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The new wave of Democrats and progressives, he argued, are repeating the same mistakes that cost the party in the past. "These people are so f"ing stupid I don't know what to say about it," said Carville, who previously served as a senior adviser to former President Clinton. "So now we have this idea that these insurgent Democrats. And what is their solution?" "Is their solution to beat Republicans, to run against Republicans? No! Their solution is to beat Democrats like they're part of the problem," he continued. "You are part of the problem because you're a f-king idiot!"

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lfthndthrds:

"You are part of the problem because you're a f-king idiot!"

Carville? That lizard? Has his wife returned to the Republican Party?

#1 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-12 01:04 PM | Reply

Carville: "why won't poor people just shut up about wanting their taxes to go to aiding their communities rather than going to fund billionaires and their wars!!!!"

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-12 01:14 PM | Reply

Carville? That lizard? Has his wife returned to the Republican Party?

Nothing like kicking people out of the big tent.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-12 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who gives a ---- what this tired old Has Been thinks?

Clinton was a Corrupt and almost Trumplike loser.

Centrist Democrats are the Problem, not the Solution.

Act like Republicans so you can defeat Republicans is their Motto.

The problem is, their policies are REPUBLICAN.

So Why Vote for them,when Real Republicans are Available.

At least the Socialists aren't trying to become Republicans without admitting it to get more "Donor" Cash.

The Clinton's destroyed the Democratic Party for their own Aggrandizement.

Trump won Because of Them.

Not in Spite of them.

No Hillary, No Trump.

No Bill, No Hill.

Carville is a dumbass.

#4 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-12 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nothing like kicking people out of the big tent.

You directing that comment to Carville?

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-12 01:16 PM | Reply

2025: "James Carville called Zohran Mamdani's NYC mayoral primary victory a 'potentially damaging event' for the Democratic Party."

And then Zohran won.

Who still interviews this corporate fossil?

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-12 01:28 PM | Reply

Re 4

You personally may not like it but people still listen to Carville.

And

When everyone is corrupt no one is corrupt.

And

Less is More.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-12 01:31 PM | Reply

Less what?

#8 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-12 01:34 PM | Reply

When Everyone is Corrupt, Everything is Corrupted.

It's like Fish in water. They don't realize it's there all the time.

Their entire world is Water.

Is our Entire Political World Corruption?

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-12 01:37 PM | Reply

On Election Day Tuesday 3 Nov 1992, Bill Clinton won the White House with a plurality, not a majority of the vote. And with an abysmal 58.1% turnout of eligible voters.

Bill Clinton (D): 43.0%

Incumbent POTUS George H.W. Bush (R): 37.5%

Third Party Ross Perot (I): 18.9%

More people voted against Bill Clinton, than for him.

#10 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-07-12 01:44 PM | Reply

Less what?

#8 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

You ramble a lot.

You sometimes actually make a point. Then proceed to ruin it by going on and on.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-12 02:09 PM | Reply

Is our Entire Political World Corruption?
#9 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Everything is political because humans are political animals.

Politics is the process used to gain and use power

Power corrupts.

America is an attempt to try and manage that power and hold it accountable to the People.

The jury is still out on whether we will succeed.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-12 02:14 PM | Reply

"why won't poor people just shut up about wanting their taxes to go to aiding their communities rather than going to fund billionaires and their wars!!!!"

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-12 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Poor people don't pay taxes.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-12 02:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

He will talk --- about every segment of the Party to try to get them to realize that it's a 2 Party System, and that being politically correct comes in second place to WINNING every time.

"If you are going carrying pictures of Chairman Jill, you ain't gonna make with anyone anyhow."

(apologies to John Lennon)

A winning Party needs a Big Tent.... or the other Party to split and field a Ross Perot, as Coriolanus points out.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2026-07-12 02:48 PM | Reply

Poor people don't pay taxes.

#13 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Lying liars and the lies they like to tell never cease to amaze me.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-12 02:55 PM | Reply

Clinton in 1996 crawled into bed drunkenly with Newt Gingrich and tolerated the Contract on America.

Want to discuss the prison industrial complex and how Black and brown youth fed it for decades?

Thanks, Clinton, and I presume that was a winning strategy for Carville. I certainly voted for Clinton then, as I did for Obama in his time. But history will show both to be conservative placeholders.

James Carville. I mean, I'd still listen to Henry Kissinger, but only for yuks.

#16 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-12 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Poor people don't pay taxes.
#13 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

They pay more than the rich do.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-07-12 03:14 PM | Reply

"Poor people don't pay taxes."

Nonsense. You're cherry-picking which taxes qualify, while leaving out the tax most workers pay the most.

It's Republican Math meets Vernon's Calculator.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-12 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Agreed they are representing the Old Way.

But I hear him. As I do any of my party elders. If they have something to say they should speak up.

But.. James Carville is not a Henry Kissinger.

James Carville is an American southern boy who was born in the South ... Carville, Louisiana (a town literally named after his paternal grandfather) and has the South in his blood. People (especially Southern people) tend to like that.

Henry Kissinger is a German who grew up in a German-Jewish family.Fled Nazi Germany with his family in 1938 to move to the United States.Became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1943 while serving in the U.S. Army.

In the end after the truth filtered out it does look like Henry Kissinger was a ruthless and possibly even a war criminal.

James Carville got sued once for defending Bill Clinton!

Yeah. Not the same lane.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-12 03:28 PM | Reply

-Nonsense. You're cherry-picking which taxes qualify, while leaving out the tax most workers pay the most.

Define "poor"

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-12 03:34 PM | Reply

You're a
Lying
Piece
of
----

Low-income individuals pay a significant portion of their earnings through regressive state and local taxes, as well as federal payroll and excise taxes, even if they owe little to no federal income tax.

In fact, the lowest-income households often pay a higher share of their income toward state and local taxes than wealthy households.
The most common taxes paid by poor individuals include:
Payroll Taxes: Workers pay 6.2% for Social Security and 1.45% for Medicare on every dollar earned. This is often the largest federal tax burden for low-income households.
Sales and Excise Taxes: These regressive taxes apply to purchases of goods and services. Lower-income individuals spend a much higher percentage of their overall income on necessities subject to sales tax, as well as specific excise taxes on items like gasoline, alcohol, and cigarettes.
Property Taxes: While renters do not pay this directly, landlords factor property taxes into rent prices, meaning low-income tenants ultimately bear much of this burden.
State and Local Income Taxes: Many states levy personal income taxes that begin at the very first dollar earned, which takes a larger relative bite out of lower budgets compared to flat or top-tiered tax rates.
Although lower-income workers do not pay much in federal income taxes"and often receive relief through the Earned Income Tax Credit or Child Tax Credit"the cumulative effect of these other taxes results in a steep overall tax burden.

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-07-12 03:39 PM | Reply

Define "poor"

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-12 03:34 PM | Reply

Jordan Peterson has entered the chat.

#22 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-12 03:40 PM | Reply

Poor people don't pay taxes.
#13 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

"Define Poor."

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-12 03:40 PM | Reply

#9

"Is our Entire Political World Corruption?"

Yes. Every politician's number one priority upon being elected is to work on getting re-elected. That means fund raising leading to pay for play schemes.

#24 | Posted by rf4b at 2026-07-12 03:46 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-12 03:34 PM | Reply

You're a prime example of what is wrong with this country

Not conservatism per se

But you and your ilk lie, shamelessly

Then build policy and cut taxes based on those lies

You're just a ------ human being

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-07-12 04:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Define "poor""

Why would that matter, when you don't know how to define "taxes" ... ?

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-12 05:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#12 America Failed at attempting to keep the Power with the people for the first time with the Whisky Rebellion in 1790.

That was George Washington's Failure.

Centralized Government generally represses.

It's a Necessary Evil but repression is at its core.

Trump's attempts to Federalize All Elections is another example of the Expansion of Central Control.

True Democracy means Decentralized control and local Government,not Top down Corporate Absolutism.

We Failed at that a Long time Ago.

Centralized Government has a place in Government, managing Environmental damage comes to mind. Creating a Stable civil service comes to mind.

Frankly, Anti Trust Enforcement also comes to mind.

Military Deployment has been overplayed, Less is More in that.

There is a fundamental tension between Local Freedom and Control and a Large diverse Nation.

People like Clinton and Trump are Exploitative. They create Crisis to use Government like a Bludgeon.

It generally works too.

#27 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-12 05:03 PM | Reply

1794, But the general idea is Valid.

Washington asserted federal control over people refusing to pay excise taxes on liquor.

They felt unjustly taxed,just like the Rich Oligarchs who started the American Revolution over the Same Damned Thing.

Washington,Jefferson, Madison,Monroe. They all OWNED Human Beings to Steal their Labor and Freedom.

They also wanted to Steal more Indian Land as the Crown forbade settlements west of the Alleghenies.

The Founding Fathers were Greedy and Rapacious Men.

Not Angels.

Our Entire history is Clinton and Trump.

Exploitation.

Oligarchy.

White Domination of everyone else.

There's No way to pretty that up.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-12 05:16 PM | Reply

"Our Entire history is Clinton and Trump."

Pretty sure our entire History is NOT Clinton and Trump.

Like I said.

With you less is more.

Less of you is a lot more better.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-12 05:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Not all Clinron and Trump is a valid Criticism.

Jackson was Worse than Trump.

McKinley was Worse than Clinton.

They all want to Aggrandize the Office and Themselves.

The American President is Too Powerful.

The Office itself is the Problem.

Too much Concentration of Power in one person.

It's an Elective Monarchy, always was.

The States should have Far More Power than they do.

Originally they did, but the Civil War Ended that Forever.

Now we have Federalism.

#30 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-12 05:58 PM | Reply

Carville's reduced himself to a "git offa my lawn" crackpot.

But, yeah, whatever.

#31 | Posted by Angrydad at 2026-07-12 06:06 PM | Reply

With the current democratic legislators, they are all AIPAC clones.

I welcome the new democrats.

#32 | Posted by fresno500 at 2026-07-12 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Carville is part of the problem, not the solution.

#33 | Posted by morris at 2026-07-12 11:01 PM | Reply

Like it or not, he's right.

Progressives won't win once you leave the coasts. But the Dems will push them anyway and hand Trump the hammer to pound in the final nail in the coffin of our Republic.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2026-07-13 12:33 AM | Reply

#34 He's full of ----.

He's a Shill for Republicans.

Clinton was more Republican, than Democrat.

Clinton barely slipped in only because Ross Perot divided the Republican Coalition.

Carville acts like he's some sort of a Seer.

And you buy that ---- because you have no Imagination or ability to see anything but more Status Quo.

The Democratic Establishment turns on any Progressive movement.

They would Rather Republicans Win actually.

They have an Orthodoxy about them Carville Succinctly Epitomizes.

That doesn't make them Infallible or all Seeing.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 12:43 AM | Reply

And you buy that ---- because you have no Imagination or ability to see anything but more Status Quo.

I recognize the reality that you idiots lose EVERY F*&^ING TIME.

The inconsistency between public support for "progressive" ideas and progressive's inability to get elected beyond the coasts has existed as long as I can remember.

What has also existed as long as I can remember is the reliable stupidity of progressives where a single round of wins turns into condescending lectures, moral preaching, budgetary free for all and an assumption that their social issues are as important to the regular voters who voted for them in that round, thus leading to a HUGE swing of the pendulum in the other direction.

This is the reality you idiots refuse to acknoweledge to the detriment of us all.

The Democratic Establishment turns on any Progressive movement.

They would Rather Republicans Win actually.

No, they wouldn't. They would rather you stop being childish morons, drop the self-righteous purity requirements and, oh I don't know, win more than one election before trying to cram your entire agenda through while you can't even agree on they/them vs xi/xe. Oh, and stop calling every slightly Progressive leaning Dem the next FDR with the next Big New Deal blah blah blah.

Y'all have terrible electoral track records and you're falling into the same patterns of failure you always do at a time when accepting a smaller win would have outsized effects on our Republic and would actually endear you to the electorate enough to maybe last longer than a single round of wins.

Anyways, the clouds have cleared here, so I'm going to go sit the dark back deck, drink a beer and marvel at the stars and Milky Way.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2026-07-13 01:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

I can't newsworthy flag #36 enough.

#37 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-07-13 01:32 AM | Reply

I didn't say any of that.

I said the Democratic Establishment hates Progressives,read Carville.

He foams at the mouth just like YOU, Guy.

You make my case For Me.

The Democratic party sandbags anyone not on their Approved list of Candidates.

They care more about Donations and Israel than they want to actually Win Elections.

I'm Sure they will hand select the Next Presidential candidate and Ram whomever they are thru no matter how the voters themselves actually Vote.

KAMALA never Won a single Primary.

Then she went on to Lose Decisively.

Your way isn't Working Fella.

Don't blame Progressives for Spurning your Candidates, actually hold Primaries and Abide by the Results.

#38 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 08:44 AM | Reply

"Carville acts like he's some sort of a Seer."

Yup. Always. Exactly. A Bill Maher with an Arkansas portfolio. Hoo boy.

Let's not forget Clinton's roots. A well-meaning and brilliant ego whore from a dirt-poor red state who had a JFK fixation. Who teamed up with a brilliant also flawed woman to ride to the top of government, personal foibles aside.

The Clintons didn't own a private residence until they left the White House.

Who's running Arkansas now? A succession of Huckabees?

#39 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-13 08:56 AM | Reply

Yes to everything about progressives and the coast.

In the quarter century of my life in Central Appalachia, and particularly pre-COVID when they were open 24 hours, I'd say that if you took just about any American from within fifty miles of an ocean and dropped them in a southwestern Virginia Walmart at 2am, they'd think "zombie apocalypse."

No, just pockmarked white folks, toting their entire families around (babies to grandmas), eyes wide like FBI chief Patel, looking a bit tense.

Good time for grocery shopping, though.

#40 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-13 09:02 AM | Reply

I didn't say any of that.

No s*^%, idiot, I said it.

I said the Democratic Establishment hates Progressives,read Carville.

I know what you said, I read and responded to that drivel.

He foams at the mouth just like YOU, Guy.

Stating a reality that's obvious to anyone with more than three functioning neurons isn't foaming at the mouth, "guy."

KAMALA never Won a single Primary.

Then she went on to Lose Decisively.

Your way isn't Working Fella.

Don't blame Progressives for Spurning your Candidates, actually hold Primaries and Abide by the Results.
#38 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Hey dips^%#, I was vocally against Harris as a candidate here. It's not "my way," idiot.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2026-07-13 09:45 AM | Reply

Less of you is a lot more better.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy

In 30 years as an editor, I've exactly once returned a manuscript with this comment:

"This book would have benefited from less of the author's original thinking."

And left it at that.

#42 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-07-13 10:40 AM | Reply

I say as much as necessary to make my point.

If that grates on you, it's not My Problem.

Brevity is the Essence of Wit?

I'm not trying to be witty.

I'm saying what I Think.

Snoofy's yer guy for Quips and incomplete ideas.

Where is he Anyway?

#43 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 11:03 AM | Reply

Carville, the most livid anti-Trumper out there.

#44 | Posted by MSgt at 2026-07-13 11:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Re 44

And proud of it.

Because like so many of us he believes Trump fundamentally dislikes traditional American values, the Constitution, democratic alliances, and the rule of law.

Carville expresses and puts to words the views of many Americans that Trump not just as a standard political opponent, but as an existential threat to the country.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-13 11:58 AM | Reply

Trump is a pure Nihlist.

His only Values are Self Aggrandizment,Grievance about Nonsense and making more Money.

He's the Worst President Imaginable.

He's an Existential Threat to the World,and Ecosystem, not just the US.

His Death will be a Glorious Thing.

#46 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-07-13 12:30 PM | Reply

This cobra headed jerk hoff has to eventually get it .

.. Those far left " f' ing stupid " people RUN THE DNC and they want no part of a

pathetic and MISERABLE old fart thirsting to be relevant again.

#47 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-07-13 02:59 PM | Reply

#47 shrimpy says, without a hint of reflection, "pathetic and MISERABLE old fart thirsting to be relevant again." - #47 | Posted by afkabl2 | Flag: Revealing

#48 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-13 03:03 PM | Reply

^ the village idiot is back.

#49 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-13 04:59 PM | Reply

#49 Left Hind Turds was lonely.

But s/he doesn't know how to express it above a caveman's emotions.

So, you end up with Left Hind Turds posting, well, Left Hind Turds things.

#50 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-07-13 05:35 PM | Reply

This cobra headed jerk hoff has to eventually get it .
#47 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Who's "Hoff" and what does he/she/it have to do with the Discordians?

Remember: "Synchronicity is as universal as gravity. When you start looking you find it everywhere."

#51 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-07-13 05:45 PM | Reply

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