Wednesday, October 30, 2024

Trump Abortion Ban Kills Another Woman

Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she'd dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy. The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was "in progress," doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica. For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter; all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria. Three days after she delivered, Barnica died of an infection.

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A Texas Woman Died After the Hospital Said It Would be a "Crime" to Intervene in Her Miscarriage

Dotard's massive body count adds another victim.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-30 09:05 AM

Republicans are scum

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 09:25 AM

This is on Texas. Take it up with them.

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-30 09:45 AM

"This is on Texas. Take it up with them."

#3 | Posted by boaz

Nope.

This is on Trump.

Own it.

#4 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 09:48 AM

Which political party approves and enacts the laws in Texas?

#5 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-10-30 09:50 AM

#3 This is a direct result of sh*tlers abortion ban. Own it. He caused it. We can also blame the lying SCOTUS ---- that ALL TESTIFIED IN THEIR HEARINGS THAT ROE WAS SETTLED LAW.

Whose to blame here:

Trump
McConnell
Comey Barret
Alito
Thomas
Keggenaugh
Gorsuch
Roberts
Hotwheels
Texas
Heritage Foundation
Susan Collins

Anyone else?

This was predicted that this was going to happen and now it is.

There is a term for animals that cannot control their own bodies...livestock.

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-30 09:51 AM

For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter

---- the GOP you ------- ghouls.

40 ------- HOURS.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-30 09:53 AM

"Texas Woman Died After the Hospital Said It Would be a "Crime" to Intervene in Her Miscarriage"

This is exactly the kind of tragedy that Michelle Obama spoke about recently in Michagan:


If you and your partner are expecting a child, you will be right by her side at the checkup, terrified if her blood pressure is too high or if there's an issue with the placenta or if the ultrasound shows that the embryo was implanted in the wrong place and the doctors aren't sure that they can intervene to keep the woman you love safe. If your wife is shivering and bleeding on the operating room table during a routine delivery gone bad, her pressure dropping as she loses more and more blood or some unforeseen infection spreads and her doctors aren't sure if they can act, you will be the one praying that it's not too late. You will be the one pleading for somebody, anybody, to do something. And then there is the tragic but very real possibility that in the worst case scenario, you just might be the one holding flowers at the funeral. You might be the one left to raise your children alone.

See, these are just some of the ways women die during childbirth. And I don't want to be a downer, y'all. But in many cases, there is no warning and things go bad very quickly. And when it happens, every second of hesitation or delay can lead to devastating outcomes. So I am asking y'all from the core of my being to take our lives seriously. Please do not put our lives in the hands of politicians, mostly men who have no clue or do not care about what we as women are going through, who don't fully grasp the broad-reaching health implications that their misguided policies will have on our health outcomes.

singjupost.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 10:02 AM

Remember back when Obama had a super majority in the Senate and chose to do the crappy Obamacare instead of Legalizing abortion? Good times.

#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-30 10:02 AM

#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles

When Obama had a super majority in the Senate, Roe v. Wade was the law of the land.

Why was there the need to "legalize" abortion when it was already legal?

#10 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 10:05 AM

Remember back when Obama had a super majority in the Senate and chose to do the crappy Obamacare instead of Legalizing abortion? Good times.

#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles

This is an odd argument. Dems (and not republicans) should be criticized for not stopping republicans from committing atrocities?

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:05 AM

Look at ---------- trying to blame Obama for the woman snuffed out by the demented orange pedo.

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-30 10:06 AM

How many women have to die before men like Bellringer take this issue and the desperation of real women seriously? From a thread the other day "Michelle Obama Pleads in MI: 'Take Our Lives Seriously':"

This reeks of desperation.
Hey, Michelle.
Your hubby tried the guilt ga,e and it fell flat. You're no5 going to fare any better.
#4 | Posted by BellRinger
drudge.com

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 10:07 AM

This is on Texas. Take it up with them.

#3 | Posted by boaz a

Boaz hates Americans.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:12 AM

"How many women have to die before men like Bellringer take this issue and the desperation of real women seriously? "

Maybe the question isn't "how many women have to die" but "does it have to be a woman you love who dies" before men like BR start to take this issue serioulsy.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 10:13 AM

Maybe the question isn't "how many women have to die" but "does it have to be a woman you love who dies" before men like BR start to take this issue serioulsy.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Jeff is wealthy enough to mostly be able to fund an abortion.

Maybe a pregnancy emergency will hit someone he loves, who knows.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:15 AM

How many women have to die before men like Bellringer take this issue and the desperation of real women seriously? From a thread the other day "Michelle Obama Pleads in MI: 'Take Our Lives Seriously':"

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Just 1. His wife.

Other people suffering and dying is never an issue for Republicans until it affects them personally.

And while I hope that never happens to his wife because no one deserves that, it is the only way he and other Republicans would ever change their minds.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-30 10:19 AM

What? You guys had the opportunity to put it into law and you chose not to ...

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-30 10:20 AM

it was already a law for decades, you dope.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 10:31 AM

No, the issue is with the states as it should be. Trump didnt ban anything.

#20 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-30 10:32 AM

You all realize this occurred over 3 years ago and before the SCOTUS reversed Roe, right?

"At the time of Barnica's miscarriage in 2021, the Supreme Court had not yet overturned the constitutional right to terminate a pregnancy. But Texas lawmakers, intent on being the first to enact a ban with teeth, had already passed a harsh civil law using a novel legal strategy that circumvented Roe v. Wade: It prohibited doctors from performing an abortion after six weeks by giving members of the public incentives to sue doctors for $10,000 judgments. The bounty also applied to anyone who "aided and abetted" an abortion."

This was over the fear of a $10K fine. No excuses for the Texas legislature because this stupid law generated this horrible environment but the comments here indicate some of you think this just happened.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 10:32 AM

"The prochoice side often wonders - often with breathtaking naivety - why those opposed to abortion want to also cut back on the use of protection that can suppress said abortions. That is because abortion reduction is not the real point, lifestyle alternation is. Get that? That women will be injured and killed by unsafe outlaw abortions and by forced pregnancies is not a great concern of the birth forcers - those wayward women should have known better than to get pregnant out of wedlock in the first place, and if raped oh well, the growing soul inside them takes priority to its reproductive vessel who needs to understand their Godly prolife duty. If a woman who would have gotten a legal termination if she could because it is safer than not having one happens to die from what seemed like a normal pregnancy oh well that's too bad, it's God's Will anyhow, and if she was right with Christ she is in a better place so what is the big problem. The wastage of pregnant women is well worth the glorious aims of the prolifers."

Gregory S. Paul

#22 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2024-10-30 10:35 AM

Why was there the need to "legalize" abortion when it was already legal?

#10 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 10:05 AM | Reply

Hans has never heard of Federalism and why it's important.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-30 10:36 AM

It's deplorable how the medical profession has made the decision to withhold medically necessary and completely legal treatment to make political points.

#24 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-10-30 10:39 AM

I have zero respect for any man who does not fully support women and their rights to reproductive care.

That put "state's rights" -------- ahead of the ability of any woman to get the care she needs.

Women are literally dying.

To quote for former First Lady, from someone who has gone through it:

"You will be the one pleading for somebody, anybody, to do something."

If you are a man with a mother, sister, daughter, niece, aunt, grandmother, do something. Support, PROTECT, the women you love.

Man the ---- up.

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:39 AM

"You guys had the opportunity to put it into law and you chose not to ..."

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles

It was law. A little thing known as stare decisis.

That every single Justice appointed by Bush (Sr & Jr) and Trump promised to honor

They lied.

#26 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 10:39 AM

sitzkrieg has never heard of stare decisis and why it's important.

#27 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 10:41 AM

No, the issue is with the states as it should be. Trump didnt ban anything.

#20 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Human rights are not a states issue. They are a constitutional issues.

When asked about it Trumpy replied ...

"You wouldn't be asking that question, even talking about the issue, because for 54 years they were trying to get Roe v Wade terminated, and I did it, and I'm proud to have done it," he said. "Nobody else was going to get that done but me, and we did it, and we did something that was a miracle."

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-30 10:41 AM

It's deplorable how the medical profession has made the decision to withhold medically necessary and completely legal treatment to make political points.

#24 | Posted by visitor_

No, what is deplorable is ignorant --------- like you have any political power in this country.

reproductiverights.org

Read their ------- stories you --------.

LEARN that the Texas courts REFUSED to define when an abortion is allowed, understand that the Texas AG is threatening doctors with massive criminal charges.

You are a disease.

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:41 AM

Amanda Zurawski, from Austin, lead plaintiff in the case, was denied abortion care after she experienced preterm pre-labor rupture of membranes (PPROM) at 18 weeks of pregnancy. She was seen at a Catholic hospital in Austin, where she was denied an abortion because her doctors could still detect fetal cardiac activity. Three days later, she showed signs of infection and was diagnosed with sepsis, a life-threatening condition. Although doctors then performed an emergency induction abortion, she spent the next three days in the ICU fighting for her life. She ultimately survived, but the infection caused one of her fallopian tubes to become permanently closed, compromising her future ability to have children. She has been forced to turn to in vitro fertilization (IVF) in attempt to start a family.

Lauren Miller, from Dallas, was hospitalized at eight weeks of pregnancy for severe nausea, vomiting, and dehydration, and was diagnosed with hyperemesis gravidarum"a condition posing significant risks to the patient and her pregnancy. She also learned at that time she was pregnant with twins. But at 12 weeks, Lauren learned that one of her twins had trisomy 18"a condition that causes multiple structural abnormalities and makes the fetus unlikely to survive to birth. Due to Texas's abortion bans, doctors denied Lauren a fetal reduction abortion procedure, despite it being necessary to give Lauren and the second fetus the best chance of survival. After being again hospitalized for hyperemesis gravidarum at 15 weeks, she traveled out of state to Colorado to obtain the fetal reduction abortion. Lauren has recovered and is expecting to give birth this month.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:45 AM

"It's deplorable how the medical profession has made the decision to withhold medically necessary and completely legal treatment to make political points."

#24 | Posted by visitor_

That's by design...

...by the so-called "right-to-life" people who want medical professionals afraid to provide medically necessary treatment for fear of losing their medical license, or even go to prison.

Congratulations.

It is working.

Oh, and Happy Anniversary ! ! !

#31 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 10:45 AM

Lauren Hall, from outside of Dallas, discovered at 18 weeks pregnant that her fetus had anencephaly, a condition which prevents fetuses from developing a skull. Her fetus had no chance of survival and continuing the pregnancy posed severe risks to her, including hemorrhage and pre-term birth. Although Lauren wanted an abortion, her obstetrician refused to provide one or to help in any way. In addition, her medical specialist was afraid to give her a referral for an abortion out of state and refused to even send her medical records. Lauren was forced to travel out of state to obtain an abortion at a clinic outside of Seattle. She is now pregnant again, due in September but scared to be pregnant under the state's laws.

Republicans, the party who firmly believe that fetuses without skulls are more valuable than living breathing women

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:45 AM

Democrats should have known that the SC justices who spoke of Dobbs being settled law during their confirmation hearings were lying liars who were willing to lie under oath.

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 10:46 AM

Anna Zargarian, from Austin, Texas, was 19 weeks pregnant when her water broke and she began cramping. In the emergency room, doctors told Anna there was no chance that her baby would survive and that based on her condition, she was at risk of infection, hemorrhage, and sepsis. Anna was told that she needed an abortion but could not get one in Texas and would need to leave the state. Anna decided to fly to Colorado for an abortion, despite her fear of going into labor on the way. While she still wants to have children, she is afraid to go through pregnancy again in Texas.

Republicans, the party who firmly believe that a fetus, stuck in a womb without fluid, is more valuable than a living breathing woman.

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:47 AM

"I have zero respect for any man who does not fully support women and their rights to reproductive care." -

#25 | Posted by truthhurts | Flag: Bravo, truthhurts, BRAVO

#35 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 10:48 AM

Kylie Beaton lives with her husband and their daughter in Fort Worth, Texas. Kylie was thrilled to learn she was pregnant with their second child, but at her 20-week scan, she discovered the baby had a condition, alobar holoprosencephaly, in which the brain does not develop normally and the head grows abnormally quickly. After learning the baby would barely survive past birth, Kylie considered traveling to New Mexico for abortion care. But the baby's head was already measuring at close to 24 weeks"a size past the gestational cutoff for the New Mexico clinic"and Kylie had no choice but to continue the pregnancy. At Kylie's 28-week ultrasound appointment, she begged to be induced before the baby's head grew too large to deliver vaginally, but her doctors refused due to Texas's abortion bans. After rushing to the hospital with abdominal pain at 35 weeks, Kylie was finally sent for an emergency Cesarean, and her baby died four days after he was born. Kylie said that having to go through the birth and death of her son made losing him much harder, and she fears for her health, safety, and ability to get pregnant again in the future.

So very compassionate to force a creature to suffer 4 days of excruciating pain before it's inevitable dying.

Republicans, the party that firmly believes that fetuses with heads literally shaped like Stewie Griffin are more valuable than living breathing women.

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:50 AM

Jessica Bernardo, from Frisco, Texas, was thrilled to discover she was pregnant after two years of fertility challenges. Upon learning at 14 weeks that their baby likely had Down syndrome, she and her husband began researching how to support children with disabilities. But Jessica soon learned that her daughter had several other severe medical conditions, including fetal anasarca, and would not survive to birth"and continuing the pregnancy put her at risk of developing a potentially fatal condition. Her doctor contacted the hospital ethics committee for an exclusion, but the request was denied. Using what felt to her like coded language, Jessica told her doctor that they had a residence in Colorado and asked if they should go there; her doctor told her yes. After finding that the clinics in Colorado were all booked, Jessica was eventually able to get an appointment for an abortion in Seattle, where she was the third patient from Texas that week alone. Jessica describes this experience as the worst trauma of her life. She is terrified to get pregnant naturally again in Texas and has decided to start IVF.

Republicans, the party that really, really wants to traumatize women.

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:51 AM

Samantha Casiano, who lives in East Texas with her partner and their children, learned at her 20-week scan that her baby had anencephaly and would not survive. She asked her doctor what her options were"but since she lacked the time, finances, and resources to travel out of state, she was told she had none but to continue with the pregnancy. As the months wore on, Samantha found it excruciating to have people constantly congratulating her, and she worried relentlessly about how she would afford a funeral for her daughter. Though the baby was born breech (positioned backwards), which usually necessitates a Cesarean section, Samantha was not given the option to have the procedure; she noted the hypocrisy of treating her daughter like a healthy baby only while she was in utero. Her daughter died four hours after birth, and, after a simple funeral, Samantha resolved to tell her story publicly in the hope that others would not have to go through the same experience. She wished she had been able to put her daughter to rest earlier, since she was going to have to rest either way.

Republicans, the party that insists on treating a fetus like a healthy baby (despite all evidence) ONLY while in utero. It's almost like they value an unviable fetus more than a living, breathing woman.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:54 AM

twoothy is getting after it.........

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 10:54 AM

Taylor Edwards, from Austin, learned at 17 weeks pregnant that her daughter had a fatal condition called encephalocele and would die at or before birth. Continuing the pregnancy posed risks to Taylor as well. After a second opinion confirmed the diagnosis, Taylor decided to travel to New Mexico to have an abortion, despite the daunting logistics and expense. Her doctors in Texas told her that if her condition had occurred a year and a half earlier, they could have offered her the care she needed, but not anymore. Three hours before her flight was scheduled to leave, the New Mexico clinic canceled Taylor's appointment due to a shortage of medication needed for the procedure. Taylor searched for other appointments in New Mexico, but none were available. She soon started vomiting daily, struggling both physically and emotionally, and she was terrified that she would be too far along for an abortion by the time she found an appointment. Taylor was eventually able to obtain an abortion at a Colorado clinic, though she returned to Texas feeling she was back at square one with IVF. Taylor and her husband still want a child, but she fears being pregnant again in Texas.

Republicans, the party that loves women being terrified of getting pregnant.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:55 AM

Kiersten Hogan, of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, was surprised but excited to learn she was pregnant. When her boyfriend became violent and insisted she get an abortion, Kiersten left him and moved to Texas. There, several instances of cramping and bleeding sent her to the emergency room, but doctors repeatedly assured her that everything looked normal. Then, just weeks after Texas abortion ban S.B. 8 took effect, her water broke. Hospital staff told Kiersten that if her cervical insufficiency had been diagnosed earlier, she could have had a procedure to prevent this; now, it was too late. She was forced to stay in the hospital against her will, where religious counselors repeatedly came to visit her and staff told her that if she tried to leave, it could be used as evidence that she was trying to kill her baby. Four days later, Kiersten delivered her son stillborn. She says being detained against her will made her feel like a criminal during the biggest medical emergency of her life.

Republicans, the party that kidnaps women and subjects them to religious indoctrination and threats.

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:57 AM

Lauren Van Vleet and her husband were delighted to learn she was pregnant. But a severe snow and ice storm delayed Lauren's 20-week scan by two weeks, and at the rescheduled scan, the couple learned that their son had anencephaly and would not survive. Lauren's doctor told her that due to Texas' laws, there was nothing she could do but wait for the baby's heart to stop beating or carry the pregnancy to term. She would have to go out of state if she wanted an abortion. Lauren was 23 weeks pregnant when she began searching for appointments and was concerned she'd be unable to obtain an abortion at this stage. She was terrified of legal liability and avoided texting anyone about her plans. Luckily, family members in Maryland were able to provide logistical and financial support, and Lauren received an abortion there at 24 weeks. She has spent the last several months trying to heal; while she still wants children, she is afraid to be pregnant again in Texas.

Republicans, the party that forces women to spend more time, effort, money and subjects themselves to more danger to obtain necessary medical care.

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 10:58 AM

Elizabeth Weller, of Kingwood, Texas, had a relatively smooth pregnancy at first. She opted not to do any genetic testing: Elizabeth herself was born with a physical disability, brachial plexus Erb's palsy, and she knew she would want to continue the pregnancy regardless. At 19 weeks, however, Elizabeth's water broke. Though her baby would not be able to survive and continuing the pregnancy meant risking her fertility and her life, hospital staff refused to perform an abortion because Elizabeth had already been prescribed antibiotics, saying she had put herself in a "legal gray area" by attempting to fend off infection. Her options were to stop taking the antibiotics and stay in the hospital, or go home, monitor herself for signs of worsening infection, and wait for her baby to die inside her. After she was diagnosed with chorioamnionitus, an infection of the placenta and the amniotic fluid, a medical board finally approved an abortion for her. Elizabeth said her experience made her feel like she was being punished by the state of Texas for failing to carry a wanted pregnancy to term. While she and her husband still want children, they are traumatized by the experience and afraid of the serious risks associated with being pregnant in Texas.

Republicans-the party that punishes women for failing (because they had to save their own lives) to carry a wanted pregnancy to term.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:00 AM

Kristen Anaya, of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, was 16 weeks pregnant when her water broke. At the hospital, she lost more amniotic fluid, spiked a fever, and began having rigors, or uncontrollable shaking"symptoms that she would later learn were early signs of sepsis. Kristen's doctor told her that her pregnancy could not continue without amniotic fluid, but since her daughter still had a heartbeat, the hospital would not provide abortion care unless her life was in danger. Over the next 22 hours, Kristen's fever climbed higher, and she shook and vomited constantly. After presenting Kristen's case to hospital administration several times, her doctor was finally able to obtain permission for her to receive an abortion. Immediately after the procedure, Kristen's fever subsided and the vomiting stopped. She recovered from the septic infection after five days in the hospital. Kristen and her husband still want to have children but fear for her safety if she gets pregnant again. They've started IVF treatments and believe they've found a surrogate who can carry for them"but the surrogate also lives in Texas. Kristen decided to join this case after realizing that so many other Texans shared her experience.

Republicans, the party that forces women to suffer life threatening situations, to protect an unviable fetus.

#44 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:01 AM

Kaitlyn Kash, of Austin, pregnant with her second child, discovered after her 13-week ultrasound that her baby had severe skeletal dysplasia"a condition affecting bone and cartilage growth"and the baby was unlikely to survive until birth or would suffocate soon after being born. When Kaitlyn asked what option would ensure the least amount of suffering for her baby, the MFM recommended she seek "a second opinion, but outside Texas." Kaitlyn was able to obtain abortion care after traveling to a clinic in Kansas, where protestors harassed her and other patients. After becoming pregnant a few months later, Kaitlyn miscarried at seven weeks. Her doctor prescribed medication to help her pass the pregnancy, but because the drug is also used for medication abortion, she struggled to find a pharmacy to fill the prescription. After another miscarriage without medical intervention, Kaitlyn became pregnant and gave birth to a daughter in 2023. After the birth, she needed a dilation and curettage (D&C) procedure to remove remaining placental tissue, but the hospital had difficulty locating the equipment and staff for the procedure. While waiting, Kaitlyn's condition deteriorated, and after vomiting, losing blood, and losing consciousness, she was transferred to the ICU, where she was later told she was lucky she hadn't lost her uterus. Kaitlyn still struggles to understand why the hospital had so much trouble providing her with routine postpartum care.

Republicans, the party that actively keeps necessary medicine from women, has stripped it's medical system of necessary medical equipment and nearly kills women, to save the residue of miscarriages and placental tissue.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:04 AM

D. Aylen, of San Antonio, discovered at about 17 weeks into her pregnancy that her baby had a possible neural tube defect, such as anencephaly or spina bifida. At her 19-week anatomy scan, an MFM specialist confirmed the diagnosis of anencephaly. Hoping to prevent more suffering for herself and her baby, D. called out-of-state abortion clinics"most of which had four- to eight-week wait times"and eventually was able to obtain abortion care in San Diego. Losing her child and being forced to travel to California to obtain health care was one of the worst moments of D.'s life. She is glad to be pregnant again but continues to be plagued by fear and receives sonograms every three weeks. D. decided to join this case to honor her baby's memory and make sure that no other family has to go through what she endured.

Republicans, the party that thinks nothing of putting residents of ----------- states at risk, as women have to flee the -------- state to receive basic medical care.

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:05 AM

Kimberly Manzano, of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, discovered she was pregnant again after a miscarriage a few months earlier. But an ultrasound at 10 weeks revealed that some of the baby's organs were growing outside the body. The MFM specialist was concerned that Kimberly's health was at risk and suggested she obtain an abortion out of state. After an MRI scan revealed that the baby's spine, genitalia, kidney, bladder and abdominal wall had not developed properly, the MFM specialist told Kimberly and her husband, "If it was my baby, I would want him to be with God now." Devout Christians, Kimberly and her husband had always considered themselves to be anti-abortion, but it became clear to them that abortion was their only option. Their baby had little or no chance of survival, and if Kimberly continued the pregnancy, she'd be at risk of infection since the baby had no bladder and urine was circulating in her uterus. When Kimberly was 18 weeks pregnant, she was traveled out of state to obtain an abortion in New Mexico. Kimberly and her husband consider losing their baby to be the most challenging thing they have been through. Disgusted that people are made to feel like criminals for making such sacrifices, Kimberly believes it is not her place to judge someone else's decision about their pregnancy. She decided to join this case in hopes that her baby's story can make a change and so that no woman has to flee Texas to obtain necessary medical treatment.

Republicans, the party that forces even devout Christians to be made to feel like criminals for obtaining necessary medical care.

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:07 AM

#32/#34/#36-#38/#40-#45 | truthhurts | Flag: VERY, VERY IMPORTANT READING

#48 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 11:08 AM

Dr. Danielle Mathisen, formerly of the Fort Worth area, is currently an obstetrician-gynecologist (OB-GYN) resident physician in Hawai'i. While still living in Texas, Dr. Mathisen learned she was pregnant. But at her 18-week anatomy scan, her doctor diagnosed her baby with several lethal fetal conditions"including a hole in the spine, only one kidney, and no formed brain structures"and said the baby was unlikely to survive or would slowly suffocate soon after birth. Dr. Mathisen's doctor"who is also her aunt"told her she couldn't help her and advised her to go on a "vacation" to Colorado. Dr. Mathisen was shocked that her own family member was unable to help her or even openly discuss abortion due to Texas's bans. Dr. Mathisen and her husband decided abortion was the right decision to prevent further suffering for their baby and themselves. With clinics in Colorado overflowing with Texans, Dr. Mathisen was able to obtain an abortion after traveling to New Mexico. Dr. Mathisen is pregnant again and resides in Hawai'i, where abortion is legal, but she does not feel safe when she visits her family in Texas. She decided to join this case to be a voice for people who can't share their abortion stories and to prevent other Texans from going through the same trauma.

Republicans-the party that values a fetus without a brain (perhaps they think the fetus will grow up to be a republican) over a living breathing woman.

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:09 AM

#32/#34/#36-#38/#40-#47 | Posted by truthhurts | Flag: VERY, VERY IMPORTANT READING

#50 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 11:09 AM

For those paying attention, stories like the above are why "abortion" care is necessary at all times of a pregnancy - beginning to end. Ectopic pregnancies can kill mothers early and non-viable fetuses can kill mothers up to and including after being birthed, where the fetus dies quickly ex-vitro. It isn't so that mothers can make 11th hour selective decisions to abort otherwise healthy fetuses, it's to indemnify doctors and healthcare providers from being charged with crimes by overzealous prosecutors, now looking to charge miscarriages and complicated pregnancies that threaten the mother's own health and well being - necessitating the need for abortive care - which occur after the state's legal abortion time limit has been exceeded as violations of the law.

#51 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-30 11:09 AM

Cristina Nuez, of El Paso, has several medical conditions"including diabetes, cardiovascular issues, and end-stage renal disease"and was advised by doctors to never become pregnant. When she discovered she was six weeks pregnant, Cristina consulted her OB-GYN, who reiterated that continuing the pregnancy would put her life, and her baby's life, at risk. Cristina asked for an abortion, and although her doctor promised to present her case to the hospital administration, she never heard back. She reached out to a New Mexico clinic and was told that because of her medical condition, she was not eligible for medication abortion, and she was too early in pregnancy to get a surgical abortion. Over the next few weeks, Cristina's health rapidly deteriorated, requiring an increase in her dialysis treatments. After her arm turned black due to blood clotting issues, and fearful she he was at risk of pulmonary embolism and losing her arm (Cristina is a trained nurse), she went to the emergency room. The hospital staff refused to provide her an abortion. After 11 days of waiting"and only after contacting an organization for legal support and translation services, since Cristina does not speak English"she finally received an abortion. She will never understand why she had to become so sick before receiving the medical care that saved her life.

Republicans-the party that refuses severely sick women from getting necessary healthcare.

#52 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:10 AM

"For those paying attention, stories like the above are why "abortion" care is necessary at all times of a pregnancy - beginning to end." -

#51 | Posted by TonyRoma | Flag: Tony is 100% correct! see also: The Absolute Truth About Abortion

#53 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 11:14 AM

These stories are the REALITY of abortion bans.

These women are not "-----" using abortion as birth control (though I, personally, have no problem with that).

These are women who face common problems with pregnancies.

These types of situations are happening every day across America.

And, again, the state's rights issue is complete and utter --------.

Even accepting all the -------- about stripping women of their rights, these laws force women in -------- states to travel to non--------- states for necessary care, thus preventing or interfering with the citizens of the non--------- states from getting the care they need.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 11:15 AM

#54: Thank you, truthhurts

Thank you.

#55 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 11:16 AM

Congrats GOP, murderers (again)...

#56 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-10-30 11:19 AM

Very sad! Too bad she didn't have needed help from others and the system because there is always billions in money and help for Democrat sponsored illegals. Outrageously not for citizens.

#57 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-30 11:30 AM

-These stories are the REALITY of abortion bans.

True.

At least the thread caught up to the title. The attached article was from over 3 years ago. "Another woman in Texas died......over 3 years ago."

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 11:39 AM

But it was --------, who can't read. He's not alone unfortunately.......

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 11:40 AM

#57 | Posted by robson at 2024-10-30 11:30 AM | Reply | Flag: A keen understanding, or something else?

#60 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 11:44 AM

---------, it was posted on Political Wire this morning. BTW, weren't you the --------- who said Roe wouldn't get overturned?

politicalwire.com

#61 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-30 11:55 AM

---------, it was posted on Political Wire this morning. BTW, weren't you the --------- who said Roe wouldn't get overturned?

politicalwire.com

#62 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-30 11:56 AM

You guys had the opportunity to put it into law and you chose not to ...

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-30 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

They sure did and they did nothing. Now it's impossible for them to admit it never was law and being coddled by the SCOTUS was a bad idea. Even RBG tried to tell the democrats it was a terrible idea to handle it that way.

#63 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 11:59 AM

Exhibit A:

it was already a law for decades, you dope.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag

#64 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:00 PM

Anyone who doesn't know the distinct difference between the legislative and judicial branches shouldn't be voting.

#65 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:01 PM

Anyone who doesn't know the distinct difference between the legislative and judicial branches shouldn't be voting.

#65 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Anyone that values a fetus without a brain (perhaps they think the fetus will grow up to be a republican) over a living breathing woman shouldnt vote

#66 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 12:09 PM

"it was posted on Political Wire this morning"

which removes you from the burden of actually reading it?

you must think so.....and that's one of the many reasons why you're a ------------- laughed at in perpetuity.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 12:12 PM

Wow...that was fast. someone's feelings hurt over poor reinshit?

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 12:15 PM

Anyone who doesn't know the distinct difference between the legislative and judicial branches shouldn't be voting.

#65 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS AT 2024-10-30 12:01 PM | FLAG:

Anyone that thinks 49 years of precedence doesnt matter shouldnt be voting. go take your horse paste to celebrate killing another woman.

#69 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:19 PM

Anyone that thinks 49 years of precedence doesnt matter shouldnt be voting. go take your horse paste to celebrate killing another woman.

#69 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:19 PM | Reply | Flag

"precedence" means nothing in a nation of law and order guided by three separate and distinct branches of government.

And I'm pretty sure I know why the left ran with "precedence" and didn't introduce it to the legislative branch.

#70 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:25 PM

because the stupid democrats didnt believe 6 supreme court justices would lie about stare decisis.

#71 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:27 PM

#70 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Isn't it time for you to change your underwear?

I'm just trying to be helpful.

You're welcome.

#72 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 12:29 PM

because the stupid democrats didnt believe 6 supreme court justices would lie about stare decisis.

#71 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Them "stupid democrats " did not and could not believe that republicans could be such heartless ghouls.

It does appear most have gotten their "believers" fixed now.

#73 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-30 12:30 PM

I thought it was pretty obvious once trump got his third scotus "justice" that roe was toast. why couldnt they figure that out?

#74 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:32 PM

Anyone that values a fetus without a brain (perhaps they think the fetus will grow up to be a republican) over a living breathing woman shouldnt vote

#66 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 12:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

The problem is, you clowns read these shit articles designed to get you all lathered up and its always the exception.. Not the 99.999%.. It's always some crazy, hyped up exception.

Personally I feel like abortion, up to a certain point in pregnancy. should be legal. I also think it should be the mother's right to choose in cases of rape. And no, a woman should be able to go get an abortion on the grounds of rape without identifying the rapist.

#75 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:34 PM

-=Them "stupid democrats " did not and could not believe that republicans could be such heartless ghouls.

You're giving that pass to them?

You've all taken turns spanking me for being so naive....and I'm just a nobody.

But elected democrats at the FEDERAL level?? You're gonna give them a pass?

"did not and could not believe....."?

#76 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 12:35 PM

"Personally I feel like abortion, up to a certain point in pregnancy. should be legal."

#75 | Posted by lfthndthrds | Flag: Helpful?

#77 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 12:37 PM

Isn't it time for you to change your underwear?

I'm just trying to be helpful.

You're welcome.

#72 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 12:29 PM | Reply

Is this your way of telling me you're tired of me tea bagging you?

#78 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:38 PM

Imagine if no one let you have bodily autonomy lfthand. and you had to get your horse paste in a back alley. how about "mind your own business"?

#79 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:39 PM

How is this a "shit article"? A woman is dead because you and the people you vote for want to control things that arent your concern.

#80 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:40 PM

Imagine if no one let you have bodily autonomy lfthand. and you had to get your horse paste in a back alley. how about "mind your own business"?

#79 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you believe that someone who kills a pregnant woman should be charged with two murders?

#81 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:42 PM

Because the only thing that separates the two killings in one is wanted and the other isn't

#82 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:43 PM

"Is this your way of telling me you're tired of me tea bagging you? -

#78 | Posted by Posted by lfthndthrds

So-called tea bagging is the forte of the right and "religious".

At least that's what your mom says.

You're welcome.

#83 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 12:43 PM

Do you believe that someone who kills a pregnant woman should be charged with two murders?

Nope.

Personhood begins at birth.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 12:45 PM

Do you believe that someone who kills a pregnant woman should be charged with two murders?

#81 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS AT 2024-10-30 12:42 PM | FLAG:

Do pregnant women count as two people on a census? figure it out.

#85 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:45 PM

Do you believe that someone who kills a pregnant woman should be charged with two murders?

#81 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS AT 2024-10-30 12:42 PM | FLAG:

A woman was arrested for murder for a miscarriage

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 12:46 PM

A woman was arrested for murder for a miscarriage

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 12:46 PM | Reply | Flag

Are you referencing the instance where the woman (late in term) took a handful of pills to kill her baby?

#87 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:49 PM

Lfthand needs a hobby that doesnt involve the uterus of strangers.

maybe golf?

#88 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:50 PM

Clownshack and Alex

So if I shot a pregnant woman (8 months preg.) in the stomach and baby died, she lived. what would like to se me charged with? just trying to clarify once more.

#89 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:52 PM

"Are you referencing the instance where the woman (late in term) took a handful of pills to kill her baby?" -

#87 | Posted by lfthndthrds

A woman's desperation: It is what women haters, like lfthndthrds and BILLJOHNSON, long for.

They dream about it and wake up in the morning in a tented position.

That's how much they hate women and love to see them in desperation.

#90 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 12:52 PM

if you shot a woman in the stomach and she lived you would be charged with attempted murder. once the judge discovered she was pregnant hed throw the book at you.

you only want a double murder law to undercut legal abortion. if you read this article and dont care about women dying, no one believes you care about a baby or a fetus either.

this is about control. mind your own business.

#91 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:55 PM

This happened BEFORE the decision that rightly reversed Roe.

#92 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-10-30 12:55 PM

its okay then. robson doesn't care about women.

#93 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:56 PM

if I shot a pregnant woman (8 months preg.) in the stomach and baby died, she lived. what would like to se me charged with?

The shooter would be charged with attempted murder of the pregnant woman and the death of the fetus.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 12:57 PM

visitor, not robson. apologies.

#95 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:57 PM

This happened BEFORE the decision that rightly reversed Roe.
#92 | Posted by visitor_

"At the time of Barnica's miscarriage in 2021, the Supreme Court had not yet overturned the constitutional right to terminate a pregnancy. But Texas lawmakers, intent on being the first to enact a ban with teeth, had already passed a harsh civil law using a novel legal strategy that circumvented Roe v. Wade: It prohibited doctors from performing an abortion after six weeks by giving members of the public incentives to sue doctors for $10,000 judgments. The bounty also applied to anyone who "aided and abetted" an abortion."

This was over the fear of a $10K fine. No excuses for the Texas legislature because this stupid law generated this horrible environment but the comments here indicate some of you think this just happened.

#21 | Posted by eberly

Texas read the writing on the wall.

#96 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-30 12:58 PM

you only want a double murder law to undercut legal abortion. if you read this article and dont care about women dying, no one believes you care about a baby or a fetus either.

this is about control. mind your own business.

#91 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm not stating what I "want". I'm clarifying my suspicions that if the left were to have things their way all the way around, we'd be fucking living in "The Purge" IRL.

#97 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 12:59 PM

the left and right both had their way. it was a compromise called roe v wade. worked just fine.

now its chaos and women are dying because the far right is a bunch of busybody control freaks that want to force strangers to follow bronze age myths they dont even follow themselves. its absurd.

#98 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:04 PM

Funny listening leftist men on this site act like they care about women.

Your argument rings hollow as long as men are putting on dresses and taking women's sports spots all because they cant compete with their born gender.

#99 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-30 01:07 PM

This happened BEFORE the decision that rightly reversed Roe.

#92 | Posted by visitor_ a

SB-8 you fucking ignorant moron

#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:10 PM

just move to another state, boaz. do you see how callous that sounds?

im glad you care about womens sports, though. your ticket sales are appreciated. lol. you dont care about womens sports, its an excuse to punch down on trans people.

#101 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:10 PM

Funny listening leftist men on this site act like they care about women.

Your argument rings hollow as long as men are putting on dresses and taking women's sports spots all because they cant compete with their born gender.

#99 | Posted by boaz

40 trans athletes, both trans male and trans female, of the 522,000 college athletes you misogynistic bore

#102 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:11 PM

If men cared about womens sports theyd fill arenas. they dont.

#103 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:11 PM

Aw, she's just another victim that Trumpers would have on their conscience if they had one.

Like Musk said about the coming Trump Economic Disaster for the middle class, this is only just the start of the American Oligarchs War on Americans.

They are perfectly willing to kill women in their Culture War to get the Cult behind them.

#104 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 01:12 PM

I'm clarifying my suspicions that if the left were to have things their way all the way around, we'd be fucking living in "The Purge" IRL.

#97 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Your suspicions.

Cause you're a moron.

#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:13 PM

now its chaos and women are dying because the far right is a bunch of busybody control freaks that want to force strangers to follow bronze age myths they dont even follow themselves. its absurd.

#98 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:04 PM | Reply | Flag

Bullshitt. Pure bullshit. At some point a baby can survive outside of the womb without going full term. People with a conscience have every right to speak about issues that go on within the society in which they live. And I'm not apologizing for that. But because I simply can't agree unfettered access to abortion 24/7, 365 in any/all situations, you choose to label me as some bronze age, religious zealot - and nothing is farther from the truth.

Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me.. I'm glad SCOTUS put a stop to it. Now states can figure it out with their local representatives in their state legislatures. And you have a right to vote for those who favor your views on the subject.

#106 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 01:14 PM

Boaz has NEVER expressed concern about trans men (people he thinks of as women), entering men's spaced.

Cause he hates trans people.

Because he is an asshole

Probably hates himself over being attracted to Ru-Paul

#107 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:15 PM

" But because I simply can't agree unfettered access to abortion 24/7, 365 in any/all situations, "

we didnt have that. go read roe v wade and get back to me. you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

#108 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:16 PM

"Your argument rings hollow as long as men are putting on dresses ... "

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

#109 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-30 01:17 PM

now its chaos and women are dying because the far right is a bunch of busybody control freaks that want to force strangers to follow bronze age myths they dont even follow themselves. its absurd.

#98 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:04 PM | Reply | Flag

Bullshitt. Pure bullshit. At some point a baby can survive outside of the womb without going full term. People with a conscience have every right to speak about issues that go on within the society in which they live. And I'm not apologizing for that. But because I simply can't agree unfettered access to abortion 24/7, 365 in any/all situations, you choose to label me as some bronze age, religious zealot - and nothing is farther from the truth.

Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me.. I'm glad SCOTUS put a stop to it. Now states can figure it out with their local representatives in their state legislatures. And you have a right to vote for those who favor your views on the subject.

#106 | Posted by lfthndthrds a

I posted figures the other day about abortions in MN that are likely representative of abortion nationwide.

Exactly 1 abortion occurred after 23 weeks.

1 abortion

of thousands

1 abortion after viability.

#110 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:17 PM

" you choose to label me as some bronze age, religious zealot"

i did no such thing, i rightly blamed the far right theocrats for killing roe v wade. that you thought i meant you is telling. then again, YOU VOTED FOR THEM so eat my shit.

#111 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:18 PM

"you choose to label me as some bronze age, religious zealot - and nothing is farther from the truth."

Justify preventing a woman from doing with her body what she chooses without referencing religion.

I'd like to see

#112 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:18 PM

"Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me.."

#106 | Posted by lfthndthrds

So what?

#113 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 01:18 PM

Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me.. I'm glad SCOTUS put a stop to it. Now states can figure it out with their local representatives in their state legislatures. And you have a right to vote for those who favor your views on the subject.

#106 | Posted by lfthndthrds a

Republicans, the party that insists on treating a fetus like a healthy baby (despite all evidence) ONLY while in utero. It's almost like they value an unviable fetus more than a living, breathing woman.

#114 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:20 PM

Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me..

You are "disgusted" by the voices in your head?

Please

Seek head before you harm yourself or others.

Abortion is not used as a primary method of birth control in America. In fact, half of women who have abortions report using contraception in the month they became pregnant. This is because no method of contraception is 100% effective.

#115 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-30 01:20 PM

Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me..

You are "disgusted" by the voices in your head?

Please

Seek head before you harm yourself or others.

Abortion is not used as a primary method of birth control in America. In fact, half of women who have abortions report using contraception in the month they became pregnant. This is because no method of contraception is 100% effective.

#116 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-30 01:20 PM

"Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me.."

#106 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The government telling a woman what she can do with her body is disgusting to me.

#117 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:20 PM

"Seek head before you harm yourself or others."

This is my recommendation to anyone for pretty much everything

#118 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:21 PM

" Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me.."

you're disgusting to me and i dont want a law banning you.

#119 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:22 PM

Re 116/115

Seek help. Though seeking some "head" might calm your arse down a bit.

#120 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-30 01:22 PM

" Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control and it's disgusting to me.."

you're disgusting to me and i dont want a law banning you.

#119 | Posted by Alexandrite

Can we put it on the ballot?

#121 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 01:22 PM

lfthand fills a role. someone has to eat the ivermectin.

#122 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:23 PM

You built that, MAGAts.

#123 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-30 01:23 PM

besides seabiscuit i mean.

#124 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:24 PM

- Abortion was being used in this culture as birth control

More lies, same liar.

93 percent of abortions have been very responsibly had by women at 13 weeks at the most.... the rest being health issues.

And given the 15 week National Ban proposed by Republican, that means this whole debate is just another FARCE created by Republicans to divide and conquer the voters.

To keep their attention elsewhere while their pockets are being picked by real issues such as the Economy, where Musk now admits the middle class are in for a very bad beating.

#125 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 01:24 PM

Whose to blame here:

Trump
McConnell
Comey Barret
Alito
Thomas
Keggenaugh
Gorsuch
Roberts
Hotwheels
Texas
Heritage Foundation
Susan Collins

Anyone else?

#6 | Posted by Nixon

Anyone else?...

Yes!! Trump voters!

#126 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-10-30 01:25 PM

The Democrats didn't take the abortion issue to the legislative branch because they were afraid they'd lose it all together.

They settled on a back door, handshake deal instead.

Prove me wrong.

#127 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 01:31 PM

Funny listening leftist men on this site act like they care about women.

Are you trolling or just stupid?

You vote for politicians who have stripped women of their rights.

You hate women.


Your argument rings hollow as long as men are putting on dresses and taking women's sports spots all because they cant compete with their born gender.
#99 | POSTED BY BOAZ

The only time misogynists, like Boaz, pretend to care about women is when they need to attack transgenders.

Bravo Boaz.

You're a fkkking idiot.

#128 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 01:31 PM

re in Florida Desantis is illegally using millions of taxpayer dollars to run ad full of outright lies to try to defeat Amendment 4tprevent a majority of Floridians from restoring women's reproductive healthcare decisions to something that should be made by the woman inolved and her doctor and not the government. It is outrageous how dishonest the ads they are running really are but Ron Desantis lies about all sorts of things just like Donald Trump or his Boss Vladimir Putin.

#129 | Posted by danni at 2024-10-30 01:33 PM

"They settled on a back door, handshake deal instead."

#127 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, was a "back door, handshake deal"?

Can anyone explain that?

#130 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 01:34 PM

a 49 year old scotus ruling is the opposite of a "back door" its as front door as it gets. 6 "justices" lying about stare decisis to get in and kill roe is as back door as you can get. underhanded, unpopular weasel crap thats gonna cost you guys an election.

#131 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:35 PM

Reading LFT's mind would require Expert Brain Braille skilz.

#132 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 01:36 PM

a 49 year old scotus ruling is the opposite of a "back door" its as front door as it gets. 6 "justices" lying about stare decisis to get in and kill roe is as back door as you can get. underhanded, unpopular weasel crap thats gonna cost you guys an election." -

#131 | Posted by Alexandrite

One of the best posts I've read recently.

Thank you, Alexandrite.

#133 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 01:39 PM

Way past time to turn the tables.

Oh, and Boaz is a fucking retarded little bitch.

#134 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-30 01:45 PM

boaz. do you see how callous that sounds?

Doubtful.

you dont care about womens sports, its an excuse to punch down on trans people.
#101 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Without using Google, none of our resident transphobes could name a single athlete playing women's sports or what the team names are.

They just like attacking transgender people.

#135 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 01:47 PM

Reading LFT's mind would require Expert Brain Braille skilz.

#132 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you had half a brain you could read what RBG said about the subject. You and the lackeys following you around here have too much hype invested in this to admit to what really happened with Roe v Wade. The people pushing this nonsense took a short cut and it caved in on them. It's simple as that.

#136 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-30 01:50 PM

The Democrats didn't take the abortion issue to the legislative branch because it was a wedge issue used by both parties during campaign season to raise money and motivate voters.
#127 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

#137 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 01:51 PM

a SCOTUS ruling is a "short cut?"

You're a blithering idiot.

#138 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:52 PM

"...a short cut ..." -

#136 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Just how is a SCOTUS decision in 1973 a "short cut"?

Can anyone explain that?

#139 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 01:52 PM

Without using Google, none of our resident transphobes could name a single athlete playing women's sports or what the team names are.

I couldn't either, because I will admit I don't actually care. I'm a football fan, but other sports don't really interest me beyond seeing a baseball game at Comerica Park with some friends.

#140 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:54 PM

- It's simple as that.

And yet you still haven't the first clue.

Roe was a short cut?

Ridiculous.

#141 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 01:54 PM

If men cared about womens sports theyd fill arenas. they dont.
#103 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

If women cared about women's sports they'd fill arenas too. But they don't.

Until Women's sports start generating the same profits as men's sports, they're not gonna be equal.

#142 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 01:54 PM

If women cared about women's sports they'd fill arenas too. But they don't.

Until Women's sports start generating the same profits as men's sports, they're not gonna be equal.

#142 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag

Exactly true. It's all about the ticket sales, and people DO NOT go to womens sports as much as they do mens sports. That's just a cold hard fact.

#143 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:56 PM

I couldn't either, because I will admit I don't actually care.

Same.

But, also, we don't pretend to care in order to bash the transgender community.

#144 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 01:56 PM

1.6 % of people in the United States identify as non-binary or trans.

They're a minority and therefore an easy target for the party of demagoguery. I'm more concerned with the 47% ceiling Trump somehow enjoys as the worst person alive in the US.

#145 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 01:58 PM

you dont care about womens sports, its an excuse to punch down on trans people.

No, it's about what's right. I dont have to watch a female game to appreciate all women competing, not with the unfair advantage a trans has.

Even just the fact you people are trying to justify putting a man in woman's sports is sickening.

#146 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-30 02:00 PM

"Even just the fact you people are trying to justify putting a man in woman's sports is sickening." -

#146 | Posted by boaz

Men in women's sports?

What's the matter, boaz, you don't like the competition?

Boaz..."thinks taking a sh*t in the street is 'freedom'."

#147 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-30 02:03 PM

Even just the fact you people are trying to justify putting a man in woman's sports is sickening.

Posted by boaz at 2024-10-30 02:00 PM | Reply

No one cares. The arenas are empty. You're not there either. It's just an excuse for you to bash 1.6% of the population for being "weird".

Not to be a dick, BUT...only 18% of heterosexual men have a foot fetish. Only 13% of the population is black, so I would imagine a hetero black guy with a foot fetish is a pretty low percentage.

Maybe we should punch down on YOU? Nah. Enjoy your day.

#148 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 02:03 PM

Oh, and Boaz is a fucking retarded little bitch.

#134 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

Oh, the safety your anonymous handle affords you because of the internet. You are lucky.

I surmise, you are a pussy, scared to confront other men. About like a trans"woman" would do. Doesnt want the responsibility of being a real man. So you put on a dress, lipstick and parade around as the weaker sex.

You arent even worth talking to LegallyYourDead.

#149 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-30 02:03 PM

BACK ON TOPIC: Is a woman dying over abortion because doctors are afraid of prison time "Right" boaz?

I don't think so.

#150 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 02:04 PM

the weaker sex

Good luck getting a date with that talk.

#151 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 02:05 PM

They let this woman die not because they were afraid of a fine. They let her die to make a political statement. Millions of babies die every year and not one peep.

#152 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-10-30 02:08 PM

They were afraid of jail time and losing their license.

It wasn't a "political statement" you idiot.

#153 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 02:09 PM

The penalty was at max a civil fine, no jail or license penalty. Her death was a sacrifice to make a political statement.

#154 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-10-30 02:13 PM

They let this woman die because Republican legislation prevented them from saving her life.
#152 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You hate women and you vote for people who want them to die.

#155 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 02:13 PM

The doctors involved in Barnica's care at HCA Houston Healthcare Northwest did not respond to multiple requests for comment on her case. In a statement, HCA Healthcare said "our responsibility is to be in compliance with applicable state and federal laws and regulations" and said that physicians exercise their independent judgment. The company did not respond to a detailed list of questions about Barnica's care.

From the article you didn't read.

#156 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-30 02:15 PM

From the article you didn't read.
#156 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

I doubt any of our Deplorable Trumping MAGAt corespondents read anything.

They just post their ignorant opinions and expect to be taken seriously.

#157 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-30 02:17 PM

Is a woman dying over abortion because doctors are afraid of prison time "Right" boaz?

Makes me wonder where all the "to save the life of the mother" stipulations come in?

I wonder, were their live in danger?

#158 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-30 02:18 PM

Her death was a sacrifice to make a political statement.

#154 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

That's exactly why you are garbage and called a Deplorable.

Your comments are garbage because you are a deplorable person.

And a liar. Millions of babies don't die every year from abortions or anything else. Though infant mortality IS apparently rising in America.

In 2022, more than 20,500 infants died in the United States, which is a 3% increase from 2021. This resulted in an infant mortality rate of 5.6 deaths per 1,000 live births, which is also a 3% increase from 2021.

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