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Sunday, November 17, 2024

The Biden Administration is allowing Ukraine to use US arms to strike inside Russia, a reversal of policy. It is unclear if incoming president Donald Trump would continue the new policy.

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It's about ------ time!

#1 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-11-17 03:30 PM | Reply

Has the 300 lb orange chomo apologized in advance to his orc superiors?

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-11-17 03:39 PM | Reply

It is unclear if incoming president Donald Trump would continue the new policy.

Of course not. Lewzer will be arming the Russians.

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-17 03:45 PM | Reply

Should have happened in 2022.

#4 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-11-17 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The demented orange pedo will probably court martial the military members who transferred the weapons to Ukraine.

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-11-17 03:50 PM | Reply

Related...

Ukraine faces 'one of largest' Russian aerial assaults
www.dw.com

... Russia pounded Ukrainian energy infrastructure and other civilian targets with around 120 missiles and 90 drones on Sunday morning, forcing Kyiv to implement precautionary power cuts and even prompting neighboring Poland to scramble its air force.

In what he called "one of the largest air attacks" of the war so far, Ukraine's Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha said Russia had launched "drones and missiles against peaceful cities, sleeping civilians [and] critical infrastructure" across the country, including in some usually quieter western regions.

The Ukrainian Air Force reported dozens of cruise and ballistic missiles, some launched from strategic bombers, fired at targets nationwide, following on from waves of combat drones. ...

In total, the overnight Russian strikes left at least eight people dead and wounded around 20 more, according to Ukrainian officials.

Among the initial casualties were two women killed in the southern city of Mykolaiv, where six other people, including two children, were also injured, according to local military governor Vitalii Kim.

Kim said several homes, a tower block, a shopping mall and a row of parked cars had also been damaged, as well as unspecified infrastructure.

The death toll also included two people who were killed in the Odesa region, where the attack damaged energy infrastructure and disrupted power and water supplies, according to governor Vitalii Kim Oleh Kiper.

Two residential buildings reportedly caught fire in the capital, Kyiv, while explosions were also reported in Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro, and Zelenskyy's hometown Kryvyi Rih, in central Ukraine. Social media footage showed Ukrainian air defenses in action in the Black Sea port of Odesa. ...



#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-17 04:34 PM | Reply

Biden Allows Ukraine to use US Arms to Strike Inside Russia

Good. Just as Russia is attacking Ukraine's electricity grid, Ukraine can now attack Russia's. Turn about is fair play.

#7 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-11-17 04:39 PM | Reply

Biden should take a page from the bush 1 playbook and invade Iran right before leaving office

#8 | Posted by Truthhurts at 2024-11-17 05:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Put made quite the mistake when he helped Trump win. President Biden no longer feels like America has anything left to lose.

#9 | Posted by Tor at 2024-11-17 06:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#7 ... Just as Russia is attacking Ukraine's electricity grid ...

Arsenal of Autocracy: North Korea and Iran are arming Russia in Ukraine (January 2024)
www.atlanticcouncil.org

... Over the New Year holiday period, Russia launched some of the biggest bombardments of Ukrainian cities since the start of the full-scale invasion almost two years ago. These attacks had been widely expected, with Russia believed to have been actively stockpiling missiles and drones during the final few months of 2023. Nevertheless, the origin of some of the missiles used in Russia's latest air attacks has sparked considerable disquiet in Ukraine and throughout Western capitals.

In the days following these latest bombardments, the White House announced that Russia had used North Korean ballistic missiles to strike Ukraine. These claims were subsequently corroborated by senior Ukrainian officials. In a joint statement issued on January 9, the US, UK, EU, Australia, Germany, Canada and nearly 40 other partner nations condemned North Korea's export of ballistic missiles to Russia.

The delivery of North Korean ballistic missiles marks the latest escalation in the country's support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Reports of North Korean arms shipments to Russia first emerged in late 2022. In October 2023, US National Security Council Spokesperson John Kirby announced that Pyongyang had delivered more than 1,000 containers of equipment and munitions to Russia. Speaking in late 2023, South Korean officials claimed North Korean military production facilities were operating "at maximum capacity" in order to meet Russian demand for armaments.

It is not clear what Russia is offering in exchange for the weapons it is receiving from North Korea, but there are fears that Moscow is providing the heavily sanctioned nation with access to new military technologies. During a September 2023 visit to Russia, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un visited a number of military sites showcasing advanced weapons systems.

North Korea is not the only authoritarian regime currently providing Putin with weapons for the invasion of Ukraine. Iran has supplied Russia with large quantities of attack drones as well as artillery shells, while Russia is using Iranian drone technologies to establish large-scale domestic production of attack drones for use in Ukraine. Recent reports indicate this cooperation is now intensifying. Russia is poised to receive Iranian ballistic missiles, with Iran also delivering upgraded drones. ...



#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-17 06:09 PM | Reply

This should have happened in 2014 when Barrack Obama watched Russians invade Crimea in violation of the Buddaphest Treaty signed in 1992, No nation should be allowed to invade another nation with immunity from retaliation. That should bw applied universally for all nation inckuding super-powers.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-17 09:01 PM | Reply

@#11 ... This should have happened in 2014 when Barrack Obama watched Russians invade Crimea in violation of the Buddaphest Treaty signed in 1992 ...

I agree. But I do note, it is the Budapest Memorandum
en.wikipedia.org

... According to the three memoranda,[6] Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively removing all Soviet nuclear weapons from their soil, and that they agreed to the following:

Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).[7]
...

[emphasis mine]

But your comment also raises another question ...

There seems to be a push of late to get Russia and Ukraine to agree to a peace treaty to "end the war."

The war, btw, is actually Pres Putin's unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country.

But I'll go with "the war" for the nonce.

OK, so let's say such a peace treaty is signed by Russia and Ukraine.

What has history told us about how well Russia sticks to the peace treaties it sign?

Your comment seems to indicate a certain, I'll say, question.


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-17 09:18 PM | Reply

This is the feel good story of the week. Come on Ukraine, lay waste to those North Korean cannon fodder and to terminate as many Russians and Chinese in the process at the same time. Slava Ukraine!

#13 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-11-17 09:29 PM | Reply

Biden should have been removed from office long ago. Democrats said he was incompetent. Democrats always want war. Get Biden out of office now.

#14 | Posted by Robson at 2024-11-18 07:30 AM | Reply

Drop bombs on the Kremlin and Pooty Poot while you can.

#15 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-11-18 07:47 AM | Reply

Putin wants to do to Kiev what he did to Trump's turd cutter in Helsinki.

#16 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2024-11-18 08:39 AM | Reply


It's about ------ time!

#1 | POSTED BY HORSTNGRABEN

Its not over, by any means, Russia is now updating its Nuclear policy.

This could be very very bad for the globe, its odd to me Lumpers worry about Global Climate Change.

But don't mind a couple of nukes going off.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-18 12:29 PM | Reply

Its not over, by any means, Russia is now updating its Nuclear policy.
This could be very very bad for the globe, ... a couple of nukes going off.
#17 | POSTED BY 1LUMPYDUMP

All this fearmongering isn't healthy. Go change your underwear.

Besides, Trump will fix everything, right?

You deplorable Trumping MAGAts been telling us how Putin fears him.

Let's see how fast Trump bends the knee to Putin.

Will it be immediately or instantly?

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-18 12:43 PM | Reply

Fake ----- bitch remains a ------- idiot.

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-11-18 03:53 PM | Reply

War is always Bad. This is a stupid thing. Trump will reverse it.

Biden wants to leave Trump with a Shooting, and possibly Nuclear War?

That's bad sportsmanship. Biden is risking world war out of petty spite.

Bad President...No Doubt about It.

Trump will be Worse.

Somehow.

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-11-18 04:13 PM | Reply

Democrats always want war.
#14 | Posted by Robson

Who lied us into iraq?

Who was called anti american for opposing that war?

Who got us out of our longest war?

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-18 04:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who lied us into iraq?

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-18 04:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

People that also endorsed Harris for President.

Strange times.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-18 07:20 PM | Reply

Who do the vast majority of veterans blame for the -------- withdrawal from Afghanistan?

Not Trump.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-18 07:21 PM | Reply

You mean the ones that survived Bush misguided war because Obama, yes Trump and finally Biden got them out? since when do military minions get to "blame".... It's one thing to "go in" another to "get out"... ain't easy.... ask a veteran....

#24 | Posted by South_American at 2024-11-18 11:16 PM | Reply

#9 oh man I had a dynamite happy hour this evening and don't want to lose it.... :)

#25 | Posted by South_American at 2024-11-18 11:23 PM | Reply

Who do the vast majority of veterans blame for the -------- withdrawal from Afghanistan?

Not Trump.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg

How many of them wish we were back in afghanistan?

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-18 11:30 PM | Reply

People that also endorsed Harris for President.

Strange times.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Yeah it is, when your party has been taken over by people who are WORSE than the people who lied us into iraq.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-18 11:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"How many of them wish we were back in afghanistan?

#26 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

After 20+ years getting out was the right call. That is not the issue. HOW the withdrawal was handled was and remains the issue. It was am absolute, unmitigated disaster. Truly horrible.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-18 11:40 PM | Reply

It had Obama's fingerprints all over it.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-18 11:47 PM | Reply

It had Obama's fingerprints all over it.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger

When something is trump's fault, just blame obama.

www.militarytimes.com

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-18 11:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speaksoftly,

I don't know if Obama had any role in the withdrawal. I brought it up simply because he inherently despises the country he was elected to lead. Biden was a dementia-addled puppet. Screwing over America is very on-point for Obama.

So, I theorized he had some kind of role in it and jerked off when it went as horribly as it did.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-19 12:00 AM | Reply

I brought it up simply because...

...you are a troll.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-19 12:02 AM | Reply

Whoever posted that one went all in on it.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-19 12:06 AM | Reply

Bellringer thought I would see into your accusation.

This was kind of interesting.

President Barack Obama had promised to end the war, so on Dec. 28, 2014, U.S. and NATO officials held a ceremony at their headquarters in Kabul to mark the occasion. A multinational color guard paraded around. Music played. A four-star general gave a speech and solemnly furled the green flag of the U.S.-led international force that had flown since the beginning of the conflict.
In a statement, Obama called the day "a milestone for our country" and said the United States was safer and more secure after 13 years of war.
"Thanks to the extraordinary sacrifices of our men and women in uniform, our combat mission in Afghanistan is ending and the longest war in American history is coming to a responsible conclusion," he declared.
www.washingtonpost.com

#34 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-19 12:34 AM | Reply


When something is trump's fault, just blame obama.
www.militarytimes.com

#30 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I am not sure what this means in your argument. Seems like you guys are arguing a situation where under Obama the reduction began, continued under Trump and ended under Biden.

The final weeks of the departure is the disaster, and I don't believe anyone can blame Obama or Trump for that disaster.

#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-19 12:36 AM | Reply

How many of them wish we were back in afghanistan?

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-18 11:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most would go back to Iraq or Afghanistan in a heartbeat. They had the time of their lives. I also know a disproportionate amount of infantry.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-19 07:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

But the withdrawal was a ---- show. Primary sources from the Army watching the Taliban checkpoint 300 yards away executing men women and children. The ROE is intervene if American or collaborated with Americans, except they just hopped off a C5 to pull perimeter watch and have zero intelligence, nothing from btn s3, nothing from above or below, on what Afganis to intervene for.

Biden ---- show. Poorly planned, had the optics of Vietnam era helos being shoved over the side of a carrier, but way worse.

We get to own that one as a party and can't Trump our way out of that.

#37 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-19 07:45 AM | Reply

Once we had Shrek (a scary af US special ops leader) airstrike his way to where we thought Osama was but he had fled, it was time to go home and do more detective work.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-19 07:47 AM | Reply

and to top it off, they will happily point out to you that Trump ran against the Republican establishment and won. He beat the people that lied us into Iraq and marginalized them. Seeing Darth Cheney endorse Harris heavily reinforced that opinion. Dems are the war party.

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-19 07:57 AM | Reply

I don't know if Obama had any role in the withdrawal. I brought it up simply because he inherently despises the country he was elected to lead.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger

Did Obama attempt a coup when it was time to leave office because he would rather burn down democracy than surrender power?

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-19 12:59 PM | Reply

I don't believe anyone can blame Obama or Trump for that disaster.

#35 | Posted by oneironaut

Because you aren't informed and you choose to stay that way.

www.washingtonpost.com

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-19 01:02 PM | Reply

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