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Dems Flip George Santos' Seat
Democrat Tom Suozzi will be returning to Congress after winning Tuesday's special election to replace former Republican Rep. George Santos, who was expelled from the House in an unprecedented December vote.
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Suozzi, who had held New York's 3rd District for three terms before unsuccessfully running for governor in 2022, was leading Republican Mazi Pilip by a 59-41 margin with an estimated 52% of the vote tallied when the race was called. Republicans ran a barrage of ads attacking Suozzi over immigration, but Democrats fired back by emphasizing Pilip's opposition to abortion.
#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-13 10:16 PM | Reply
Democrats flip Santos's New York House seat in high-stakes special election
Former Rep. Tom Suozzi (D) has won back his old seat in the House, giving Democrats a critical pickup that will further narrow the GOP House majority, according to a projection from Decision Desk HQ.
The race was seen as an important bellwether heading into the November general election, as New York will be key to Democrats' strategy to win back control of the House. The 3rd Congressional District is one of five in the state that voted for Biden in 2020 but elected a Republican representative in 2022.
thehill.com
#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-13 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
MSM tomorrow:
Democrat Souzzi won in NY special election. Here's why that's bad for Democrats.
#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-13 10:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 3
I'm surprised that blue states like NY elect any GOP reps or senators at all, seeing as how the Republicans imposed the SALT caps that targeted blue states with surgical precision.
moneyandmarkets.com
#4 | Posted by censored at 2024-02-13 11:01 PM | Reply
Santos won this seat by 7.5 points. MAGA Mike went in there. Stefanik went in there. They made the whole campaign about the border. And they got destroyed.
~ Ron Filipkowski ~
#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-02-13 11:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
A good day indeed.
#6 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-13 11:03 PM | Reply
@#4 ... I'm surprised that blue states like NY elect any GOP reps or senators at all, ...
There are districts in blue states like NY (and CT, and ...) which run quite against the blue state appellation.
For example, here in Connecticut, there is Greenwich, CT, and Litchfield County, CT. Among many others.
Solidly red areas.
And. to its credit, Connecticut seems to toggle between Republican and Democratic governors.
As a result, apparently, seems to be a state that is doing OK.
YMMV, and all that.
#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-13 11:20 PM | Reply
There are districts in blue states like NY (and CT, and ...) which run quite against the blue state appellation. [...] #7 | Posted by LampLighter
Yeah, but I figured that hitting them in the pocket book with the SALT cap would have slapped some sense into them long enough to realize that the GOP was gunning for anyone from a state that didn't vote for Trump. I guess their hatred for trans and Mexicans was more pressing.
#8 | Posted by censored at 2024-02-13 11:36 PM | Reply
@#8 ... I figured that hitting them in the pocket book with the SALT cap would have slapped some sense into them ...
Your comment seems to conflate ~common sense~ with Republicans.
Do you not see the fundamental issue with that?
#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-14 12:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1
With 97% reporting Suozzi is leading by 8 points. That's a 16 point swing in favor of the Democratic candidate since Kitara Ravache won the seat just 15 months ago.
#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-14 12:42 AM | Reply
Democrat Tom Suozzi wins New York special election to succeed George Santos in Congress www.nbcnewyork.com
... Suozzi defeated Republican Mazi Pilip to take the seat that was left vacant when George Santos, also a Republican, was expelled from Congress ...
So... those, what I called "viscous" attack ads by the GOP, did not seem to work.
Interesting....
#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-14 01:31 AM | Reply
If Suozzi had already been sworn in then the House would not have been able to impeach Mayorkas earlier in the day.
#12 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-14 02:18 AM | Reply
@#12 ... If Suozzi had already been sworn in then the House would not have been able to impeach Mayorkas earlier in the day. ...
Yeah. Perhaps that is a rallying call that Spkr Johnson used against the members of his party?
Going forward, the House could be interesting to watch....
#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-14 03:03 AM | Reply
I choose to see this as an insight into what is going to happen in the general election of 2024, including president.
As has been pointed out, the Democrat was able to re-tool immigration as a weapon against MAGA.
All that took was Donald Trump handing it to them on a silver platter.
Way to go Dona;d, you stable genius.
#14 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-14 07:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Mike Lawler, who currently holds another seat in a district Biden won, was confident Mazi would beat Souzzi, video at link:
Eric Swalwell @ericswalwell
They're so smug. And you made them so wrong. Let's beat Mike Lawler next in New York.
twitter.com
Let's beat Lawler in 2024!
#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-14 08:21 AM | Reply
I understand that MAGA now regrets the loss of Santos. That's because power matters to them a lot more than corruption.
#16 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-14 09:32 AM | Reply
The Polls had this as a tight race.
The Polls were way off.
That's not good news for Republicans.
#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-02-14 10:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Maybe I'm wrong but I like one other thing about this a LOT - and that's that this win happened during a big snow storm. I read that as a test on enthusiasm and determination.
#18 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-14 10:19 AM | Reply
A professional politician won .. Yeah ... not surprising .. unfortunate for a country such as America.
Or POC "Mazi Melesa Pilip" was a Ethiopian Jew.
#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-14 10:44 AM | Reply
A professional politician won .. Yeah ... not surprising .. unfortunate for a country such as America. That's not good news for Republicans. Or POC "Mazi Melesa Pilip" was a Ethiopian Jew.
#19 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT
Both candidates had previously served in the legislature I believe.
And yes, she is a person of color and that STILL didn't help draw in votes.
Whatever makes you feel better. But what you said just makes it ten times worse for Republicans.
#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-02-14 10:50 AM | Reply
"Out with the Crazy, and in with the Sanity"
this should be the Dem slogan going into the election vs the Magacrat GOP.
#21 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-14 11:00 AM | Reply
Whatever makes you feel better.
#20 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT: An unfillible well.
#22 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-14 11:01 AM | Reply
Conniving Democrats have learned to rig elections. Republicans need to learn to outsmart and promote candidates that actually represent most American values and culture.
#23 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-14 11:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 2
Conniving Democrats have learned to rig elections.
#23 | POSTED BY ROBSON Well, then. I guess that Trump is SOL in November. Makes one wonder why he's even in the race? I mean, all that successful Democrat conniving means he's going to prison regardless.
#24 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-14 11:11 AM | Reply
#21 Also: out with the chaos, in with stability.
Or: out with chaos, in with cooperation.
#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-14 11:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Republicans need to learn to outsmart and promote candidates that actually represent most American values and culture.
#23 | POSTED BY ROBSON: You feel like you're losing, don't you?
#26 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-14 11:12 AM | Reply
Out with retribution, in with moving forward for the American people.
#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-14 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"Conniving Democrats have learned to rig elections."
Just say what you mean: Republicans are too stupid and impotent to stop Democrats from eating their lunch.
#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-14 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Exit polls pointed to the GQP dysfunction on the border bill and abortion bans as drivers of their choice of Suozzi.
Congratulations GQP...you built that.
#29 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-14 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Why are our political parties actually promoting foreign nationals in our Congress if not to divide and destroy our values and opportunities? You think these other countries are promoting Americans in their government or even to be eligible for citizenship. As one example we all give Israel billions and only 2% of our citizens are eligible for immigration there. We need to shut down the policy of allowing other countries to do to us what they refuse to allow from us.
#30 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-14 11:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Meanwhile magat mike and the rest of the gqp clown show impeached Mayorkas over nothing... not a high crime and not a misdemeanor.
What a disgrace they have become.
#31 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-14 11:24 AM | Reply
31
And as one GOPher congress critter admitted yesterday, they did it as, "political retribution", not because of impeachable offences.
#32 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-14 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Why are our political parties actually promoting foreign nationals in our Congress if not to divide and destroy our values and opportunities? You think these other countries are promoting Americans in their government or even to be eligible for citizenship. We give Israel billions and only 2% of our citizens are eligible for immigration there. We need to shut down the policy of allowing other countries to do to us what they refuse to allow from us.
#33 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-14 11:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Russian Robotson has the hiccups.
#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-14 11:33 AM | Reply
I could see Johnson just refusing to seat this guy somehow if it makes a difference. That is how ------ up today's GOP is. You cannot overstate how shameless they are and how little they value democracy.
#35 | Posted by JOE at 2024-02-14 11:34 AM | Reply
#23
The smell of losing surrounds you.
#36 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-02-14 12:03 PM | Reply
#30
Yeah, that's what this voting business is for. It's not like a monolithic government apparatus is appointing 'foreign nationals' to represent citizens
#37 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-02-14 12:07 PM | Reply
#36 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT
Oooh that smell! Can't you smell that smell?
The smell of death surrounds them.
#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-14 12:35 PM | Reply
#19 | Posted by oneironaut
And there you have the republican excuse - they lost because they nominated a minority, not because they were an embarrassment of incompetence and lies.
#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-14 12:55 PM | Reply
Why are our political parties actually promoting foreign nationals in our Congress if not to divide and destroy our values and opportunities?
#33 | Posted by Robson
Why did YOUR political cult leader promote a russian asset to be his campaign manager if not to serve russia and destroy our values and opportunities?
#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-14 12:56 PM | Reply
#23 | Posted by Robson
The elections aren't rigged people just don't like you.
If they WERE rigged, then your recommendations to pick whiter candidates wouldnt help so why recommend it?
#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-14 12:57 PM | Reply
#31 | Posted by Nixon
Keep in mind that if they had waited until today to vote to impeach Mayorkas, they would not have had enough votes (it would have been a tie). They had to hold the vote on Tuesday because that was the last chance that Speaker Johnson was going to get and he knew it.
OCU
#42 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-02-14 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Or POC "Mazi Melesa Pilip" was a Ethiopian Jew. #19 | Posted by oneironaut
She showed her true color to me by admitting she voted for grumpy Trumpy.
She waited until the last minute to admit it or she probably would have lost by even more.
#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-14 01:30 PM | Reply
We don't need to rig elections when the GQP is the biggest sh*tshow on the planet.....
Taking 15 votes to elect a speaker who agreed to allow just one person to call for a vote to kick him out who was the first speaker forced out in a hundred years then the slap fight commenced to elect a new speaker who has no bank account who takes his orders from dementia don.
Unless you mean "rigging" elections by allowing the GQP to keep on stepping on the rakes they leave lying on the ground.
via GIPHY
#44 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-14 02:27 PM | Reply
Trump is now claiming that if the Republican candidate in New York's 3rd Congressional district, Mazi Melesa Pilip, had not refused to endorse him for his 2024 presidential run, then he would have endorsed her and she would have won by a landslide. He just had to make the election about him.
That being said, I suspect that Trump should be careful of what he wishes for as I think that at some level, the New York election WAS about him, whether there were any endorsements handed-out or not.
#45 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-02-14 02:33 PM | Reply
It remains to be seen if Rs will swear Suozzi in or if they give him the Garland treatment.
#46 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2024-02-14 05:18 PM | Reply
Maybe I'm wrong but I like one other thing about this a LOT - and that's that this win happened during a big snow storm. I read that as a test on enthusiasm and determination. #18 | POSTED BY YAV
It could just be that Dems were more likely to vote early.
#47 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-14 05:52 PM | Reply
#46 | Posted by SomebodyElse
The Speaker of the House has no choice but to swear-in duly-elected members of Congress, whether elected during a normal election cycle or as the result of a special election to fill a vacancy. It's spelled-out in Chapter 33 of the 'Guide to the Rules, Precedents and Procedures of the House of Representatives'.
And one other point, the Constitution requires that all House seats that become vacant, must be filled as soon as practical. But because the House was intended to represent the people, as opposed to a state, which is the case with the Senate, the Founder Fathers took extra care to assure that ALL of the nation's citizens would always be represented by a member of Congress. Filling vacancies in the Senate is actually the responsibility of the state that they represent and the mechanism by which a vacancy is filled may or may not depend on a special election. However, vacant House seats MUST be filled by calling a special election. House membership can only be conferred by the voters in the relevant district, making their choice known by holding a free and open election.
#48 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-02-14 09:03 PM | Reply
Buddy ... i like your posts and usually agree with you. But you might as well be citing an ancient Sanskrit text. It is fantasy to believe that Republicans still consider themselves bound by rules or customs of any kind. The sooner Democratic Party leaders acknowledge that, the better.
#49 | Posted by JOE at 2024-02-14 09:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#17 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT
Yep, Trump and MAGA are so ------ in November.
We will hear the faint crying of "but but but the polls" on election night as the Dems will Control both houses of Congress and the WH.
I highly suggest everyone stock up on popcorn and butter.
#50 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-02-14 11:52 PM | Reply
Not to mention the cheese and whine...
#51 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-02-15 12:10 AM | Reply
Trump loses another election for the GOP. Good.
#52 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-02-15 10:02 AM | Reply
Trump loses another election for the GOP. Good. #52 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE
This loss should send a bigger message to the GOP than that. I think they already know that.
In 2022 it was still possible for so called "moderate" republicans to run away from Trump. This loss sends the message that is no longer possible. Pilip did not receive his endorsement and she distanced herself from him. The current GOP house has demonstrated that perfectly from the mess they've made with the Speakership and being the most ineffective House in the history of the country. The Senate has tried to avoid that mess but they rolled in it recently with killing the border security bill that many of them have fought for years, decades even, to get. Congressional GOP collectively took the one big accomplishment they could have had to run on this fall and they flushed it because the cult leader said so.
Then again maybe I'm overstating it and it is something more local such as voters in the district feeling burned by Santos not willing to give a republican another chance so soon or perhaps it is the old standard, all politics is local, and they took an honest look at the two candidates and saw one who was clearly the better choice.
#53 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-15 10:46 AM | Reply
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