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Thursday, February 08, 2024

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said on Thursday that Republican senators in the United States should be ashamed for blocking a $60 billion aid package for Ukraine, saying former U.S. President Ronald Reagan would be "turning in his grave".

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Dear Republican Senators of America. Ronald Reagan, who helped millions of us to win back our freedom and independence, must be turning in his grave today," Tusk wrote on social media platform X. "Shame on you."

Putin has the GQP by it's tiny orange -------.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-02-08 01:49 PM | Reply

Poor guy...just doesn't understand modern republicans.

#2 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-02-08 08:00 PM | Reply

Ukraine leadership NATO had said is corrupt to the core and leaders etc are stealing our country blind thanks to war mongering neocons, and outside interests and crooked politicians both D and R. Our country leadership is putting America last instead of first. Even some of our so called best allies scam or use us instead of clearly supporting us.

#3 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-08 08:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

@#1 ... Putin has the GQP by it's tiny orange ------- ...

I cannot disagree.


How Russian Money Helped Save Trump's Business (2018)
foreignpolicy.com

... In the fall of 1992, after he cut a deal with U.S. banks to work off nearly a billion dollars in personal debt, Donald Trump put on a big gala for himself in Atlantic City to announce his comeback. Party guests were given sticks with a picture of Trump's face glued to them so they could be photographed posing as the famous real-estate mogul. As the theme music from the movie Rocky filled the room, an emcee shouted, "Let's hear it for the king!" and Trump, wearing red boxing gloves and a robe, burst through a paper screen. One of his casino executives announced that his boss had returned as a "winner," according to Trump biographer Michael D'Antonio.

But it was mainly an act, D'Antonio told Foreign Policy. In truth Trump was all but finished as a major real-estate developer, in the eyes of many in the business, and that's because the U.S. banking industry was pretty much finished with him. By the early 1990s he had burned through his portion of his father Fred's fortune with a series of reckless business decisions. Two of his businesses had declared bankruptcy, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City and the Plaza Hotel in New York, and the money pit that was the Trump Shuttle went out of business in 1992. Trump companies would ultimately declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy two more times. When would-be borrowers repeatedly file for protection from their creditors, they become poison to most major lenders and, according to financial experts interviewed for this story, such was Trump's reputation in the U.S. financial industry at that juncture.

For the rest of the '90s a chastened Trump launched little in the way of major new business ventures (with a few exceptions, such as the Trump World Tower across from the United Nations, which began construction in 1999 and was financed by two German lenders, Deutsche Bank and Bayerische Hypo- und Vereinsbank). "He took about 10 years off, and really sort of licked his wounds and tried to recover," D'Antonio said. As late as 2003, Trump was in such desperate financial trouble that at a meeting with his siblings following his father's death he pressed them to hurriedly sell his father's estate off, against the late Fred Trump's wishes, the New York Times reported in an investigation of Trump family finances in October. And his businesses kept failing: In 2004, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filed for bankruptcy with $1.8 billion dollars of debt.

But Trump eventually made a comeback, and according to several sources with knowledge of Trump's business, foreign money played a large role in reviving his fortunes, in particular investment by wealthy people from Russia and the former Soviet republics. This conclusion is buttressed by a growing body of evidence amassed by news organizations, as well as what is reportedly being investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Southern District of New York. It is a conclusion that even Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., has appeared to confirm, saying in 2008 -- after the Trump Organization was prospering again -- that "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets." ...


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-08 08:10 PM | Reply

@#4 ... an emcee shouted, "Let's hear it for the king!" and Trump, wearing red boxing gloves and a robe, burst through a paper screen. ...

So, fmr Pres Trump had illusions of grandeur and dictatorship even back then ...


Interesting.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-08 08:12 PM | Reply

@#3 ... Ukraine leadership NATO had said is corrupt to the core and leaders etc are stealing our country blind thanks to war mongering neocons, and outside interests and crooked politicians both D and R. ...

Wow, get a grip.

... Ukraine leadership NATO had said is corrupt to the core ...

Yes, that, as your comment notes, was said in the past. Ukraine seems to be dealing with that and becoming less corrupt.

Then there's ...

... and leaders etc are stealing our country blind thanks to war mongering neocons, and outside interests and crooked politicians both D and R. ...

OK, now we are magically transported to the US in your comment, a comment with no substantiation whatsoever or even any apparent manner of relevance to the first half of your sentence.

Wow.


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-08 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Republican senators in the United States should be ashamed ... "

Republicans have no shame.

Being shameless is the Republicans superpower.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-08 08:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#7 ... Being shameless is the Republicans superpower. ...

I wish I could disagree, but I cannot.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-08 09:17 PM | Reply

Someone should tell him that shame is not in the cards, when it comes to today's Republican Party. They have mobilized hate to negate shame, and so they have people willing to do anything, say anything, no matter how cruel or evil.

#9 | Posted by Hughmass at 2024-02-09 07:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Someone should tell him that shame is not in the cards, when it comes to today's Republican Party. They have mobilized hate to negate shame, and so they have people willing to do anything, say anything, no matter how cruel or evil.

#9 | POSTED BY HUGHMASS

Absolutely true. This is why we are all in such danger. "Cruel or evil", so that they can get what they want, like every cruel and evil person or movement since the dawn f time.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-09 08:11 AM | Reply

Hey, Poleskis--you're next...
--Vlad the warrior prince, unfettered by US intervention

#11 | Posted by catdog at 2024-02-09 09:25 AM | Reply

"Republican senators in the United States should be ashamed ... "

Ha, the Republican's have no shame. That is backed up by the inability to do actual legislation. They can't even agree on what seems to be any bill, much less pass one. They got everything they were demanding on immigration and couldn't say yes to it.

The public display of picking a speaker when they elected McCarthy, just showed how much disarray they have as a party and it has not gotten better since.

#12 | Posted by BBQ at 2024-02-09 09:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My Norwegian girlfriend I were invited to visit Poland on an official state invitation by their communist government as we had sent my Polish friend there a letter and he had to go through his government with another letter for us to visit in December 1986. The Polish government wrote us back and approved our visa with an official document we received while living in Norway. So, me and my Norwegian girlfriend went there and from the moment we crossed the frontier into East Germany and then into Poland to the day we left it was the most depressing place I had ever been in my life. Everybody worked against the interests of the fascist communist government by trading money on the black market. "Not one slot for the government and we will bring them to their knees" was what they all told me. We spent the first three days there trying to get an official stamp from the government on our passports that said we exchanged five dollars American money with their currency as my buddy would not let us exchange the money as that would be feeding the beast. We went to hotels, police stations and government agencies and the look on those people's faces was pretty funny. We never got the stamp. They had no food to eat as Chernobyl had just happened and on every street stood government spies. When people passed by they never talked in front of large scary men in long black leather trench jackets as they were terrified by them. Every single Pole that I met told me, "Ronald Reagan good! Bomb Russia!". I was taken aback by this as my US upbringing and time in the US Army special forces had taught me that all the people on the other side of the Iron Curtain were commies that wished us dead. "We want democracy in Poland!" "Not your American, or British or French democracy but Polish democracy". We had a hell of a time getting out as we had no travel visa to go to Czechoslovakia so they took us off that train and shipped us back to Poland and then we had to starve all the way to East Berlin hoping that we could buy a travel visa on the train. And, since we had no stamp on our passports that showed we exchanged our dollars for their money they tossed a fit at the boarders twice with us. The soldiers came on the train and took off several middle aged Polish workers that went to East Berlin's factories to work as we were in the cart with them on the trains and the other workers blamed us for their plight. In the end, we made a couple promises to the Poles that I met there. The first was to never forget about their plight under the Russian boot, and the other was to never drink Russian vodka again. I may have broken that second promise but I kept the first and whenever I hear some no nothing loud mouth conservative or know it all university professor here in the states tell me that NATO forced Russia into attacking Ukraine I wish to smash them in the mouth. If you think the US and the West should give up on Ukraine's battle for freedom I suggest you go live in Russia, or China or North Korea or maybe Venezuela and tell me what you think then. You types that wish to toss away 45 million Ukrainians chance to have a free country are cowards of the worst sort if you ask me.

#13 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-02-09 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#13

Way NW.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-09 10:46 AM | Reply

So, how many billions of dollars, and vast numbers of equipment and ammunition has Poland sent to the Ukraine?

#15 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-02-09 12:02 PM | Reply

What happened to the good old days when Republicans would have turned their heads when commies were being thrown out of helicopters?

Now it's almost like Repubs are defending, perhaps even supporting the commies.

I'm still of the opinion it's better to throw them out of helicopters.

"So, how many billions of dollars, and vast numbers of equipment and ammunition has Poland sent to the Ukraine?"

Poland is poised to be the largest ground army in free Europe. It will be the Poles who are the first to counter the commies, should they decide to move west. I think the Poles might even be hoping for a fight.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-02-09 01:56 PM | Reply

I think the Poles might even be hoping for a fight.

Wouldn't you?

#17 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-02-09 02:01 PM | Reply

To which, "commies" do you refer?

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-09 02:03 PM | Reply

Europe should be the one supposedly "defending" Ukraine if what they want is war forever. Ukraine should have negotiated early on. War is killing Ukraine while making their crooked leader Zelensky into another oligarch. USA needs to defend our borders and our treasury and dollar.

#19 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-09 02:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

USA needs to defend our borders and our treasury and dollar.

#19 | Posted by Robson

Mexico is not attacking us. Russia is.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-09 02:09 PM | Reply

Yeah!

Any country invaded by civilians targeting neighbors should capitulate right away.

Isn't that whet Murica did when the Brits invaded territory they considered their own colonies?

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-09 02:11 PM | Reply

Good thing France was there to give a Colonial a hand.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-09 02:12 PM | Reply

"Now it's almost like Repubs are defending, perhaps even supporting the commies."

Republicans have more in common with Communists than with Democrats.

It's especially funny after years of Republicans calling Democrats "Communists!"

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-09 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, how many billions of dollars, and vast numbers of equipment and ammunition has Poland sent to the Ukraine?
#15 | POSTED BY MSGT

$3.6B
from Jan. 24, 2022 to July 31, 2023

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-09 02:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoogles, free search engine!

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-09 02:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"To which, "commies" do you refer?"

All of them.

#26 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-02-10 05:03 AM | Reply

"It's especially funny after years of Republicans calling Democrats "Communists!"

Dude, it's not funny.

It's insane.

Republicans should be figuring out how to transfer F-22s and nuclear weapons to Ukraine. It should be the left saying that the commies are not our enemies, but rather the people we should emulate.

I just wonder how this would have all played out had Ronald Reagan been the president right now. Things might be a bit different.

Do repubs still like Reagan? I'm guessing in a Trump world, there is no longer room for Reagan. Or anyone else.

#27 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-02-10 05:06 AM | Reply

"Dude, it's not funny.
It's insane."

It's smart, if you're Putin.
What's insane about Putin co-opting the GOP?
Are you denying it's the reason for all this?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-10 09:41 AM | Reply

"What's insane about Putin co-opting the GOP?"

Putin didn't co-opt the GOP. Trump did.

And as of right now ~30% of Republicans would suck a dick on the 50-yard line at the Superbowl if Trump suggested it was a good idea.

#29 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-02-10 10:17 AM | Reply

"Putin didn't co-opt the GOP. Trump did."

A difference without much of a distinction, because Trump works for Putin.

Do you think Trump is the only Republican asset that has been groomed by Putin? Yes or no.
Assuming you're going to be in such deep denial as to say No, what about the NRA?

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-10 10:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And as of right now ~30% of Republicans would suck a dick on the 50-yard line at the Superbowl if Trump suggested it was a good idea."

More like 70%.

Republicans who love America, while there's a Democrat in the White House... they are the minority. MAGAs call them RINOs.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-10 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

we're gonna have war because totalitarianism needs war.
It's that simple.
"Give me the power and only then will I end this."
They say it every time.

#32 | Posted by libs_of_dr at 2024-02-10 02:13 PM | Reply

War is the fit thrown by a child that doesn't get his way.

#33 | Posted by libs_of_dr at 2024-02-10 02:14 PM | Reply

we're gonna have war because ...

Because Russia invaded the Ukraine and were stepping in to help, so is the rest of Europe.

I get it. You Putin fkkk boys are upset.

How dare anyone stand up to Putin's imperial ambitions.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-10 02:19 PM | Reply

Do repubs still like Reagan?
#27 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

The guy who handed out asylum to those seeking it?

He'd be crucified as a RINO and yeeted from the party.

Same as the Bushes, the Cheneys, the McCains, the Romneys ... none of them fit into today's Republican Party and all of them have been labeled RINOs.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-10 02:24 PM | Reply

Do repubs still like Reagan?
#27 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

You have got to be kidding me.
Stop living under a rock.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-10 02:26 PM | Reply

"we're gonna have war because totalitarianism needs war.
It's that simple."

It's Russia's war. It's their "special operation". Not ours. They violently invaded and killed their neighbors. The remaining neighbors asked us for help. So we helped.

I thought you maga maroons were all against being countries invaded?

Now you are all ok with it? Ya'll are so confused. Get your stories straight.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-10 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"To which, "commies" do you refer?"

All of them.

#26 | Posted by madbomber

Name one.

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-10 04:30 PM | Reply

we're gonna have war because totalitarianism needs war.
It's that simple.
"Give me the power and only then will I end this."
They say it every time.

#32 | Posted by libs_of_dr

Oh like trump said about about the american "carnage" he would end?

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-10 04:31 PM | Reply

S'riously.

List of Every Communist Country in the World as of 2021:
China
Cuba
Laos (Lao People's Democratic Republic)
North Korea
Vietnam

worldpopulationreview.com

there's a map with those countries colored in at the link... in case MB needs a visual aid...

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-10 04:34 PM | Reply

.. in case MB needs a visual aid...

You're just begging for another Socialism lecture. :-)

#41 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-02-10 05:06 PM | Reply

'S Ok, he's about run out of commies near Poland.

And there's a lot more socialists in Germany now than after Hitler started killing them when he didn't need the popularity of their name for his Party.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-10 05:12 PM | Reply

"Laos (Lao People's Democratic Republic)"

Nah, that's a Democracy...it's right there in the name!
~MB

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-10 05:22 PM | Reply

Just ask the Ko-Reans.

#44 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-10 05:23 PM | Reply

Same with the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).

Obvious Democrats!

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-10 06:45 PM | Reply

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