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Wednesday, October 23, 2024

Donald Trump's longest-serving chief of staff is warning that the Republican presidential nominee meets the definition of a fascist and that while in office, Trump suggested that Nazi leader Adolf Hitler "did some good things."

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... The comments from John Kelly, the retired Marine general who worked for Trump in the White House from 2017 to 2019, came in interviews with both The New York Times and The Atlantic. They build on a a growing series of warnings from former top Trump officials as the election enters its final weeks.

Kelly has long been critical of Trump and previously accused him of calling veterans killed in combat "suckers" and "losers." Still, his new warnings came just two weeks before Election Day, as Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers "enemies from within."

"He commented more than once that, You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

In his interview with The Atlantic, Kelly recalled that when Trump raised the idea of needing "German generals," Kelly would ask if he meant "Bismarck's generals," referring to Otto von Bismarck, the former chancellor of the German Reich who oversaw the unification of Germany.

"Surely you can't mean Hitler's generals," Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, "Yeah, yeah, Hitler's generals." ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-23 12:42 PM | Reply

I hope he meant like the ones that wanted to blow Hitler to pieces.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-23 02:17 PM | Reply

@#2

I doubt it, given his propensity for wanting to use the military against those who disagree with him.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-23 02:47 PM | Reply

"The Sad, Pathetic Spectacle of John Kelly's Critics
Trump's sycophants want us to trust them over our own eyes and ears.

excerpt after quotes from Trump sycophants...

"Are we supposed to believe that this is all about some personal tiff between Kelly and Trump when so many others have so many similar accounts?

When Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, told us that "the American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution" on January 6th?

When James Mattis said Trump's "use of the presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice"?

When Mark Esper said Trump was "unfit for office," and put "himself before country"?

When John Bolton warned that "this will be a retribution presidency"?

When Ty Cobb said Trump's "conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy and of the nation"?

When Mark Milley called Trump "fascist to the core" and "the most dangerous person to this country"?

When Bill Barr said Trump "shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office"?

I have another idea:

Why don't we accept the obvious truth that is staring us in the face? Trump is dangerous and unfit and all the responsible people who served in his last term have told us as much."

www.thebulwark.com

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-23 04:30 PM | Reply

"Donald Trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable, and in a second term, people like John Kelly would not be there to be the guardrails against his propensities and his actions. Those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there and no longer be there to rein him in," Harris said.

Harris said that the remarks relayed by Kelly showed that Trump "does not want a military that is loyal to the United States constitution".

"He wants a military who will be loyal to him, personally, one that will obey his orders, even when he tells them to break the law or abandon their oath to the constitution of the United States," she said.

Posing the question as a stark choice for US voters going to the polls for the presidential election on 5 November, she added:

"We know what Donald Trump wants. He wants unchecked power. The question in 13 days will be what do the American people want."

www.theguardian.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-23 04:48 PM | Reply

Umm, are there any generals available who are like "Hitler's generals"?

Did he name names? Can anybody name names?

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-23 04:49 PM | Reply

@#5 ... Harris said that the remarks relayed by Kelly showed that Trump "does not want a military that is loyal to the United States constitution".

"He wants a military who will be loyal to him, personally, one that will obey his orders, even when he tells them to break the law or abandon their oath to the constitution of the United States," she said. ...

Yup. That seems to be the case.

From what I remember from high school history...

Hitler Oath
en.wikipedia.org

... The Hitler Oath (German: Fhrereid or Fhrer Oath)"also referred in English as the Soldier's Oath[1]"refers to the oaths of allegiance sworn by officers and soldiers of the Wehrmacht and civil servants of Nazi Germany between the years 1934 and 1945.

The oath pledged personal loyalty to Adolf Hitler rather than loyalty to the constitution of the country.

Historians view the personal oath of the Third Reich as an important psychological element to obey orders for committing war crimes, atrocities, and genocide.[2] During the Nuremberg trials, many German officers unsuccessfully attempted to use the oath as a defence against charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity.[3] ...[emphasis mine]

So, maybe this is one of the "good things" that fmr Pres Trump thinks that Hitler did?



#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-23 06:50 PM | Reply

Trump wanting generals like Hitler's is what's made Elon Musk his right hand man.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-23 06:55 PM | Reply

are there any generals available who are like "Hitler's generals"?

Are there people in America, who hate Jews and gays and socialists and liberals and progressives?

Looks like you found your generals.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-23 06:56 PM | Reply

Don't Forget about hating transgenders and Immigrants!

Hell. There are a handful of eager generals right here on the DR.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-23 06:58 PM | Reply

Not much right wing response to this disclosure. Which speaks volumes.

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-10-23 07:26 PM | Reply

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