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... and then there are the negotiations between Iran and Oman regarding the Strait of Hormuz ...

Oman, Iran seek deal to safeguard shipping through Hormuz Strait
www.dailysabah.com

So, the US is not involved in that deal?

Indeed, Pres Trump has threatened to bomb Oman.

Trump threatens to bomb US ally Oman if it 'gets in the way' over Iran deal
www.bbc.com


Wow.

Oman"United States relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oman%E2%80%93United_States_relations

... The United States relationship with Oman dates back 200 years, with American merchant ships making port calls in Oman as early as 1790. Oman was the first nation from the Arabian Peninsula to recognize the United States, sending an envoy in 1841.[1] ...


Bombing a long-term ally in the Middle East.


Secretary of War Crimes Pete Kegsbreath: Underqualified. Incompetent. Alcoholic. Vainglorious baboon. OPSEC failure. Misogynist. Walking Poison Ivy plant. Racist. Anti-LGBTQ. Career destroyer. Phony Christian. Sycophant. Former second-rate Faux News TV tumor. Blasphemer. Lothario. Witchhunter-General. Blunderer. Profligate money waster. Russophile.

"FUNNY"

From out in left field (but, what do you expect from King Missile?)...

King Missile - Jesus Was Way Cool (1990)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
Jesus was way cool
Everybody liked Jesus
Everybody wanted to hang out with him
Anything he wanted to do, he did

He turned water into wine
And if he wanted to
He could have turned wheat into marijuana
Or sugar into cocaine
Or vitamin pills into amphetamines

He walked on the water
And swam on the land
He would tell these stories
And people would listen
He was really cool

If you were blind or lame
You just went to Jesus
And he would put his hands on you
And you would be healed
That's so cool

He could've played guitar better than Hendrix
He could've told the future
He could've baked the most delicious cake in the world
He could've scored more goals than Wayne Gretzky
He could've danced better than Baryshnikov

Jesus could have been funnier than any comedian you can think of
Jesus was way cool

He told people to eat his body and drink his blood
That's so cool

Jesus was so cool

But then some people got jealous of how cool he was

So they killed him

But then he rose from the dead
He rose from the dead, danced around
Then went up to heaven
I mean, that's so cool
Jesus was way cool

No wonder there are so many Christians
...



Tom Waits - "Warm Beer And Cold Women"
www.youtube.com

Taj Mahal ~ ain't nobody's business
www.youtube.com

MUDDY WATERS -- BIG LEGGED WOMAN.
www.youtube.com

Champagne & Reefer
www.youtube.com

Patrick Sky
Child Molesting Blues
www.youtube.com

Betsy Legg "In The Early Morning Rain" 1971 US Private female Psych Folk

www.youtube.com

"According to the liner notes it was recorded at KINTEL Studios in Atlanta, Georgia.

The "band" was pretty minimal, with Betsy performing acoustic guitar and singing alongside Pam Rose (lead guitar), and Laymon Jackson (bass).

The songs were written by Tim Hardin, Bob Dylan (two songs), Leonard Cohen (two songs), John Denver, Gordon Lightfoot, Kris Kristofferson, Judy Collins and Ian Tyson."

this appears to be the full album:

www.youtube.com

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#50 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-21 09:48 PM
And all your current alias seems to have in reply is deflection.
So, allow me to ask once again ...
How many ships per day pass through the Strait now? Yer up ...
What does your current alias see?

So either your "current alias" didn't read my post or your "current alias" now pretends it didn't read it - let me repost, it was at the end:

|------- Besides that, there are verified reports of US Navy escorting some tankers through (similar to Operation Earnest Will in 1987-88), near the coast of Oman - depending on source, anywhere from 3M to 8M barrels are flowing out... though both numbers are far less than ~ 20M pre-closure and the insurance on these is much higher, thus still affecting the price of oil futures. -------|

So, again, your "current alias" keeps ignoring the answer and now deflected a second time by trying to change the subject and move the goal posts from inane "The Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz may be a more potent force to face the world than Iran possessing a nuclear bomb" by asking non sequitur question about the flow of oil through the Straight of Hormuz.

And your "current alias" has not addressed at all the issue of "Trump has taught them that", which they obviously knew and tried using many times since 1980, as we [hopefully, now] know from history (see link in my first post) - if anything, the question is whether he understood what he was getting into, because knowledge or understanding of history (or much else) is not his strong suit.

Maybe you should retire your "current alias" shtick - it has an "arrogant, not too smart" look and doesn't serve you well.
__________

Gordon Lightfoot - Rainy Day People (1975)
www.youtube.com


Lyrics excerpt ...

www.azlyrics.com

...
Rainy day people always seem to know when it's time to call
Rainy day people don't talk, they just listen till they've heard it all
Rainy day lovers don't lie when they tell 'ya they've been down like you
Rainy day people don't mind if you're cryin' a tear or two

If you get lonely, all you really need is that rainy day love
Rainy day people all know there's no sorrow they can't rise above
Rainy day lovers don't love any others, that would not be kind
Rainy day people all know how it hangs on a piece of mind

Rainy day lovers don't lie when they tell you, they've been down there too
Rainy day people don't mind if you're cryin' a tear or two.

Rainy day people always seem to know when you're feeling blue
High stepping strutters who land in the gutters sometimes need one too
Take it or leave it, or try to believe it
If you've been down too long

Rainy day lovers don't hide love inside they just pass it on
Rainy day lovers don't hide love inside they just pass it on
...


Eric Burdon & War - Spill The Wine (1970)
Beat-Club

www.youtube.com

What happens when you have too many psychedelics before your guitar intro:

www.youtube.com

(fortunately, your singer bails you out big time!)

Book written in 1970s.... pretty incredible read ..


"Day by day, month by month, doubt by doubt, law and order became fascism; education, constraint; work, alienation; revolution, mere sport; leisure, a privilege of class; marijuana, a harmless weed; family, a stifling hothouse; affluence, oppression; success, a social disease; sex, an innocent pastime; youth, a permanent tribunal; maturity, the new senility; discipline, an attack on personality; Christianity... and the West... and white skin..."

The Camp of the Saints
www.amazon.com

here's a review.


Equally so, as the Raspail book so clearly portrays, is the extraordinary cultural difference between many peoples and that the only way to maintain a Culture and Civilization that you value and want is to defend it against the opposing human conflicts for domination and control of our world. This Raspail book, using fiction, hallmarks a stark confrontation and truth that no human civilization can survive unless it chooses, defends and values itself . People kill, torture, enslave and destroy each other with regularity. In the long view of human history war and competition for resources defines a part of the human experience and such battles and killing is what, in part, has brought us to what we are today, for better or worse.

You think your current life is all that exists, and it is for you. But if you're a liberal you understand that you are but a blink in the history of time, for all those that came before or will come after.

What world are you going to leave? This isn't a conservative or liberal issue, its do you want your values to survive.
That is the struggle Americans and the Europeans are up against, and right now the answer is no you don't want your values to survive.

In the 90s Americans proclaimed EndOfHistory .... Looks like they were wrong... what are you going to do?

Vices? Well that is what The House Of The Rising Sun is all about: www.youtube.com

Another: "Bottle of Wine" was written and originally recorded by American folk singer-songwriter Tom Paxton in 1965, though Judy Collins first released a recording of it in 1964
www.youtube.com

Speaking of the vice of the Vietnam War ...

Bruce Cockburn - If I Had A Rocket Launcher (1984)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
[Verse 1]
Here comes the helicopter
Second time today
Everybody scatters
And hopes it goes away
How many kids they've murdered
Only God can say, hey

[Chorus]
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
I'd make somebody pay

[Verse 2]
I don't believe in guarded borders
And I don't believe in hate
I don't believe in generals
Or their stinking torture states
And when I talk with the survivors
Of things too sickening to relate

[Chorus]
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
I would retaliate
See Bruce Cockburn Live
Get tickets as low as $42
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Timeless (Taylor's Version) [From The Vault]
Taylor Swift
[Verse 3]
On the Rio Lacantn
One hundred thousand wait
To fall down from starvation
Or some less humane fate
Cry for Guatemala
With a corpse in every gate

[Chorus]
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
I would not hesitate

[Verse 4]
I wanna raise every voice
At least I've got to try
Every time I think about it
Water rises to my eyes
Situation desperate
Echoes of the victims cry

[Chorus]
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
If I had a rocket launcher
Some son of a bitch would die
...


Black Flag - Slip It In (1987)
www.youtube.com

(there's some censoring [possibly an understatement] of the lyrics in the link, but what might be expected of an "official release?")

The album I have does not have that censoring.

Stan Ridgway " Camouflage (1986)
www.youtube.com

Yeah, the Vietnam war was a vice of the US.

I found this ...

Strait of Hormuz - Live Ship Tracker
hormuz.data-tracking.net

Looks like less than 30 to me. As opposed to the 130 ships per day before Pres Trump's War of Choice.

What does your current alias see?

Donald Trump Once Said He Would Eliminate America's $19 Trillion in Debt. The Total Is Now Approaching $50 Trillion. (July 2026)
finance.yahoo.com

... Trump promised to eliminate $19 trillion in national debt by 2024; instead it has nearly doubled to $39 trillion and is approaching $50 trillion. ...

In April 2016, Donald Trump told The Washington Post he could eliminate the nation's then-more-than-$19 trillion national debt "over a period of eight years."

Most economists called the claim implausible, noting it could require pulling more than $2 trillion a year out of a roughly $4 trillion annual budget.

Trump's argument rested on renegotiated trade deals, particularly with China, generating the growth needed to service the balance. Economists countered that a trade war would instead be crippling to the U.S. economy. ...




__________
#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-21 08:07 PM
So you're saying they'll have one any day now?
Any day ...

Where did I say that? Isn't that what IAEA was monitoring against, and the Obama's agreement with Iran was about?

Just like Syria had an undeclared nuclear and chemical WMD program, that has been at least twice destroyed by Israel:
apnews.com - UN watchdog excavates suspected Syrian nuclear site

en.wikipedia.org - Operation Orchard / Outside the Box

en.wikipedia.org - Syria and weapons of mass destruction

|------- "We're talking about a few tons of nuclear material that could be put to bad use and Syria has decided to open up this site to the inspectors of the IAEA," Grossi said. "This material will be accounted for and will be put within the international safeguard system." -------|


#47 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2026-08-21 08:13 PM
CutiePie is a Zionist operative.

That's a good one, when you have no real arguments - just declare someone Zionist or Nazi or... Stops discussion and declares a "win" right there. Congrats!


#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-21 08:10 PM
How many ships per day pass through the Strait now? Yer up.

1. If you'd read till the end of my post before jumping to post this, you would've had the answer to that question.

2. What does this question have at all to do with my post re your inane comparison of closing Hormuz being "more potent force" than having nuclear weapon?

If you'd read the post and links I provided, you'd know it simply isn't true. If you can't come to terms with it, that's OK, it will be factually useful to other people here, who can learn from it.

Or you'll just keep changing the goal posts, like some here do repeatedly?

3. If you'd actually read the post, you would see the history of threats of closing Hormuz long precedes current situation... refuting your earlier post that "Trump has taught them" anything.

Are you reading posts and links at all, or just keep repeating the same thing because you [want to] believe it, despite the facts presented? A lot of that is going around here, and even more so recently than before.


I had been wondering how long before this current alias would show up.

What does "show up" mean? I post when I have time and can contribute, not non-stop like some paid Putin's / Russia-financed and CRINK trolls here, who tell you only what you want to hear.

Don't get all hot and bothered just because your "current alias" can't handle being refuted on repeated obvious inanity you posted. I thought you've said before you're here to learn, yet here you are, spinning into ad hominem.

And my "current alias" have had several conversations on the stupid subject of "aliases" with your "current alias" years ago - your "current alias" should try this stupidity with someone else... better yet, tell your "current alias" to discard it.
__________

Can Trump fix the national debt? Republican senators, many investors and even Elon Musk are skeptical (2025)
www.pbs.org

... President Donald Trump faces the challenge of convincing Republican senators, global investors, voters and even Elon Musk that he won't bury the federal government in debt with his multitrillion-dollar tax breaks package.

The response so far from financial markets has been skeptical as Trump seems unable to trim deficits as promised. ...

"All of this rhetoric about cutting trillions of dollars of spending has come to nothing " and the tax bill codifies that," said Michael Strain, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a right-leaning think tank. "There is a level of concern about the competence of Congress and this administration and that makes adding a whole bunch of money to the deficit riskier."

The White House has viciously lashed out at anyone who has voiced concern about the debt snowballing under Trump, even though it did exactly that in his first term after his 2017 tax cuts.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt opened her briefing Thursday by saying she wanted "to debunk some false claims" about his tax cuts. ...

Council chair Stephen Miran told reporters that when the growth being forecast by the White House is coupled with expected revenues from tariffs, the expected budget deficits will fall. The tax cuts will increase the supply of money for investment, the supply of workers and the supply of domestically produced goods -- all of which, by Miran's logic, would cause faster growth without creating new inflationary pressures.

"I do want to assure everyone that the deficit is a very significant concern for this administration," Miran said.

White House budget director Russell Vought told reporters the idea that the bill is "in any way harmful to debt and deficits is fundamentally untrue." ...

[emphasis mine]

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