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Tuesday, May 21, 2024

Anti-abortion activists have sought full legal rights for embryos since the Seventies. Today, Alabamians are learning the true cost of that fight, from IVF access to miscarriage management and pregnancy criminalization.

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Chemical endangerment of a child. The Alabama law, passed in 2006, was intended to target those who expose children to toxic chemicals, or worse, explosions, while manufacturing methamphetamine in ad-hoc home labs.

In Etowah County, in 2013, the sheriff, the district attorney, and the head of the local child-welfare agency held a press conference to announce they intended to aggressively enforce that 2006 law. Instead of going after the manufacturers of meth, though, they planned to target pregnant women who used virtually any substance they deemed harmful to a developing fetus.

"If a baby is born with a controlled-substance dependency, the mother is going to jail," then-Sheriff Todd Entrekin said at the time. Police weren't required to establish that a child was born with a chemical dependency, though--or even that a fetus experienced any harm--a drug test, a confession, or just an accusation of substance use during pregnancy was enough to arrest women for a first offense that carries a maximum sentence of 10 years. One public defender would later call these "unwinnable cases."

Over the following decade, Etowah County imprisoned hundreds of mothers--some of whom were detained, before trial, for the rest of their pregnancies, inside one of the most brutal and inhumane prisons in the country, denied access to prenatal care and adequate nutrition, they say--in the name of protecting their children from harm.

Etowah County officials didn't come up with this idea themselves. They borrowed it from a district attorney who began testing the limits of the chemical-endangerment law years earlier in a different part of the state. Steve Marshall's theory--which essentially treats the uterus as a home meth lab, and the fetus a living child--was appealed to the Alabama Supreme Court. In 2013, the justices declared the term "child" included embryos at any stage of development, marking the first time a state Supreme Court anywhere in the United States recognized that embryos and fetuses had legal rights before the point of viability.

In the past two decades, Alabama has become the undisputed champion of arresting pregnant women for actions that wouldn't be considered crimes if they weren't pregnant: 649 arrests between 2006 and 2022, almost as many arrests as documented in all other states combined, according to advocacy group Pregnancy Justice, which collected the statistics. Across the U.S., the vast majority of women arrested on these charges were too poor to afford a lawyer, and a quarter of cases were based on the use of a legal substance, like prescription medication.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-20 09:31 PM | Reply

But it gets worse if you can believe it. Republicans really do hate women. The cruelty is the point and it is hideous. Coming to every state in the union if they have their way. Just read the article to see what I mean.

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-20 09:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just a reminder that even should ------- lose the election, inevitably a Republican president will win, whether 2028 or 2032 or 2036

At that point, they will enact a nationwide abortion ban, either legislatively or through executive action or through enforcement of the Comstock Act.

This is and will be the inevitable result of the SC conservative super majority.

This supermajority will certainly last until Thomas (75) and Alito (75) are off the bench.

If ------- wins in November, the supermajority is essentially locked in for the next 30 years or so as those two will retire and be replaced with even more fringe justices (look at the 5th circuit justices for an example of the crazy).

If ------- loses, Thomas and Alito will stick around till 2028 or even 2032.

Keep in mind that Congress cannot PROTECT abortion since this court said abortion is NOT a right, therefore, Congress cannot pass a law that will be upheld by this Supermajority SC. Congress simply does not have the power under the constitution to protect something like this (in a way that this SC will recognize it).

Congress CAN pass a law essentially outlawing abortion by preventing the interstate sale of abortion drugs and equipment used in abortions (though some of those tools are dual use). Congress has that authority under the Commerce Clause.

SOOOOO, best case we can reelect Biden and HOPE at least one of those 2 dies and a 5-4 court can be more reasonable.

You were told, you were warned.

In my mind, democracy then the court are the 2 most important issues at stake in November. EVERYTHING else pales by comparison. Unfortunately there are too many ignorant voters in this country.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-20 10:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"Just a reminder that even should ------- lose the election, inevitably a Republican president will win, whether 2028 or 2032 or 2036
At that point, they will enact a nationwide abortion ban, either legislatively or through executive action or through enforcement of the Comstock Act."

According to this article, with the current SC, it could happen without an act of CongressL

It wouldn't take an act of Congress for the fetal-personhood movement to clinch a federal victory, either. If a case were brought to the Supreme Court, a conservative majority might look to state laws treating embryos as people around the country and conclude that America has a "history and tradition" of recognizing fetal rights. If they do, women all across the United States would be in the same position that women in Alabama are in today.

A second Trump turn will certainly seal the deal and sped up the process, but the first Trump term is proving much more costly than most people naively believed would be possible when they voted for him in 2016.

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-20 10:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

They can vote, too, but they're automatically registered Republicant.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-20 10:52 PM | Reply

democracy then the court are the 2 most important issues at stake in November.

So, the same as 2016?

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-20 11:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What is a woman?

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-21 10:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

What is a woman?

#7 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

If you don't know then your parents failed you.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-21 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

What is a woman?

#7 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

BTW look at that distraction. An issue that effects less than 1% of the American people has bigots like jeff using it as a major distraction.

Our country is in the process of a major regressive cultural shift with a goal of a white christian nationalist society.

3 of the SC justices were appointed by ------- and 2 more are clearly magats.

Re-electing Biden is essential if there is even a hope of stopping this regressive revolution.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-21 10:59 AM | Reply

even a hope of stopping this regressive revolution.

It will never pass the misogynists in the Senate like tumblevile, paul, graham, scott, rubio, scott, cruz, johnson, etc.

I wonder what shaky susan collins thinks of the promises she received from comey, keggenaugh and gorsuch that roe was settled law now?

She's another useless relic that needs to retire.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-21 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What is a woman?

#7 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Since you don't seems to know, perhaps you're having trouble defining your own sexuality. Whether that is or isn't the case, why would you worry about anyone else's?

#11 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-05-21 02:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What is a woman?

#7 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Property.

-Republicans

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-21 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The war on men and women honestly comes from leftists and radicals that are always looking for stupid ways, or finding policies or via identity politics to make us hate each other because of things we cant do anything about, instead of encouraging more character and behavior that we can change. They do not know what they want except to divide us. Being a Democrat today based upon most of the people I know comes down to finding reasons to find or make anger and hate. Always pissed about something. The worst are the ones with a permanent chip about new absurdities like gender and stupid stuff that people normally do not care about.

#13 | Posted by Robson at 2024-05-21 02:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

One has to admit Robotson has this, "blame the other guy for exactly what you are doing" Trump Big Lie Formula down pat.

Congrats, I guess.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-21 02:34 PM | Reply

BellRinger doesn't give a shht about women and is fully on board with states like Alabama stripping them of all their rights and freedoms.

He only pretends to care about women when he needs to bash transgender women.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-21 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The war on men and women honestly comes from leftists and radicals that are always looking for stupid ways, or finding policies or via identity politics to make us hate each other because of things we cant do anything about ...

Like abortion?

Yeah them ebil democrats sure made us hate each other over that didn't they?

It was just awful that the Biden crime family put them activist Supreme Court justices on the court that lied about their intentions with Roe v Wade.

What? Republicans did that and are proud of it?

My bad.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-21 02:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

What is a woman?
#7 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Someone who crosses the street when they see you coming.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-21 03:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

Being a Democrat today based upon most of the people I know comes down to finding reasons to find or make anger and hate. Always pissed about something. The worst are the ones with a permanent chip about new absurdities like gender and stupid stuff that people normally do not care about.

Trump leaves the door open to new restrictions on contraception

Former President Donald Trump said he's "looking at" restrictions on contraception during an interview with a local TV station in Pittsburgh released Tuesday. While he didn't provide any details, he told KDKA political analyst Jon Delano that he plans to share a policy on contraception "very shortly."

Shut up you gaslighting alternate reality dweller. Just like Trump himself, projection is all you've got. Every single word you write in criticism of Democrats is indeed a criticism of every restrictive, intrusive fever dream of Republican supremacists, from Presidential candidate down through most MAGAts.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-05-21 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump says he's taking a close look at contraception restrictions currently: www.politico.com

The good news is, he isn't actually taking a look at anything. He doesn't have the attention span for that. The bad news is that someone is looking at this for him and he will try to do something with this if it's popular with his base. Since his base is largely stupid, it will be popular.

#19 | Posted by anton at 2024-05-21 03:20 PM | Reply

What is a woman?

A ten-year-old rape victim in the ol' Confederacy.

#20 | Posted by anton at 2024-05-21 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Well, this country was originally populated by religious radicals. I guess they never went away...

#21 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-05-21 03:25 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by anton

8 for that matter. It just doesn't matter to the loons in charge (or most of the state it seems).

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-05-21 03:29 PM | Reply

Just a reminder that since Dobbs:

1. An increase in the rate of abortions
2. Increase in the difficulty/cost of obtaining an abortion.
3. Increase in danger of getting an abortion.
4. Increase in women choosing not to get pregnant.
5. Increase in the number of men and women choosing sterilization.

This is your world in conservatism. Attempting to increase population, passing policies that reduce the number of children being born, reducing the future number of children to be born, while simultaneously making pregnancy more difficult and dangerous.

Parents, do not let your kids grow up to be conservatives.

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-21 03:37 PM | Reply

"The anti-abortion movement's end goal is to let doctors refuse treatment " including life-saving emergency care " for patients whom they deem to be sinful and morally impure." The patients, largely women, are supposed to die for their sins.

Rebecca Solnit

#24 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2024-05-21 04:26 PM | Reply

Video at link:

Gavin Newsom
@GavinNewsom
Trump just announced he's looking at contraception restrictions.

This is just the beginning.

x.com

We have been warned.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-21 08:43 PM | Reply

What is a woman?
#7 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Someone who must be forced to give birth no matter what.

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-21 08:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

What is a woman?
#7 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Someone whose rights and freedoms are controlled, and eliminated, by cisgender heterosexual men.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-21 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Jeff doesn't believe we Trans people exist. It's typical of the Right Wingers. It's sad but what can you do??

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-21 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dotard claims he wants to make America great again, but POTUS has already made us the greatest country on earth. Combover Quisling's slogan should be "Make America Alabama."

#29 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2024-05-22 06:41 AM | Reply

Another day, another dragging for ole Jeff.

#30 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-22 07:57 AM | Reply

The whole South is trying to take a time machine back to the
1950's. The GOP is letting them...

#31 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-22 02:19 PM | Reply

Why is there a trans discussion tied to this? A trans-woman has a prostate and not a uterus.

The female human beings discussed in this article do not have prostates. This is about taking away the rights of female human beings over control of their own bodies.

Pregnancy is a women's and children's health issue, not a body modification or mental health issue.

#32 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-05-22 05:42 PM | Reply

#13 | Posted by Robson at 2024-05-21 02:29 PM | Reply | Flag: Demented Dirtbag

#33 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-05-22 05:58 PM | Reply

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