the Democrats, as opposed to how they voted 1 year ago.

-> Dems flip Wichita School Board from a 4-3 GOP majority to a 5-2 Democratic majority. Democratic candidates Amy Warren and Amy Jensen defeated Republican incumbents Hazel Stabler and Kathy Bond.

-> Two of Tuesday's school board elections were in Bucks County, Pa., which was considered "ground zero" for right-wing groups' takeover of school boards in 2021. A few years ago, conservatives on these boards in Pennbridge and Central Bucks districts were using their roles to pass policies targeting LGBTQ+ students and banning books.

---> Democrats flipped control of both boards in 2023, and on Tuesday, they ousted every Republican from both of these boards, except for one. The Pennbridge school board is now 8-1, with Democratic members in control. The Central Bucks school board is 9-0.

-> In Texas, we even won in Lockhart, which sits in a district so red that Democrats normally don't even run. We had a clean sweep in Cy-Fair ISD, another deeply red area that not even Greg Abbott could save your party.

-> In SD-9, another red district, we saw an 8 point shift for the Democrat

-> Eileen Higgins elected as first Democratic mayor of Miami in three decades

Or are all those failures, too?

And still the DNC does not release the official autopsy report of why they lost on Tuesday 5 Nov 2024 and what happened to 6,265,888 supporters they once had on Tuesday 3 Nov 2020.

All sorts of tortured reasoning will vomit out from MIGA and AIPAC operatives: "misogyny," "racism," "Felon Musk," "Kamala Harris only had 107 days," blah-blah-blah.

None of those factors existed when the incumbent Democrats lost the White House on Tuesday 3 Nov 1968.

The 3 Nov 2024 death toll of 43,061 murdered Palestinians in Gaza had nothing to do with Democrats losing, right?

#33 " The 3 Nov 2024 death toll of 43,061 murdered Palestinians in Gaza had nothing to do with Democrats losing, right?"

Hardly.

#33 The $300,000,000.00 in anti-Harris, "She's for they/them" ads during NFL/NCAA football games in the month of October 2024 in all 7 swing states had nothing to do with Republicans winning, right?

But they (moderate dems) are what many democratic party voters want.

It's why they vote for them over and over.

It's called democracy.

#28 | Posted by eberly

They are who voters are GIVEN to support by the corporate/israeli owned DNC.

It's called a plutocracy.

Again, generally speaking, they are people from all walks of life who share a commitment to the Democratic Party.

Please list which ones are "DNC tools" and which ones are not, so we know where to call out the failures.

#32 | Posted by A_Friend

Whoever was fighting and yelling at biden behind the scenes to prosecute the fascist coup plotters is a real democrat.

Not even democrat. This was simply a test of patriotism and competence.

Anyone who participated in the coup, OR in allowing the coup attempt to go unpunished should lose their job. That's nearly all the republicans and a lot of dems too.

And any dem who wants to cling to norms and traditions that bind our hands when republicans have abandoned those norms and traditions needs to go too.

#37 Names, Speaks.

You water it down with " ... anyone who participated in the coup ... and a lot of dems too" and " ... any dem who wants to cling to norms and traditions ... "

Who are those Democrats, Speaks?

And I assume you prefer Republicans in the place of those Democrats, right?

**** Congressman Robert Garcia (D-CA): Former USAG Merrick Garland Should Testify About Epstein Files ****

"Why the [Department of Justice (DOJ)] under Merrick Garland, or others, weren't forthcoming in what was actually in these files, I think is an important question that has to be answered."

Source: From 21 Jan 2021 to 19 Jan 2025, who was USAG Merrick Garland Really Shielding from Public Purview?

Who are those Democrats, Speaks?

And I assume you prefer Republicans in the place of those Democrats, right?

#38 | Posted by A_Friend

I don't know who they are but they aren't many and none who had the courage to speak openly about it.

And no republican is better than any democrat.

#40 Speaks speaks truth in volumes ... " ... I don't know who they are but they aren't many and none who had the courage to speak openly about it."

One of the reasons why you're one of my favorite posters here:

"I don't know who they are ... " and "they aren't many ... "

But "they" (the only alternative to Trump/Republicans/MAGA/"conservatives") are worse than Republicans?

And it is worth destroying the village ("they", the "DNC", AIPAC-Democrats, etc.) in order to save this democracy for ... Republicans?

Is that your end game, Speaks?

#42 Thank you for your support, Coriolanus.

But "they" (the only alternative to Trump/Republicans/MAGA/"conservatives") are worse than Republicans?

And it is worth destroying the village ("they", the "DNC", AIPAC-Democrats, etc.) in order to save this democracy for ... Republicans?

Is that your end game, Speaks?

#41 | Posted by A_Friend

Whether THEY (the dems who stuck to tradition and chose to do nothing after fascists attempted a coup and russia installed operatives in the white house) are worse than republicans is a matter of semantics.

They are the reason we are in this nightmare. They are the cop who let the criminal go before that criminal comes back and murders you.

They let down the founders and anyone who has ever given their life for the constitution.

#44 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You believe that Republicans are better than Democrats ("Whether THEY (the dems who stuck to tradition and chose to do nothing after fascists attempted a coup and russia installed operatives in the white house) are worse than republicans is a matter of semantics.")

Not semantics:

Clarence Thomas
Samuel Alito
Sonia Sotomayor
Elena Kagan
Neil Gorsuch
Brett Kavanaugh
Amy Coney Barrett
Ketanji Brown Jackson
Joh Roberts

Not semantics:

President Donald Trump 2025"present
Vice President JD Vance 2025"present
Secretary of State Marco Rubio 2025"present
Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent 2025"present
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth 2025"present
Attorney General Pam Bondi 2025"2026
Todd Blanche (Acting) 2026"present
Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum 2025"present
Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins 2025"present
Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick 2025"present
Secretary of Labor Lori Chavez-DeRemer 2025"present
Secretary of Health and
Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 2025"present
Secretary of Housing and
Urban Development Scott Turner 2025"present
Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy 2025"present
Secretary of Energy Chris Wright 2025"present
Secretary of Education Linda McMahon 2025"present
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Doug Collins 2025"present
Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem 2025"2026
Markwayne Mullin 2026"present
Administrator of the
Environmental Protection Agency Lee Zeldin 2025"present
Director of the Office of
Management and Budget Russell Vought 2025"present
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard 2025"present
Director of the
Central Intelligence Agency John Ratcliffe 2025"present
United States Trade Representative Jamieson Greer 2025"present
Administrator of the
Small Business Administration Kelly Loeffler 2025"present
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles 2025"present

#45 But Republican/Trump appointees (top to bottom) are so much better than FDR/Truman/JFK/LBJ/JC/BC/BO/JB appointees, right?

#44 Speaks says, "They let down the founders and anyone who has ever given their life for the constitution."

So, let's be sure to burn down the Democratic Party and ensure that the Republicans hold the reigns of power for 70+ more years (sort of like the Civil War through the Depression).

That'll teach those Democrats...

Right, Speaks?

They are the reason we are in this nightmare. They are the cop who let the criminal go before that criminal comes back and murders you.
#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

That's like blaming crime by illegal aliens on whoever was President at the time.

You don't think being criminals is a whole lot worse than being bad at catching criminals?

Seriously, you blame the cops for every crime that happens? Do you live inside an incarceration facility?

-They are who voters are GIVEN to support by the corporate/israeli owned DNC.

Yeah, both parties have that issue. I know you don't understand that.

You realize you're arguing there aren't any meaningful differences between the parties.

You don't believe that but you're arguing it regardless.

LOL

You believe that Republicans are better than Democrats

#45 | Posted by A_Friend

You keep saying that after I keep saying it's not true. That's weird.

-They are who voters are GIVEN to support by the corporate/israeli owned DNC.

Yeah, both parties have that issue. I know you don't understand that.

You realize you're arguing there aren't any meaningful differences between the parties.

#49 | Posted by eberly

No that's just want you want to hear.

Republicans are evil, democrats are weak. That's a difference.

Weakness can be improved. Evil can't.

So, let's be sure to burn down the Democratic Party and ensure that the Republicans hold the reigns of power for 70+ more years (sort of like the Civil War through the Depression).

That'll teach those Democrats...

Right, Speaks?

#47 | Posted by A_Friend

The DNC has already ensured that.
Their last chance was the Bernie movement. They could have embraced that populist anger and won, but instead they pushed the populists away. And who was waiting there to make populist promises to them? Putin's orange hyena.

"Republicans are evil, democrats are weak. That's a difference."

Yet you blame the weak for the actions of the evildoers.

#53 Thank you, Snoofy.

-Weakness can be improved.

How? I agree about evil....won't waste my time trying to convert folks from that.

but how do you fix weak?

I hire salespeople. I find bad people (we'll call them evil)....can't fix that and I'll pass on them.

But I also find weak people. Timid, lacking impact, etc....can't fix that either really...or I stopped trying a long time ago.

You're really gonna keep telling yourselves its weakness that democrats take money from billionaires, cave to special interests, etc? The GOP can say no but they do it anyway because they're evil. Democrats simply can't say no because they're weak?

LOL...I love seeing the world through your eyes.....it's ------- hilarious.

you wonder why I think you're all a joke

"Weakness can be improved"

You're weak. You haven't improved on that.

Point to a successful person who was weak.....but they "improved"?

Keep in mind.....none of this is a defense for anybody's bad behavior....I'll keep voting for democrats because often it's the lesser of 2 evils.

Oh...can I say that since you've declared no democrats are evil.....just weak?

Extreme leftists are all in total denial of their status as an extreme dem.

Proof? Believing Bernie Sanders was really going to get all the democratic party votes because they themselves are such big Bernie fans.

They assign their level of leftism to all lefties when in fact, that's nowhere true.

Many on the left are moderate and were not comfortable with Bernie....period. And that's fine....stop crying about how most democrats are NOT your friend.

#55 | #56 | #57 Also, thank you.

#52 speaks actually says, "The DNC has already ensured that. Their last chance was the Bernie movement."

So, according to you, speaks, the DNC (and, by extension, all Democratic Party candidates) are incorrigible.

Yet, you claim you are against Trump/MAGA/Republicans.

So, speaks, are you against all Democratic Party candidates, because they're all a product of the DNC and therefore incorrigible?

Or are you pro-Republican/Trump/MAGA Party candidates, speaks, because they're not Democrats?

Which is is, speaks?

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Are you against all Democratic Party candidates?

Or are you just pro Republican/Trump/MAGA Party candidates, speaks?

What is your definition of "extreme leftist"?

What Americans consider "extreme leftist" closely resembles what Europeans considers moderates.

It's a shame expecting our tax dollars to pay for things like healthcare, education, childcare and geriatric care is considered "extreme leftist" instead of basic human rights.

As for Bernie Sanders.

We can only speculate.

the DNC (and, by extension, all Democratic Party candidates) are incorrigible.

I guess we're going to find out whether America or Israel means more to the DNC (and, by extension, all Democratic Party candidates).

I can tell you one thing. Votes are done with corporate democrats.

Change is coming to America one way or the other.

"We can only speculate."

When you're doing that, remind yourself he never faced an industrial-strength attack ad.

The oppo would've slaughtered him (wrongly) as a Communist, and (rightly) as someone who wanted to raise your taxes A LOT.

Remember all of HRC's negative ads against Bernie?

Nobody else does either.

Why would Hillary need to go negative?

She had all the superdelegates in her pocket from the jump.

The entire 2016 democratic primaries were a charade.

It's one of the (many) factors that worked against her.

Remember all of HRC's negative ads against Bernie?

Can you imagine what the RNC had teed up?

Absolutely nothing.

Why would they have wasted they're time when it was clear Hillary was the nominee.

As we can already see, there will be a lot of pressure from the far left for the Dems to ---- this up by focusing on identity politics and eliminating billionaires and Israel.

And ensuring that there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant.

Oh look, the bootlicker who served in our socialist military and lives in democratic socialist Germany has an opinion about why working class Americans should shut the fkkk up and continue to eat shht.

Thanks for your two cents.

Go back to living in a democratic socialist nation in your socialist system.

-What is your definition of "extreme leftist"?

That's a fair question...at the moment, it's someone who is outwardly expressing frustration that the entire democratic party doesn't lean as far to the left as they are.

So they are throwing out terms like "weak" and say things like "democrats deserve to lose"....but can't muster the courage to just admit that some democrats simply don't lean that far left.

-The oppo would've slaughtered him (wrongly) as a Communist, and (rightly) as someone who wanted to raise your taxes A LOT.

Finish that thought.......and that oppo would have scared the ---- out of democrats

and why would it have scared democrats? Because not all democrats want what Bernie is selling.......

"Oh look, the bootlicker who served in our socialist military and lives in democratic socialist Germany has an opinion about why working class Americans should shut the fkkk up and continue to eat shht."

Um, it's the working class that has no interest in identity politics or a nation without borders. In fact, the "working class" may be the group that is most against those things.

In other words, your mortal enemies. Although I don't think those ideas are popular in any demographic other than the far left. It's just that far left is loudest.

It's easy to be loud when you have nothing else going on in life.

"So they are throwing out terms like "weak" and say things like "democrats deserve to lose"....but can't muster the courage to just admit that some democrats simply don't lean that far left."

It's not just that, but the population writ-large is not going to vote for Bernie Sanders. Period. Evah. Or anyone like him. The Republican party is no longer a real party, it's a Trump supporting rubber stamp. The Dems are more organized, but they have created too big of a tent, to include those on the far left. And like I just said, those voices are the loudest. If the party moves in a way to satisfy them, then they lose the middle.

"That's a fair question...at the moment, it's someone who is outwardly expressing frustration that the entire democratic party doesn't lean as far to the left as they are."

See, this is where you've fallen victim to the rhetoric and now you're mindlessly reciting the liturgy.

The Democrat party isn't even moderately left.

They're Eisenhower Republicans, who like you, don't think girls should be required to have their -------- inspected by the State before playing school sports.

Now you might say the existence of taxes is a left wing idea. Or maybe that raising them is left wing, only leftists could ever raise taxes.

Somehow, you've goy yourself thinking that the fiduciary responsibility demonstrated by paying down our debts by putting our tax rates back where they were before we went into debt isn't a centrist or even fiscally conservative idea.

It's called democracy.
#28 | Posted by eberly

Not for long, if Republicans get their way!
#29 | Posted by snoofy

It must be girl day in your alt-gender world.
#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You aren't one of those "We Are Not A Democracy" girls, like Boaz?
Girlfriend, you're lying!

"They're Eisenhower Republicans, who like you, don't think girls should be required to have their -------- inspected by the State before playing school sports."

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Eisenhower Republicans would take umbrage with Barney showering in the girls' locker room because Barney felt like a girl that day...

Eisenhower Republicans were more concerned about taxation and the military industrial complex than all the devicive social issues that the modern corporate controlled GOP uses to split the vote and stay in power.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Eisenhower Republicans would take umbrage with Barney showering in the girls' locker room because Barney felt like a girl that day...
#79 | Posted by madbomber

Eisenhower Republicahs are educated enough to know that's not an accurate depiction of gender.

It's a shame you're not as educatef as an Eisenhower Republican. Instead you have a Trump Republican's understanding of gender, on par with a grade school child.

it's the working class that has no interest in identity politics or a nation without borders. In fact, the "working class" may be the group that is most against those things.
#75 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Look at this moron pontificate about things he hasn't a clue about.

You've never been part of the working class. You've always been part of our socialist military.

Your greatest asset is you're an expendable commodity.

It's a shame you haven't died for your country.

I don't know how we got onto Eisenhower Republicans and I don't care, but there's no relationship to that what we're talking about now. There is a 0% chance that Eisenhower Republicans would've imagined we would be discussing what's a boy versus what's a girl.

Deflecting to Eisenhower Republicans is just another way of conceding the point entirely to me

it's the working class that has no interest in identity politics or a nation without borders.
#75 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

You suck at knowing what identity politics is.

The biggest act of Identity Politics in America today is to wear a MAGA hat.

Before that, it was Congressmen wearing AR-15 lapel pins to celebrate school shootings.

"You've never been part of the working class. You've always been part of our socialist military."

I guess I've never thought of it that way. I view an infantryman as someone in very much a blue-collar job.

Or a mechanic, a sniper, or those guys standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier

"There is a 0% chance that Eisenhower Republicans would've imagined we would be discussing what's a boy versus what's a girl."

Because they wouldn't care.

This isn't a thing for a fiscally conservative person to care about.

There's no economic angle here at all, beyond the observation that women's sports is a huge growth industry right now and as such should probably get some support from the government.

The Dems are more organized, but they have created too big of a tent, to include those on the far left. If the party moves in a way to satisfy them, then they lose the middle.
#76 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Who gives a shht about the middle. Not the Republican Party.

The middle are a bunch of idiots who gave us Trump.

The middle are a bunch of morons who can't tell the difference between Trump and Bernie.

The middle is who gave us worthless Biden.

The middle is what's killing the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party was strongest when they were the party of FDR. When they were pushing for socialist programs to help Americans.

It's why democrats were strong for decades. They were the party of the people.

It was decades before republicans destroyed public education and used talk hate radio to poison rural America.

-It's a shame you haven't died for your country.

You act like madbomber ------ your boyfriend.

Why?

-Who gives a shht about the middle.

The Democratic Party

Earlier you asked me what is an extreme leftist.

Look in the mirror

"Republicans are evil, democrats are weak. That's a difference."

Yet you blame the weak for the actions of the evildoers.

#53 | Posted by snoofy

No i blame the weak for surrendering their best chance to stop being weak.

I love it when people act like they oppose hatred and intolerance, but then express hatred and intolerance for people on their own side of the fence

I view an infantryman as someone in very much a blue-collar job.

You're of the opinion our military is simply a bunch of freelance employees ?

Showing up to preform a job they've been hired for?

And at the end of the project they're done?

Can I train under a veteran and be qualified for work?

Proof? Believing Bernie Sanders was really going to get all the democratic party votes because they themselves are such big Bernie fans.

They assign their level of leftism to all lefties when in fact, that's nowhere true.

Many on the left are moderate and were not comfortable with Bernie....period. And that's fine....stop crying about how most democrats are NOT your friend.

#57 | Posted by eberly

The proof was the size and energy of the bernie rallies compared to the hillary rallies. Perhaps you've already forgotten 2015 but not everyone has.

The additional proof are the number of people who complain "I only voted for trump because of what the DNC did to bernie".

Why would a bernie supporter vote for trump once bernie was no longer an option? What must their highest priority have been?

No i blame the weak for surrendering their best chance to stop being weak.
#91 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Let me know throughout history which societies flourished when they found the right people to blame!
Worked great in Germany right?
Working great in Gaza right?

You seem like you'll never get over the fact that your crush on the Democrats didn't result in Democrats inviting you to the Prom.

Your Hurt Feeling is all that's left of you now.

You're like a Democratic Eberly.

#52 speaks actually says, "The DNC has already ensured that. Their last chance was the Bernie movement."

So, according to you, speaks, the DNC (and, by extension, all Democratic Party candidates) are incorrigible.

#59 | Posted by A_Friend

You are really terrible at drawing conclusions from my statements.

Bernie was their last chance because that was the last chance they had to harness the anti elite populist energy in the country.

Once they surrendered that energy to trump, it was game over.

But yes, the DNC has shown they are incorrigible. My last straw with them was when they did their 2024 election post-mortem study to find out why they lost to trump again. Do you know what it concluded? Nope. They buried the results. They literally refuse to learn from their mistakes because they're addicted to bribes and status quo.

You seem like you'll never get over the fact that your crush on the Democrats didn't result in Democrats inviting you to the Prom.

Your Hurt Feeling is all that's left of you now.

You're like a Democratic Eberly.

#95 | Posted by snoofy

I will never get over the fact that dems had the power to prosecute the most criminal treasonous leader we've ever had and didn't do it. Nor should you. It was democracy's last chance at survival and they betrayed their oaths of office to let it pass by.

"I will never get over the fact"

We know.
You found your hill, you're gonna keep dying on it for us.
Your disappointment is Turned Down For Prom Suicide Attempt.
You sound like a prancing little ------.
Find a better hobby.

Earlier you asked me what is an extreme leftist.
Look in the mirror
#90 | POSTED BY EBERLY

So an "extreme leftist" is me, a person who advocates for our tax dollars to pay for things like healthcare, education, childcare and geriatric care, instead of endless wars and subsidies for billionaires.

How awful.

No wonder you're a moderate.

Whether Trump burns through billions on wars and golf trips and gold toilets, or Americans get healthcare and education, it's all the same to a moderate.

"Eisenhower Republicahs are educated enough to know that's not an accurate depiction of gender."

Yeah...I don't know that Eisenhower republicans would have (or do) regard gender as a feeling...

"Because they wouldn't care. This isn't a thing for a fiscally conservative person to care about."

That I agree with. Because that's me. If you're a dude who feels like a chick, go for it. I don't care. Feel like a banana for all I care. Just don't expect me to play along with the nonsense.

Feel like a banana for all I care. Just don't expect me to play along with the nonsense.

You've been trained your entire life to follow orders.

One has to wonder who's ordering you to be an --------.

You poor poor thing.

"-Who gives a shht about the middle. The Democratic Party"

I think they do care, actually. It's just that the middle tends to be more socially conservative than the far-left. So, as a party, the DNC has to choose between appealing to the middle-the centrists-or to the Klownshaks.

I personally think the Dems would crush the elections if they ditched the far left and focused on issues the center cares about.

Just don't expect me to play along with the nonsense.
#101 | Posted by madbomber

That sounds like a statement that means absolutely nothing, other than telling us you don't like how trans people are allowed to exist.

What specifically would you be doing differently in your life if you "played along?"

"Who gives a shht about the middle."

Malcom cares. He's always in the middle.

"So an "extreme leftist" is me, a person who advocates for our tax dollars to pay for things like healthcare, education, childcare and geriatric care, instead of endless wars and subsidies for billionaires."

Cool.

What rate should the VAT in the US be? 10%? 15%? 25%

You tell me.

the DNC has to choose between appealing to the middle-the centrists-or to the Klownshaks.

One has to wonder why the Republican Party doesn't worry about courting moderates and independents.

They ran on the, "We're going to destroy America" ticket and won.

FDR didn't care about moderates. He passed legislation that has benefited Americans for generations.

You're an -------- who has his life protected by socialism and can't stand for other to have their lives protected by socialism as well.

Feel like a banana for all I care. Just don't expect me to play along with the nonsense.

You've been trained your entire life to follow orders.
~ Clownshack

This is literally someone not following orders, or peer pressure.

"What specifically would you be doing differently in your life if you "played along?"

Um, playing along.

Do you think it should be an obligation that society "plays along?" But it's unreasonable for the trans person to keep their cosplay to themselves?

One has to wonder why the Republican Party doesn't worry about courting moderates and independents.

Because moderates and independents are fleeing Democrat party and they have no other choices. This is part of the winner take all issue.

the Dems would crush the elections if they ditched the far left and focused on issues the center cares about.
#103 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

That's what they did in 2016 and 2024.

How'd that turn out for America?

Oh that's right, republicans increased the military budget, which benefits you.

No wonder you love Republicans so much.

"Cool. What rate should the VAT in the US be?"

The VAT is NOT a progressive tax.

Our current fiscal problem is the code isn't progressive enough.

Your suggestion would (once again) shift the tax burden onto poorer classes.

"One has to wonder why the Republican Party doesn't worry about courting moderates and independents."

How do you think the Republicans won in 2024?

It's almost as if you're trying to rationalize a dictatorship by a minority comprised of those who share your values. Kinda like the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

"Because moderates and independents are fleeing Democrat party..."

All Electoral evidence to the contrary.

Do you think it should be an obligation that society "plays along?"

Yes, Snoofy doesn't understand origins of the trans guilt language he uses.

Snoofy is actually "playing along" as well.

"Your suggestion would (once again) shift the tax burden onto poorer classes."

Or, it would mirror every other western country.

I'm off to Norway tomorrow afternoon. The VAT in Norway is 25%.

I don't often hear progressives referring to Norway is a politically regressive country.

"All Electoral evidence to the contrary."

If you're talking right now, I would agree with you. Two years ago, not so much.

The Dems isolated much of the middle by embracing identity politics.

Cool.
What rate should the VAT in the US be? 10%? 15%? 25%
You tell me.
#106 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Who gives a shht.

We're spending billions a day on a war in the Middle East on the behest of Israel.

The money isn't the problem.

It's the fact our government is unwilling to spend it on Americans.

"Or, it would mirror every other western country."

...every country that puts the burden on the middle class.

At least finish the sentence, and do it honestly. Be sure to add in the social benefits the taxes fund.

Amazing, what you can afford when you're not borrowing money to hand tax cuts to billionaires.

How do you think the Republicans won in 2024?
#113 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Democrats abandoned the left.

Plus a bunch of idiots believed Trump wanted peace.

Ask LftHndTurds. He kept raving about Trump bringing peace to the world.

How do you think the Republicans won in 2024?
#113 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Democrats failed to have a primary, and then went too far left by nominating a woman.

@#119 ... Amazing, what you can afford when you're not borrowing money to hand tax cuts to billionaires. ...

Yup.

it would mirror every other western country.
#116 | Posted by madbomber

No it wouldn't.
The Tax alone wouldn't mirror the West.
You'd also need the Spend, and you don't want that.

"...every country that puts the burden on the middle class."

Which is pretty much all of them.

"The federal government has some scope to raise more money from high earners. But the idea that the main problem with the existing system that tax rates are too flat is wrong. In 2018 the lowest fifth of earners on average paid no net federal taxes at all. The top 1% paid a total rate (ie, after all deductions) of 30%, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Include state and local levies, and high earners face a marginal tax rate on each extra dollar they take home"the rate that matters for work incentives"which is middling by rich-country standards. Tax refunds for poor families are exceptionally generous. In 2019 a single parent of two children earning two-thirds of average pay faced total net labour taxes of only 10%, according to analysis by the OECD, a club of mostly rich countries. In egalitarian Sweden the rate was nearly 33%."

www.economist.com

The Dems isolated much of the middle by embracing identity politics.
#117 | Posted by madbomber

Republicans came out against gay marriage and later trans people simply existing.

That's identity politics, and Republicans are the ones who started playing it.

Finding a scapegoat is identity politics, and that's what Republicans have done with Trans rights.

Democrats simply stand for human rights for all; that's been the Democrats identity since the Civil Rights Era.

You have it backwards, because you have nourished yourself of the Gay Panic hysteria manufactured in the 50s, now being re-written as a Trans Panic.

"You'd also need the Spend, and you don't want that."

I don't understand your comment. Without the spend, there would be no need for a VAT.

VAT or no VAT, I just find it interesting that progressives, let's use Bernie as a case in point, argue that the US needs to be more like the western European countries...until it comes to something like the VAT.

"I don't understand your comment. Without the spend, there would be no need for a VAT."

What's the VAT supposed to be spent on?

"until it comes to something like the VAT."

Because the VAT is a regressive tax. And you want to replace parts of the sole progressive tax, with regressive taxes.

What part of the equation baffles you?

"In 2018 the lowest fifth of earners on average paid no net federal taxes at all."

It has been
0
Days

Since MadBomber pretended the Federal Income Tax is the only Federal tax.

"Republicans came out against gay marriage and later trans people simply existing."

Dude, Drag Queens have been a thing as long as I have been alive. And no one cared. It was only when the queens began demanding that they be recognized as something they weren't that it got political.

#129

Thank you for the credit, but that duly goes to the Ways and Means department at The Economist.

Because the VAT is a regressive tax. And you want to replace parts of the sole progressive tax, with regressive taxes.

"An argument against VAT is that it is regressive, because the poor consume more of their incomes than the rich. But the poor also have the most to gain from better public services and faster economic growth. In any case, vat is less regressive when measured against lifetime, rather than annual, income; raising the tax would affect rich retirees who spend out of wealth and no longer pay labour taxes. Another argument against increasing VAT today is that doing so would raise prices and add to measured inflation. But inflation has fallen significantly. If increases were phased in gradually, the effects would be manageable."

www.economist.com

That doesn't negate the VAT being regressive.
That simply attempts to justify a regressive tax, and do it without any of that pesky math.

It's not even a counter argument.
Because nobody who understands math would ever argue a flat tax isn't regressive.

"But inflation has fallen significantly."

Has it now.

Thank you for the credit, but that duly goes to the Ways and Means department at The Economist.
#131 | Posted by madbomber

It's quite telling that you continue to ingest and regurgitate factually inaccurate material, after being told for at least a decade now that it's factually inaccurate.

#135

Um, it's the Economist. It's like the New England Journal of Medicine, but for economics.

That's not to say that they couldn't be wrong, but it's far more likely that you are. Just like I'm sure that there are those who disregard the positions of those edumacated contributors to NEJM.

You don't need no edumacation, do ya Snoof. You was born smart.

I asked the AI:

The statement is incorrect; in 2018, the lowest fifth of earners did not pay no net federal taxes, though they paid a very small amount. According to IRS data, the bottom 50% of filers collectively paid only 2.3% of all income taxes in 2021, a figure that reflects the trend starting after the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

Specifically, Congressional Budget Office data shows that in 2007 (a more typical year), the poorest fifth of households paid an average of 4.0% of their incomes in federal taxes. While the share of the bottom half of earners dropping to 2.96% by 2022 indicates a decline, the data confirms they still paid a net amount rather than zero.

Payroll Taxes: Most low-income workers are subject to payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare), which are distinct from federal income tax.
Other Taxes: These households also pay federal excise taxes (e.g., on gasoline) and state and local taxes, which are not included in the "no federal income tax" statistic.
Net Position: When including transfers like the Earned Income Tax Credit, the lowest quintile may receive more from the government than they pay in taxes, resulting in a negative net tax rate (e.g., -127% in 2019 analysis), but this is different from paying zero taxes.
search.brave.com

It's also ridiculous to look at "net" when it comes to taxation.
What's my net gain or loss when the USPS brings a piece of mail to my house?

You don't need no edumacation, do ya Snoof. You was born smart.
#137 | Posted by madbomber

I went back to school when I as 40 because I'm smart.

"Thank you for the credit, but that duly goes to the Ways and Means department at The Economist."

Neither of whom pretend they're talking about THE ONLY taxes that count.

That'd be you.

" a figure that reflects the trend starting after the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act."

Translation: Republicans passed a surgical tax cut on Tuesday, so beginning Wednesday they could complain about "less people paying taxes".

The phrase itself is a misnomer, of course, because a) they're not counting the LARGEST tax, and b) they score things differently than in the past. How? Republicans have historically stuffed child-rearing subsidies onto the 1040, specifically to bolster their talking point not enough people "pay taxes".

"I will never get over the fact"

We know.
You found your hill, you're gonna keep dying on it for us.
Your disappointment is Turned Down For Prom Suicide Attempt.
You sound like a prancing little ------.
Find a better hobby.

#98 | Posted by snoofy

It's the hill the nation died on stupid.

I have the clarity to point it out. You are still defending the oath breaking doormats who let it happen.

"You are still defending the oath breaking doormats who let it happen."

Again,
Who do you blame for the fact that crime happens, criminals or cops?

And again:
Name the nation that improved itself by blaming juuust the right people.

Who do you blame for the fact that crime happens, criminals or cops?

#144 | Posted by snoofy

Crime happens because of criminals.

Society is upheld by the prosecution of criminals.

Those who choose not to prosecute criminals lead society to downfall.

Name the nation that improved itself by blaming juuust the right people.

#145 | Posted by snoofy

If you don't know who to blame how can you avoid empowering them again in the future to make more massive blunders?

Crime happens because of criminals.
Society is upheld by the prosecution of criminals.
#146 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

That's what ICE says, you stupid piece of ----.

"If you don't know who to blame how can you avoid empowering them again in the future to make more massive blunders?"

And what's the opportunity cost when you avoid empowering Democrats?
Does it empower anybody else, or do your choices mean nothing?

"In any case, vat is less regressive when measured against lifetime, rather than annual, income"

Translation: if we move the goal posts just right, so we can cherry-pick and create a NEW metric, our argument looks ... well ... less worse.

"vat is less regressive"

Oh so it's still regressive.
That's your favorite part about the VAT.

"vat is less regressive when measured against lifetime, rather than annual, income"

Really, that $7.25 CA sales tax per $100 spent took a bigger slice of the pie when I was making $7.25/hr, compared to when I was making $50/hr?

Crime happens because of criminals.
Society is upheld by the prosecution of criminals.
#146 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

That's what ICE says, you stupid piece of ----.

#148 | Posted by snoofy

ICE eats sandwiches. Does that mean sandwiches shouldnt be eaten?

It's a simple fact that if laws aren't enforced then society will fall.
Why have laws at all if they wont be enforced?

Why defend any political group that refused to do their jobs to enforce the laws against the most dangerous traitors we've seen in generations?

Why defend any political group that does a study to determine why they keep losing, then hides the results of that study because it would offend their donors?

"If you don't know who to blame how can you avoid empowering them again in the future to make more massive blunders?"

And what's the opportunity cost when you avoid empowering Democrats?
Does it empower anybody else, or do your choices mean nothing?

#149 | Posted by snoofy

I didn't say not to empower democrats. I said not to empower the gutless wimps who lacked the courage to prosecute fascist traitors and terrorists.

Why defend any political group that does a study to determine why they keep losing, then hides the results of that study because it would offend their donors?
Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-04-10 04:11 PM | Reply: Cover ups continue in the US, that's the American way.

The DNC is such a corrupt trash organization that it's ripe for an outsider to come in and topple the whole thing like trump did to the GOP.

Call them out on their big money addition. Call them out on their subservience to israel. Call them out on not prosecuting trump's crimes.

Mock them. Embarrass them. They deserve it.

Then offer real policies for the people and punishment for the corrupt oligarchs.

Vote for these Democrats, like we did in NYC for the amiable and effective Zohran Mamdani: Non-AIPAC Democrats

American voters shouldn't be held hostage to extortion any more, that's why turn-out rates are so low:

"Well, if you don't vote for 'moderate' (AKA AIPAC or Corporate) Democrats, you'll be stuck with perpetual Republican rule. So, there!"

Sounds like a hostage situation for the FBI:

And we have been stuck in the US with perpetual oligarchic rule for centuries while making life miserable for people in USCENTCOM AOR for decades.

The hardworking American taxpayer has been complicit in denying the concept of 'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness' to millions of people in the Middle East: Ask the Palestinians, the Lebanese, or the Iranians.